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Hi,
Lately i'm questioning myself why Motorola defy doesn't has hardware acceleration graphics for the Android Interface like Sony Ericcson Experia Arc does.
Why ? Defy has a powerful GPU that can Improve sightly the performance in the whole device and reduce CPU usage and also increase battery power. Can someone explain me why it isn't activated already ? Do you think that the next version AKA Ice Sandwich will come on our devices ? I hear that the next Android version will has GPU accelerated graphics, Is it right ?
Thanks !
As far as i know xperia arc has a better gpu, hence it is faster.
What do you mean by hardware graphic acceleration for 'android interface'? Do you mean the launcher?
The last update for defy was froyo and it is very unlikey to get an official update to ice cream sandwich
Hardware accelerated 2D graphics
You can now enable the OpenGL renderer for your application by setting android:hardwareAccelerated="true" in your manifest element's <application> element or for individual <activity> elements.
This flag helps applications by making them draw faster. This results in smoother animations, smoother scrolling, and overall better performance and response to user interaction.
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ht tp://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0.html
Seems like we will have to put our hopes in 3rd party developers to bring this to the Defy
enorlin said:
ht tp://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0.html
Seems like we will have to put our hopes in 3rd party developers to bring this to the Defy
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This is only for 3.X devices, which Google didn't release its source code to the community. Also this version is not optimized for mobile phones so I guess we have to cross the fingers and see what the community can do to port Ice Sandwitch to our device when it will be released.
The thing is, why some 2.3.X devices have 2D Accelerated Graphics and Defy don't ? It's a marketing strategy or something ? Cause' it hasn't any sense.
Install launcher pro and opera then... they both use GPU to accelerate their work. Launcher pro is really smooth...
Hi, first at all i want to say that i tested nearly every rom & kernel combinations and still i'm not satisfied with the performance. Overall device is performing better (i'm running @1,4GHz - Stock Plus & DoomKernels 15-20) and in 3D heavy games framerate is higher for sure, but there's a lot of stuttering and sometimes games are unplayable (for example Backstab and Asphalt 6 with annoying one sec stuttering). On stock kernel game (Backstab) is running without any performance issues (only few dropped frames when there's a high draw distance) and the device itself is running "only" at 1GHz. Now something about DoomKernel - interface is not running smoothly (with simple 3D live wallpaper but 2d is ok) and i can give you another gaming example with MC3 - main menu is running at ~20 fps (and game itself is also stuttering) and on stock kernel/stock plus it's much smoother. So there is any fix for my problem or it's something wrong with my arc or what . Stock kernel by Sony > custom kernels? Something is wrong here... Thanks in advance and pardon about my english .
try playing on performance governor
I played with governors with no result ;(
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okay, now i'm gonna "stress test" every single governor available in kernel ; d
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I've added a video :<
youtu.be/nCK0dvRbTHI
Have you tried Stockplus Kernel? It's based on DoomKernel but has a lot of changes and tweaks. Some people report better results with it when compared to DoomKernel.
Check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432198
Hi folks, after searching a little bit about the available ROMs and trying out the emulators (N64oid and FPSE), I decided to create this topic. But this time instead of I think/in my opinions, let's post about our gaming experience with different ROMs. And much better, let's post our in-game FPS (if show FPS option is available)! Here's my results:
Xperia NXT Light Edition 2.3.7 - Doomkernel v14
N64oid - Perfect Dark, Goldeneye 007 (45-50 FPS in outdoors and indoors, occasional frame drops in certain areas, show FPS option is not available, so these are may not be the exact values) (OC'd to 1.9 GHz)
FPSE- Tekken 3 - WITH OpenGL plug-in (39-45 FPS) (OC'd to 1.9 GHz)
Almost all of the fastest ICS, JB ROMs (Turbo UI, ICS++, IceCream pureness, Stock FWs, Express ROM, Xperia NXT2JB, XDark ICS etc.)
N64oid- Same games (30-35 FPS in outdoors and indoors, occasional frame drops in certain areas, again, show FPS option is not available, so these are may not be the exact values) (OC'd to 1.9 GHz)
FPSE- Tekken 3 - WITH OpenGL plug-in (27-32 FPS) (OC'd to 1.9 GHz)
That's all. Please follow the criterias I mentioned and post your overall experience about your Play's gaming performance!
