Latest ROM Update 2.07.401.1 WM 6.5 Sense 2.5 (Suggested Reg tweaks added on page 5) - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

It would seem that there are an awful lot of new threads on the subject, perhaps we could concentrate all the issues that we have with it (no matter which flavour) in one thread, can be this one or another, I don't mind but I think it should be done, would tidy things up a little.
Anyway, reason for starting this one is to try and collate all of the issues that we have with it, you never know, people in the right places may listen, but then again, pigs might fly, but it's the thought that counts! lol.
Generally
I like the update, I like using Sense 2.5 with the new twitter tab and the new programme buttons on the home screen, Facebook seems a little more integrated and I like that fact you have to dig a little deeper to get to WM.
However;
Home Screen
Weather animation is slow and laggy if;
a) You have more than 3 programmes added or;
b) More that one contact added
However, if the clock is minimised and all programme tabs visible, the animations are as good ad the demo and weather tab. Very annoying!!!!
Contacts
I like the new People shortcuts, but the fluidity of scrolling is rubbish, it's very jerky.
Open a contact and then tap edit, way too slow to open up and edit, perhaps 3-4 seconds. In real time, that's not a lot, but it is when using a phone. Then tap save, WTF! this takes even longer and it would appear to be even worse when you link your profile to FB, it's to the point of being painful.
This is just as bad if you tap on Menu and the edit.
Update and Events
Well, installed the 'hotfix' for FB Albums; guess what? It doesn't work, I still cannot seen any pictures in any album. I even wiped the ROM and started completeyl fresh to see if that was causing issues, but nope, still doesn't work.
I'm not overly happy that adding people to my favourites adds notes to each person and addes them to the HTC Favourites Group. We never needed that with Sense 2.1 so why now?
I thought that perhaps the issues I have with the Contacts is because I have over 700. Nope, doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference how many or few you have, still get the same issues.
Messaging
I like the HTC SMS Client, it's starting to grow on me..... just. However,
When replying to a sms in landscape with the keyboard exposed, tap the menu softkey and then try and use the keyboard up and down arrows. Gues what, you cant! Very annoying.
I also cannot see how I can add the little pop up that tells me the sms has been sent. Now I know that most people on here don't like that, but I did, maybe I'm wired.
I also don't like it that the delivery report forms part of the treaded message as opposed to being separate - maybe that's mee being too fussy.
Calendar
I like the calendar it looks cleaner although the one big annoyance is the agenda view. No matter if I tap on the event from the home page or from the sliding menu at the bottom, the agenda view taks a good 5 seconds to load - outrageous! lol.
Twitter tab
Again, I like the twitter tab but, on a few occaisions, without any prior warning, all tweets disappear!?! hhmmmmm
Settings tab
For me, the Sound & Display menu is a little slow at showing but it's not too bad.
Other Issues
SOD - (Standby of Death) Only ever experienced this once and have no idea what caused it.
Radio 4.49.25.91 - Sometimes, when I travel through a bad signal area, the radio with not 'refresh' it's self and run through the signal search loop, it just sits there and sits there with the exclamation mark until I manually turn the radio off and back on again. Never had this issue with 4.49.25.17.
Finally, to ensure that the issues highlighted above were not due to remnants of previous ROM files hanging behind ofter flashing, I ran Task29 on the device to ensure that the ROM storage was clear and cleaned of any rubbish and freshly installed 2.07.401.1.
After all that, I genuinely do like this ROM and I guess these are just annoying niggles but you can only take so much. Am I going to revert back to WM 6.5 with Sense 2.1, only time will tell.

Agree with pretty much all you have said. Specifically
1 important to concentrate all all issues with this ROM in one thread
2 these are some key other threads on XDA that I think are relevant with issues from this ROM, at least can be referred to from here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648510
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631563
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634536
3 SOD is the biggest issue for me. Happens frequently during the day. HTC want me to send the device for repair, but I do not believe this to be a hardware issue. Phone has functioned perfectly since new in May 2009, SOD has only arisen on moving to this March 18th ROM
4 HTC posting data in our Contacts : terrible. This was certainly the cause of lock ups I had when first installing the ROM as that data got more and more corrupted.
5 I cannot get Facebook auto update working. I have about 1,000 contacts, about 50 of them synced to Facebook
6 Twitter does not fully update for me
7 Overall, when it works, I think Sense 2.5 is very good. I haven't had any issues with the SMS client which I think is a very good improvement over 2.1
8 as it stands, phone is unusable. I cannot rely on it for people to contact me as it is often SOD. A phone that people can't ring? That's not progress
9 Facebook albums - doesn't work, have never been able to get this working. Link to patch on HTC Europe website is broken, do HTC know?
Come on HTC, accept that you have an issue, agree to investigate and fix it.
Am in the UK, unlocked, unbranded phone, I use O2.

