Why is the "ati d3d video driver" that works perfectly on HTC Diamond mostly ignored by the chefs and cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that enables diamond hardware rendering and makes VR hologram works smooth and 3d games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored without any reason.
Also I added Samsung Omnia 3d SOFTWARE rendering drivers if you want to compare.(You can’t uninstall S.Omnia driver.)
Use the test`s and compare the results.
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ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER FAQ:
- Works perfectly on 2.03 rom.
- ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER makes OpenGL ES 1.1 to work on Hardware mode.
ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER enables diamond hardware rendering for 3D applications which are made on OpenGL ES.
Like S2P and the 3D hologram and lots of GLES 3d games with the 3D driver. (DOOM, DUKE NUKEM etc...)
- Uninstall procedure of the ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER - remove the cab or switch easily from one driver to other for testing via registry:
* HKLM/System/D3DM/Drivers/LocalHook ( d3dm_ati.dll or htc_d3dm.dll ) The original HTC_d3dm.dll is a software driver, which is a heavily modified Microsoft Reference driver that HTC ships with our Diamond's.
- mpeg, avi, xvid, or any video extension wont work better. This ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER mainly enables hardware rendering for 3D applications.
- No battery problems at all. I did noticed some improvements but not tested. USEd this driver since aug. without problems.
To visualy expiriense the huge 3d difference with the ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER.
->> Just copy "lights.exe" to your Diamond and run it with the default driver. Check the speed and the quality of the rotating cylinder.
->> Installl the "Driver_Ati d3d.cab" and run again "light.exe" Check the speed and the quality of the rotating cylinder. (video)
->> Do the same with the Virtual Hologram.
To test:
- Disable TF3D;
- Power (disable turn off backlight)
Restart and wait until everything is loaded properly before running the programs.
1.LiGHTS.EXE Animation
a.Original driver
Driver: Microsoft d3d - d3dmref.dll
Hardware Rasterization - F A L S E
Hardware T &L – F A L S E
Using system memory – slow
b. ATI 3D driver
Driver:
Hardware Rasterization – T R U E
Hardware T &L – T R U E
Using VIDEO memory – VERY FAST
2.Dynamix 3d benchmark results - Software mode
a.Original driver
average 58.59FPS
min 15FPS
max 71FPS
b. ( Samsung Omnia )
average 65.66FPS
min 21FPS
max 71FPS
3.VIrtiual hologram
a.Original driver – AVG 16FPS
b.ATI 3D VIDEO DRIVER – AVG 51FPS
Lots of improvements with all 3d games.
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Credit goes to http://www.htcclassaction.org/ for getting 3D drivers ported and figuring out how to enable and accelerate Ati D3D.
K
Well some cookers don't add it so that people can choose... some uses ati d3d and some other use others as omnia drivers which i personally prefer... well it just done so that people can chose.. you can find this driver all the places on this forum btw..
you know the MSM7200 doesn't have *any* ATI technology inside it right? if there's any performance improvement, it must be imagined, or it's optimising software processing.
Well they're licensing ATI's imageon chip so in someway there is ATI technology inside
There's been a whole slew of developments over the past few days from different directions, in terms of MSM graphics. There has to be a chip of some sort or else OpenGLES wouldn't be supported, I think. And as Wishmaster put it, QC is licensing that name.
KraFT_mk said:
Why is the "ati 3d video driver" for HTC Diamond not included in the standard htc rom and also its mostly ignored by the cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that makes VR hologram works smooth and some games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored.
Why is that and is this the only 3d version?
K
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0.15 fps before and 30fps after in hologram.
gotta say, there is something to this.
hologram doesn't have any consistency in measuring fps, imo it's not very good app at the moment for that purpose, I would like to see better fps in some other programs after using this driver pack, anyone?
also, I haven't found any improvement in video playback which is more important I guess, at least for me.
hmm Its better to install the driver is it smoother like an iphone or so? wich driver is the best forwathcing movies
Olipro said:
you know the MSM7200 doesn't have *any* ATI technology inside it right? if there's any performance improvement, it must be imagined, or it's optimising software processing.
