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Hi
My dash seems to be really laggy lately.
Is it due to the build up of txt msgs?
I'm on 6.1 and the phone seems to be a lot slower than it was when i first got it. Any tips on how to speed things up or do i need to delete all txt msgs??
any tips please?
I forget where in the default tmo Rom is task manager, but you could always kill text messaging after you're done using it.
I updated my dash to ricky's rom maybe the 2nd day after i bought it, its got omap overclocking and i've sped up my dash that way.
Perhaps you need to see what programs that you have are running all the time (with task manager) and see if disabling/uninstalling apps would help.
im running kavana 6.1 and its just recently been really laggy.
I clear my tasks and still lags. I starting to think its my txt msg logs since i txt anywhere from 2000-8000 a month and never delete any of them.
Is that the case?
Yeah, dude!!
Holy, shizah!!!
That many. Not to sound like an ass, but hell yeah, that's the prob. you need to run a script that either copies these to a text file somewhere routinely, or just straight up delete these.
Let me give everyone a word to the wise. For a fact, the more messages that are unread on your phone, the worse off the battery life will be. When you have unread voicemails, text messages, email messages, you are destroying your memory and your phones battery.
If you wanna seee a noticeable difference in both memory and battery life, read and delete all old messages of any variety. This goes for non smartphones and smartphones. This is a general rule of thumb. If anyone feels the need to wax intellectual, please, kill that idea. It's a moot point. I know this to be the case, and you can argue all day. Facts are facts.
Hope this helps, man. If you need me to write you an app that eats your text messages routinely or copies them to storage or whatever, just pm me. We can figure out a solution that suits you best!! Later.
hawee said:
im running kavana 6.1 and its just recently been really laggy.
I clear my tasks and still lags. I starting to think its my txt msg logs since i txt anywhere from 2000-8000 a month and never delete any of them.
Is that the case?
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outerdepth said:
Holy, shizah!!!
That many. Not to sound like an ass, but hell yeah, that's the prob. you need to run a script that either copies these to a text file somewhere routinely, or just straight up delete these.
Let me give everyone a word to the wise. For a fact, the more messages that are unread on your phone, the worse off the battery life will be. When you have unread voicemails, text messages, email messages, you are destroying your memory and your phones battery.
If you wanna seee a noticeable difference in both memory and battery life, read and delete all old messages of any variety. This goes for non smartphones and smartphones. This is a general rule of thumb. If anyone feels the need to wax intellectual, please, kill that idea. It's a moot point. I know this to be the case, and you can argue all day. Facts are facts.
Hope this helps, man. If you need me to write you an app that eats your text messages routinely or copies them to storage or whatever, just pm me. We can figure out a solution that suits you best!! Later.
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Maybe you could try Jeyo Mobile Extender for Outlook. It syncronizes all your sms to your pc, so you can delete them from your phone and still don't lose them. Also you can send sms from outlook, so it's a little faster.
Hope it helped
Cheers
Use Chome Configurator to remove any home screen shortcuts you don't need.
That's all I've done so far, and it made it REALLY fast. No oc'ing needed.
One often over looked issue is the Notification Que, if you dont clean it out your device will slow down. I once deleted over 500kb of old entries after a month of use. Now I delete it weekly
what do u mean by the notification que. how do i go about in doing that?
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what do u mean by the notification que. how do i go about in doing that?
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The simple way is to use SKtools, it does pretty much everything you need as far as device hidden settings and cleaning management.
Is there any way to delete the text messages on the phone from a pc? I've been trying to delete these messages for the longest. It takes about 15 minutes for each contact's messages. I tried to delete it using menu>tools>empty deleted items but when I rebooted my phone after about 500 messages getting deleted they reappeared right back in the inbox. Im now goin to the deleted items folder and deleting all from there instead. I hope it works, but it is still slow.
outerdepth, can I pm you for that script you wrote to delete messages? I really need it.
Is it just me, or is the SMS screen a bit jerky and slow? I do have a 1000+ messages in there, but I can't imagine why it would make the scrolling so poor.
Hes got looooooooads of mates...
dave1343 said:
Hes got looooooooads of mates...
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Actually it's almost 3 years worth of messages (transferred it from phone to phone).
Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
I had to factory reset my phone because of this a couple of days back. My contacts went blank and I could barely load the messages.
I can confirm this. Scrolling through sms is laggy and not very responsive. Even in threads with only less than 10 messages. So annoying...
Mines always been like that :-( grown to put up with it
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doesn't froyo fix this?
If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app. Try clearing your messages? Unless you need to know what happened 3 years ago?
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If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app.
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Technically no. They should have dealt with performance issues with a high volume of text messages. I work within software development, and something like this would most certainly raise a red flag.