Calendar
The slowness in the Agenda seems to be negatively influenced by having all-day, and/or recurring appointments.
One thing I noticed is that when editing a single occurrence of an recurring appointment, you can change the time, but not the date of the occurrence (which is possible in the default client).
Messaging
Although I like the messaging app, it takes an awful long time to load one thread. Why didn't they implement this the same way as the default client (limited number of messages shown, with a link to "older messages")?
Other issues
Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.

ridolfo said:
Calendar
The slowness in the Agenda seems to be negatively influenced by having all-day, and/or recurring appointments.
One thing I noticed is that when editing a single occurrence of an recurring appointment, you can change the time, but not the date of the occurrence (which is possible in the default client).
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I concur with that. That's going to be a bit of a problem for me as I have several re-ocurring appointments.

I have issues with the new rom also.
I have the same issues you have. In addition my speakerphone function doesn't work most of the time. I have to turn it of and back on again and sometimes even redial.
Regards,
Rob

reflecs said:
I have issues with the new rom also.
I have the same issues you have. In addition my speakerphone function doesn't work most of the time. I have to turn it of and back on again and sometimes even redial.
Regards,
Rob
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I've not tried the speakerphone issue yet, will have a go later.

another issue, file activity like installing apps or copying files is unacceptable slow.

reflecs said:
another issue, file activity like installing apps or copying files is unacceptable slow.
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Personally, I haven't noticed any difference with previous ROM's in this respect.

Hmm. Seems after a soft reset file activity is better now.

Wow, editing favorite contacts is really slow. I added a few lines to the notes of one of my favorites, and it took literally 5 minutes to get back to the Home screen.

For me it helped reflashing the ROM; flash the Sense 2.5 ROM and then immediately flash it again. Made it slightly more responsive. Other than that, I have the same issues as you do.
Contacted HTC about it and they told me UPS should pick up the phone since it's a hardware problem... Yeah right.
For me the most annoying part is the speaker phone issue, annoying when ppl can't hear me.

I've contacted support through HTC's website. I've putted in 4 problems and got an awnser on 2.
The speaker problem is a hardware failure according to the support desk. Such a nonsens!
This ROM is broken and they should fix it!

Other issues
Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.[/QUOTE]
Hy.what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH

dan_tmx said:
Other issues
Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.
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Hy.what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH[/QUOTE]
That's not really an issue; that's how the new Sense is designed. If you want it back, look for C00kie's Home Tab Mod.

what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH
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You don't need Call History, just tap "Phone" and it's there.
The speaker problem is a hardware failure according to the support desk. Such a nonsens!
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They told me that as well, wanted me to ship them the phone by UPS since it was a hardware problem... even though I told them lots of others have that problem with 2.5 and that it was JUST FINE before upgrading.

Found errors and one worth to add, too.
Error - Calendar:
I've tried to insert a birthday reminder in July 20th, and set it up for "ever July 20th" but i wont listet in July, the reason is, its added in april, i think its the current Month, seems to like an variableerror or an programmingerror. Defently worth to fix.
Worth to add - General / Shortlinks:
A shortlink to settingstab/menu, its annoying to have 5 tabs to access the real options + the loading time of the differnt tabs/menus.
Optional - Found something helpful - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285366
Very worth to add - Onlinerules (maybe there is a programm that provides this):
It's annoying when i at home that, in the second i tab on the power button my w-lan and bei umtsmodule begins to initiate simultanly an internet connection, there could be some rule, w-lan before umts or something, the device got A-GPS, maybe set a home zone where the UMTS lets the w-lan the higher priority and get into the internet. But i've always use the shortcut FN+Commandcenter(rightkey) to deactivate the UMTS, because i doenst recognize that the wlan is 5 times faster.
Maybe we could all errors to the first post, for a better overview.

Since the new update, the task-manager-icon(little thing with the arrow), showing running programs and memory usage has disappeared anyone know how to get it back? I've already tried installing the HTC Task Manager 2, but it didn't help

simnl said:
Since the new update, the task-manager-icon(little thing with the arrow), showing running programs and memory usage has disappeared anyone know how to get it back? I've already tried installing the HTC Task Manager 2, but it didn't help
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Find Duttys Task Manager for Leo, install and it should work, but, it cuoldnt close all apps(opera, AS,etc) so you have to check it with builtin task manager from time to time to really close them.