PLEASE STATE YOUR ROM AND KERNEL
I was using that setting with stock. Now I'm using:
FXP CM9 rom
Lupus CM9 kernel
368/1200Mhz
governor: smoothass, scheduler: bfq
Its not as fast as stock, but faster than JB, so its the best compromise if you want features that GB lacks, and web performance is much better than GB.
It can handle almost all N64 games I guess, except slow down for few demanding ones. It can handle PSX games to at regular speed with software mode 50-60fps, but can't fast forward for most of them without feeling sluggish. Also the emulators are compatible with the touchpads.
Bottom line is if one wants best gaming performance with this device they'll have to stick with stock based roms.
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Ics extreme rom beta
Based in cm9 but very debloated and with performance tweaks I don't use emulators but vice city runs flawless on medium graphic settings
Mc4 runs pretty well too
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Thanks for the info guys. Some say that updated Adreno drivers with the ICS/JB ROMs dramatically increase the gaming performance. I tried with JB Adreno Libs v3, ROMs with pre-installed Adreno drivers (ie TurboUI), but so far I've got the highest results with NXT Light. I haven't tried with high-end games like TKDR, NOVA 3, however. Now trying Extreme ROM. Will post the results.
El Diablo said:
Thanks for the info guys. Some say that updated Adreno drivers with the ICS/JB ROMs dramatically increase the gaming performance. I tried with JB Adreno Libs v3, ROMs with pre-installed Adreno drivers (ie TurboUI), but so far I've got the highest results with NXT Light. I haven't tried with high-end games like TKDR, NOVA 3, however. Now trying Extreme ROM. Will post the results.
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I use lupus 480 kernel btw
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Just tried ExtremeROM beta2a. Looks like our current champion is Xperia NXT Light, because the rest are identical in terms of gaming performance.
If only we could use the Adreno drivers on Xperia NXT Light without problems...
If that happens somehow, all hail the Ultimate Gaming ROM for Xperia Play.
SlimBean ported by cj360 is now my favorite rom for this device. I haven't managed to get it working right with this phone till the recent 2/2/2013 release. I'm getting better overall OS performance than both FXP CM9/CM10. On the graphic performance, its not as fast as stock sometimes, but its faster than FXP CM9. Also unlike CM and FXP roms, the dev remapped the Play buttons correctly to work with Market games so you don't have to manually do it. There are a few optimization one have to do to get the emulators working and running fast on JB though.
A small guide on how I set it up incase anyone else interested. Download:
SlimBean port for Xperia Play
Lupus JB multiboot kernel (you don't need the wifi module)
Gapps version 4.1 (do not use version 4.2)
Flash them using TWRP recovery that come with the Lupus kernel.
Change DPI: Change the DPI from 182 to 240. This ensure Google PlayStore will work correctly.
Turn on MTP mode: I found that with this rom and/or the Lupus JB kernel the USB mass storage driver seems to be messed up. When correcting to the computer via USB MSC mode, files get corrupted after transferred and I had to take out the microSD and connect to the PC to do a diskcheck. It also have issues with transferring files between the phone and microSD.
To fix this issue, go into Settings -> Storage -> press 'MENU' button -> select 'USB computer connection' -> select MTP mode.
Getting Robert Broglia emulators to work correctly: Two things:
-First, go to Settings -> Developers options -> Enable 'Force GPU rendering'. This really make a difference in performance. (While you're there, also disable the system animation.)
-Then in his emulators, go to Options -> Video -> turn off 'Fast CPU->GPU Copy'. Otherwise you will see a blank screen when you load the roms.
-Also use the Snes9x emulator from his website, don't use the Snes9x Ex+ from the Playstore, it perform poorer.
PSX: FPSE have the best performance. Leave it on software mode and each time you start the game, go to Setting -> System -> Enable 'Boost mode'.
eksasol said:
SlimBean ported by cj360 is now my favorite rom for this device. I haven't managed to get it working right with this phone till the recent 2/2/2013 release. I'm getting better overall OS performance than both FXP CM9/CM10. On the graphic performance, its not as fast as stock sometimes, but its faster than FXP CM9. Also unlike CM and FXP roms, the dev remapped the Play buttons correctly to work with Market games so you don't have to manually do it. There are a few optimization one have to do to get the emulators working and running fast on JB though.
