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Is there any way to prevent your data connection from being lost when a secured Wifi network is within range. I don't understand why the phone gives a secured wifi network preference over your carriers network... effectively preventing any data connection until you turn off wifi.
Just one example of this annoying problem came when I was navigating to a job location and a road was closed. GPS could not reroute me because I was in a residential neighborhood picking up lots of wifi networks. All the them were secured. So... in order to reroute I had to toggle off my wifi so that my phone would go back to connecting through my carrier.
Why do phones do this? Until your device obtains an IP address from the wifi hotspot it should not bypass the carriers data connection. Is there any way around this that doesn't require constantly turning wifi on and off?
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JIW said:
Is there any way to prevent your data connection from being lost when a secured Wifi network is within range. I don't understand why the phone gives a secured wifi network preference over your carriers network... effectively preventing any data connection until you turn off wifi.
Just one example of this annoying problem came when I was navigating to a job location and a road was closed. GPS could not reroute me because I was in a residential neighborhood picking up lots of wifi networks. All the them were secured. So... in order to reroute I had to toggle off my wifi so that my phone would go back to connecting through my carrier.
Why do phones do this? Until your device obtains an IP address from the wifi hotspot it should not bypass the carriers data connection. Is there any way around this that doesn't require constantly turning wifi on and off?
Many thanks...
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Never had this problem.... My GS3 has always ignored secured and unsecured wifi networks unless I specifically request to connect to them. The only thing I can think is that its trying to connect to the same SSID that you're using at home like "netgear" or something. If that's the case, shame on you for not changing your default SSID at home.
If not, what setup are you on? Stock/rom/kernel etc.
My SSID does not match anything out there. It happens all the time. When I go to my kids favorite park my phone tries to connect to a cablevison hotspot. When I open an app like Facebook or tapatalk it just hangs. If I open a web browser I get redirected to one of those sign in pages. As soon as I turn off wifi I go back to 4G and browse as normal.
This happens on every phone I've ever owned including my wife's phone, parents phones and brothers phone. I just figured it was something everyone dealt with.... Was hoping for a work around.
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JIW said:
My SSID does not match anything out there. It happens all the time. When I go to my kids favorite park my phone tries to connect to a cablevison hotspot. When I open an app like Facebook or tapatalk it just hangs. If I open a web browser I get redirected to one of those sign in pages. As soon as I turn off wifi I go back to 4G and browse as normal.
This happens on every phone I've ever owned including my wife's phone, parents phones and brothers phone. I just figured it was something everyone dealt with.... Was hoping for a work around.
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doesn't happen on my phone.
Randomacts said:
doesn't happen on my phone.
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my telus s3 does this too very annoying having to turn off the wifi to use carries data
Thank you. Starting to think I was the only one
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I've been suffering through bad wifi connections for so long I don't know if I can stand it anymore. I have my own wifi router and 2 neighbors' all set up on my phone and I spend time in all 3 houses. My phone is pretty much NEVER connected to the right access point and I can't use internet without backing out of what I'm doing and changing connections manually. There has to be a better way.
When I get home and pull in to the garage, it connects to my neighbor's router, deezmms. When I walk in to the house, it stays connected, 1 bar, but I can't do anything until I connect to my own. If I stay in the garage, it will eventually connect to the other neighbor, sparkx, again with 1 bar and a terrible connection to the internet. After connecting to my own, if I go to either neighbors I'm still stuck on my wifi, 1 bar, no internet. And it will NEVER connect to another until I'm COMPLETELY out of range of the the first.
I tried a few apps that didn't do anything at all. I've tried different settings in the advanced wifi settings that didn't help and in some cases gave me bigger problems. I had Tasker set up to turn my wifi off when I was in the car, which got me in to the house and connected to my own wifi in at least that one circumstance but raised a bunch of other headaches (losing connection to Gopro when I start the car at races, among others).
What can I do? I'm at my wits' end here.
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I've been suffering through bad wifi connections for so long I don't know if I can stand it anymore. I have my own wifi router and 2 neighbors' all set up on my phone and I spend time in all 3 houses. My phone is pretty much NEVER connected to the right access point and I can't use internet without backing out of what I'm doing and changing connections manually. There has to be a better way.
When I get home and pull in to the garage, it connects to my neighbor's router, deezmms. When I walk in to the house, it stays connected, 1 bar, but I can't do anything until I connect to my own. If I stay in the garage, it will eventually connect to the other neighbor, sparkx, again with 1 bar and a terrible connection to the internet. After connecting to my own, if I go to either neighbors I'm still stuck on my wifi, 1 bar, no internet. And it will NEVER connect to another until I'm COMPLETELY out of range of the the first.