Edward Lowy said:
Agree with pretty much all you have said. Specifically
1 important to concentrate all all issues with this ROM in one thread
2 these are some key other threads on XDA that I think are relevant with issues from this ROM, at least can be referred to from here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648510
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631563
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634536
3 SOD is the biggest issue for me. Happens frequently during the day. HTC want me to send the device for repair, but I do not believe this to be a hardware issue. Phone has functioned perfectly since new in May 2009, SOD has only arisen on moving to this March 18th ROM
4 HTC posting data in our Contacts : terrible. This was certainly the cause of lock ups I had when first installing the ROM as that data got more and more corrupted.
5 I cannot get Facebook auto update working. I have about 1,000 contacts, about 50 of them synced to Facebook
6 Twitter does not fully update for me
7 Overall, when it works, I think Sense 2.5 is very good. I haven't had any issues with the SMS client which I think is a very good improvement over 2.1
8 as it stands, phone is unusable. I cannot rely on it for people to contact me as it is often SOD. A phone that people can't ring? That's not progress
9 Facebook albums - doesn't work, have never been able to get this working. Link to patch on HTC Europe website is broken, do HTC know?
Come on HTC, accept that you have an issue, agree to investigate and fix it.
Am in the UK, unlocked, unbranded phone, I use O2.
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Completely agree with all in the above post, especially the SOD which is completely random on my device which is only 3 weeks old (bought from clove and shipped with the latest official HTC ROM) I have been naggin my boss to buy me a tp2 for months as my tytn2 was becoming unreliable and now i find the tp2 even worse, even though im a die hard HTC fan i fear i might have to consider sending the device back and getting a blackberry as this is totally unacceptable for a business tool. Have also reported the issue to HTC to which i got a reply of "try a hard reset" which isnt very good when the device was only 4days old at the time.
Tony

::RiL:: said:
Completely agree with all in the above post, especially the SOD which is completely random on my device which is only 3 weeks old (bought from clove and shipped with the latest official HTC ROM) I have been naggin my boss to buy me a tp2 for months as my tytn2 was becoming unreliable and now i find the tp2 even worse, even though im a die hard HTC fan i fear i might have to consider sending the device back and getting a blackberry as this is totally unacceptable for a business tool. Have also reported the issue to HTC to which i got a reply of "try a hard reset" which isnt very good when the device was only 4days old at the time.
Tony
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That your new phone is SOD'ing is very bad news indeed. Mine is heading back to HTC tomorrow, quite why I don't know as categorically the issues are with the March 18th ROM. Have simply lost the will to live in corresponding with HTC's "technical support".
Technical support, my arse.
Right - let us try and be constructive.
My TP2 which works flawlessly with ROM's up to March 18th
It has only ever had HTC stock ROM's
it was bought unlocked and unbranded from Clove in May 2009. I am on O2
It has a 6 Gb Micro SD card
I have never used HardSPL
I use Commontime mSuite software to link the TP2 with our Lotus Notes installation, syncing Contacts, email and calendar
even without installing any software whatsoever on top of March 18th ROM I have had SOD
Sense 2.5 places unauthorised (by me!) data in the Comments field of your contacts with details of Facebook & favourites Sense entries. This data gets appended to the Comments field in Lotus Notes and renders that field corrupted.
In the 10 months between May 2009 and March 2010, I never had a single SOD incident. Since the March 18th ROM, I would get at least 6 SOD's per day. I do not feel that I am being Sherlock Holmes by suggesting that the SOD issue is linked exclusively to the March 18th ROM.
In sheer frustration and because I actually need to use the TP2, I recently reverted to the previous ROM. No SOD's.
Anyway, all you SOD'ers out there (or is it just me), what is the precise make up of your TP2, can we find anything in common?

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Phone keeps hanging with 'Messaging' menu appearing

