In the story he states that the batter would last four hours? any truth to this? he also explained that there is lag in the sense?
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
Maybe 4 hours of non-stop web browsing with the brightness all the way up while on 4G. Also, I've never had any lag with Sense.
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The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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hmm, alright i mean this is big for a person who is out 24-7. (arnt we all) i wonder if it has to do with anything similar to what the hero had when it was released.
My battery life is not perfect. But people always have this problem. I was a G1 owner and everyone complained about the battery life when it first came out. And then slowly after a mont or two everybody stopped...why? Because the battery life got better with time. From 5 hours or so to 9 or 10 hours.
Then I went to an HD2. The first week I was so scared I had made a huge mistake because the battery would last about 4 or 5 hours. After I did as suggested and let the battery completely burn out and then completely recharge for about three cycles, the HD2 had the best battery I had ever seen. i could use it for 2 days and have 60% left.
Now I have an Evo. And the first stay (with constant use) it died after about 4.5 hours. But I am going through the process of draining and then FULL recharge of 6-8 hours and I'm sure it will be fine.
People think they plug the phone in an hour or two and it says 100% and they have charged it. My opinion is that it takes the battery a while to know what 100% and 0% are on any given battery. After it cycles through a few times it will actually have a true accounting of the battery life, power consumption.
That is all my opinion and experience. I am hoping the EVO has a similar battery life to the HD2. That would be perfect for me.
EDIT: And as for lag....the guy is obviously on crack and just saying stuff to say stuff. I doubt he even has an EVO. He's reading about Sense Lag on the HD2 which there was some) and passing that information on. Anyone who actually HAS an evo have any lag? I think not.
And if he thinks an iPhone 3GS in ANY way blows the EVO out of the water...he is obviously lying. I mean based on feature set alone. There is no way the iphone can browse as fast (4G...hello), operate as fast (gee isn't that processor almost twice as fast), take better pictures? No. Have a front facing cam? No. Oh yeah...that screen size on the iPhone sure is better than the EVO. WTF?
Some people's kids.
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My battery life is not perfect. But people always have this problem. I was a G1 owner and everyone complained about the battery life when it first came out. And then slowly after a mont or two everybody stopped...why? Because the battery life got better with time. From 5 hours or so to 9 or 10 hours.
Then I went to an HD2. The first week I was so scared I had made a huge mistake because the battery would last about 4 or 5 hours. After I did as suggested and let the battery completely burn out and then completely recharge for about three cycles, the HD2 had the best battery I had ever seen. i could use it for 2 days and have 60% left.
Now I have an Evo. And the first stay (with constant use) it died after about 4.5 hours. But I am going through the process of draining and then FULL recharge of 6-8 hours and I'm sure it will be fine.
People think they plug the phone in an hour or two and it says 100% and they have charged it. My opinion is that it takes the battery a while to know what 100% and 0% are on any given battery. After it cycles through a few times it will actually have a true accounting of the battery life, power consumption.
That is all my opinion and experience. I am hoping the EVO has a similar battery life to the HD2. That would be perfect for me.
EDIT: And as for lag....the guy is obviously on crack and just saying stuff to say stuff. I doubt he even has an EVO. He's reading about Sense Lag on the HD2 which there was some) and passing that information on. Anyone who actually HAS an evo have any lag? I think not.
And if he thinks an iPhone 3GS in ANY way blows the EVO out of the water...he is obviously lying. I mean based on feature set alone. There is no way the iphone can browse as fast (4G...hello), operate as fast (gee isn't that processor almost twice as fast), take better pictures? No. Have a front facing cam? No. Oh yeah...that screen size on the iPhone sure is better than the EVO. WTF?
Some people's kids.
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I understand what you are saying. That was the only reason i am worried about buying an EVO. This author must have had all the applications syncing every 15 minutes. I have an apple itouch not sure how close the phone and this thing is but I like it. It is smooth and quick. (buts its not a phone). When it comes to android... Its about the experience that comes with it.
But this guy is positively being paid off haha
The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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With light usage I had 36% remaining after 14 hours the other day. I think you just need to give the battery time to get adjusted. However, I have noticed that it seems to drain faster from 100-80% than it does from 80-50%.
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With light usage I had 36% remaining after 14 hours the other day. I think you just need to give the battery time to get adjusted. However, I have noticed that it seems to drain faster from 100-80% than it does from 80-50%.
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Well I actually just recently noticed the same about my iPhone 3G. The first 10-15% go really fast.
My evo seems to do pretty good with the battery I can go the whole day without needing a charge but I do charge it when I get home. When I'm using it for games all day it drains pretty quick but at those time I plug it in... I don't know what they expect when your rocking a 1ghz processor, a 4.3 inch screen, and about every type of network connection you can fit in a phone... as far as lag goes on this phone I notice very little mainly when I'm installing like 3 or 4 apps at once... compared to my hero this thing is a rocket! And once Android 2.2 is put on here this thing will be smoking.