Hey sorry to raise a thread from the dead.
My Messages app now runs extremely slowly - can take 5-10 seconds to load an SMS thread and sometimes lags when i'm typing a reply.
Sounds like other people have experienced similar issues. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? It's almost certainly down to having a large number of messages in the thread (over 3,500 from this one contact for reasons i won't go into!) but surely with a modern smartphone it should be able to handle lots of text messages! My iPhone with 2 years worth of messages had no such issues.
One other issue - for no reason whatsoever it somtimes jumps me back up to the very top of the thread of texts meaning i either have to spend ages scrolling down or back up and reload it go get it to show the most recent ones. Anyone else experienced this?
I dont have any issues with lag etc but i second the jump-to-top issue.. its happening once a day for sure and im sooo sick of it! Anyone knows anything?
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So just as an update on my woes - my phone on Friday randomly wiped every single one of my text messages. I reset the phone but nothing came back.
Great.
On the plus side, messages is now running very fast. But seriously, a smartphone that can't handle lots of text messages (which are surely microscopic in file size) is just pathetic.
A person who can't be bothered to store extra messages seperatly is pathetic. There are apps to store/back up messages and if you are constantly referencing 2 year old messages you need help.
Just my opinion though.
I realise your comments aren't targeted at me but perhaps rather than just insulting someone's choices you could actually be helpeful and tell them the names of the apps you talk of.
Not even going to bother addressing the insular comments.
Search "SMS backup" on the market. There are lots and lots of apps. "Backup to gmail" is one I saw that looks good. I personally don't news or use any backup solution for SMS.
Hey everyone,
I seem to have issues with the desire Z same as my g1
This is really pissing me off cause i bought the desire z with all its extra processing power and ram thinking it would fix it up... but it hasnt. so i could of saved money and stayed with the g1.
My problem is that text messaging slows right down to the point it just frustrates me.
You open a message and it takes a few seconds to load on the screen then you type and hit send, takes another 10secs for the message to update on screen and then send.
Hit back to go back to ur list of messages and then wait longer for it to load that.
Like what the hell? Surely something can be done to keep it running well?
It seems to be the same with the std messaging app, the HTC one and also handcent.
They all seem to start doing the same thing and being slow and annoying.
Why? I dont get it? why?
Even if i limit the messages to delete at 200 it still is slow and horrible.
So anyway i am really hoping that someone will offer me some salvation and help me get a phone that i can message from and not get annoyed.
Thanks
How many messages do you have?
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How many messages do you have?
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bout 3000 total
thats definitely alot. isnt there an sms apk that allows you to batch the messages? I believe handcent has it. that would kind of zip them temporarily
Just use Handcent, never had any slowdowns
I actually had the same issue at one point, ended up losing all my messages due to some weird glitch (probably too many messages).
Thought to myself, is there any reason to actually keep ALL the messages that far back? Probably not. Set hard limits on how many texts before it wipes older texts and never had an issue since.
I dislike Handcent solely due to advertisements. I'd rather keep my data plan limited to more useful things than ads. (Not that I don't support the devs, but I don't have unlimited or cheap data plan up here in Canada, heh.)
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thats definitely alot. isnt there an sms apk that allows you to batch the messages? I believe handcent has it. that would kind of zip them temporarily
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Dont know what you are meaning? But handcent lets it so it has a "click here to see older messages thing" Which i have enabled but has not changed anything.
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Just use Handcent, never had any slowdowns
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I am using handcent and it is pissing me off. I try and send a message and hit send. if i push the power button before it comes up on screen (which takes about 10 seconds) then it wont send the message till i turn the phone on again and wait for it to display on the screen.
I dont get it.
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I actually had the same issue at one point, ended up losing all my messages due to some weird glitch (probably too many messages).
Thought to myself, is there any reason to actually keep ALL the messages that far back? Probably not. Set hard limits on how many texts before it wipes older texts and never had an issue since.
I dislike Handcent solely due to advertisements. I'd rather keep my data plan limited to more useful things than ads. (Not that I don't support the devs, but I don't have unlimited or cheap data plan up here in Canada, heh.)
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I might try setting them all to delete at about 100 instead of 200? See if that makes a difference?
The htc messaging app is annoying cause when you click send it comes up with "please wait" on the screen and you cannot do anything till that finishes. I am going ot try the standard one to see if that happens or not.
Thanks for the suggestions. i will try removing old messages and i have set the limit to 150.
there is an option in handcent under the menu settings that allows u to specifically batch a certain amount of messages i think! im using chompsms now as i think its much faster. try that one out
i tried to change it to 150 message limit, and nothing got deleted, then tried to use an app to delete some, then somehow all of my messages got wiped when messaging app crashed. so now i have none hahaha.
but it is running much quicker. I will try and keep the limit of messages down and see how it goes.