A small guide on how I set it up incase anyone else interested. Download:
SlimBean port for Xperia Play
Lupus JB multiboot kernel (you don't need the wifi module)
Gapps version 4.1 (do not use version 4.2)
Flash them using TWRP recovery that come with the Lupus kernel.
Change DPI: Change the DPI from 182 to 240. This ensure Google PlayStore will work correctly.
Turn on MTP mode: I found that with this rom and/or the Lupus JB kernel the USB mass storage driver seems to be messed up. When correcting to the computer via USB MSC mode, files get corrupted after transferred and I had to take out the microSD and connect to the PC to do a diskcheck. It also have issues with transferring files between the phone and microSD.
To fix this issue, go into Settings -> Storage -> press 'MENU' button -> select 'USB computer connection' -> select MTP mode.
Getting Robert Broglia emulators to work correctly: Two things:
-First, go to Settings -> Developers options -> Enable 'Force GPU rendering'. This really make a difference in performance. (While you're there, also disable the system animation.)
-Then in his emulators, go to Options -> Video -> turn off 'Fast CPU->GPU Copy'. Otherwise you will see a blank screen when you load the roms.
-Also use the Snes9x emulator from his website, don't use the Snes9x Ex+ from the Playstore, it perform poorer.
PSX: FPSE have the best performance. Leave it on software mode and each time you start the game, go to Setting -> System -> Enable 'Boost mode'.
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Tried the SlimBean but I can't say I'm impressed by how it performs. So far NXT Gaming and AuroraPlay are also very good alternatives for the NXT Light Edition.
UPDATE: JokaWildv3 is a little faster than the NXT. WITHOUT overclock, it managed to show 28-34 FPS in Tekken 3. NXT scores approximately 5-7 frames less.
Looks like we have a new champion.
El Diablo said:
UPDATE: JokaWildv3 is a little faster than the NXT. WITHOUT overclock, it managed to show 28-34 FPS in Tekken 3. NXT scores approximately 5-7 frames less.
Looks like we have a new champion.
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JokaWildv3 has better memory management than nxt. I easily achieve 57-60 fps easily with overclock see my signature below for my settings.
gbxplay v3 is my daily rom for couple of mounths and I think its one of the best.try it.
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I don't think there's a faster ROM than JokaWild because it offers the maximum performance and really pushes Play's limits. I can't imagine how further a ROM can be improved by tweaks, memory optimizations and so on.
All we need is a way to install the updated Adreno drivers to GB. With OC I guess we can play all N64 and PSX (With OpenGL) near full speed.
Any volunteer developers?
If someone can reupload TrueAncestor ROM it would be wonderful. It looks promising and definitely I'd like to to give it a shot.
Also, I'm really wondering why JB and ICS ROMs perform so bad while GB ROMs make wonders. A technical explanation is much appreciated.
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If someone can reupload TrueAncestor ROM it would be wonderful. It looks promising and definitely I'd like to to give it a shot.
Also, I'm really wondering why JB and ICS ROMs perform so bad while GB ROMs make wonders. A technical explanation is much appreciated.
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That's what happen with proprietary hardwares that is no longer supported by orig manufacturers.
Quick Update: Your ROM (N64) DO effect the overall performance. Not much, but gaining 5 or more frames isn't something you can ignore easily.
And I have an important request: Please, if you know any other ways to improve the performance by scripts, some tweaks, etc, share with me. I'm searching the whole internet for a week and didn't find anything useful so far. You may say "meh gaining two or three frames per second won't help ya much" but right now I need EVERY frame to reach at least 40 FPS when testing emus. If I succeed that means our Play can handle all the N64 and PSX games without problems and slowdown, thus being the ultimate portable device for emulation, including the GP devices (i.e. GP2X).
Oh, and are there any ICS/JB ROMs that offer identical or better (I doubt that) performance to GB? If so, please name it and I'll be happy to try.
El Diablo said:
Quick Update: Your ROM (N64) DO effect the overall performance. Not much, but gaining 5 or more frames isn't something you can ignore easily.
And I have an important request: Please, if you know any other ways to improve the performance by scripts, some tweaks, etc, share with me. I'm searching the whole internet for a week and didn't find anything useful so far. You may say "meh gaining two or three frames per second won't help ya much" but right now I need EVERY frame to reach at least 40 FPS when testing emus. If I succeed that means our Play can handle all the N64 and PSX games without problems and slowdown, thus being the ultimate portable device for emulation, including the GP devices (i.e. GP2X).
