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I have an iPhone 3GS at the moment and I am looking to sell it and buy the desire. How does the battery life compare to the 3GS. Has anyone on this forum come from a 3GS to a desire?
I've borrowed an iPhone GS and I think the battery life is better on the GS to the Desire. My Desire is new so I am fiddling a lot with it across all it's goodies from surfing to Satellite stuff to wireless and I'm getting through battery life in a few hours right now. It was almost the same with the 3GS for me but the 3GS still lasted longer.
I do have to say though, that the Desire is new and typically with new phones, it needs a few updates until the manufacturers sort things out with updates and battery life is managed a little better. The 3GS has been out a while and has had those tweaks already so the battery life is better overall than the Desire.
In Desire's favour, the one thing that is good to know is that if you know you are going to use it a lot, you can go to play.com and buy a spare battery to take around with you.
or get one of these lol
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/01/seidios-3200mah-battery-for-nexus-one-the-results-are-in/
You just need to configure your Desire better, the battery is more or less the same as in the 3GS, apple doesnt have the ability to have several things running in the background and all downloading at once. With the android you can run a lot of background apps that will drain the battery faster.
I would say that they are about the same i.e. Not great.
Both will last a full day of average use but that's about it. They both need to be charged every night.
A spare battery is an idea for the Desire but the back cover is a bit too flimsy in my opinion for this to be a preferred option.
Battery management is a better idea. i.e. Reduce the brightness, turn off wi-fi, bluetooth and gps if not needed. Don't use 3G. Reduce update frequency of email, weather apps. etc. I find with my use that I don't need to do anything other than switch off wi-fi, gps and bluetooth when I'm not using them to get a days use but it depends how much use you make of the phone.
That's good my iPhone battery is ok for me anyway better than my g1 anyway. Looks like the desires battery won't be a problem.
Any pointers for increasing battery life? I've disabled live wallpapers, picked a dark background, set friendfeed etc to update every 4 hours, and it's still not great. Phone is new, should I expect battery life to improve as battery gets used a bit?
Are task killers worth using? Seems to be some debate that they might actually cause more problems than they solve.
I've gone through forum and found lots of generic advice but would appreciate any ideas people have tried on the Desire.
Do I *really* need to wturn off wifi when I'm not using it? Isn't the phone smart enough to not use it when a known-network isn't present?
Cheers
From my experience i would advise against having a task killer running.
I used to have one running on my N1 and thought, "Great, i can free up memory". But you really don't need to do that with Android.
Having disabled it from running, I get to teh end of the day and I have between 75 and 85 battery, after having done a fair few phone calls, some net fun and data access.
I still have a task killer but I use it infrequently and dont have it running - i let it "kill" itself after running it.
I found they take up a good deal of battery life. But that's just my opinion.
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From my experience i would advise against having a task killer running.
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Of course!
The classic task killers kill services that are sleeping and do no eat battery.
A few minuts later, on some receivers ( connexion to internet, message or SMS received) these services will restart, and that's where they are eating battery.
If you hadn't killed them, they would have done that without eating battery.
Waking up and then going to sleep is really less battery-eater than restarting the whole service.
So, please forget about all these task killers or do that in a smart way. Only kill your game or the latest app you used!
Battery life will improve over the first weeks use. Needs a few charge cycles to achieve full capacity.
Although the battery life might not be as good as some other "imore ipopular" handsets at least you can buy a second reasonably cheap battery if you know you will be a couple of days away from a possible charge (camping etc).
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Battery life will improve over the first weeks use. Needs a few charge cycles to achieve full capacity.
Although the battery life might not be as good as some other "imore ipopular" handsets at least you can buy a second reasonably cheap battery if you know you will be a couple of days away from a possible charge (camping etc).
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You serious? I am guessing you're referring to the iPhone, the smartphone that is on charge more times than its off charge?
My Desire hands down beats an iPhone for battery life by almost 100% - only ever got 1 day of an iPhone at best - Desire is approaching nearly 2 days full usage, I am no lite user either.
