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Jerky messages screen

Is it just me, or is the SMS screen a bit jerky and slow? I do have a 1000+ messages in there, but I can't imagine why it would make the scrolling so poor.

Hes got looooooooads of mates...

dave1343 said:
Hes got looooooooads of mates...
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Actually it's almost 3 years worth of messages (transferred it from phone to phone).
Anyone else experiencing similar issues?

I had to factory reset my phone because of this a couple of days back. My contacts went blank and I could barely load the messages.

I can confirm this. Scrolling through sms is laggy and not very responsive. Even in threads with only less than 10 messages. So annoying...

Mines always been like that :-( grown to put up with it
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doesn't froyo fix this?

If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app. Try clearing your messages? Unless you need to know what happened 3 years ago?
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If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app.
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Technically no. They should have dealt with performance issues with a high volume of text messages. I work within software development, and something like this would most certainly raise a red flag.

Hey sorry to raise a thread from the dead.
My Messages app now runs extremely slowly - can take 5-10 seconds to load an SMS thread and sometimes lags when i'm typing a reply.
Sounds like other people have experienced similar issues. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? It's almost certainly down to having a large number of messages in the thread (over 3,500 from this one contact for reasons i won't go into!) but surely with a modern smartphone it should be able to handle lots of text messages! My iPhone with 2 years worth of messages had no such issues.
One other issue - for no reason whatsoever it somtimes jumps me back up to the very top of the thread of texts meaning i either have to spend ages scrolling down or back up and reload it go get it to show the most recent ones. Anyone else experienced this?

I dont have any issues with lag etc but i second the jump-to-top issue.. its happening once a day for sure and im sooo sick of it! Anyone knows anything?
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So just as an update on my woes - my phone on Friday randomly wiped every single one of my text messages. I reset the phone but nothing came back.
Great.
On the plus side, messages is now running very fast. But seriously, a smartphone that can't handle lots of text messages (which are surely microscopic in file size) is just pathetic.

A person who can't be bothered to store extra messages seperatly is pathetic. There are apps to store/back up messages and if you are constantly referencing 2 year old messages you need help.
Just my opinion though.

I realise your comments aren't targeted at me but perhaps rather than just insulting someone's choices you could actually be helpeful and tell them the names of the apps you talk of.

Not even going to bother addressing the insular comments.

Search "SMS backup" on the market. There are lots and lots of apps. "Backup to gmail" is one I saw that looks good. I personally don't news or use any backup solution for SMS.

[Q] Is there a rom where messaging doesnt slow down and die?

Hey everyone,
I seem to have issues with the desire Z same as my g1
This is really pissing me off cause i bought the desire z with all its extra processing power and ram thinking it would fix it up... but it hasnt. so i could of saved money and stayed with the g1.
My problem is that text messaging slows right down to the point it just frustrates me.
You open a message and it takes a few seconds to load on the screen then you type and hit send, takes another 10secs for the message to update on screen and then send.
Hit back to go back to ur list of messages and then wait longer for it to load that.
Like what the hell? Surely something can be done to keep it running well?
It seems to be the same with the std messaging app, the HTC one and also handcent.
They all seem to start doing the same thing and being slow and annoying.
Why? I dont get it? why?
Even if i limit the messages to delete at 200 it still is slow and horrible.
So anyway i am really hoping that someone will offer me some salvation and help me get a phone that i can message from and not get annoyed.
Thanks

How many messages do you have?

