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Hi all,
I ask this question cuz I counldn't find enough information about How to install Linux on my PPC.
My ppc is: I-teq X-bond like as Gigabyte gsmart i. with 64MB ROM.
Is there any linux ROM distribution for my ppc? or general linux ROM distribution for PPCs?
Thanks in advance.
Pedram
The reason you could not find information is because there isn't much of it to be found.
Unfortunately, Linux for PPC is in its infancy. The main problem is the drivers - they all need to be reverse engineered and there is no help from the OEMs as they designed this things to only work with MS crap and seem to have no interest in releasing drivers or specifications.
Official reason: Because you can not mess with the OS the device is more stable and secure.
Real reason: If you need to by new phone to get new OS we make more $$$ and so does MS.
As far as I heard there is a half decent version for some iPaq model, and there is version for some HTC devices (check WiKi) but all it does is boot up: no drivers even for touch screen, no graphical interface, no apps.
Thnx levelnum.
I think if linux developers I mean open source world focus on handheld devices they can publish good distribution as desktop or laptop PCs. Today they are very powerful in reverse engineering, .NET Framework in Linux named MONO is one of these reverse engineering issues.
I believe that Linux is much more customizable that WM, especially for XDA-developers that make interesting works on WM. And also it doesn't have copyright restriction as WM has. So may be it makes many progress in world of handheld devices.
Oddly enough I was looking for Linux on Smartphone info yesterday as I've got an Alpine I'd like to be able to do something interesting with.
Demand for something like this is going to be a bit odd - by definition anyone who finds this site, let alone opens an account and posts, is going to be interested in pushing the boundaries of their device but the vast majority of WM device users are going to be in the "don't care how it works as long as it does" group.
Also, I reckon a lot of Linux dev types aren't even going to look at the device, it will never occur to them to buy one because it's sold as a Windows Mobile device, and hence isn't going to be near their installation of the hacker mentality. Without a critical mass of people who can develop in/with Linux it's always going to be a struggle.
problem is the program base
all current wm programs unless they are .net
would not run under linux on our pda's
new ones would be required to be written
or ported or....
The Nokia Internet Tablet runs on a version of Linux with a pretty robust set of applications, and this device uses an ARM processor which should be pretty friendly with regard to 'porting'.
But you'd still be stuck without a telephone application.
You can find some information here:
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
http://www.handhelds.org/
Oddly enough I was looking for Linux on Smartphone info yesterday as I've got an Alpine I'd like to be able to do something interesting with.
Demand for something like this is going to be a bit odd - by definition anyone who finds this site, let alone opens an account and posts, is going to be interested in pushing the boundaries of their device but the vast majority of WM device users are going to be in the "don't care how it works as long as it does" group.
Also, I reckon a lot of Linux dev types aren't even going to look at the device, it will never occur to them to buy one because it's sold as a Windows Mobile device, and hence isn't going to be near their installation of the hacker mentality. Without a critical mass of people who can develop in/with Linux it's always going to be a struggle.
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May be! as you said it is Windows mobile device and linux lovers aren't going around of it. but I think they are so curious than it.
problem is the program base
all current wm programs unless they are .net
would not run under linux on our pda's
new ones would be required to be written
or ported or....
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I do think so. since I in previous post I mentioned that .NET framework available in linux. so many of windows program can run on it.
You can find some information here:
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
http://www.handhelds.org/
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Hart (Reverse engineering tool for wm hardware) was interesting tool.
yeah but due to limitations and slowness only the minority of applications on windows mobile are made in .net :S
i want this one
http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html
Regards,
Jason
Rudegar said:
problem is the program base
all current wm programs unless they are .net
would not run under linux on our pda's
new ones would be required to be written
or ported or....
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This is not a real problem. If you want to use a particular program from WM that is a problem but why you would do that? There is very large program base for desktop Linux (many of them also exist for desktop Windows) which could be very easily ported to a handheld platform with ARM processor. If you ever looked up how many qualitative programs do exist for Japanese Linux handhelds...
Wexx said:
This is not a real problem. If you want to use a particular program from WM that is a problem but why you would do that? There is very large program base for desktop Linux (many of them also exist for desktop Windows) which could be very easily ported to a handheld platform with ARM processor. If you ever looked up how many qualitative programs do exist for Japanese Linux handhelds...
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Thats one of the things that is grate about open source software - you don't even have to depend on the original developer to find the time / will to port it. Anyone with the programing knowledge can.
Hi to everytody,
This is the firs time I write in this forum, but there is a long time ago that i read all your interesting and wise posts
I have recently changed my pda for a nokia n770, and I would like to know if is possible to make this device work under windows mobile, 'cos linux does not like me too much.
Is there any available rom for this device?
If so, how can I install it?
Many thanks in advance, and my congratulations for you all.
Regards.
CArlos
Absolutlely impossible
No drivers, no software - nothing.
Really?
