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Ok, so I got my new EVO last week. I haven't updated to the new 2.2 (Froyo) yet, though I keep getting the popup saying I should do it. I'll get around to it eventually .. lol. Anyway, my question is ... my battery seems to drain rather quickly throughout the day. I'm not necessarily doing anything spectacular, I have gmail and an exchange (outlook) mail account that are synching .. oh, and the weather widget and bluetooth is always on. I do check my facebook account every once in a while but don't keep it running all the time (at least I don't think it is ... I didn't add the widget, rather just the app to my home screen). I am not putzing with my phone all the time but here it is, almost 2:30 and my battery is at 47% since unplugging it from the charger at 6am. Will updating to 2.2 help with my battery issue? How can I see what is draining my battery?
Yea I'm having the same problem ... IDK I got task killer but its not helping
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g00fette said:
Ok, so I got my new EVO last week. I haven't updated to the new 2.2 (Froyo) yet, though I keep getting the popup saying I should do it. I'll get around to it eventually .. lol. Anyway, my question is ... my battery seems to drain rather quickly throughout the day. I'm not necessarily doing anything spectacular, I have gmail and an exchange (outlook) mail account that are synching .. oh, and the weather widget and bluetooth is always on. I do check my facebook account every once in a while but don't keep it running all the time (at least I don't think it is ... I didn't add the widget, rather just the app to my home screen). I am not putzing with my phone all the time but here it is, almost 2:30 and my battery is at 47% since unplugging it from the charger at 6am. Will updating to 2.2 help with my battery issue? How can I see what is draining my battery?
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to check your battery there are apps in the market for that... you can also go to menu --- settings-- about phone---battery---battery use. Also try these tips from this website it has worked wonders for me on my stock rooted Evo http://www.techhackz.com/2010/06/how-to-increase-your-htc-evo-4g-battery.html
You're not doing terrible compared to most users, although I'll bet Bluetooth is taking a significant amount of juice. Froyo isn't a magical battery saver, though it is supposedly more efficient. You may be better of rooting and getting an undervolted ROM in combination with some conservative "Screen off" SetCPU profiles.
Three things: First, you can turn off the OTA notification by going into your settings menu - Software Update and turning off the scheduled check. You'll still be able to check manually whenever you want. Second, turning off "always on mobile data" will save a good amount of battery, but you'll lose Gmail push and some other minor things. Third, think long and hard before you accept that 2.2 OTA update. It can't be rooted yet, you can't go back to 2.1, and we still don't know if/when a root method will be found. If you want Froyo and there's a 0.001% chance you might want to root sometime in the future, you're better off rooting NOW and flashing a ROOTED stock OTA update from the Development section.
Just my thoughts.
Ok, so I downloaded System Panel (the free version for now) from the Market and was able to identify some things that were running that I thought were closed. Not sure what, if any, impact that will have ... time will tell. Here's my next question. After going to Settings/Applications/Running services I'm trying to figure out what some of these things are to determine if I need them running:
Mail - MailService (I'm guessing this is my Gmail?)
Mail - EASDirectpush (I'm guessing this is my Exchange (Outlook)?)
Calendar - ObexService (ummm ... is this my synch'd calendar from Outlook?)
Calendar - ConnectivityService (no idea what this is?)
Touch Input - Touch Input (is it as self explanatory as it sounds?)
HTC DM - HtcDmService (no idea what this is?)
HTC IQAgent - AgentService (no idea what this is?)
com.smithmicro.dm - DMServiceApp (no idea what this is?)
g00fette said:
Ok, so I downloaded System Panel (the free version for now) from the Market and was able to identify some things that were running that I thought were closed. Not sure what, if any, impact that will have ... time will tell. Here's my next question. After going to Settings/Applications/Running services I'm trying to figure out what some of these things are to determine if I need them running:
Mail - MailService (I'm guessing this is my Gmail?)
Mail - EASDirectpush (I'm guessing this is my Exchange (Outlook)?)
Calendar - ObexService (ummm ... is this my synch'd calendar from Outlook?)
Calendar - ConnectivityService (no idea what this is?)
Touch Input - Touch Input (is it as self explanatory as it sounds?)
HTC DM - HtcDmService (no idea what this is?)
HTC IQAgent - AgentService (no idea what this is?)
com.smithmicro.dm - DMServiceApp (no idea what this is?)
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Thats not the functionality you want out of systempanel - what you're refferring to here is essentially using it as a task killer, which you shouldn't be using. Those items will just keep restarting - it's more efficient to just leave them in the background where they're not using cpu or battery.
The main functionality of systempanel lies only in the bought version, I'm afraid. What it does is allow you to set it up to monitor your phone - so you can go back to it a day later and see how your battery, cpu, and device usage were affected over a period of time.