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How many messages do you have?
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bout 3000 total

thats definitely alot. isnt there an sms apk that allows you to batch the messages? I believe handcent has it. that would kind of zip them temporarily

Just use Handcent, never had any slowdowns

I actually had the same issue at one point, ended up losing all my messages due to some weird glitch (probably too many messages).
Thought to myself, is there any reason to actually keep ALL the messages that far back? Probably not. Set hard limits on how many texts before it wipes older texts and never had an issue since.
I dislike Handcent solely due to advertisements. I'd rather keep my data plan limited to more useful things than ads. (Not that I don't support the devs, but I don't have unlimited or cheap data plan up here in Canada, heh.)

blunted09 said:
thats definitely alot. isnt there an sms apk that allows you to batch the messages? I believe handcent has it. that would kind of zip them temporarily
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Dont know what you are meaning? But handcent lets it so it has a "click here to see older messages thing" Which i have enabled but has not changed anything.
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Just use Handcent, never had any slowdowns
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I am using handcent and it is pissing me off. I try and send a message and hit send. if i push the power button before it comes up on screen (which takes about 10 seconds) then it wont send the message till i turn the phone on again and wait for it to display on the screen.
I dont get it.
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I actually had the same issue at one point, ended up losing all my messages due to some weird glitch (probably too many messages).
Thought to myself, is there any reason to actually keep ALL the messages that far back? Probably not. Set hard limits on how many texts before it wipes older texts and never had an issue since.
I dislike Handcent solely due to advertisements. I'd rather keep my data plan limited to more useful things than ads. (Not that I don't support the devs, but I don't have unlimited or cheap data plan up here in Canada, heh.)
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I might try setting them all to delete at about 100 instead of 200? See if that makes a difference?
The htc messaging app is annoying cause when you click send it comes up with "please wait" on the screen and you cannot do anything till that finishes. I am going ot try the standard one to see if that happens or not.
Thanks for the suggestions. i will try removing old messages and i have set the limit to 150.

there is an option in handcent under the menu settings that allows u to specifically batch a certain amount of messages i think! im using chompsms now as i think its much faster. try that one out

i tried to change it to 150 message limit, and nothing got deleted, then tried to use an app to delete some, then somehow all of my messages got wiped when messaging app crashed. so now i have none hahaha.
but it is running much quicker. I will try and keep the limit of messages down and see how it goes.
Thanks everyone

its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.

ck_jun said:
its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.
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To be fair though, you've changed a whole lot of stuff, and not just Sense, going to Cyanogen. So do we really know Sense is the main culprit here ?

ck_jun said:
its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.
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Thanks for that.
There is a couple of things i like about sense, but not a lot.
i dont like the interface, i like the dialer. and the icons. But yea.
I might give CM6 a try.
Thanks for the feedback

why the hell would anyone have 6000 text's?

dietotherhythm said:
why the hell would anyone have 6000 text's?
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why the hell not?
for me deleting text messages is like deleting emails - you don't do that anymore, you archive stuff.

I know how you feel though. I love the Sense UI because it's such eye candy but when it comes to storing messages, once you get to the 3k+ mark it starts to be very sluggish. With C6.1 it's really fast but the interface is not as sweet but very functional. I kinda miss Sense even if it was hella clunky. I just might install that new Egyptian RUU to try it out again since the software version is higher.

Well it has been working much quicker with CM 6.1 but i miss the eye candy
But would much rather the whole overall speed than some prettyness. I will just wait for something new to come out

robzonpl said:
why the hell not?
for me deleting text messages is like deleting emails - you don't do that anymore, you archive stuff.
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call me old fashioned but I like to keep my inbox everywhere nice and clean unless it's something I need. Then I save it to a 1.2mb floppy disk....lol

1.44mb?
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I was reading an article over at Anandtech the other day that commented on SMS slowdown in android.
I’ve expressed my frustration with Android’s sometimes extraordinarily sluggish SMS database and messaging application in the past, which slows down after a few days of heavy texting.
It’s something I’ve heard other users complain about, so I know I’m not alone, and even changing clients doesn’t help since they end up using the same SMS subsystem.
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So I think your options are either deleting most of your messages or changing OS.

Someone and or google need to get their butt into gear and do some focus on the messaging subsystem

[Q] Issues with sms.

im having odd issues with texting..
On using either the standard text app or handcent.
-When i open the program it takes 10-20 seconds to load.
-Clicking on a thread sometimes results in a completly different thread to open
-Sometimes threads take upwards of 20-30 seconds to open.
-When a text is received it takes 10-15 seconds to be able to reply or even use the phone.
Ive tried reflashing, wiping dalvik.
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Do you have a bunch of text history on your phone? I found that if I have a bunch of stored texts, it slowed down the messaging app.
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Yeah, i nearly never delete my texts. why should having a bunch of text slow down the program. this seems like something that should be resolved...