Hi All,
I'm a long time lurker and first poster - just want to say initially thanks for all the helpful hints, tips, software etc I've picked up from the forum.
However, I've recently got a problem that I can't seem to crack and wondered if anyone has any ideas. I've tried searching but to no avail.
Randomly (and often when browsing) 'Messaging' appears on the top bar (with 'Delete' and 'Menu' on the softkey bar (as if it had suddenly shifted to an email page) but the main portion of the screen remains frozen with whatever was going on before (i.e. the webpage, today screen or whatever). It'll happen a few times then Opera crashes, but it also happens with the phone on standby (not sure if Opera was still running).
If I hit 'Menu' then 'Reply' it comes up with the latest message from my Hotmail account. I'm running Windows Live as a push account I think it may be that triggering it when it starts to sync. Perhaps some sort of problem with Opera and Windows Live when they're both running?
I've not got any serious mods installed and didn't have this problem until recently. I've got the latest versions of Opera, Windows Live and have recently reflashed the ROM in case that was the problem but no such luck.
I'm going to disable the push email and see if it still happens then try uninstalling things to see if that stops it but any suggestions gratefully received if you've had a similar problem and have managed to solve it.
Brief spec:
WinMo 6.5 (latest official HTC ROM)
UK O2 network
Opera Mobile 10 Beta 2u (Ninja Duck enhanced, but it happened with the Opera official version too)
1% Battery mod
FInixNOverBatteryIconsOnly battery icon mod
sdkcerts for above
SmartPhone tracker (disabled - going to uninstall to check)
ive got the same issue with my stock att branded tilt2
hope someone knows whats causing this...
I'm now thinking it may be a memory shortage issue - last time it did it I checked on task manager and it said memory usage was 95%
It's only about 59% when I reboot so I can only assume that Opera or something is using an inordinate amount of system memory. No idea if that's it, though
HTC Imagio Too
Same problem with my HTC Imagio. Messaging just pops up randomly and for no reason. I believe, too, that it has something to do with the Hotmail push email, but it has not always done this, which is the real mystery.
I'm having the same thing happen. But when I hit the reply button, it just brings up a blank email with my address in the From line. I haven't noticed any increase in RAM though. To me, it's nothing more than a nuisance.
Same here, tmobile stock rom wm6.5.
But when I touch the center area the message tool bar goes away and I resumewhatever I was doing just fine, so I normally ignore this.
May have something to do with checking email. I don't have push (push for gmail still not good IMHO), but the phone is checking my two gmail accounts every 15 minutes.
I have this problem too, and can't stand it. Have push Hotmail via Windows Live, Sync "as items arrive" from 7am to 11pm.
I've also downloaded the HTC hotfix for SMS freezing (in case this is related somehow).
I searched for it and can't believe this hasn't been solved yet.
Same here.
I have had this problem since day one, about 5 months ago on my Tilt2. Grrr.
Same issue here.
I also have this issue.
I have observed this occur with 65% memory usage.
I can also confirm this occurs with POP3 email. I have 2 POP3 accounts and no push accounts.
It does not seem connection related, happens when connected via EDGE, 3G, & Wifi.
I am running an NRG wm6.5 ROM.
same problem here. was hoping to find a fix on here.
Same here, Verizon TP2 when I hit the messaging image, it just goes away. Using stock WinMo 6.5 rom with about 8 apps from OpenMkt. Device is pretty stable and other than above and very slow opening mail sometimes.
everyone has thais problem and no replies :-( I also have this problem
my phone freezes a lot when opening a new txt. I downloaded the hotfix sms fix from htc and when i go to install it it just says the hotfix is not compatible
I have a problem with mine regarding opening TXT messages in windows messaging app, not in the HTC txt app. When I close it, it just freezes then I have to hit the side button to reset....Anyone have a fix for this? Im running TMOUS windows 6.5
Same problem here. Although mine happens on both emails (pop and windows live) and text. Whenever I close any of them the messaging will pop up 5-30 seconds later.
Hopefully if we get enough people with the same problem someone will eventually find a solution!
EDIT: I'm running stock Verizon ROM with a couple minor mods (nothing that screws with messaging, other than the disable SMS sent popup)
Me 2
I too have the same issue with stock tmo 6.5 rom. I never noticed it with energy roms. I wonder if maybe he knows what could be causing this issue? Just an idea.

About to send a list of problems to HTC support

These are the issues I am personally experiencing right now (included some links to threads to show I am not alone):
HTC Music widget + appl not showing artworks or showing different from those embedded directly in mp3 file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683008&highlight=music