Oh, and are there any ICS/JB ROMs that offer identical or better (I doubt that) performance to GB? If so, please name it and I'll be happy to try.
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extremerom developer claims that its kinda like GB.worth a test i think.:good:
Tried it already, unfortunately there's no difference.
The r800i enhanced v2 firmware also runs games very smooth with little lags. Try it out
You can find it in the dev section..
Will definitely try. Thanks for your suggestion.
And just noticed Doomkernel v14 is A LOT faster (like 50% more FPS in games) than LupusGB when it comes to gaming.
Edit: Tried that ROM (4.0.2.A.0.58) once, it's nowhere close to JokaWild. Thanks anyway.
Sorry for misleading, JokaWild is NOT the fastest ROM available, it's pre-overclocked to 1.4 GHz.
AuroraPlay v0.3 and NXT LE are the current champions.
Has anyone played Gangstar Vegas on Arc S without lag or other problem ? "Very low" visual quality gives lag free gaming experience,but can't see other people or vehicles.On "Medium" visual quality,the game lags so much... If "Low" is selected,everything goes black.Only the navigation and action buttons are shown.Have anyone faced it? Got any solution to play it well on xperia 2011 line ?
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Has anyone played Gangstar Vegas on Arc S without lag or other problem ? "Very low" visual quality gives lag free gaming experience,but can't see other people or vehicles.On "Medium" visual quality,the game lags so much... If "Low" is selected,everything goes black.Only the navigation and action buttons are shown.Have anyone faced it? Got any solution to play it well on xperia 2011 line ?
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Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs are not good for gaming. Use Gingerbread, 4.0.2.A.0.62.
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Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs are not good for gaming. Use Gingerbread, 4.0.2.A.0.62.
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OR Jelly bean, with a 2.6 based kernel.
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OR Jelly bean, with a 2.6 based kernel.
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If there is any jb kernel based on 2.6
(which works without losing WiFi or Bluetooth or getting damn reboots )
And out there is can u please give me the link for it plzzzz
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whisper_ said:
If there is any jb kernel based on 2.6
(which works without losing WiFi or Bluetooth or getting damn reboots )
And out there is can u please give me the link for it plzzzz
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The best kernel FusioN made and the most stable for JB 4.1 ROMs, the 5.4. There are links everywhere, but if you want I can attach it to this message
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The best kernel FusioN made and the most stable for JB 4.1 ROMs, the 5.4. There are links everywhere, but if you want I can attach it to this message
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Actually I doubt it will be possible playing Gangstar Vegas on medium settings with our Devices without any lag using any Rom.
Gangstar is damn big and got High Quality Graphics, but we must face the fact that the time will come where our phone will be pushed to the limits and simply has not enough power to run the game...
At least I´m sure that you won´t be able to play it on Good Quality Graphics and witout lag on our phones. :silly:
For best gaming performance I recommend the new Atomic GB 8.0.
Thank you all for your suggestions...But have you tested the game on JB or GB ? And why the "Low" quality graphics is not available for us? I mean everything goes black if low is selected...Only option "Very Low" or 'Medium" are available for us...!!
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Actually I doubt it will be possible playing Gangstar Vegas on medium settings with our Devices without any lag using any Rom.
Gangstar is damn big and got High Quality Graphics, but we must face the fact that the time will come where our phone will be pushed to the limits and simply has not enough power to run the game...
At least I´m sure that you won´t be able to play it on Good Quality Graphics and witout lag on our phones. :silly:
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Soo.. you want a video of me running it lagfree or something? xD gangstar vegas isn't thaaat heavy graphic, I ran on decent settings gta 3.. :l You just have to get the proper ROM and proper settings, our adreno and snapdragon can do magic.
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Soo.. you want a video of me running it lagfree or something? xD gangstar vegas isn't thaaat heavy graphic, I ran on decent settings gta 3.. :l You just have to get the proper ROM and proper settings, our adreno and snapdragon can do magic.
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so your settings and rom are the one you´ve put in signature?
I still doubt that it looks at any way equal to the screenshots gameloft released in terms of graphic.
I can´t even select *High Quality" in Gangstar Quality settings, that says it all, unfortunatly
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Soo.. you want a video of me running it lagfree or something? xD gangstar vegas isn't thaaat heavy graphic, I ran on decent settings gta 3.. :l You just have to get the proper ROM and proper settings, our adreno and snapdragon can do magic.