That sort of thing is a problem on pretty much every phone. If you want to resolve it, clear out some texts. If you think about it, it makes complete sense why it slows everything down. It's because the messaging app tries to load as many messages into memory as it possibly can, since it doesn't know if you're gonna go and try to look at an SMS from forever ago. Just like having a bunch of crap on your computer slows it down, same thing with a smartphone.

Sounds like the cache is gigantic...clear the cache from the applications menu, or delete some messages.

think of it this way.... we are carrying a flaghip phone for a company who is in the running for dominating the market. The average user does not delete their texts nor would they know how to.
This is an issue regarding both cache and application.
the resolve for this would create a simple script to archive texts for each user and archive each user past a page.
If indeed it is of course a text issue.
Deleting texts is for cheats and whores. i save all of mine to throw it in their face.
or is it more of an issue that the sprint developers cannot find a legitimate reason to push the text msg file to the sd card to help quicken the phone.
prior to me using an android based phone, texting was my addiction. Now, its a hassle. in the age that twitter and fb status breaks free, dont you think txts should be common place?

in the age that twitter and fb status breaks free, dont you think txts should be common place?
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No, you should be using trillian or google talk by now, texting is for children.
You should write HTC a strongly worded letter for them to fix this outrage that every other smartphone ever has.

jesuspgt said:
No, you should be using trillian or google talk by now, texting is for children.
You should write HTC a strongly worded letter for them to fix this outrage that every other smartphone ever has.
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i dont want to port my number to GV i like having two seperate numbers as it is.

Mango messaging... the downside

The mango messaging system seems nice and all, but I really wonder why they did not keep it seperated.
I had my doubts and than I read this article http://wmpoweruser.com/mango-and-messaging-we-have-a-problem/ which sums up some more issues.
Basically my biggest problem is that we send more important stuff trough SMS it has a much higher value than an IM. So whenever somebody smsses an adress, i will need to scroll trough 100s of IMs which I can not clear since the address is still there in one of those messages.
Second: the media are different, you can not expect the other user to switch to FB chat to MSN than to sms because I want to change service, this still incorporate 3 different media for the majority of the users namely a WL desktop client, facebook webpage and a phone for regular texting (which also costs money so people will use it differently)
Third, we used msn when we were 12, now nobody uses it in my country but I would like to use FB chat... This is not possible, you can only switch off FB chat or switch off both. So the whole feature will be useless if I dont want to use msn/windows live messenger.
Notifications: what if smsses are inportant but IMs not, hopefully I will be able to receive a toast ONLY with sms messages and just let the IMs slide. Imagine receiving 100 messages every 10 minutes it will drive you nuts. And here comes the next problem when there is an important sms inbetween you dont know who send it, because if you open up messages they all look the same so you dont know who texted you (important) or has send you and im (which has less priority).
I wish they can make a new tab for the im conversations or atleast filter the thread down on ALL / SMS / IM. As it is now, it will be nice for kids but if you are 16+ it will become a major pain to find what is important and what is just spam.
The system right now is shortsighted and of poor value. an implementation like blackberry's is better. SMS is a different system, mail is a different system, IM is as well, you all respond differently on each one of them. It should be possible to mannage each seperately. Now ill have to be always offline and rely on third party just to im trough FB which kills the use of this native feature, but SMS messages are just to important to blend with the IMs.