For battery life the Desire is one, if not the best out there at the moment.
thank christ for that, i presume it improves after a couple of charges. mine was new on friday and the battery's pretty uninspiring so far...
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thank christ for that, i presume it improves after a couple of charges. mine was new on friday and the battery's pretty uninspiring so far...
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My Desire has been up for 21.5 hours and has 3 bars left (according to the settings battery meter) but I've been driving around most of the day with spotify on listening to music, quite a bit of surfing, emailing, calls and a few texts.
I reckon it's probably got another 5+ hours to go yet.
My phone is quite new and battery life is starting to improve daily now.
Hmm... struggle to get more than 5 or 6 hours out if mine under relatively light usage, maybe 20 mins calls and 3 or 4 texts, if I use browser it flatten quicker still, the battery use status usually says Android OS itself has used most battery.
Hoping it will improve, at moment it is poor compared to my TD2 with a smaller battery
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had mine about 6 days and my battery is ver poor at the moment. however i remember thinking that about the G1 at first and it got better.
still was luck to get a full day from it. however i went to europe the other week (from uk) so turned all roaming data and syncing off and it lasted 4 days.
fingures crossed battery life increases on the desire, gor a car charger on orded fron fleabay so i should survive
i loved my G1, and found it hard to upgrade, first time thats ever happend, but wow this desire is differnt class, my wife has the iphone and is green and my 16 year old son is gutted he got the hero only 6 months ago.
Re: desire battery life
I've been running my desire for nearly two weeks now.
As usual WiFi & gps are the main culprits.
On average, I have exchange & GMAIL push on 3G all day with a bit of Facebook, sms & several min long calls without going past the three quarter mark by 5:30pm . However as soon as I switch on WiFi at home for browsing, reading news feeds, market etc, bang goes my battery!
Turn off 3G and sync and use it as a phone.......great battery life!
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Yea not sure how you guys get good battery out of it. I have everything off, dark background, no synching due to having mobile network off (only thing setup to sync is email every 2 hours). I take a few phone calls maybe 30-40mins, do about 15 mins of surfing, 30 mins of music through headphones at low volume, and a game for 30 mins. That pretty much concludes my battery life for the day (is usually at around 20% left by the time I get home).
I find if I browse the market and download/install apps, my battery will go down very quickly.
Got my desire for a week now and it lasts me 2 days woth some movies, wifi and messaging. if i go even lighter, only messaging and calls it lasted me almost 4 days. it has great battery in my opinion, better than my old hd2 and even better then my old old diamond
Over in General we found an issue with the calendar app keeping the phone from going into sleep mode - That could be a cause for poor battery life.
The thread is here (remove spaces please):
h ttp:// f orum. xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666404
My Desire have no problem on battery so far tho, 1½ day with normal use is no problem. litle use i can use it around 2 days, but with alot off things running i would say for sure it works over a full working day.
Mine has been running for 20 hours now, I have mainly been calling, texting, surfing the net (mainly facebook), and playing a game a couple of times.
I'm not really sure whether this is good or not, I would rather it lasted longer than this, as it is due for a charge within the next few hours, and this is a bit of an awkward time to need to charge it. If I wasn't off work today I'd have a dead phone before I got home.
I don't like to charge mine before it tells me too, I like to think it'll improve the battery life over time? Is this right?
those batteries are not affected by memory effect. charging everytime you can is better than drain battery to 0%
HTC have said there is a software issue with battery levels hench the charging issues. Fix in the future they suggested.
Weather this effects the actual life of battery not sure.
I have just come from the HD2
At the beginning, everyone agreed that the battery life was god awful, and a month or so in everyone reported that the battery life was outstanding!
I can confirm this, to start with it wouldnt last me a day, by the end of it i could leave 3g and wifi on all day with everything running in the background and get a good 2 full days out of it!
I just received the desire yesterday, i gave it a full overnight charge and i must report that for the first charge the battery life looks very promising
I have used the phone VERY heavily even for me with about 100 texts, an hour talking, an hour on the internet and syncing every 15 mins or so and i have 2 bars of battery left, and i said, the battery is only going to get better!