Honestly though, for non-rooted, you're not doing too bad on battery. If you want better, you're probably going to want to root, which will allow you to use custom ROMs and kernels that allow overclocking and underclocking. And also allow you to remove bloatware.
Regardless if your rooted or not, make sure you go into all of the stock apps, like talk, stocks, news, etc, and set them up to never login and never sync. Then install the network app from the market and make sure that you're set to cdma auto prl. this should help.
And note what SilverZero mentioned - CURRENTLY THERE IS NO WAY TO ROOT AFTER THE 2.2 OTA UPGRADE. This really can't be stressed enough. So if you do decide to go through with the OTA, your options will be very limited for any tweaking.
Average apps that run on everyones phone. those apps are running on mine as we speak and I am still getting good battery life. I have been off the charger since 7a.m. and I am at 78% phone calls and text with wifi and 3g running all day. try that link I posted
This may sound like a real stupid noob question but if I root my phone do I have to flash a ROM? Or will the stock ROM (2.1) still be there?
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This may sound like a real stupid noob question but if I root my phone do I have to flash a ROM? Or will the stock ROM (2.1) still be there?
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stock rom will be there - you have the option to flash a rom once rooted, but if you want, you can just stop once rooted - some people root just to be able to run titanium backup.
noob. jk ;-)
Seems guys on the Androidforms are saying 2.2 is getting pushed OTA as of this morning...good news for T-Mobile users
Can confirm that, updating now yippee at last.
And me 30% in about 3 mins over WiFi
Camera seems unchanged. Controls still on the left (top). Can anyone point me in the direction of a definitive list of Desire froyo improvements/changes. Thanks
update
All done
We now have portable WiFi!!!!
Just out of curiosity, what sort of branding is on the T mobile desire? I mean is there any changed apps, boot screens?
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Things I've noticed so far...
MS Exchange password no longer required
720p video recording enabled
Wifi hot-spot deffo there and working
annoying t-mo bloat splash-screen as well as the pink circle at startup
browsing on internet seems loads quicker - not tested speed for sure yet
Install Apps to SD
took about 15 mins to update and didn't erase anything, kept all existing apps.
Nothing negative yet
What are the version numbers? Radio?
ROM: 2.12.110.2
Radio: 32.46.00.32U_5.10.05.17_2
Only negative is the removal of the "privacy" settings - now has to be located using search.
Calendar entries lost...
If you get the 'You have no calendars'. Just go to Settings and Calendars. I checked my Gmail and PC - and they all back. With a bit of delay, so you might have to be patient to let it update it!
orange user
It seems t mobile haven't done too much
We still have a splash screen. And we have a new top apps icon
Well done t mobile.you said september and delivered without problems...
sticking with my rooted device, although the radio might work better seeing that my desire is a t-mobile
I root with the Unrevoked 3.21rc on 2.1, but now that I tried installing the 2.2 OTA update it's stuck in a boot loop. Any advise on how to get the phone working again?
Also just noticed a fix to the audio playback volume using a headset, it seems approx 40% louder and more bass. One happy bunny here
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I've got a rooted Desire done with unrevoked3. As I understood it I could update using T-Mobile OTA and would then have their branded, bloated 2.2 and lose root.
I'm now reading that I have to unroot the phone before updating.
If this is the case, I'd like to consider updating to the vanilla HTC Sense version of 2.2, so please humour this n00b and clarify the following:
1: Which ROM is the vanilla one, I've done a search and must be missing something obvious!
2: Are there any downsides to having the stock rom as opposed to the T-Mob uk one, e.g. network performance, etc?
3: Unrooting - bricking potential?
4: Apparently the T-Mob rom is >80mb and the standard Sense one is apparently about 25mb. So far I can only find anecdotal evidence on the T-Mob forums to say the bloat is a bunch of irremovable links to 'top apps' (sigh), German voicemail and web TV things which I can't imagine are so huge. Am I misinformd regarding the 2.2 Desire sense vanilla size?
only T-Mo thing I can see in addiction is a new app called "TopApps". It just shows some T-Mobile recommended apps. Pretty useless really.
Apparently using anything other than Sense will reveal the other useless apps.
So, filling the device with pointless things then hiding them. Thanks, T-Mobile.
I've encountered a few problems prior to and after updating. For some reason unbeknownst to me I couldn't back up any of my messages (which means they are gone forever) also, Handcent SMS refuses to work now. I've uninstalled and reinstalled and it still just black screens me and then I have to reset my phone.
I'm not too pleased with the Tmob Froyo so far.
Mine is being awkward and won't update!
I download the update, it backs up my data and when it restarts I see the round circle and then it goes to a black screen and nothing happens.
I haven't rooted it, so I'm wondering why it's being annoying.
I wonder what are all those apps doing in the Manage Applications - Running? Some of them are widgets, but not all... I just restarted my Desire and it already fills up with Mobilbox Pro, Photoshop, Open GPS tracker etc... do they now start automatically?