I tried a few apps that didn't do anything at all. I've tried different settings in the advanced wifi settings that didn't help and in some cases gave me bigger problems. I had Tasker set up to turn my wifi off when I was in the car, which got me in to the house and connected to my own wifi in at least that one circumstance but raised a bunch of other headaches (losing connection to Gopro when I start the car at races, among others).
What can I do? I'm at my wits' end here.
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You could set up Tasker to connect to different wifi networks according to your location, but i guess the GPS battery drainage would become a problem then. And the locations are probably too close for cellular triangulation to work properly.
An easy solution that might work: Set the wifi networks to the same wifi channel. The interference should ensure that they cancel each other out and don't creep into the next house etc. Also make sure the routers are physically so far away from each other as possible.
Just saw this app which might help. I don't have any experience with it though: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goramart.wifijumper&hl=da
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You could set up Tasker to connect to different wifi networks according to your location, but i guess the GPS battery drainage would become a problem then. And the locations are probably too close for cellular triangulation to work properly.
An easy solution that might work: Set the wifi networks to the same wifi channel. The interference should ensure that they cancel each other out and don't creep into the next house etc. Also make sure the routers are physically so far away from each other as possible.
Just saw this app which might help. I don't have any experience with it though: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goramart.wifijumper&hl=da
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I'll try that app.. the houses are all close enough together that GPS probably isn't going to take care of it. I might play with the channels but that sounds like it might end up causing headaches, too.
Also, I did move and upgrade my router and added some big, higher gain antennas. I really think I should be getting better range out of it than I am, but I don't know what else to try.
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I'll try that app.. the houses are all close enough together that GPS probably isn't going to take care of it. I might play with the channels but that sounds like it might end up causing headaches, too.
Also, I did move and upgrade my router and added some big, higher gain antennas. I really think I should be getting better range out of it than I am, but I don't know what else to try.
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this seems more like a problem with the placement of your wifi router? i would check what your signals look like connected to your router througout the house. i would totally remove your neighbor's connections from your saved list so theres really no chance of connecting to their network. realistically your in house wifi should be the strongest signal lols..?
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this seems more like a problem with the placement of your wifi router? i would check what your signals look like connected to your router througout the house. i would totally remove your neighbor's connections from your saved list so theres really no chance of connecting to their network. realistically your in house wifi should be the strongest signal lols..?
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Our yards are pretty big and I spend a lot of time in all of them. I know my wifi is never going to reach to my neighbors fire pit. When I pull in to the garage their signal is stronger, and then I walk in to my house were obviously mine is stronger, but I'm stuck on the neighbors' unless I manually mess with it.
I have no idea how that Wifi Jumper app is supposed to work but it didn't do anything to help my situation. :\
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Our yards are pretty big and I spend a lot of time in all of them. I know my wifi is never going to reach to my neighbors fire pit. When I pull in to the garage their signal is stronger, and then I walk in to my house were obviously mine is stronger, but I'm stuck on the neighbors' unless I manually mess with it.
I have no idea how that Wifi Jumper app is supposed to work but it didn't do anything to help my situation. :\
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I had same problem but I reset the phone and when it promoted me about Wi-Fi optimization upon setup again I unchecked the box... I couldn't find this in the settings though. The only way was to reset
Here is a good one.....I am rooted on i317 using DS V2......At home I push the hotspot icon and my tablet hooks right up. The weird: At work same two machines, the wifi connection between the two disconnects every second, it's like blinking wifi...."obtaining IP, connected, disconnected.....Obtaining IP, connected, disconnected.....It will do this for 15 minutes then just gives up.....no internet access. (I have also tried FOXfi and PDAnet with the same result......
Some background: At my work, we use Meraki wifi APs. They have been programmed to block Android operating systems because our company has a contract with Apple to use Ipads. The Meraki APs are running G, N, and AC bands with six different access logons. Three are for network admins, two are for employees, and one is for guests......Could the Meraki APs be disrupting the connection between my tablet and my phone? I get good 4gLTE service 4 bars, 12 mbps download speeds.
Any ideas? Anyone? I couldn't find any articles about disrupting other hotspots.....I Googled every question about the Merakis, I don't know their model# because they are installed way up in the ceiling.....every 75feet or so....
Turn off WiFi scanning and select connect to saved networks only.
Thanks i will give it a shot tomorrow.....I hope it's that simple.
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Turn off WiFi scanning and select connect to saved networks only.
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dmxinc said:
Thanks i will give it a shot tomorrow...should I turn scanning off on both, or just the tablet? If it's the tablet, I don't think there is a setting to only connect to saved points.....I hope it's that simple.
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I would like to invite everyone to try if they have the same problem
For me, I have done a lot of testing, and I have found that, with any open WiFi hotspot (ones doesn't require wifi password to connect, with captive login or not), even G4 saved the network, half times it won't autoconnect.