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669057&highlight=music
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682437&highlight=art
Facebook pictures not updating in contatcs list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699177&highlight=facebook
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683918&highlight=facebook
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693794&highlight=facebook
LED Notification shutting down after 5 mins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678971&highlight=LED
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675220&highlight=notification
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=662837&highlight=notification
HTC Sync not working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689996&highlight=HTC+Sync
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675613&highlight=HTC+Sync
Partial wake lock, unable to sleep:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6758959#post6758959
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666404
EDIT:
HTC mail widget does not refresh the email list when a new email is received. The email application itself needs to be opened in order to refresh the email list.
I know some of them are either well known or maybe not 100% HTC's fault but I just want to let them know (or remind them) that these problems still exist.
Otherwise they won't fix anything without proper feedback.
I might have forgotten some of the issues so if someone has a problem and my Desire does suffer from it I can add it to my list.
When listening to the FM radio and a text message comes in, the radio is muted to allow the alert sound to play but the radio then remains muted (even if closed down and restarted). Only a soft reset fixes problem.
News widget not updating automatically.
I will try to reproduce the FM radio problem. If it really behaves this way I will add it to the list.
The HTC News widget will be added as well - I can confirm this already.
Thanks for the input so far. I am still compiling the list so feel free to add some more issues.
Is there much point considering we will be getting FroYo in 13 days?
cardiak said:
Is there much point considering we will be getting FroYo in 13 days?
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Will we? So far I haven't heard anything official about Froyo on Desire. It can take several months until HTC decides to release it.
Until then I would like to have these issues resolved as they are quite annoying and in some cases just plain stupid.
I know some of them may be irrelevant or not so important for others but for a device of such caliber I expected better and more reliable functionality.
And I would like to let HTC know about it...
Have you read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666332
You are posting a duplicated post, and the best you can do is add your problems to the other post since is sticky and have been here for a very long time now!
But if you want to send these "bugs" to HTC i'm with you - be sure to also add the ones that are on the post i referred since there are many more...
What about the pink screen ?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656128
I would like to know why HTC made so phones with sense can't connect to some bluetooth-devices f.ex. wii motes.
Whay don't HTC Come take a look at the XDA Forums thread.... If they took a look at all the problems that people are posting here, then there would be plenty of updates to come
My left nut says no Froyo on the 23rd
My left nut says no Froyo on the 23rd
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My right nut says your left nut is sadly probably right...
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My Desire doesn't vibrate when receiving a text but vibrates for everything else.
Hi, there is/are xda threads about that already, which personally I am experiencing too; shut down takes 10-15 mins or even longer. Don't know if any app/s cause this matter or a bug in Desire, but as said this is a common concern.
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* some contacts which are connected with one or more facebook accounts and/or gmail contacts change their names randomly (e.g. i set a contact to use FB name and next time i get there it's using email address)
* when I receive an sms from a web gateway, e.g. from vodafone, in the messaging app the phone puts in a thread with a facebook account which has no phone number (a blank one, created by the phone itself and that I can't seem to be able to delete)
* alarm doesn't ring if phone is off
hey man why don't you tell them to make an option to save the images taken by camera as dates instead of image# (number)
i copy my images into folders and everytime i take new images i need to rename them before moving them along or i will have filename conflict because my camera everytime starts from the same numbers...if the name was according to date they would be sorted as i want them and no problem moving them around too.
low res contact pics... a fix would be great