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the Diamond uses the MSM 7201A and the ATI Imageon thingy.
there IS ATI technology in this phone. maybe you have it confused with another phone?
KraFT_mk said:
Why is the "ati 3d video driver" for HTC Diamond not included in the standard htc rom and also its mostly ignored by the cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that makes VR hologram works smooth and some games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored.
Why is that and is this the only 3d version?
K
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the reason why they didn't include the driver is because it drain the battery a little bit faster when watching video , recording video , opening 3d program or games and so on .
So let me get this straight, it offers improvements to the phone but it's downside is that it drains the battery more. Do we know how much / fast ?
No, it shouldn't drain the battery at all. In fact, it is more efficient use of it.
There could be different reasons why chef don't use it. I saw one say that it's not official...or something of the sort.
Right, in that case, anyone got a link to whatever version of the driver is the latest one please ?
Many thanks,
^ The Ati d3d...cab in the first post should work fine.
I've tried the Omnia drivers with VSBenchmark2007, and there's no real difference. In fact, ATI is still a tad bit better.
First post update:
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Also I added Samsung Omnia 3d SOFTWARE rendering drivers if you want to compare.(You can’t uninstall them!)
Use the test and lets compare the results.
Driver_Ati d3d.cab (33.7 KB, 0 views)
Driver_SJ SamsungOmnia D3D.cab (109.0 KB, 0 views)
Test_dynamix3dbench.PPC2003_ARM.CAB (152.3 KB, 0 views)
Test_Lights and Text3D.zip (8.8 KB, 0 views)
Here my Result:
I use ATI d3d driver with original 2.03 GER Rom.
Result form Dynamix 3D Benchmark:
Average FPS: 67,52
MIN FPS: 21
MAX FPS: 73
Diamond Hologram:
FPS: 25
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Without the Driver:
Result form Dynamix 3D Benchmark:
Average FPS: 65,67
MIN FPS: 21
MAX FPS: 71
Diamond Hologram:
FPS: 0,15
igo8 and 3d drivers
hi all,
i noticed that the 3d interface of igo8 doesn't run smoothly on the diamond. Does anyone know if the ATI drivers make this app run more smoothly?
Any idea how to implement the Ati Driver cab in a stock ROM.
Wich files i must change i the kitchen.
Sorry but i don´t found any informations in this forum
I'll try to explain this as good as i possibly can.
The Ati driver is the ONLY driver that enables hardware 3D rendering. No Hardware 2D rendering. So you'll ONLY see improvements in 3D applications THAT USE OPENGL_ES_CM. (so NO improvements to TomTom, Igo, whatever nav app you use UNLESS it uses openGL)
The Omnia driver is a software 3D render driver. It doesn't do anything with the graphics chip hardware-wise.
Now about benchmarking tools:
If you want to test 3D Hardware, you should look for benchmarking tools that use OpenGL_ES. If you're not interested in that, you can use any benchmarking tool you want.
The reason why most cooks don't use the ati driver is that it's not the most stable driver to use in a ROM that's supposed to used daily. Imagine adding a supercharger to your Fiat Panda and risk blowing up your engine at every stop-n-go...
NeoS2007 said:
So you'll ONLY see improvements in 3D applications THAT USE OPENGL_ES_CM. (so NO improvements to TomTom, Igo, whatever nav app you use UNLESS it uses openGL)
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So Navigon 7 should improve? Theres a libGLES_CM_NoE.dll and libEGL.dll in the directory...
Does anybody know if there is a flashable zip that fixes the camcorder for the wildfire s.
thugnastie said:
Does anybody know if there is a flashable zip that fixes the camcorder for the wildfire s.
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Camcorder works fine but it lags because of OMX drivers and ****. It can't be fixed until and unless qualcom showers us with support or some developer devotes hell lot of time to get them working.
So NO. You may try LG Camera or MIUI camera for recording videos and MXplayer for running them. S/W mode preffered.
qualcomm drivers
but qualcomm has already published the drivers for adreno 2XX, our gpu is adreno 200, then the programmers have the drivers to implement it on the souce code and get working the camera and better results on games, why modpunks dont say anything?