When you go into wifi setting, the network is there, and there is an message below the nextwork saying:
"internet is unavailable, cannot autoconnect"
But if you tab it manually, it will connect and fine. I tested it with multiple hotspots and all have the same problem. I tried all different ways like delete the networks and re-add, nothing works.
Any of you have same problem please confirm below and let us know if you have found a solution, this is yet another ridiculous problem LG4 has and not fixing it, who are they to decide internet is available or not on a wifi hotspot?
my G4 is 812 10c
Any one encounter the same problem?
Yes I have this issue also. Don't know what would be causing the problem
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Thanks for confirming,
Very annoying issue and I am surprised it hasn't be raised and discussed in here.
For me it is way worse than occasional touch issue
Any solutions will be appreciated
chubbrock said:
Yes I have this issue also. Don't know what would be causing the problem
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I can confirm I have the same issue with mine. Very annoying.
Thanks for confirming, again showing it's not an isolated instance.
Is this issue only for Hotspots? Or any Wifi device? I ask, because I don't see a problem with my WiFi router at home.
raravi said:
Is this issue only for Hotspots? Or any Wifi device? I ask, because I don't see a problem with my WiFi router at home.
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For me it is only for open Wi-FI (no password required to connect), the tend to be public hotspots.
offall said:
For me, I have done a lot of testing, and I have found that, with any open WiFi hotspot, (with captive login or not), even G4 saved the network, half times it won't autoconnect.
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That underlined bit is interesting.
so it seems this only occurs with open networks ie ones that don't require a userid/pass.
otherwise you have no problems connecting when there required login is required and is saved already.
eg. your home wifi ?
some more reading led me to this post.
My G4 doesn't have any problem with the open network at my work. It connects automatically as soon as I drive in the parking lot, if I leave and come back, as soon as I'm in range it re-connects just fine.
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Have we considered this might be done on purpose as a safety thing?
You shouldn't want your phone/laptop connecting to any OPEN network automatically that you haven't vetted. This is how scammers skim passwords, etc., by offering 'free' wifi hotspots in busy areas.
waylo said:
Have we considered this might be done on purpose as a safety thing?
You shouldn't want your phone/laptop connecting to any OPEN network automatically that you haven't vetted. This is how scammers skim passwords, etc., by offering 'free' wifi hotspots in busy areas.
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Not quite, it happens on open networks that I have connected to before i.e. saved and as you put it vetted.
Connecting to saved networks that are passkey protected works fine.
Yes that's right, for me the network that requires password has no problem to auto connect
And the post you linked for refresh DHCP, I tested and it doesn't solve the problem
One Twelve said:
That underlined bit is interesting.
so it seems this only occurs with open networks ie ones that don't require a userid/pass.
otherwise you have no problems connecting when there required login is required and is saved already.
eg. your home wifi ?
some more reading led me to this post.
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Then there is no problem here is there ?
I also have this problem.
To clarify, my situation is for open wifi where the provider redirects you to a webpage where you click "ok" or "accept" to proceed.
The first time I connect, it's fine. But, when my phone tries to auto-connect the next day, it gives the error described. So, I have to manually open up wifi connections, view the list, select the wifi name, and connect.
So it works fine after some manual intervention, but there is a bug I think in how the G4 handles these types of open wifi connections, once they are saved in the phone's history and you try to connect again later. So there is a problem here, but it's somewhat nuanced and easy to miss.
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I also have this problem.
To clarify, my situation is for open wifi where the provider redirects you to a webpage where you click "ok" or "accept" to proceed.
The first time I connect, it's fine. But, when my phone tries to auto-connect the next day, it gives the error described. So, I have to manually open up wifi connections, view the list, select the wifi name, and connect.
So it works fine after some manual intervention, but there is a bug I think in how the G4 handles these types of open wifi connections, once they are saved in the phone's history and you try to connect again later. So there is a problem here, but it's somewhat nuanced and easy to miss.
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Your description sums up the situation well.
Doing what you want could create a problem of another sort. read this.
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/64380/stop-wifi-connecting-to-open-networks
No this is not the same.
i only want G4 to autoconnect to network I saved before, meaning the one i have used before and want to use it again.
The problem you are referring to is having android auto connect to random networks, which of course should not happen.
Also G4 currently does not connect to open wifi that doesnt require login either. Even it clear have good internet connection, it wont reconnect, which is clearly a bug
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Doing what you want could create a problem of another sort. read this.
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/64380/stop-wifi-connecting-to-open-networks
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No this is not the same.
i only want G4 to autoconnect to network I saved before, meaning the one i have used before and want to use it again.
The problem you are referring to is having android auto connect to random networks, which of course should not happen.