But if I have seen in You Tube a video where this machine is running under windows xp....
And is there no way to load in any other rom from another pda?
many thanks and I apologize if I have said any nonsense... (my aknowledgements are very limited in this matter)
regards.
dunno about xp - but anyway it is much more possible than n770 running Windows Mobile
it was prob a nokia running remote desktop software
Don't believe everything you see on uTube.
As Redugar suggested it could have been remote terminal software, or a skin that made the device resemble XP or a fake video all together.
According to PC Magazine this device has an OMAP processor (official Nokia site does not provide that detail) so in theory it is similar to our phones.
But if you have truly read this site before you would know that this was asked and discussed many times: Window Mobile can not be installed on a device that was not designed for it.
There must be at least one original version of WM specifically made by the manufacturer for that device.
Only from that it might be possible to make upgrades but not create a version from scratch.
ok,
I read some time ago something regarding the prebootloader system..., that this kind of devices that runs under linux does not have (or it's different)... is this certain?
Anyway, I thought that somebody in this forum might be developed a tool to load this room, but in any case, I repeat that I'm just learning about this devices... in fact is my first one mobile pc running linux...
Many thanks.
i dont belive that any nokia phone run linux at all their use their own os called symbian
Rudegar said:
i dont belive that any nokia phone run linux at all their use their own os called symbian
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Believe it That's their new safety line off Symbian without stepping into WM.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5409534614.html
While they may have the most say in Symbian, but I won't say it is 'their own OS'
Anyway, it is a pity that all these phone companies with Linux OS doesn't seems to be doing much to join forces in any other way. Motorola has some good histroy with their Linux OS.. and yet this Nokia is doing things all their own way.. which well, I'm not sure how that will divide the public developers. Anyway, I had a look at this N770.. it is not that impressive.
"but I won't say it is 'their own OS' "
yeah it started up as a group of mobil companys but dident
everybody else leave the group ?
Rudegar said:
"but I won't say it is 'their own OS' "
yeah it started up as a group of mobil companys but dident
everybody else leave the group ?
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Hmmm.. now you mentioned.. it seems quite true.. now, as far I can think of, for non Nokia phones, only SonyE's P9xx series is using it, huh?
İt says;
Software:
Operating system -- Internet Tablet 2005 software edition
İt s not talkin about linux, symbian possible by the way Rom upgrade impossible on this device because it cant be connect on active syn, and I dont think so that it has bootloader menu to flash WM6..
Nokia n770 (and n800) runs Maemo. For more info check out: http://maemo.org/.
The nokia n770/800 isnt a pda but an internet tablet.
Is it possible to run any of these systems on our phone?
especialy WP7 / WM 6.5
in theory: probably yes
but: neither is open source, thus it'll be rather difficult to port them to any device that they aren't ment for, plus, you'd need a license to run these operating systems on your phone and you probably won't get one
alltogether: no, I am not aware of it being possible to run any of these operating systems on an Desire HD
llama-power said:
in theory: probably yes
but: neither is open source, thus it'll be rather difficult to port them to any device that they aren't ment for, plus, you'd need a license to run these operating systems on your phone and you probably won't get one
alltogether: no, I am not aware of it being possible to run any of these operating systems on an Desire HD
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agreed with you.
but you can flash linux ubuntu on dhd as it's free.
and honeycomb too (but still in devolepment) ported in dhd.
It is impossible so far I think.
Theirs a Windows Phone 7 launcher in the android market, You can check that out if you like it. Havent tried it myself yet.
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
Since ver 7, the os is no longer called windows mobile; its now called windows phone. but to answer your question, no you can't run desktop applications on windows phone (or windows mobile for that matter) and this is unlikely to change.
That said I'm sure you can find another application to achieve whatever it is that you're after on the marketplace...
:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
Well for a lot of people smartphones or tablets can replace computers, most people aren't stockbrokers!
The latest version of Windows Phone is 7.5 Mango, which is currently at RTM stage - i.e. released to OEMs pending approval for new devices and upgrades to existing devices.
The Windows Phone Marketplace can only be accessed via the phone or via the Zune desktop software. The Zune software comes highly recommended from me, it's a very, very good media management software and I can't live without the wireless sync function anymore!
You can browse the marketplace through Zune without owning a Windows Phone device.
Perhaps you could let the community know what it is exactly that you need to do and someone might be able to suggest something?
EDIT: As you're new to smartphones, from a usability perspective Windows Phone 7 would be an excellent choice for you - it is simply brilliant to use, the interface is understated and elegant and the lack of pointless graphics makes it both simple and quick. Microsoft have clearly put massive effort into making Windows Phone highly usable and have surpassed pretty much all expectations, especially with the 7.5 update, which brings in a huge amount of functionality. A lot of people try and put Windows Phone down having never used it, because it's one of those things that needs you to spend 10 minutes with it to understand - but once you've spent 9 minutes with it, everything else just seems ridiculously complicated.