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My Evo lasts for 8-9 hours. That's 70% idle with screen off. Cell Standby at 40+% is killing my battery.
My motorola droid in the same time still has over 50% charge. There's no question that the Evo is a battery drainer for whatever reason.
hate to say it, but once a fan boy always a fan boy. I used to have a win-mo device (touch pro) and i like it, then i moved up (should i say downgraded) to the instinct- worst decision ever. than i used the android platform on my hero. I'd have to say its leaps and bounds easier than win-mo.. My brother has an iPhone which i always play with when he comes over, and i think its a really easy interface to play with.. thats all. The speeds at which apps were open weren't any better than my hero. I also opened up maps on his phone and mine, and my location was dead on with the hero, the iPhone was 100meters. LOL.
But everyone needs to try other stuff out and make there own decisions, dont let someone who is obviously a fan boy tell you whats good and bad.
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The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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thats ur prob ur using bluetooth it will use more battery and then ur playing the podcast at the same time any phone u do that on u will use more battery
the battery technology is a few years old. the cpu is 1ghz.. the phone is sniffing 3g/4g/wifi/bt plus the shiny screen and backlight all use power. the battery technology being used in this state of the art phone is not advancing as fast as the phones are...
the reason the top ~10% of the charge goes so quickly is due to the you taking the phone off charge.. the cells in Li-ION batteries are not created equal. some cells will get a stronger/longer charge than other cells. once you take the battery off charge, the cells that are stronger in charge than the others will feed that extra charge to those other cells, so your battery charge will fall down to around 90 or so pretty quickly out the gate.. from there the cells are all stable and equally charged and stay at a constant discharge rate for about ~87% to about ~55%.
once the charge falls below 55% the cells really start to lose their charge and the battery curve drops drastically.
when you "top off" the phone for , say, 30 minutes or so and you take it off charge and you see 100%. do understand that one or two cells have a fuller (my word) charge than others.. once the cells equalize, then you will see the tru charge (which will be much much less than 100%)...
I'll post my findings here although probably no one will believe me. I'm not a fanboi since i've phones on three carriers.
My EVO will lose 2% per hour sitting idle which is fantastic. My HD2 loses approx. the same amount, maybe a little less.
I've found the EVO to be no more power hungry than any "superphone" i've used including the iphone 3gs.
signal strength also plays a part
one thought based on my experience with a palm pre and htc hero: signal strength.
My office has very low signal strength (1 bar or less). The battery seems to drain quite fast here. If I'm somewhere else with good signal, my battery lasts much longer. Same battery drain if you're going in and out of evdo / 1Rxx.
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My battery life is like all the other phones i had lately (see my sig).
No more, no less.
I have to say my battery is getting better with going through a couple full charges, as for lag nope none not here
“Phone idle,” and “Android system” that eat up over 75% of the life.
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LMAO, the fact that he wrote that puts severe doubt in his skills to review an android phone.
I can't believe this thread is going on seeing as that's an Apple Fanboy site. Will say anything to make his Iphone sound like the best thing ever. He lost all credibility when he said the Nexus One and Incredible were better phones.
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the battery technology is a few years old. the cpu is 1ghz.. the phone is sniffing 3g/4g/wifi/bt plus the shiny screen and backlight all use power. the battery technology being used in this state of the art phone is not advancing as fast as the phones are...
the reason the top ~10% of the charge goes so quickly is due to the you taking the phone off charge.. the cells in Li-ION batteries are not created equal. some cells will get a stronger/longer charge than other cells. once you take the battery off charge, the cells that are stronger in charge than the others will feed that extra charge to those other cells, so your battery charge will fall down to around 90 or so pretty quickly out the gate.. from there the cells are all stable and equally charged and stay at a constant discharge rate for about ~87% to about ~55%.
once the charge falls below 55% the cells really start to lose their charge and the battery curve drops drastically.
when you "top off" the phone for , say, 30 minutes or so and you take it off charge and you see 100%. do understand that one or two cells have a fuller (my word) charge than others.. once the cells equalize, then you will see the tru charge (which will be much much less than 100%)...
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the battery in the EVO (and pretty much every phone evar) is a single cell battery.
you have no idea what your talking about do you?
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I see a lot of people constantly talking about battery life on here and how they are disappointed by what they are seeing from ROMs, kernels, or the OTA release.
I'm interested to see exactly what sort of expectations people have on the lifetime of their phone.
I've been fairly cognizant of my phone's power consumption and have done a lot to ensure I understand how I use it and what effect that has on its life between charges.
I understand that a first generation phone with the largest screen, the fastest processor available, the most processor intensive camera, with animated wallpapers, synchronization to various web services, flash, and borderline experimental next-generation wireless connectivity that can tether to multiple devices. To have all that on a unit marginally larger than my old Palm Pre and roughly the same battery size (1150mAh stock) is going to come with some compromises.
I tend to overclock, ROM flash, and beat the snot out of my phone on a regular basis. Therefore, I have a super gigantic Seidio battery that I absolutely adore. I found that even before that, I was able to get my battery life under control if I controlled my phone properly, so I'm not sure what the problem is.