This is all speculation to be fair, they have beta testers so if there are issues with notifications they will probably be aware of these. I'm happy to use a separate messaging client and keep my messaging hub for sms only as long as WLM is allowed again in IM+ and others. That would just make things easy.
On a side note people should stop complaining that nobody uses WLM, enough with that, it's the most used IM client in the world!
I'm not 12 andstill this is my number one choice for IM as I barely use my facebook account and it has integrated facebook chat anyway.

fair (and while I wrote the article)
one major issue with being in a beta of anything is that it takes time for testing and that's huge. I mean looking at Adam Lein and others, the sms interface was a bit bare and naked - save from the actual threaded view.
In nodo, we have seen the issue of some lag in the SMS window (not nearly as bad as windows mobile, but still very noticeable) and there needs to be some richer options for recall, optimization and trash collection.
I love the idea for having a central messaging hub that integrates the services I use most (microsoft specifically). I still use MSN and it's my favorite messaging tool (I used yahoo early in college, and AIM in high school) so I use MSN a lot.
The notification I don't feel is a huge issue (as Eldar contends). There are far more bigger problems with the SMS view from a variety of different contexts. All in all, there may be a big problem. I doubt it will be solved till Apollo but that is definitely a worse case scenario.
I mean yes, the sms lag is better in nodo, but not by much

One thing to note, if you dont want to use WLM or Facebook chat just change the method of communication to SMS. There is absolutely nothing forcing you to send IM's if YOU dont want to, its only there as a convenience to WP7 users so you can continue your conversation across the different mediums seamlessly. Just because someone is online on Facebook chat or WLM doesnt mean you cant just send an SMS if that is your preference.

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One thing to note, if you dont want to use WLM or Facebook chat just change the method of communication to SMS. There is absolutely nothing forcing you to send IM's if YOU dont want to, its only there as a convenience to WP7 users so you can continue your conversation across the different mediums seamlessly. Just because someone is online on Facebook chat or WLM doesnt mean you cant just send an SMS if that is your preference.
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I know. Thats not the problem. But it will render the built in IM useless if disabled.
The problem is the communication trough SMS is totally different than the communication trough IM. Which will occur on different devices still for the majority out there. An SMS to me is still a high priority thing in some cases, if you want to make an appointment it works fine trough sms, however if its cluttered with all IM's from other users and stuff Im afraid one can easily get lost in the received messages and not find the IM of the appointment when looking for it or trying to find it again after you have read it.
Having IMs seperated (which are in general sended way more frequently with less important stuff than SMS) would be better because now the user can decide to use the built in IM and keep it seperated from the SMS OR mix them in a thread if he/she desires. But one will still have the advantage of starting an IM out of the people hub.
Also I know you dont have to use it, I've seen all the demo's and read about it. But the thing is what if I want to use it but just Facebook and what if I still want to see my SMS messages seperated. Using just FB chat is not possible atm, it will also pull up your WLM contacts, it would be totally cool if I could set MSN status as offline and FB status as online, but as it looks right now its only possible the other way around...
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Picture this: you have the device in your pocket, its fine if people want to contact me trough Facebook, but if somebody sends me an SMS with the appointmet and half an hour later starts talking to me on FB chat (because he/she is on FB than), I check my phone and the SMS with the appointment has sunk all the way down since there have been 10 new IM's from this person.
Its easy to lose/forget the valuable information if you can not check your phone every minute.
Dont get me wrong, its a feature with great potential but as of now, it will need more control over the different services (individual statusses per service) and some way to filter out the SMS messages and hide the IM or vica versa.
This feature will benefit a lot more when it would also be possible for whatapp to be integrated, which resembles the SMS a lot better than IM.

Maybe Microsoft could add a filter option? For example, when the SMS filter is toggled it would only show text messages as well send only text messages .

@Marvin_S: You could come across the same situation if you get a lot of SMS's as well, same as with email. I see your point but making them separate just makes it messier, having to switch back and forth to send messages and having to determine where a new message is. If you start adding separate notifications for each protocol then it becomes even more complex to implement and manage.
Much easier to have all the messages on one screen and you can easily just scroll to find what you want and not have to try and figure out by which method the message was delivered.

SMS isn't just for important conversations. There is a reason why people run through thousands of SMS in a month nowadays, and its not because they are really important. Its because people use SMS the same way they use IM, to chat.
If you are getting something really important in an SMS (like an appointment), it might make sense to copy it over into a task or your calendar.