Otherwise... Froyo feels really really good! mmmm!
A few weeks back I upgraded from 4.1.2 stock to 4.4.2 Liquidsmooth on my SGH-T999V. I've updated a few times since and am running 2014-03-28. The 4.4.2 transition has been quite painful. I'm lost control of my phone and key functionality no longer works. I really don't understand how manufacturers think it is ok to suddenly turn on SELinux with their settings, provide no means to change them and disable every venue I can find to configure my device or turn this off when needed.
1. Has anyone found a workaround which can get SELinux into permissive on this device? If I don't find a solution to this, this will be the last Samsung device I ever buy... All my Nexus devices all work well with 4.4.2, updated easy with OTA updates and do not have this foolishness.
2. On 4.4.2, my device keeps forgetting my wifi access points and it is getting tiresome. I'll find the device on mobile data, restore my wifi access points from Titanium backup XML and before the restore notification even completes I'll be back on working Wifi. Wifi lasts about a day. Has anyone found a solution to this or even what is causing this?
***Edit 2. seems to have fixed itself in recent nightly builds.
3. There are certain key applications which do not work properly on this 4.4.2 ROM. Some I gave up on. Others I can't. Specifically both ING Direct Canada banking application and Symantec VIP Access soft token both fail in a similar way. Basically after a normal splash screen the main screens of the applications have huge text and huge buttons. Elements of the UI are also huge ex. the menu on the login screen which used to be a single or a couple rows now takes half the screen. Basically everything is on at least 6X zoom. I'm not even really sure what is causing this. I've tried tweaking some per app settings but they didn't help. Can anyone suggest a solution?
I do like the UI improvements but that may just be from switching to KK Launcher. The device seems faster and my battery does seem to last a lot longer on this ROM.
Update
The apps which are huge zoomed are getting slowly replaced with fixed versions.
Forgetful Wifi access points seem to have been fixed in the nightly builds. Selinux remains an unworkable problem.
i want to downgrade my htc one m8 from lolipop to kitkat 4 again. can you please help me i dont like this os . kitkat was perfect
mohamedabdallah2010 said:
i want to downgrade my htc one m8 from lolipop to kitkat 4 again. can you please help me i dont like this os . kitkat was perfect
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You need to unlock/s-off to get 100% downgrade, or, you can unlock bootloader, flash twrp, and install a kittkatt custom rom.
thanks
thanks but i was on iphone i dont know whats all this. can you please tell me steps
It's not a case of following some steps. What you want is very technical and not for someone with no prior knowledge of rooting Android phones.
What don't you like about lollipop? It's no different, visually, to Kit Kat on the M8
slower
its slower and more battery consume and i dont like the notifications
mohamedabdallah2010 said:
its slower and more battery consume and i dont like the notifications
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Sounds like you update by OTA. In which case, updating by OTA and keeping user data is often the root of random issues. Try backing up any important personal data and doing a factory reset (to wipe user data - and NO this will not return you to a former OS version as some folks mistakenly believe). Lollipop isn't slower than KitKat in any significant way that I've noticed. You're probably seeing bugs due to conflicts with pre-existing user data (settings and apps).
Battery consumption may be due to the new radio. But it might also be a bug caused by pre-existing data, or you may just need to do a full charge-discharge cycle to properly calibrate the battery meter (mandatory after a major OS update).
Also, OTAs contain important security updates. So it should be considered that you won't have these if you "downgrade".
Something to consider - do you use Facebook Messenger? Turns out since the new Google Play services it's been eating battery like no one's business! Read the reviews on the Play Store for proof but it does seem to be linked to Lollipop and (for me) Google Play services 6.7.74
There's bugs even in OTA updates from 4.4.4 seems most if not all manufacturers having problems and they can really screw your handset up - apps consuming battery (not just Play Store) bad mobile internet, losing Wi-Fi , corrupting system, removing apps, deleting SDCard data.
Probably due to crap OTA "patched" system updates. Myself, once handset is back from warranty repair (12 days use, 4 of which OTA stuffed it up) I'll not use OTA again that's for sure.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
Since I've removed Facebook Messenger my phone is back to normal, battery life as it was on 4.4.4 and everything is OK so I'm happy (don't use FB Messenger enough to warrant having it!)
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thank you all about reply's. i searched google and i see all people talking about battery and fb messanger on all phones. so you recommend to me to stay on lollipop ? but i dont like really this notification control
So I'm not alone in facing issues with Lollipop
When I update, I was getting terrible battery life so I performed a hard reset from bootloader.
Now almost everything is fine but Google Play Services, more specifically "Mobile radio active" has been eating into the standby time, not like before but still bad, goes on upto 3 hours. "Keep awake" also goes on upto 2 hours.
Any fix or suggestions would be helpful. I don't use Messenger and Facebook, as they were the major battery eaters.