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Gta 3 aint that heavy
I ran gta3 on stock ICS rom and kernel with very little lag
Ofcourse i removed the sound to speed up the game
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so your settings and rom are the one you´ve put in signature?
I still doubt that it looks at any way equal to the screenshots gameloft released in terms of graphic.
I can´t even select *High Quality" in Gangstar Quality settings, that says it all, unfortunatly
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No, for heavy games and to run them lagfree, are the same settings but with the difference of 1.5 GHz.
edit the file profile.bin in the folder Android/obb/com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftGGHM
like this
5 0 5 3 21
then launch the game,you can get the medium quality
If you want to use your phone for heavy gaming, I recommend you to use a GB based ROM like Atomic GB (best for UI) or XGAMER (best for performance) with a custom kernel like LupusGB or DooMKerneL ! Don't install RAM consuming apps like Facebook, WhatsApp, etc. and keep your phone light ! If it continues to lag, try to overclock your phone (but it can be dangerous !) ! That's all folks !
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Has anyone played Gangstar Vegas on Arc S without lag or other problem ? "Very low" visual quality gives lag free gaming experience,but can't see other people or vehicles.On "Medium" visual quality,the game lags so much... If "Low" is selected,everything goes black.Only the navigation and action buttons are shown.Have anyone faced it? Got any solution to play it well on xperia 2011 line ?
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yeah im running it on my Arc S without any lag on medium With 1.5GHz / ondemand / deadline....
see my signature
I don't get this,ok i get that lt18i is a bit faster than lt15i but with overclocking it can get there.
But i tried Ultimate HD and i tried Racing Bean 3.1 but non of these ROM's don't work with heavy games,GTA3 lags,Wild Blood multiplayer unplayable.gangsta rio lags like hell.And my RAM can't get higher than 200 mb and that's in his best days i mean if i have just maybe 10 apps installed.It's stupid to say that ICS/JB is better than GB in gaming,yes it's true ICS/JB looks so perfect and beautiful but now we have GB ROM's that looks like ICS or JB,here i'm using one it's called Atomic GB 8 and i can get 240mb Ram when i stop apps that are running,that's grate,and when i restart my phone and stop apps i can get up to 250-260 mb,and in combo with DooMKernel v22 ICS/JB don't stand a chance,the ROM doesn't look so much like ICS but it's getting there,if you want Jelly Bean look,there is Gin2JellyBean,but didn't try that ROM myself so i don't know what to tell about it.I didn't try this game yet on my Arc lt15i with Atomic GB 8 ROM but i will.I don't have very big hopes for it but hey...
Hello there,I have a question that I want to ask...I know a lot of Xperia S/SL user suffers from lag in MX Player while touching the screen...And the problem also happen while watching videos from the YouTube apps...
I have the solution,that is by changing "debug.composition.type" from "dyn" to "gpu" from the build.prop...It is the equivalent as disable HW overlays in dev option...And it is the same as disable Project Butter and let the GPU do all the work for screen compositing...
I already test it and it work...MX Player and YouTube apps run smoothly without a single lag while touching the screen...
My question is,it is ok to change "debug.composition.type" from "dyn" to "gpu" and let the GPU do all the work for screen compositing???It is going to effect the system,hardware or the battery life???
Changing it from dyn to gpu should save battery
Also xperia gpu is crappy meaning that either way your allways going to have some lag
Here is some extra info
Dyn = cpu and gpu
Gpu= gpu only
Cpu= cpu only
Mdp= multi depth something (buggy on xs)
C2d=core to duo (kinda like dyn only more gpu use)
There are some others
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Thx a lot for your reply...I change it to "gpu" and notice a bit of lag while scrolling through the setting...
I've been wondering did other Sony device suffers the same problem as Xperia S/SL...Or it's just Sony fault because doesn't fix this problem...
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Thx a lot for your reply...I change it to "gpu" and notice a bit of lag while scrolling through the setting...
I've been wondering did other Sony device suffers the same problem as Xperia S/SL...Or it's just Sony fault because doesn't fix this problem...
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I think its older sony phones , i get lag even scroling through photos (got a S)
Z1,ZU,XC,Z dont have any noticable lag when it comes to small things like youtube
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