You should look at power management tips for the HD2 as most of them apply, for example disabling 'automatic backlght' and setting it yourself because that alone can add about 30% to your battery life.
currently at 2 days 15 hours with 6/10 battery bars left.
i have gps/wifi/internet disabled and turn them on with the settings widgets when i want to use them. screen brightness at about 20%
the battery is great IMO
Guys could u please tell if I should when receiving my phone charge it directly (full charge) or it's better to empty it completely and then charge it ?
Thanx
In the story he states that the batter would last four hours? any truth to this? he also explained that there is lag in the sense?
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
Maybe 4 hours of non-stop web browsing with the brightness all the way up while on 4G. Also, I've never had any lag with Sense.
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The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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hmm, alright i mean this is big for a person who is out 24-7. (arnt we all) i wonder if it has to do with anything similar to what the hero had when it was released.
My battery life is not perfect. But people always have this problem. I was a G1 owner and everyone complained about the battery life when it first came out. And then slowly after a mont or two everybody stopped...why? Because the battery life got better with time. From 5 hours or so to 9 or 10 hours.
Then I went to an HD2. The first week I was so scared I had made a huge mistake because the battery would last about 4 or 5 hours. After I did as suggested and let the battery completely burn out and then completely recharge for about three cycles, the HD2 had the best battery I had ever seen. i could use it for 2 days and have 60% left.
Now I have an Evo. And the first stay (with constant use) it died after about 4.5 hours. But I am going through the process of draining and then FULL recharge of 6-8 hours and I'm sure it will be fine.
People think they plug the phone in an hour or two and it says 100% and they have charged it. My opinion is that it takes the battery a while to know what 100% and 0% are on any given battery. After it cycles through a few times it will actually have a true accounting of the battery life, power consumption.
That is all my opinion and experience. I am hoping the EVO has a similar battery life to the HD2. That would be perfect for me.
EDIT: And as for lag....the guy is obviously on crack and just saying stuff to say stuff. I doubt he even has an EVO. He's reading about Sense Lag on the HD2 which there was some) and passing that information on. Anyone who actually HAS an evo have any lag? I think not.
And if he thinks an iPhone 3GS in ANY way blows the EVO out of the water...he is obviously lying. I mean based on feature set alone. There is no way the iphone can browse as fast (4G...hello), operate as fast (gee isn't that processor almost twice as fast), take better pictures? No. Have a front facing cam? No. Oh yeah...that screen size on the iPhone sure is better than the EVO. WTF?
Some people's kids.
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My battery life is not perfect. But people always have this problem. I was a G1 owner and everyone complained about the battery life when it first came out. And then slowly after a mont or two everybody stopped...why? Because the battery life got better with time. From 5 hours or so to 9 or 10 hours.
Then I went to an HD2. The first week I was so scared I had made a huge mistake because the battery would last about 4 or 5 hours. After I did as suggested and let the battery completely burn out and then completely recharge for about three cycles, the HD2 had the best battery I had ever seen. i could use it for 2 days and have 60% left.
Now I have an Evo. And the first stay (with constant use) it died after about 4.5 hours. But I am going through the process of draining and then FULL recharge of 6-8 hours and I'm sure it will be fine.
People think they plug the phone in an hour or two and it says 100% and they have charged it. My opinion is that it takes the battery a while to know what 100% and 0% are on any given battery. After it cycles through a few times it will actually have a true accounting of the battery life, power consumption.
That is all my opinion and experience. I am hoping the EVO has a similar battery life to the HD2. That would be perfect for me.
EDIT: And as for lag....the guy is obviously on crack and just saying stuff to say stuff. I doubt he even has an EVO. He's reading about Sense Lag on the HD2 which there was some) and passing that information on. Anyone who actually HAS an evo have any lag? I think not.