[BUG]Android firing a message to the wrong person!

Have you read this terrible notice from engadget.com?
Android still has horrible text messaging bugs that'll get you fired, busted, or otherwise embarrassed
By Chris Ziegler posted Dec 31st 2010 1:12PM
Pardon us if the headline is a little sensational, but this is one that we've personally experienced -- and it's not pretty. For at least the last couple versions, Android has been plagued with a couple extremely serious bugs in its text messaging subsystem that can ultimately end up causing you to text the wrong contact -- even contacts that you've never texted before. There appear to be a few failure modes; the one we definitely experience on the Gingerbread-powered Nexus S involves being routed to the wrong thread when you tap it either in the Notifications list or the master thread list in the Messaging application, so if you don't notice, you'll end up firing a message to the wrong person.
More seriously, though, there's also an open issue in Android's bug tracking system -- inexplicably marked "medium" priority -- where sent text messages can appear to be in the correct thread and still end up being sent to another contact altogether. In other words, unless you pull up the Message Details screen after the fact, you might not even know the grievous act you've committed until your boss, significant other, or best friend -- make that former best friend -- texts you back. There seem to have been some attempts on Google's part over the year to fix it; we can't confirm that it still happens in 2.3, but for what it's worth, the issue hasn't been marked resolved in Google Code... and it was opened some six months ago.
This is akin to an alarm clock that occasionally won't go off (we've been there) or a car that randomly won't let you turn the steering wheel -- you simply cannot have a phone that you can't trust to communicate with the right people. It's a deal-breaker. We're pretty shocked that these issues weren't tied up and blasted to all affected phones as an over-the-air patch months ago, but whatever the reason, we'd like to see Google, manufacturers, and carriers drop every other Android update they're working on and make sure this is completely resolved immediately.
Want to see this fixed as much as we do? Scroll to the bottom of the Google Code page and hit "Vote for this issue and get email change notifications."
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Never had any issue with this...
Maybe, it happens only on the default Google sms app not the HTC one.
I've often sent 2 - 3000 text messeges a month with two diffrent devices over the last 18 months and never had this problem. on the otherhand engadget are known for chatting sensationalist rubbish, only to have to apologise later in an editorial.
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Maybe, it happens only on the default Google sms app not the HTC one.
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I have experienced this with the HTC messaging one. When I individually texted "Happy new year!!" to everyone, the bug happened twice and it actually sent to someone else.
AndroHero said:
I've often sent 2 - 3000 text messeges a month with two diffrent devices over the last 18 months and never had this problem. on the otherhand engadget are known for chatting sensationalist rubbish, only to have to apologise later in an editorial.
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is not sensationalism, is an actual big ugly bug.
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is not sensationalism, is an actual big ugly bug.
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If it's a bug, then why have I not encountered it since owning this phone for 7 months?
It could be a stock Android problem as already mentioned (HTC Sense ROMs have a different messaging application).
I found a post in the discuss thread where a guy explain how to reproduce this *bug*:
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If anyone is interested, evidently "Darth Mo" has been able to replicate it - found in ACentral Forums - entire post follows;
"It's not user error, or at least it's a combination of user technique and a possible design. It has to do with how the stock messaging app interacts with the Android system notification.
I recreated it this way. Open a text, but only from the notification bar. You will be taken directly to the conversation from that contact. Now, just hit the home button to get back to the home screen. Repeat this four times to let the open conversations build up. We'll call the earliest contact 1, the next 2, etc. for this example. Let's say you converse with these contacts over some time so that messages occur in this chronological order (opened from the notification menu if possible) : 1, you, 2, you, 3, you, 4, you, 1, 3, you, 3.
Now, you've read the message from contact 3, but quickly hit the back button because you need to send a message to contact 4. So you're back at the conversation list and select conversation 4. You compose and send your message and off you go. But, what can actually happen is that your message went to contact 1 because there is a bug that when you use the back button, it will take you to the conversation screen and when you select one, it will take you to the conversation with the last "unreplied" message received before the last conversation you didn't reply to, regardless of the one you actually select from the list. It's easy to miss that it took you to the wrong conversation as the on screen info can take a beat to update and it looks like you've select the right conversation. The kicker is the conversation list does highlight the one you meant to select, but will take you to that other conversation. It's as if it's saying, "Hey, I know you want to go to that one, but you opened this message and jumped out of it without replying. Maybe you didn't see it."
It's pretty easy for people to not have seen this for a few reasons:
1. You open messages directly from the messaging app
2. You close out every conversation using the back button and don't let them build up on top of each other
3. Messages can come in such a sequence that the conditions are never correct
4. It has actually happened, only the last "unreplied" message was from the conversation you actually intended to enter
I was able to create reliably using my Google voice number to send myself text and watched it bounce around conversations seemingly randomly. It was only when I looked at the times of each message with no replies that I saw what it was doing actually had order to it.
About 30 minutes of experimentation to figure it out, but I had to know how this was happening as I could see it leading to an egregious error later. Now to explain it to HTC..."
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i've never had this either - i use handcent
Since a few minutes ago, the issue is considered critical instead of of medium:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9392#c794
Are kiddin me?
I dont send any sms for a while , this is a very big issue !
It never happened to me but , this is a realy really big bug!
Mekrel said:
If it's a bug, then why have I not encountered it since owning this phone for 7 months?
It could be a stock Android problem as already mentioned (HTC Sense ROMs have a different messaging application).
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why havent you encountered it? i have no frikking clue and i dont care.
fortunately now it is a critical bug.
btw, i just care about android stock problems, im not using that sense stuff.
I quite often get messages which are meant for other people from someone who has a samsung galaxy (seems that's it's a copy of the message, rather than it being sent to the wrong sender).
I don't text as much, so less prone to the error.
happened to me on stock Android. Never on HTC Sense or mod
I have actually had this bug... but it reported the message had gone to the wrong person, but the correct person replied so I assumed it was reporting it wrong.... only happened twice.
on stock rom unrooted desire
I'm using a stock ROM & native SMS. I get this bug quite a few times.
I'm working in a very loud environment, so I send & receive lots & lots of text messages.
I notice that when i have lots of threaded messages, the SMS starts to slow down & sooner or later the bug will cause me send a text to the wrong recipient.
I'm quite careful of what I'm sending now.
HTC & they told me to reset the phone.
It hasn't been fun for me since I have to reset the phone once a month because my threaded sms buildup very quickly...
I'll update to 2.29.405.5 to see if this fixes anything.
Guys,
Is the 'wrong' person who receives the message someone in your phonebook or a total stranger. If it'd someone you don't know... how does your phone pick that number up? Randomly?
I had my Desire since April, and never had this issue. I open texts from notification bar and have sent them frequently.
I've had a G1, Magic, Milestone and now a Desire and I've never experienced this at all.
I don't think this bug is very common... I've never experienced it myself and none of my android friends have either...
Just some evil forces trying to make the Android OS look bad. Not our fault they couldn't resist taking a bite of that apple so screw them!
Overblown sensationalism AKA typical journalism. It's a bug but seldom a problem encountered by users, or XDA-Dev would've been flooded with such problem threads long before such publicity sites noticed. Just me personally having switched between over a dozen ROMs/kernels and their versions since March with over 60 average text out per day since and not one occurrence means it isn't anything but rare. I rely on SMS very much daily.
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[LIST] Post-NoDo Update - Quirks, Problems, Issues [UPDATED LIST]