P.D: sorry for my bad english
ManuelVs said:
but qualcomm has already published the drivers for adreno 2XX, our gpu is adreno 200, then the programmers have the drivers to implement it on the souce code and get working the camera and better results on games, why modpunks dont say anything?
P.D: sorry for my bad english
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They are adreno drivers we need omx drivers...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using xda app-developers app
I took a look around. If I'm not wrong, there isn't any ROM ICS or JB or still newer than GB that have HQ video working.
Just one or two months ago I was using a Legend. There the problem was very difficult : ARMv6 was no more supported so it looked quite impossible to have HQ video working.
And now it has.
Zeubea, the developer of Legend's Unofficial CM9 ( a SO DAMN GREAT ROM ) managed to have HQ video playback working.
I don't know too much of processors, but ARMv6 indicates the instruction set, right? Desire is ARMv7, isn't it? I heard that the problem was just the version of instuction set while I had a Legend : ARMv7 had everything and ARMv6 did not. I suppose I was wrong, because Desire still don't have. I searched a little bit and I found something that indicated the problem was the GPU for hardware decoding. Desire's GPU is the same of Legend's. So, if I'm right, the problem existed.
I'm opening this thread mainly to ask for clarifications about all this : knowing what you're talking about is very important.
And then I'm sharing this [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33374614]. I don't know if it can anyhow help, because, as said before, I don't have very clear ideas about all this. But if it can, I hope this will help us all.
Thanks in advance for patience and explanations.
Hello everyone...
any one can tell me what are adreno dirvers ?
how it can improve my xperia arc (or any other 2011 xperia)?
and every thing about it (every thing you know ) please
Arc GPU is Adreno 205 and "adreno drivers" are just updated drivers taken from newer Xperia devices with the same GPU. It's the only "tweak" that really works and gives visible performance improvements without side effects but keep in mind that it's only compatible with stock and stock based ICS ROMs.
pypcier said:
Arc GPU is Adreno 205 and "adreno drivers" are just updated drivers taken from newer Xperia devices with the same GPU. It's the only "tweak" that really works and gives visible performance improvements without side effects but keep in mind that it's only compatible with stock and stock based ICS ROMs.
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thank you for you information
i dont know about these things. but they hardly improve the graphics performance on my Arc ... about a 5fps rise in Nenamark, i dont know if thats alot, but does seem abit too minimal ....
I have noticed recently that some custom ROMs on Zuk Z2 support the vulkan API. (Dev options->GPU rendering->opengl/open gl (skia)/vulkan)
I have seen at least two custom ROMs' screen shots on which some members had vulkan as an option but i never had it.
So questions:
Does vulkan API really help in 3d gaming if selected?
How could I enable it as an option on a ROM which supports it but i don't have it?
sotosgolf said:
So questions:
Does vulkan API really help in 3d gaming if selected?
How could I enable it as an option on a ROM which supports it but i don't have it?
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Only the games which actually run on vulkan engine. Currently, the most famous is Vainglory which is e-sports moba for touch. and there are like 6-7 android games which run on vulkan. And also, Adreno 530 already supports Vulkan API, it should come enabled by default for supported apps.
dark_prince said:
Only the games which actually run on vulkan engine. Currently, the most famous is Vainglory which is e-sports moba for touch. and there are like 6-7 android games which run on vulkan. And also, Adreno 530 already supports Vulkan API, it should come enabled by default for supported apps.
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do we still need a separate vulkan build for vulkan on VG? or it has been merged to the main game?
pipyakas said:
do we still need a separate vulkan build for vulkan on VG? or it has been merged to the main game?
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The API is already in-built and Adreno 530 fully supports it. All you need is a game which works on vulkan api.
Take a look at the game which run on vulkan API: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_Vulkan_support
dark_prince said:
The API is already in-built and Adreno 530 fully supports it. All you need is a game which works on vulkan api.
Take a look at the game which run on vulkan API: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_Vulkan_support
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yes, but in the past if you want to play vainglory with vulkan, you need a separate build for samsung s7 devices because the game from play store doesnt have vulkan
all Im asking is if they merged those 2 or it's still a separate beta
edit: nvm, I found out that they stopped vulkan beta on vainglory a while ago