And if he thinks an iPhone 3GS in ANY way blows the EVO out of the water...he is obviously lying. I mean based on feature set alone. There is no way the iphone can browse as fast (4G...hello), operate as fast (gee isn't that processor almost twice as fast), take better pictures? No. Have a front facing cam? No. Oh yeah...that screen size on the iPhone sure is better than the EVO. WTF?
Some people's kids.
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I understand what you are saying. That was the only reason i am worried about buying an EVO. This author must have had all the applications syncing every 15 minutes. I have an apple itouch not sure how close the phone and this thing is but I like it. It is smooth and quick. (buts its not a phone). When it comes to android... Its about the experience that comes with it.
But this guy is positively being paid off haha
The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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With light usage I had 36% remaining after 14 hours the other day. I think you just need to give the battery time to get adjusted. However, I have noticed that it seems to drain faster from 100-80% than it does from 80-50%.
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With light usage I had 36% remaining after 14 hours the other day. I think you just need to give the battery time to get adjusted. However, I have noticed that it seems to drain faster from 100-80% than it does from 80-50%.
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Well I actually just recently noticed the same about my iPhone 3G. The first 10-15% go really fast.
My evo seems to do pretty good with the battery I can go the whole day without needing a charge but I do charge it when I get home. When I'm using it for games all day it drains pretty quick but at those time I plug it in... I don't know what they expect when your rocking a 1ghz processor, a 4.3 inch screen, and about every type of network connection you can fit in a phone... as far as lag goes on this phone I notice very little mainly when I'm installing like 3 or 4 apps at once... compared to my hero this thing is a rocket! And once Android 2.2 is put on here this thing will be smoking.
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My Evo lasts for 8-9 hours. That's 70% idle with screen off. Cell Standby at 40+% is killing my battery.
My motorola droid in the same time still has over 50% charge. There's no question that the Evo is a battery drainer for whatever reason.
hate to say it, but once a fan boy always a fan boy. I used to have a win-mo device (touch pro) and i like it, then i moved up (should i say downgraded) to the instinct- worst decision ever. than i used the android platform on my hero. I'd have to say its leaps and bounds easier than win-mo.. My brother has an iPhone which i always play with when he comes over, and i think its a really easy interface to play with.. thats all. The speeds at which apps were open weren't any better than my hero. I also opened up maps on his phone and mine, and my location was dead on with the hero, the iPhone was 100meters. LOL.
But everyone needs to try other stuff out and make there own decisions, dont let someone who is obviously a fan boy tell you whats good and bad.
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The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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thats ur prob ur using bluetooth it will use more battery and then ur playing the podcast at the same time any phone u do that on u will use more battery
the battery technology is a few years old. the cpu is 1ghz.. the phone is sniffing 3g/4g/wifi/bt plus the shiny screen and backlight all use power. the battery technology being used in this state of the art phone is not advancing as fast as the phones are...
the reason the top ~10% of the charge goes so quickly is due to the you taking the phone off charge.. the cells in Li-ION batteries are not created equal. some cells will get a stronger/longer charge than other cells. once you take the battery off charge, the cells that are stronger in charge than the others will feed that extra charge to those other cells, so your battery charge will fall down to around 90 or so pretty quickly out the gate.. from there the cells are all stable and equally charged and stay at a constant discharge rate for about ~87% to about ~55%.
once the charge falls below 55% the cells really start to lose their charge and the battery curve drops drastically.
when you "top off" the phone for , say, 30 minutes or so and you take it off charge and you see 100%. do understand that one or two cells have a fuller (my word) charge than others.. once the cells equalize, then you will see the tru charge (which will be much much less than 100%)...
I'll post my findings here although probably no one will believe me. I'm not a fanboi since i've phones on three carriers.
My EVO will lose 2% per hour sitting idle which is fantastic. My HD2 loses approx. the same amount, maybe a little less.
I've found the EVO to be no more power hungry than any "superphone" i've used including the iphone 3gs.
signal strength also plays a part
one thought based on my experience with a palm pre and htc hero: signal strength.