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:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
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Silverlight in Windows
Hi
Silverlight apps are currently available in Windows and I think that the concept being put out there at the moment is that Windows 8 will run the same apps as Windows Mobile 8.
Nobody knows if this will become a reality or not.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
olivespin said:
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
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The best thing for you to do would be to find a mobile version of the software you are trying to run. Then get the device that runs that particular software.
The closest you'll come to running your "exact" software on a mobile device is to get a Windows based tablet or laptop. But to run your stock software on a smartphone, you will need the "mobile" version of that software, if it exists.
Also, check to see if your stock-terminal application is web-based. If it is, you may be able to access what you need with ANY smartphone through the smartphone's web browser. That means your "stock terminal" would work on Windows Phone, iPhone, Android, etc.
Hi there !
Pretty much all my problem lies in the title : is there a version of HTC Sync Manager that works on Mac computers for the One X ?
Everywhere the documentation seems to say yes ("[...] for PC and Mac", "download the .dmg file", etc.), but on the official site i can't find a link to the reffered .dmg file, neither it is on my phone, and when I ask the support where I can find the file mentionned, they answer me : "To use HTC Sync on Mac, please install Dualboot and Windows, then install HTC Sync Manager"
I managed to find a Mac version of the software somewhere on xda-developers for others version of HTC, but my phone still isn't recognized by the application.
So... anyone here managed to get that one working ? I know there exists other free (or not) applications that can do the same, but I kinda liked it on first sight on my PC. I tried SyncMate but even though my contacts were originally freshly updated it wanted to delete about 48 of my contacts and modify 20 others
Thanks in advance for your time !
Tibler
yeah , I've got exact same problem , please someone help us quickly ...
I was going to look for HTC Sync for the MAC but will hold off for now, you could install Parallels Desktop then Windows 7 which allows you to run Windows 7 within the MAC OS no need for a Dual boot then.
dawkinsmj said:
I was going to look for HTC Sync for the MAC but will hold off for now, you could install Parallels Desktop then Windows 7 which allows you to run Windows 7 within the MAC OS no need for a Dual boot then.
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I don't think I would be able to access my OSX Address Book that way either.
I used to do it quite simply with my 'old' Sony Ericsson W995 and the iSync application. Finding out it couldn't work that way with my One X still makes me sad
I'm having the exact same problem! I was an iPhone user since 2007 and always used iTunes to sync data. This is my first Android and I totally love it but its sad I can't get it to sync with my Mac. When I connected my One X to my Windows PC and set it to HTC Sync mode on the phone, the HTC Sync program begins to install but when I do it on my Mac, it says the device isn't recognised.
i have the same problem
i have the same problem but there is and app called the missing sync,, which is amazing u can transfer itunes, iphoto, contacts and call logs and much more
give it a try
What's good with HTC Sync is that it's free too. I don't think I want to pay 40$ to try an application
http://www.htc.com/www/software/htc-sync-manager/
The site says the software is coming soon. So lets hope that it actually is coming soon and will allow the playback of protected content like it states it will!!
http://www.htc.com/www/help/htc-one-x/ -- at the bottom -- Note: Download and install HTC Sync Manager, when available, from our website. Or in the meantime, download and use the latest version of HTC Sync to sync your media and data.
And I always thought HTC Sync and HTC Sync Manager were the same thing...
Thank you for that eye opening revelation. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long !
I am on the same boat too, used iphone for 4 years now decided to change to HTC. But looks like HTC is not quite Apple friendly. I have a macbook so no way i wana bootcamp window and sync from window.
HTC really need to get this Sync Manager ASAP for mac users otherwise they will lose some clients as new iphone coming soon.
Get off it already. Hanging on to your Macs with a death grip, are we?!
At least HTC just released the good stuff for Windows 8... HTC Sync v3.2.10 for Windows – All Models
Available here : http://www.htc.com/www/software/htc-sync-manager/
But they deleted all mention of a mac compatibility in the requirements/overview...
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... Hanging on to your Macs with a death grip, are we?!
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Uhm... yes. I left the world of clunky Windows operating systems running on craptastic generic machines, sloppily thrown together by shoddy manufacturers, many years ago and I have no plans of returning. Furthermore, the HTC One X will be my last HTC device until they learn how to properly support their products. Funny thing is, I said this back when I bought the 8925, only to find it had no display drivers, rendering its fancy GPU practically pointless.
These guys need to get a clue. We may not be the majority, when comparing OS platforms, but Mac users number well over 100 million and Apple is the largest manufacturer of personal computers on the planet. Samsung has Kies running on Mac, with a link neatly placed right beside the Windows version. I'll be ditching my One X in favor of a Galaxy S3. Good riddance, HTC.
It is available to download now
Check http://www.htc.com/www/software/htc-sync-manager/download/
I have problem connecting though on JellyBean Maximus 4.1 ROM.
Update: It seems to take quite some time on first time device connection.