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Why would it make anything messier? It should be optional ofcourse, so it will only help those who will need to keep it organised.
Well SMS and IM are very different. That some of us use it the same way is a choice of course, just like some people chose to use it as different media to communicate.
You can NOT receive IM's if you dont want to receive it (OFFLINE) and the other party will not be able to send you one, while with SMS it will be sent whenever somebody desires and will be read whenever the reader has the time (always delivered --> higher priority/value).
This for me is a fundamental difference and makes SMS more reliable for appointments or letting somebody know where you are on the go.
And I just wondered why MS chose to do it this way, while all the other platforms have these forms of communication seperated.
I can see this having a good and a bad side, maybe I worry too much about the negative aspect, but it can be solved easily by providing us with some more settings to have more control over how we want to receive our IM's and Texts.
Like sheltem said a switch or a pivot with All/IM/Text will make it simple for the user to narrow its search down. And maybe defaulting it to All (like email, All/unread/flag) and having the same interface to delete IM's and texts will be great.
I have faith MS will come up with a solution which will satisfy both parties and I have full faith that they will...

thank god I didn't have to reiterate my position ad nauseum
I've been doing that since the article has been written and while I don't mind spirited debate of how windows phone is versus how it could be, it's like many users sorta either focused on Eldar's contentions, the notification, or the sms window and not the total sums of each argument.
As I said before, for us, geeks, there may not be much of an issue. But consider who/what microsoft is trying to target - everyone else. Place yourself in their shoes, and of course it can lead to some frustration and some easy mistakes from users thinking hey I sent it this way when in fact it came in another way - EVEN WITH THE TEXT/FACEBOOK option open.
I don't think there is anything wrong with an extra swipe gesture to switch mode of communication. It is almost the same thing microsoft is doing, but instead of it being in the menu setting, it is in the face of the user. And sometimes, that makes all of the difference.
I'm not knocking the idea or the service, but asking everyone to consider how people without windows phone may view it. And that empathy is important for Microsoft to make it a success. So it's not a knock at Microsoft or their intentions.

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thank god I didn't have to reiterate my position ad nauseum
I've been doing that since the article has been written and while I don't mind spirited debate of how windows phone is versus how it could be, it's like many users sorta either focused on Eldar's contentions, the notification, or the sms window and not the total sums of each argument.
As I said before, for us, geeks, there may not be much of an issue. But consider who/what microsoft is trying to target - everyone else. Place yourself in their shoes, and of course it can lead to some frustration and some easy mistakes from users thinking hey I sent it this way when in fact it came in another way - EVEN WITH THE TEXT/FACEBOOK option open.
I don't think there is anything wrong with an extra swipe gesture to switch mode of communication. It is almost the same thing microsoft is doing, but instead of it being in the menu setting, it is in the face of the user. And sometimes, that makes all of the difference.
I'm not knocking the idea or the service, but asking everyone to consider how people without windows phone may view it. And that empathy is important for Microsoft to make it a success. So it's not a knock at Microsoft or their intentions.
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Exactly... this is how the a standard user will use it:
Im running late, hurrying to get to the station on time. Ill text my friends "hey Im on my way to the station" but he left his computer on with his FB account and the message will get send to his FB account because I forget to switch to SMS mode... I think I sended the message just fine, but sended it trough FB instead of text. Of course there is this status text saying FB, but still.
It might sound really stupid and exaggerated, but I can assure you this will happen and it will be annoying to constantly switch back to SMS if you do really have to SMS. Having a seperate click in the people hub for sent IM, sent SMS, or a pivot in the messaging hub will totally rule out these errors.
But this is ofcourse the downside... and hopefully they come up with something smart and think a bit outside of the box. The system has great potential, no doubt.