My office has very low signal strength (1 bar or less). The battery seems to drain quite fast here. If I'm somewhere else with good signal, my battery lasts much longer. Same battery drain if you're going in and out of evdo / 1Rxx.
Sean
My battery life is like all the other phones i had lately (see my sig).
No more, no less.
I have to say my battery is getting better with going through a couple full charges, as for lag nope none not here
“Phone idle,” and “Android system” that eat up over 75% of the life.
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LMAO, the fact that he wrote that puts severe doubt in his skills to review an android phone.
I can't believe this thread is going on seeing as that's an Apple Fanboy site. Will say anything to make his Iphone sound like the best thing ever. He lost all credibility when he said the Nexus One and Incredible were better phones.
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the battery technology is a few years old. the cpu is 1ghz.. the phone is sniffing 3g/4g/wifi/bt plus the shiny screen and backlight all use power. the battery technology being used in this state of the art phone is not advancing as fast as the phones are...
the reason the top ~10% of the charge goes so quickly is due to the you taking the phone off charge.. the cells in Li-ION batteries are not created equal. some cells will get a stronger/longer charge than other cells. once you take the battery off charge, the cells that are stronger in charge than the others will feed that extra charge to those other cells, so your battery charge will fall down to around 90 or so pretty quickly out the gate.. from there the cells are all stable and equally charged and stay at a constant discharge rate for about ~87% to about ~55%.
once the charge falls below 55% the cells really start to lose their charge and the battery curve drops drastically.
when you "top off" the phone for , say, 30 minutes or so and you take it off charge and you see 100%. do understand that one or two cells have a fuller (my word) charge than others.. once the cells equalize, then you will see the tru charge (which will be much much less than 100%)...
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the battery in the EVO (and pretty much every phone evar) is a single cell battery.
you have no idea what your talking about do you?
Hi Guys,
I actually have a HD7m but my dad quite liked the 4.3 inch screen and was now asking me to buy a similar handset. We went out and he was quite impressed with the Desire HD.
But the catch, when I researched online, I found out the battery issue on practically every thread and community.
Now my problem: He is an old man and can get cranky at times. Currently owes a Nokia C6 and is pissed with the touch screen. So is it wise to buy him Desire HD even with the bad battery life?
Or worse case scenario, I swap my HD7 for his Desire HD????
Should I go for it or should can you guys suggest something else equally fluid??
It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
If its battery life your after, buy a Johns Phone, you get 3 weeks between charges.
After you battery has been "run in" and calibrated you will get at least a day with light usage. Remember this is a powerful smartphone.
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Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Thanx so much...that was really helpful...albeit your explanation on battery life, I just wanted to add that he was in love with the 4.3 inch screen...and only HD7 is the other device with that screen size...So I think Desire S is also a good option...let me check with him...
Again, Thanx!
depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Absolutely right. I'm tired of hearing people evangelising that the DHD's battery is fine. It patently is not. Even when you severly rein back the device's features (features which HTC flaunted to get us all hooked), one ends up with 25-30% at the day's end.... And if you have a 'heavy' day of calls/browsing etc, you'll have to top up to get through the day.
But I still regard HTC as just about the best of a bad bunch...
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
I don't Say ! ^^
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depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
Hawks556 said:
That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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If you want to receive emails and text, I find that GSM is fine for that. If you want to go internet browsing, just switch on to 3G.
Smartphones these days have basically a different definition of battery life to the old nokia symbian and similar phones of old. Those could go up to a week. Smartphones on the other hand are considered awesome if they can last 3.
I do have to say ultimately I think HTC sold the battery life a bit short on the DHD. 1230mah I think is really just making way for all the other top-of-the-line features that it had when it came out.
HTC have released a great number of variants of this phone now, all with better iterations of design and also with bigger batteries because of this.
1400-1500mah (or even above) I think is really what you need with a 4.3" display phone. 1230 would be far more acceptable for a <4" display. Although it can be made quite livable for a day or two with an excellent custom rom, I don't really think it's enough for a basic consumer using the standard rom. That and the speaker/audio out are the two biggest pitfalls of the DHD imo.