Thanks everyone
its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.
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its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.
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To be fair though, you've changed a whole lot of stuff, and not just Sense, going to Cyanogen. So do we really know Sense is the main culprit here ?
ck_jun said:
its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.
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Thanks for that.
There is a couple of things i like about sense, but not a lot.
i dont like the interface, i like the dialer. and the icons. But yea.
I might give CM6 a try.
Thanks for the feedback
why the hell would anyone have 6000 text's?
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why the hell would anyone have 6000 text's?
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why the hell not?
for me deleting text messages is like deleting emails - you don't do that anymore, you archive stuff.
I know how you feel though. I love the Sense UI because it's such eye candy but when it comes to storing messages, once you get to the 3k+ mark it starts to be very sluggish. With C6.1 it's really fast but the interface is not as sweet but very functional. I kinda miss Sense even if it was hella clunky. I just might install that new Egyptian RUU to try it out again since the software version is higher.
Well it has been working much quicker with CM 6.1 but i miss the eye candy
But would much rather the whole overall speed than some prettyness. I will just wait for something new to come out
robzonpl said:
why the hell not?
for me deleting text messages is like deleting emails - you don't do that anymore, you archive stuff.
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call me old fashioned but I like to keep my inbox everywhere nice and clean unless it's something I need. Then I save it to a 1.2mb floppy disk....lol
1.44mb?
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I was reading an article over at Anandtech the other day that commented on SMS slowdown in android.
I’ve expressed my frustration with Android’s sometimes extraordinarily sluggish SMS database and messaging application in the past, which slows down after a few days of heavy texting.
It’s something I’ve heard other users complain about, so I know I’m not alone, and even changing clients doesn’t help since they end up using the same SMS subsystem.
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So I think your options are either deleting most of your messages or changing OS.
Someone and or google need to get their butt into gear and do some focus on the messaging subsystem
Hey everyone, I`ve noticed a terrible flaw in WP7 and maybe I`ve overlooked a way to overcome it.
The problem is that sms conversations that have become really long, create a huge lag in terms of scrolling, typing and pressing the send button. In Android and iPhone, they have that option where you can 'click to view previous messages' but in WP7, it seems to display all the messages no matter what which is probably what creates the huge lag.
Anyway to fix this?
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Hey everyone, I`ve noticed a terrible flaw in WP7 and maybe I`ve overlooked a way to overcome it.
The problem is that sms conversations that have become really long, create a huge lag in terms of scrolling, typing and pressing the send button. In Android and iPhone, they have that option where you can 'click to view previous messages' but in WP7, it seems to display all the messages no matter what which is probably what creates the huge lag.
Anyway to fix this?
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How many messages do you mean by saying "really long"?
The conversation with my girlfriend has a few hundred messages since I bought the Omnia7 but I cannot see any kind of lag.
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How many messages do you mean by saying "really long"?
The conversation with my girlfriend has a few hundred messages since I bought the Omnia7 but I cannot see any kind of lag.
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Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
impruv said:
Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
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ive noticed the same thing! they should do like they did on windows mobile when you scroll up you gotta press a button to load the next few cause theres no point loading every single text cause it can cause majorr lag
I had the same problem too. The only way to fix it is to delete the conversation.
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Strange, i just came on here to see if others had the same problem. It happens here too. A "see more" button would be great.
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Strange, i just came on here to see if others had the same problem. It happens here too. A "see more" button would be great.
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this is definitely a feature i would like to see!
Wish they add it in next update.
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My wp7 lags on messaging too after 1000 messages so slow
Darn, I was hoping it was just me and that i could fix it.
I really don't want to delete the conversation... guess I'll just have to live with it. I'm surprised they didn't implement the show more button like android/iPhone does it.
You should be deleting conversations that start to creep up into the 1k range.. I remember on android if i reached 1k in a thread; I wasn't able to delete it, it was so large that the os would choke..
So moral of the story, dont keep long threads..
Really??? You need that many texts???
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Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
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Any phone would do that. Blackberries do it, Androids do it, and iPhones do it as well. It's time to set a reasonable threshold for cached texts. It lags for the same reason the XDA Forum list lags a lot of browsers...
Microsoft really needs to add Text Backup to the Devices Site, like MyPhone had...
Dunno why you'd want 2k text cached, though (everyone says in case they need to look up information from an earlier text, lol...).
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You should be deleting conversations that start to creep up into the 1k range.. I remember on android if i reached 1k in a thread; I wasn't able to delete it, it was so large that the os would choke..
So moral of the story, dont keep long threads..