I didn't see a thread about any issues regarding post-Nodo forced update. I originally posted my issue, but have since resolved mine, but there are some out there with issues. Post them here, I'll try to keep main page updated w/ any options/suggestions for FIXES. Thanks
Samsung Focus
3rd Party Live Tiles loss of function (FIX - Hard-Reset, but consider ramifications (Keep NoDo update, but lose Chevron) - (1 user)
Theme color changers - (1 user)
USB Connection w/ Zune issue, will transfer a certain amount (i.e. ~4gb) and then present with an error - (3 users - 3 have SD cards installed - Error code c000d124d reported by 1, not sure of other 2)
Attempt to access "find my phone" - gives "setting up find my phone" - dialog box with OK option - phone immediately returns back to start screen - (1 user)
Phone has been displaying the roaming triangle and cell data not working as long as the data roaming options is "don't roam" - (1 user)
HTC HD7
Loss of vibration on connect (when making a phone call) - (1 user)
Official Twitter App crash when clicking on link within a twit - (1 user)
Dell Venue Pro
Increase in phone crash, especially in IE - (1 user)
LG
Loss of all synced Zune Pass material and playlists during sync - (1 user)
Unknown Manufacturer
Loss of Calendar and Contact sync capabilities w/ Live account - (1 user)
More than one Manufacturer
Poor screen quality on certain web pages (i.e. Bing pictures, WPCentral webpage) - (4 users)
Lock screen screen wrapping not functioning - (2 users - 1 after pre-NoDo force, 1 after NoDo force)
Some users have experienced loss of 3rd Party Live Tiles and FIXED with uninstall w/ re-installing. Others, including myself, have had no luck w/ uninstall-reinstall fix, but did have success w/ Hard Reset.
Weatherbug works just fine for me. Motweets does as well. AP mobile and flixster work as well. Everything is working for me. Not problems here.
Lucky dog
Nice. I guess it's a personal issue with my device. I've heard of people having this issue just in general, and sometimes a hard reset worked. I'm just afraid of going back to the original pre-pre-nodo settings. Would that be the case? or would a hard reset still have nodo update on it?
everything is working good for me as well....only app giving me problems is one of the theme color changers and just my luck is was my fav one...no problems with marketplace apps...
I just updated my Focus on AT&T. The only problem I've found is with the Zune software. I'm currently re-syncing my entire music collection back to the phone (since I had to remove a lot of content to get the install to go through), and after a random amount of time, the sync will stop. The error is that the USB connection has been removed, but it hasn't been touched.
webbstar842 said:
Nice. I guess it's a personal issue with my device. I've heard of people having this issue just in general, and sometimes a hard reset worked. I'm just afraid of going back to the original pre-pre-nodo settings. Would that be the case? or would a hard reset still have nodo update on it?
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Some of my live tiles have been blank in the past but rebooting fixed some, just opening the program from the tile fixed some, re-pinning fixed one and reinstalling fixed another.
Anybody notice that you make a phone call it no longer vibrates on connect? I really liked that... wonder if there's a way to bring it back...?
I played it safe and uninstalled all 3rd party apps, deleted all provxml files but left it dev unlocked as i did nodo update. Seems to have paid off cos it is still unlocked and sideloading is still possible.
dememted1 said:
I played it safe and uninstalled all 3rd party apps, deleted all provxml files but left it dev unlocked as i did nodo update. Seems to have paid off cos it is still unlocked and sideloading is still possible.
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QUite unnecessary if you would've followed the Prevent Relock instructions. I just left mine registry unlocked and updated to NoDo and my phone and all 3rd party apps are still functional. Even installed an XAP just to be sure.
Please have these types of discussions in WP7 General. These do not contribute or add anything specifically along the lines of hacking WP7, just discussing official update issues.
~~Tito~~
~~Tito~~ said:
Please have these types of discussions in WP7 General. These do not contribute or add anything specifically along the lines of hacking WP7, just discussing official update issues.
~~Tito~~
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10-4 there big dog. So, about this vibrate on connect issue...anybody got any ideas? Maybe it's a setting in the registry?
Posted this on the Omnia form but no replies....Screen resoluti1on on my Omnia is poorer for some web pages (specifically noticed the pictures on Bing are really banded but used to be crystal clear, WPCentral webpage also even more banded than it used to be).
Anyone else noticed this? was hoping there may be a firmware fix, but haven't found anything (was running XEN JK1 prior to the NoDo update).
gc48067 said:
Posted this on the Omnia form but no replies....Screen resoluti1on on my Omnia is poorer for some web pages (specifically noticed the pictures on Bing are really banded but used to be crystal clear, WPCentral webpage also even more banded than it used to be).
Anyone else noticed this? was hoping there may be a firmware fix, but haven't found anything (was running XEN JK1 prior to the NoDo update).
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I thought it was just me but now that you mention it I have noticed this. I have a samsung focus.
eternalemb said:
10-4 there big dog. So, about this vibrate on connect issue...anybody got any ideas? Maybe it's a setting in the registry?
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I still have the vibrate on connect on my T-MoUS HD7
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
TOA Duck said:
I thought it was just me but now that you mention it I have noticed this. I have a samsung focus.
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woah, I just noticed the same thing, samsung focus here
also, when i attempt to access "find my phone" it gives me a "setting up find my phone..." dialog box with an ok button, when I hit the ok it goes back to my start screen
Fixed my issue
I said "F it" and did a hard reset, and, voila, after downloading all my 3rd party apps again, the live tiles are working. Didn't take long to set everything back up, as outlook had all of my contacts set up. It restored to factory settings, but with NoDo update
Yahoo! Issues
I installed NoDo Yesterday and this morning I went to check my e-mails however now I cant sync my e-mails with yahoo! anymore =S anyone else having the same problem? Or hopefully know how to fix it?
Nevermind fixed it myself apparently when it updated to NoDo Yahoo! figured it connecting was suspicious so I changed my password and all works now =) Thanks anyway!
I lost windows live calendar and contact sync. Even inside of Settings>email & accounts>Windows Live, I only have the checkbox to sync email. I tried adding another Windows Live account and that is able to sync both contacts and calendar. I am going to try to remove the original account and re-add it. Will post results shortly.
Edit: So you can't even delete the original Windows Live account you set your phone up with. I don't want to hard reset, but I will if I have to. Any other ideas?
I noticed after the Pre-NoDo Update that on the Lock Screen text is running off the screen instead of wrapping, so now it looks like utter **** in addition to being unreadable because my Calendar is filled with items that may start off the same, but the part that isn't hte same is off the screen. I'm 100% sure this was wrapping before that Pre-Update. Before it looked like this:
Calendar Item Line 1
Calendar Item Line 2
Calendar Location
Time
Now it looks like this:
Calendar Item Line 1 Cale {rest cut off}
Location
Time