Sensation is now HTC's newest 4.3" phone which has a good 1500mah battery. I hope Sense 3.0 doesn't wear it down too fast!
Ultimate thoughts: Although it's a great phone, I think it's a power user's phone more than anything. You will definitely only get the best out of it by customising to it's best potential, which is also when you get acceptable battery life. If you don't, it really does seem a waste.
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When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life
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I had the same sort of expectancy out of the battery using it moderately during a day at work out of the box. However with custom ROM installed I have found the battery to last easily the whole day with the same usage and probably have approx 40 - 50% left after 15hrs on battery.
just my 2c
andyharney said:
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I am extremely sorry but I disagree with u completely. You are talking as if you buy an expensive car but dont drive it too much as it eats a lot of fuel. If you want to just drive around, why dont you just get yourself a mopet. The point is, i have bought an expensive car TO DRIVE it around. If I buy a smartphone and not use its SMART features, why am I buying it for??? If I practically shut all the reasons why I bought this phone, WHY the hell am I buying it??
There is an old saying that comes to mind that it takes guts to stay in the minority. If the battery is flawed, ACCEPT it.
Anyways, I have got my answer. Thanx for your reply nonetheless.
As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
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As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
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Hey thanx man...But was just wondering, with very moderate usage, will it still be over in no time?
Also, the other thing worrying me is the memory card issue...I cant afford to lose one card after another once I buy an expensive phone, u know what I mean...
The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
Hawks556 said:
The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
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After receiving a replacement 'new' phone, and having problems with my SD Card from the very second it switched on, I complained to HTC about the issue and the man on the end of the phone admitted around 500,000 phones that had been dispatched has been shipped with KNOWN issues & SD Card incapabilities. If you went out today and bought a brand spanking new card, in theory the phone WOULD NOT and the SD Card WOULD NOT fail.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
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I don't mean to hijack you here mate, but you assume/claim that:
'HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job.'
Well I take it that you assume this on the basis that Leprechauns are real and are roaming New York city as we speak? If HTC were doing any market research at all, they would realize that even devices with smaller screens have a bigger battery than the one they have put into the DhD, including the Desire Z & Desire's batteries?
I remember when I was looking at reviews for the original Desire, as I fancied one, the main complaints were the battery life, and the fact people only got a day's charge on it. So I thought fair do's, big screen, big price to pay? If HTC had done any research, they would have realized that people wanted better battery life, a better quality screen, better sound quality?
You want to know what the real reason is behind HTC putting a small battery inside the Device? Well it's the fact that the entire thing was rushed, and I mean rushed? There's evidence of this in the build quality, the software, the placing of different things within the phone and also the bad batch issues HTC experienced.
The HD was leaked in September/October, it was released by November, this is not normal for any device that becomes 'leaked'. HTC used a bad screen, imported most of the software from the original Desire, obviously making edits to make it Sense 2.0, but you can clearly see they didn't change everything? If you set the Android Pattern Lock Screen, you can see that it doesn't fill the whole screen, the IME is the standard HTC one with some arrows slapped in at the bottom? They didn't even change the size of the keyboard?, this is more evident if you use the IME in landscape mode, its hard.
What sort of company places an Antenna in the Battery Cover? It's true, remove your Battery Cover and you'll loose all signal? Pretty risky move for HTC, seeing as the Battery Cover is VERY easy to 'accidently' break, and frankly your screwed then right? It's like they designed the phone, forgot the Antenna, then quickly though 'Where the f*** is this going?' and decided to place it there? In my opinion, and a few others, they did this with the battery, they made the device too thin, and in reality they just couldn't fit everything in. The Desire S which is slightly thicker, packs a brilliant battery. Problem solved.
The build quality of the phone, is not one of a £500 price tag. Some parts of the phone squeak whereas others just do not feel adequate to the pricing of the device. There again we live in a world where no matter how much you pay, something always seems to be wrong.