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Exactly... this is how the a standard user will use it:
Im running late, hurrying to get to the station on time. Ill text my friends "hey Im on my way to the station" but he left his computer on with his FB account and the message will get send to his FB account because I forget to switch to SMS mode... I think I sended the message just fine, but sended it trough FB instead of text. Of course there is this status text saying FB, but still.
It might sound really stupid and exaggerated, but I can assure you this will happen and it will be annoying to constantly switch back to SMS if you do really have to SMS. Having a seperate click in the people hub for sent IM, sent SMS, or a pivot in the messaging hub will totally rule out these errors.
But this is ofcourse the downside... and hopefully they come up with something smart and think a bit outside of the box. The system has great potential, no doubt.
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I know personally even though it says the service in a tiny font, I'll cry foul because of user error. Microsoft's main goal is to sorta cease some consensual user error not increase it. There are a variety of ideas to kick around
One comment noted a notification system in the messaging hub that indicates where the user messaged you at (like the notifications portion of the people hub) in conjunction with the swipe/pivot gestures to make a fairly good solution of which service the notification is coming from and keeping it organized.
Adding to that paradigm, I can still see how the initial chat window serves a function, as a unified way the person contacted you recently. And I have to be honest, that would be really a great and refined method of implementing a submessaging system full of notification and a clean user experience.
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does a swipe really complicate the user more than a tap setting>mode>switch service to (sms/facebook/msn)
I'm sorry, I don't see how a pivot is less complex than the system that is in mango already. replacing the finger taps for one or two pivots...
imho should've posted this write up on xda

Well the thing is MS has its vision of having everything related into a horzontal scrolling panorama. Which is absolutely great.
And they want you to use the settings menu as less as possible, so in this case yeah this switch setting (which I will be using frequently) will be more annoying since its click select close than type. While the pivot swiping to the right will get you into sms directly and the user will always stay in the same "level" or layer.
And it follows the consistency of the system this way.
You will have all the options with 1 just one pivot menu:
All (which is the way it works right now) / SMS / IM / Online
if you are on all, its the threaded view with default reply option as it is now. When swipe to the right it filters the messages down to sms only with reply as SMS.
Im the same but than reply as IM.

actally that too is a good point
Microsoft has made a unified design experience focusing on pivots and wipes with metro. The idea of tapping through settings is sadly reminescent of apple and android; somethign I don't really want to go back to anytime soon

Marvin_S said:
Exactly... this is how the a standard user will use it:
Im running late, hurrying to get to the station on time. Ill text my friends "hey Im on my way to the station" but he left his computer on with his FB account and the message will get send to his FB account because I forget to switch to SMS mode... I think I sended the message just fine, but sended it trough FB instead of text. Of course there is this status text saying FB, but still.
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I agree that there is the potential for a problem here. Ideally, the facebook connection would be detected as idle and the OS would choose the fallback method of SMS. I haven't used it so I can't say for sure how it handles this, I'd hope it is that good. Of course, that still leaves us with the potential for problems in the window that it takes for the user to go from online to idle/away. Not nearly as big of an issue though.
It all comes down to how accurately the software can determine a user's presence. If the OS automatically sends a message via Facebook because it knows the user is actively using Facebook then I don't think there is an issue.

Personally I think ms should just separate the all and using the metro theme, sperste elm, fb chat and SMS. So you just slide. I don't use wlm, and hardly use hotmail there spam filter is awful.
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Actually, hotmaii filters out spam just fine for me. Quite well, actually.
On topic. I think we should wait and see how this works in its entirety. I don't think it's going to be as big of an issue as you guys think it may be.
And, separating the services defeats the purpose of the threaded convo view in the first place.

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SMS isn't just for important conversations. There is a reason why people run through thousands of SMS in a month nowadays, and its not because they are really important. Its because people use SMS the same way they use IM, to chat.
If you are getting something really important in an SMS (like an appointment), it might make sense to copy it over into a task or your calendar.
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This.
Seriously. If you got something important to note you probably should learn to write it down or train your working memory to recall the info instead of relying so much on technology.