[Q] several new issues on AOKP milestone 6

okay, i posted a thread a few weeks ago on some issues with AOKP milestone 6 on htc wildfire.. now, after fine tuning several aspects of the phone i ran into more issues, that i do not know how to solve.....
1. an incredibly annoying lag when receiving call... first comes the ringtone, then, about 4-5 seconds later, the screen turns itself on, and only then the in-call image appears, with an option to answer/decline a call. i managed only to reduce the lag a bit by managing several profiles in SetCPU app, but the problem persists no matter what i do....
2. battery life and occasional twitching when flipping through home screens/ app drawer - this issue got solved pretty easily by removing non-essential apps from system/app using root explorer, and properly setting processor frequencies in profiles with SetCPU. The phone now is fast, snappy, and the battery has almost 3 days of autonomy with quite a lot of background processes
3. Contacts search/suggestion problem - now this one is truly annoying, and i can't seem to figure out the reason why this is happening. it didn't happen at the beginning. now here's the deal: whenever i want to send a new message, and type the name of the recipient, the phone does not recognize/suggest the name (or can't find it in the phonebook). the only way is to type in the FULL number (with + and prefixes), and only then it will recognize the recipient and show his/hers name. the other method is to search for the contact in the phonebook and then chose an option to send a sms/mms. i imported my contacts list from google, the same i did with previous roms and after resetting the phone, and never had such a problem.... the other part is opening people app, i.e. the phonebook. when scrolling through contacts, all are there, visible and accessible, but when trying to search for a specific entry (i have over 300 entries, so search option is truly a must-have), it only finds some contacts, but not all. and i do not know the solution for these problems. i tried meddling with which entries are visible, checking and unchecking all google contatcs, but the problem is still there...
does anybody have an idea? i tried googling for this one, but it seems i don't even know what keywords to use since this specific problem wasn't addressed in any of the AOKP or CM-related threads
neverone said:
okay, i posted a thread a few weeks ago on some issues with AOKP milestone 6 on htc wildfire.. now, after fine tuning several aspects of the phone i ran into more issues, that i do not know how to solve.....
1. an incredibly annoying lag when receiving call... first comes the ringtone, then, about 4-5 seconds later, the screen turns itself on, and only then the in-call image appears, with an option to answer/decline a call. i managed only to reduce the lag a bit by managing several profiles in SetCPU app, but the problem persists no matter what i do....
2. battery life and occasional twitching when flipping through home screens/ app drawer - this issue got solved pretty easily by removing non-essential apps from system/app using root explorer, and properly setting processor frequencies in profiles with SetCPU. The phone now is fast, snappy, and the battery has almost 3 days of autonomy with quite a lot of background processes
3. Contacts search/suggestion problem - now this one is truly annoying, and i can't seem to figure out the reason why this is happening. it didn't happen at the beginning. now here's the deal: whenever i want to send a new message, and type the name of the recipient, the phone does not recognize/suggest the name (or can't find it in the phonebook). the only way is to type in the FULL number (with + and prefixes), and only then it will recognize the recipient and show his/hers name. the other method is to search for the contact in the phonebook and then chose an option to send a sms/mms. i imported my contacts list from google, the same i did with previous roms and after resetting the phone, and never had such a problem.... the other part is opening people app, i.e. the phonebook. when scrolling through contacts, all are there, visible and accessible, but when trying to search for a specific entry (i have over 300 entries, so search option is truly a must-have), it only finds some contacts, but not all. and i do not know the solution for these problems. i tried meddling with which entries are visible, checking and unchecking all google contatcs, but the problem is still there...
does anybody have an idea? i tried googling for this one, but it seems i don't even know what keywords to use since this specific problem wasn't addressed in any of the AOKP or CM-related threads
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If I'm not mistaken you're already allowed to post in the developing section? I'd suggest you better post those ROM related stuff directly in the ROM thread - most likely people using that ROM (those who probably could give some answers) will follow that thread even if they rarely visit XDA. Furthermore other users may have similar issues and could find this stuff more easy
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If I'm not mistaken you're already allowed to post in the developing section? I'd suggest you better post those ROM related stuff directly in the ROM thread - most likely people using that ROM (those who probably could give some answers) will follow that thread even if they rarely visit XDA. Furthermore other users may have similar issues and could find this stuff more easy
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it seems i am... thanks for the suggestion! i just posted in the thread you suggested.. . hopefully that'll do

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