Sorry if I have offended any HTC lovers, all attacks on my and opinions against me are welcome, don't get me wrong, I love my phone and I can cope with charging the battery every night. Chao.
hello my phone doesnt last 1 day of charge and it says 40% is due to display/screen can anyone help me?
alvespt said:
hello my phone doesnt last 1 day of charge and it says 40% is due to display/screen can anyone help me?
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You can lower your brightness if it is not already at the lowest setting.
Unfortunately, the galaxy nexus has poor battery life. You could also try turning off data when you don't need it.
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the screen is at lowest and it doesnt make sense turning of data if the problem is from screen right?
I'm having the exact same issue. Screen is totally eating up my battery life. It took 30 minutes for the battery to go down by like 10%. And the screen is 40% of the battery life issue.
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Unfortunately, the galaxy nexus has poor battery life.
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Maybe I just don't use the screen as much as you, but I don't find this to be true for me. I find it has great battery life. I don't sit for hours with the screen on, but I do regularly text and check emails throughout the day, do a bit of web browsing, take some calls, and play some Angry Birds or other games in the evening. The screen is always at the top of the list for battery usage, but even on an extreme day I still have more than 30% battery left by the time I go to bed. I throw it on the charger and I'm ready to go again in the morning.
I disagree that the Galaxy Nexus has poor battery life, in general. I would argue that: all high-end phones have "poor" battery life because of all the things they do (especially 720p screens), your personal use of it consumes a lot of power and you could benefit from an extended battery, or you have a faulty device.
hi there, i do that exact same things with no games, so less usage but i get less than a day... i love the phone but the batery is just no working...
I don't understand why people don't get that when you have a screen that is 4.65'' it will destroy the battery life. My screen use is always at 60% or more but yet I still get good battery life. The screen is going to use the majority of your battery when compared to other things, that's just how it is.
sorry but thats not the point, when you pay 700 for a top phone, that is suposed to be the google experience to carry arround wiith you and you can only get 10 hours of battery time something went wrong in the process...
Most phones are $600 to $700, and name one 4g phone that will last more than 10 hours with moderate use and no extended battery, just not going to happen. You need to reset your expectations.
GN battery is giving lots of trouble, too. I picked up the phone from charge and it was 100% charged. ! hour of usage with 3g on. Usage includes 1 hours or music and reading of pdf books simultaniously and battery is dropped to 61%.
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sorry but thats not the point, when you pay 700 for a top phone, that is suposed to be the google experience to carry arround wiith you and you can only get 10 hours of battery time something went wrong in the process...
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I think you should take a look at every other android phone that has come out with the same specs in the last year. Everything from the EVO 3d to the thunderbolt have their default battery's not last more than around 6-8 hours with constant use because of the screen & processors.
THis is why Verizon offered the extended batteries at a discounted rate right off the bat, because default batteries have never ever lasted that long in topof the line smartphones. FFS the new iphone 4s I've heard from a friend that their phones don't even last 24 hours.
I have a galaxy nexus, and mine has lasted... let me see.. one sec...1 day 3 hours and 25sec's with 35% left. (of course I have the extended battery) but here's the kicker: the extended battery has basically the same back as the regular phone does. so if they so desired, verizon could technically put out another extended battery just like all the rest of the phones, but they might not do that. I'm content with the battery life as it is almost identical as the droid X from which I came. The only difference is since I have a lot of un-updated apps for ice cream sandwich one of them is using "mediaserver" A LOT. I'm talking about that being the top of my battery draining with the screen being second. They both have taken ~20% with android OS itself taking 13, PlayerPro taking 13, and other random things like calls and txt msging taking ~10% each.
So I would suggest not trying to watch a lot of stuff on your phone while on battery, or don't expect your battery to survive long while watching stuff on that great screen
hymn thanks for the feedback so the only solution I see would be to go for a bigger battery. I'm from Portugal were could I buy one and whays the power?
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If your screen usage is less than 50%, it be more worried about what else is killing your battery........