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I have several 1600-2200 message conversations. I haven't delete an sms since december of last year. there is no need in deleting them. fix the problem, move on.
smsbackup is great.
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Dunno why you'd want 2k text cached, though (everyone says in case they need to look up information from an earlier text, lol...).
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This.
Sure, some of those texts may well include important information but, and be honest, would you ever be able to find that one message out of 2000 when you actually needed it?
I'll admit, I don't text much these days as most everyone I used to text now owns a smartphone - I tend to email or IM. If I email all messages are stored in the cloud (Exchange, Hotmail, GMail etc etc) and easily searchable (I do wish WP7's email client would include server-search though) and if I get a piece of very important information thru IM I'll copy it into OneNote - which, again, lives in the cloud and is fully searchable.
Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
Yes me too. I didnt erase my sms since i bought this Mozart and i dont see lag at all up to now.
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Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
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then it should load like 100-200 texts and when you scroll back when you reach the end it should automatically load 100 more before you get to the end
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then it should load like 100-200 texts and when you scroll back when you reach the end it should automatically load 100 more before you get to the end
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I promise somebody would find a problem with this... Like I said, I honestly don't mind because I don't keep thousands of texts, and I send a healthy amount a month... But I don't let them collect for a year like some users...
As far as the lag, I haven't seen it, I'm guessing because I keep it at a reasonable amount...
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Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
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Its not vital to me, but sometimes you want to keep the texts from someone special, or someone who isn't around anymore. I would delete them, but I do not like deleting anything knowing that I'll NEVER get it back if I wanted. With the iPhone, I backed up the SMS database file iTunes backed up and then deleted the texts from the phone. That's all I needed.
I have been using SMS Backup and Restore to restore my text messages. Recently, I lost my messages and didn't backup. Well, my gf's phone has the messages and I want to get them off. What I did was backup using the app, which makes an XML. Then I opened it and changed all of my number to hers, and changed all incoming messages to outgoing, and vice versa. When I try to restore all these messages, 16k, it freezes my messaging app afterwards. Is there any other app that would do this better/allow me to switch the numbers / incoming/outgoing aspects to make it look like i sent my messages and recieved hers? Or is there a way I could get the messaging app (handcent too) to stop FCing?
Well, you should have done a backup. Do not change the document. Also, by doing so.. it'll just confuse the program and lock it up. :-D It sounds to me like you're really spying on her.
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Well, you should have done a backup. Do not change the document. Also, by doing so.. it'll just confuse the program and lock it up. :-D It sounds to me like you're really spying on her.
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LoL... I thought that's what it sounded like to me.
No its the conversation between me and her, it is our text messages lol. And I dont think it is confusing it, I just think since I am restoring 16k messages it locks up.
16 thousand! that's why it wont restore right there. My evo gets bogged down after 300 messages. You should never have that many texts, you are just asking for trouble.
Well her phone is a Huwaei Cricket Ascend and its fine with them haha. I think it is just because I am restoring them, and they arent just on there.
Again, a few hundred is a lot, a few thousand is ridiculous. It takes over 10 minutes to delete about 400 texts from my evo. Restoring 16 thousand will likely take hours upon hours to complete.
Takes like 30 mins to restore. Even using handcent to delete though, takes hours
I mean, do you really need 16 THOUSAND messages in your phone? You have the xml file, just open it up in Word and print it out.
Lmao good idea Sitlet..I never thought of that, however I just took screenshots of my favorite part of the texts and just keep them to myself. If I wanna feel good, I reread them
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I mean, do you really need 16 THOUSAND messages in your phone? You have the xml file, just open it up in Word and print it out.
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Yes he does, and everybody he knows should do this as well, in fact he should have even more. I am saying this because 3/4 of all the phones I see come in for service are for freezing/locking up. The reason, 90% of the time, is too many texts/emails/voicemails. People like this keep service centers open.
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Yes he does, and everybody he knows should do this as well, in fact he should have even more. I am saying this because 3/4 of all the phones I see come in for service are for freezing/locking up. The reason, 90% of the time, is too many texts/emails/voicemails. People like this keep service centers open.
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I loled
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Actually, I restored all 17k without a hitch this time. Phone runs fine.
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Actually, I restored all 17k without a hitch this time. Phone runs fine.
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The higher end phones tend to handle it better but imagine a Moment or Hero with that many messages and 100+ voicemails. See it atleast 3-4 times a day.
Yea lol. Evo handled it okay. I get some lag with message apps. Like 3 - 4 seconds tops and only when opening. Wonder if I OC will it fix it.. hrmm
Wonder if I OC will it fix it.. hrmm
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No it wont. Deleting your 17 thousand messages will.