Marvin_S said:
Exactly... this is how the a standard user will use it:
Im running late, hurrying to get to the station on time. Ill text my friends "hey Im on my way to the station" but he left his computer on with his FB account and the message will get send to his FB account because I forget to switch to SMS mode... I think I sended the message just fine, but sended it trough FB instead of text. Of course there is this status text saying FB, but still.
It might sound really stupid and exaggerated, but I can assure you this will happen and it will be annoying to constantly switch back to SMS if you do really have to SMS. Having a seperate click in the people hub for sent IM, sent SMS, or a pivot in the messaging hub will totally rule out these errors.
But this is ofcourse the downside... and hopefully they come up with something smart and think a bit outside of the box. The system has great potential, no doubt.
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Hmm, interesting my reasonable response and the response of others would be to hit the line of communication the person would check the most which arguably is a person's self phone.
Too each his own for sure, but I don't think it's out of the norm or rather is the norm that people would message someone on their phone first, especially if going somewhere to meet someone.

Restoring thousands of messages

I have been using SMS Backup and Restore to restore my text messages. Recently, I lost my messages and didn't backup. Well, my gf's phone has the messages and I want to get them off. What I did was backup using the app, which makes an XML. Then I opened it and changed all of my number to hers, and changed all incoming messages to outgoing, and vice versa. When I try to restore all these messages, 16k, it freezes my messaging app afterwards. Is there any other app that would do this better/allow me to switch the numbers / incoming/outgoing aspects to make it look like i sent my messages and recieved hers? Or is there a way I could get the messaging app (handcent too) to stop FCing?

Well, you should have done a backup. Do not change the document. Also, by doing so.. it'll just confuse the program and lock it up. :-D It sounds to me like you're really spying on her.

runcool said:
Well, you should have done a backup. Do not change the document. Also, by doing so.. it'll just confuse the program and lock it up. :-D It sounds to me like you're really spying on her.
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LoL... I thought that's what it sounded like to me.

No its the conversation between me and her, it is our text messages lol. And I dont think it is confusing it, I just think since I am restoring 16k messages it locks up.

16 thousand! that's why it wont restore right there. My evo gets bogged down after 300 messages. You should never have that many texts, you are just asking for trouble.

Well her phone is a Huwaei Cricket Ascend and its fine with them haha. I think it is just because I am restoring them, and they arent just on there.

Again, a few hundred is a lot, a few thousand is ridiculous. It takes over 10 minutes to delete about 400 texts from my evo. Restoring 16 thousand will likely take hours upon hours to complete.

Takes like 30 mins to restore. Even using handcent to delete though, takes hours

I mean, do you really need 16 THOUSAND messages in your phone? You have the xml file, just open it up in Word and print it out.

Lmao good idea Sitlet..I never thought of that, however I just took screenshots of my favorite part of the texts and just keep them to myself. If I wanna feel good, I reread them
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sitlet said:
I mean, do you really need 16 THOUSAND messages in your phone? You have the xml file, just open it up in Word and print it out.
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Yes he does, and everybody he knows should do this as well, in fact he should have even more. I am saying this because 3/4 of all the phones I see come in for service are for freezing/locking up. The reason, 90% of the time, is too many texts/emails/voicemails. People like this keep service centers open.

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Yes he does, and everybody he knows should do this as well, in fact he should have even more. I am saying this because 3/4 of all the phones I see come in for service are for freezing/locking up. The reason, 90% of the time, is too many texts/emails/voicemails. People like this keep service centers open.
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I loled
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

Actually, I restored all 17k without a hitch this time. Phone runs fine.

DRatJr said:
Actually, I restored all 17k without a hitch this time. Phone runs fine.
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The higher end phones tend to handle it better but imagine a Moment or Hero with that many messages and 100+ voicemails. See it atleast 3-4 times a day.

Yea lol. Evo handled it okay. I get some lag with message apps. Like 3 - 4 seconds tops and only when opening. Wonder if I OC will it fix it.. hrmm

Wonder if I OC will it fix it.. hrmm
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No it wont. Deleting your 17 thousand messages will.