Also G4 currently does not connect to open wifi that doesnt require login either. Even it clear have good internet connection, it wont reconnect, which is clearly a bug
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see this is where it gets tricky, that post was referring to networks set up by a telco around the city. the ssid is the same its not a random network. This is exactly what you want.
you accepted it when you were in location a, now you are at location b and want to connect. so it should connect automatically ie no different than if you were to return back to location a.
You said home wifi works, so leaving wifi on, walk out of range and then come back in range and it connects automatically. And you expect the same behaviour with an open wifi that you accepted prior.
Way i understood it is that guy is complaining about what you want with open wifi
Thanks for clarifying.
I went back to re-read the post you pointed out. OP of the thread wants to block all the open wifi hotspots with paywall. It is not because he/she used one paywall network work in location A and doesn't want to use it again in location B. OP never used the paywall network (because it charges) and doesn't want to ever connect to it again, in that case, delete it from the saved network list should solve the problem.
In fact, Op also wants to use non-paywall open wifi, which is same as what I want here with G4. We both have the same need, which is auto re-connect to known, used, and trusted network. Here is exactly G4 cannot do and clearly having a problem. As I said before, even for network that is open, no paywall, and no log in required, G4 simply cannot auto connect, and claim "internet is unavailable", which is false and need to be fixed. Furthermore, even if there is a captive login, G4 should not refuse to auto connect before informing user so. While LG clearly has no problem sending tons of notification for their bloated LG smart notices, right now there is no single notice about WiFi auto connect failure, you will only discover the problem after you open WiFI set up page.
I copied OP's own words from the other thread FYI
"here are random open wifi networks everywhere that allow my Android to connect to their network but won't give internet access because there is a paywall"
"There are a wide variety of providers like BTOpenZone. I'd like to block them all, adding exceptions if I ever find a non-paywall connection"
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see this is where it gets tricky, that post was referring to networks set up by a telco around the city. the ssid is the same its not a random network. This is exactly what you want.
you accepted it when you were in location a, now you are at location b and want to connect. so it should connect automatically ie no different than if you were to return back to location a.
You said home wifi works, so leaving wifi on, walk out of range and then come back in range and it connects automatically. And you expect the same behaviour with an open wifi that you accepted prior.
Way i understood it is that guy is complaining about what you want with open wifi
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I've read (and THINK I understand) what smart switch is supposed to do (going all the way back to the Note4.
And it seems like the complete opposite of what wifi calling does.
Anyone care to explain the difference or real reasons one is used over the other?
Also on a related note, in the developer options category there is an option to turn on "Aggressive Wi-Fi cell h.."
With the explanation "switch from wifi to mobile networks more quickly when wifi signal is weak"
Kind of self explanatory and my question would be real work use. If you have unlimited data, any reason you would NOT want to check this?
Unless this just sounds great, but doesn't work well......
Thoughts?
vtcats said:
I've read (and THINK I understand) what smart switch is supposed to do (going all the way back to the Note4.
And it seems like the complete opposite of what wifi calling does.
Anyone care to explain the difference or real reasons one is used over the other?
Also on a related note, in the developer options category there is an option to turn on "Aggressive Wi-Fi cell h.."
With the explanation "switch from wifi to mobile networks more quickly when wifi signal is weak"
Kind of self explanatory and my question would be real work use. If you have unlimited data, any reason you would NOT want to check this?
Unless this just sounds great, but doesn't work well......
Thoughts?
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Smart switch imports the data from your old phone when you switch to a Samsung phone; WiFi calling routes voice traffic over WiFi when available.
Sorry, I meant to say Smart NETWORK Switch. It says your phone will be connected to a mobile network if Wifi becomes unstable.
And Wi-fi calling kinda of says the exact opposite. If mobile becomes unstable, it will switch to Wifi......
Anyone?
Many times.. even when the wifi signal is weak, as long as wifi is turned on, the phone will remain connected to it. This especially happens when you are just pulling out of your house and you are trying to get to google maps for directions or something.. but because the phone is still connected to your home wifi, it'll remain so and since the connection is weak, you won't be able to browse or anything and google maps may say "no network connection".
I believe what Smart Network Switch does, is that in such cases, it'll immediately switch to mobile data.
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Many times.. even when the wifi signal is weak, as long as wifi is turned on, the phone will remain connected to it. This especially happens when you are just pulling out of your house and you are trying to get to google maps for directions or something.. but because the phone is still connected to your home wifi, it'll remain so and since the connection is weak, you won't be able to browse or anything and google maps may say "no network connection".
I believe what Smart Network Switch does, is that in such cases, it'll immediately switch to mobile data.
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This happens to me every morning in my driveway trying to route Waze. I get a weak wifi signal that the phone hangs onto and I get a no network error from Waze.