Rather than keeping an eye on pointless stats, how long does your battery actually last? I honestly think people are making up issues. Now, the FB Messenger HAS been eating battery but once I removed that my battery life went back to normal
My battery was better but mobile data was screwed, WiFi only showing my router and no others, never used facebook (so it's not that app alone) blinkfeed consumed 46% of battery use. All on 4.4.4 update so to say people are making a big issue of it, yeah damn right, it was 100% better without the update!
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
But that's your individual issue between your phone/router/apps/etc. I've had zero issues with Lollipop bar this one with FB Messenger since the new Google Play services so I uninstalled it and now I'm back to running perfectly so clearly the OTA update isn't the issue
Have you done a factory reset to clear out anything left over from 4.4.4? It's always recommended to do so, as annoying as it is, when moving to a new version of Android. I set my phone up from scratch and have no problems with 5.0.1
I have done... Update still goosed it, so maybe you having no problems it's you that's the lucky one! That's why it's back at HTC!
If these patched updates were any good nobody would have issues!
Makes more sense than... It's just your issue!
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
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Uninstalling facebook so obviously not stock so the fact you're flashing quite possibly other ROM's negates your lack of problems. Fully stock phone updated worked worse than what I'm using now. Full stop.
There is also the fact I was told by my phone supplier that problems with updates are industry wide since 4.4.4 and if all the update are, are patches, then it's not going to be a quick fix, like it's known there's variations in the handsets with the carriers.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
If there were issues they'd pull the update and there'd be more media coverage. I've not flashed anything on my phone, I'm 100% stock and I've not rooted a phone in well over a year. My phone is running the latest Sense build released and have no issues. Now I only use about ten third party apps so it could just be that that means I'm not having issues. Or it could be I close all apps once I've finished with them. I don't know. But I don't think there's anything wrong with what HTC have released
Doesn't explain the problems people are having, my handset was working 100% A-ok the update which I never applied or accepted stuffed it, maybe it's not in the media because it's not affecting, like yourself, people who don't use it as heavily as others, like I said I've been told the industry is having problems with them, maybe the lucky ones less or not affected are low use.
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
Who told you the industry is having issues, though? I've not heard of Samsung of LG owners having issues, nor those with Nexus devices (well, not huge numbers of people anyway!), so I don't think Lollipop as a whole is the issue at all. Now, I'm not saying people don't have issues, but I think those issues are down to individual setups (apps installed, usage, even the components used in that particular handset). Perhaps I am lucky, but if I am I've been lucky with every phone I've ever owned
thank you all . here is what i did. i did a hard reset and restored my data then installed whatsapp only and now my battery is back to be very good as it was on kitkat and better. i will install every single app one a day to check which one eating the battery. and i will update you with details. and i see much people talking about this issue on other sites and other handsets.thanks
For me battery works good sometimes and then suddenly starts losing charge during standby, so I check and find Mobile Radio Active has been eating away the battery, while this was not the case with 4.4.4. Even with FB and Messenger installed I didn't have any problems but now I do. I uninstalled both so battery is better than what it was with them but still I lose charge mysteriously in standby randomly.
So, I've decided that right now there isn't any hardware out there that is enough of an improvement over the Note3 to get me to upgrade (will wait for SD820-based phones).
Unfortunately since T-Mobile has neglected this phone we are running a year-old version of Android, and thus are vulnerable to all of the fun widely-reported security holes uncovered since then.
From what I've been reading all AOSP-based ROMs seem to be dealing with NFC/sensor fusion issues (CM has open bugs for both issues).
My question right now is: is there anything available for the Note 3 that would allow it to have the latest security fixes without having to deal with other major issues like the ones I mentioned above?
I don't really even care about having 5.1, I just want my phone to be more secure.
I'm with you about new phones and actually dislike Note 5 (no SD, non removable battery etc. WTF Samsung, if I wanted iphone I would get one). As far as I know the stagefright is the only major issue on the system level, otherwise chrome bug for example should be fixed with chrome update and other stuff should be easy to avoid as long as normal precautions are followed (installing apps from Play store only for example). But I think even stagefright bug was little overblown. My understanding is Android has ASLR (random address space allocation) so buffer overflow bug is difficult to take advantage off, since the hackers don't know where in memory needed functions are located, so even with the bug, Note 3 should be relatively safe. I updated my wife's GS5 to latest Lollipop: she hates it, I don't like it much either , so not having latest operating software is not a problem for me. Bottom line I don't worry about it too much, I just scan my phone with antivirus and all it can find is that my phone is rooted, like I didn't know that already. I'm running stock, since I can't find custom ROM that has all functions enabled, like WIFI calling, NFC etc. There was some talk of monthly security updates for Android, like Windows have, but with Google, phone makers and carriers all involved, I doubt it will happen soon.