Did some people just get bad phones? Are some people just being unrealistic with their expectations? What goals do you think people should be setting for the lifetime of their phone between charges?
Its an honest question.
I used to get almost a week out of an old motorola flip style phone (v500 something).
Everything since then has been downhill.
I'm not under the false impression that these new phones are going to last as long as the older "dumb" phones, BUT.....Id like to be able to get through the day without charging my phone. I keep my screen about 40% brightness, I'm usually in an area with good reception, I only sync my Gmail, I've calibrated my battery, etc. The only real USE my phone gets is texting. I unplug my phone at 5am and its more than half gone by noon. Not real great IMO.
I think this will provide valuable insight as to expectations for this phone. Personally I have used smartphones since I can remember and I was bread to expect a nightly charge.
It may be unacceptable to some that we have to "mod" our phones to get reasonable battery life, but I really dont have too many complaints. Out of the box, the EVO is running a 1gz processor and powering a 4.3" display. Not to mention if you're running wifi and various apps. I think some people are just expecting too much from these phones. Look at laptops. When my dell was brand new, I could get 2-3 hours of steady use before it conked out. The battery life our phones are getting, modded or stock, isnt really that bad. If you're unwilling to do some research and easy mods or buy a spare $20 OEM battery off eBay please dont complain about it.
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I think this will provide valuable insight as to expectations for this phone. Personally I have used smartphones since I can remember and I was bread to expect a nightly charge.
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A nightly charge is acceptable. It's when you have to charge 2-3 times a day from moderate usage that is a little out of hand... Understandable that with heavier usage, more frequent charges would be needed.
Wat kernel is best for saving battery life.. i use CM6 NB
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Wat kernel is best for saving battery life.. i use CM6 NB
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Off Topic.
I want to power a small village from my phone please
I want my phone to last a day. And call a typical day something like:
- l/2-1 hour talk
- 12-24 text messages
- 45 minutes - 2 hours web browsing
- 2 hours music
My iPhone 3GS would do this without a problem, my wife's iPhone 4 might do 2 days like this. The EVO just barely does this.
But.. I prefer the EVO for enough reasons I just dropped $10 for 2 extra batteries and a phone-less charger on ebay, and keep chargers in the car and at my desk, and get it plugged in for like 30 minutes somewhere during the day. I rarely use the backup batteries, but it is nice to have them.
Totally worth it for a bigger screen, 4G, more open OS.
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I want my phone to last a day. And call a typical day something like:
- l/2-1 hour talk
- 12-24 text messages
- 45 minutes - 2 hours web browsing
- 2 hours music
My iPhone 3GS would do this without a problem, my wife's iPhone 4 might do 2 days like this. The EVO just barely does this.
But.. I prefer the EVO for enough reasons I just dropped $10 for 2 extra batteries and a phone-less charger on ebay, and keep chargers in the car and at my desk, and get it plugged in for like 30 minutes somewhere during the day. I rarely use the backup batteries, but it is nice to have them.
Totally worth it for a bigger screen, 4G, more open OS.
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This definitely sounds doable. If you aren't getting that out of your phone, I'd reccomend calling support. I'm going to assume your dedication has already lead you down your own troubleshooting path.
My standard was set with my BlackBerry: less than 5% discharge rate per hour under normal use, and I am happy.
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I've read on many reviews (Gizmodo, Engadget, CNet, etc) that the battery on the DInc is not that great, but mine is incredibly... bad. Examples:
I browse the web (mostly mobile websites with not many images, flash etc) for ~20 mins and battery life decreases by 20%
I leave the phone ON overnight without charging and it's at 2% in the morning. When I went to sleep it was at 60%
I turn the phone OFF overnight without charging and it dies (I couldn't turn it on, had to charge for 15 mins even to turn on). When I went to sleep it was at 30%
I've also heard both that ATK is useless and that it's a gift from God for battery life. I'm running the Pro version killing every 30min and it's not helping that much (maybe 30 mins)
Is my battery defective, or are other users also experiencing this bad of battery life? My DInc is SLCD, running UberZ RC1.2 with stock battery.
Im guessing you havent had your incredible for more than five months right? Considering htc didnt start making them until the late summer. Anyways I do know that desire z ports often use up quite a bit of battery in their displays. However considering you left it on overnight and it was nearly dead I dont think it was that. Something you can try is going in the advanced menu on clockwork mod and erasing battery stats. This seems more like a defective battery though. New batteries can be bought for fairly cheap and if you do decide to get a new one you can get them for pretty cheap. Touchpro 2 batteries supposedly work with the incredible as well
Make sure you turn off GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc. when not in use.
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Im guessing you havent had your incredible for more than five months right? Considering htc didnt start making them until the late summer. Anyways I do know that desire z ports often use up quite a bit of battery in their displays. However considering you left it on overnight and it was nearly dead I dont think it was that. Something you can try is going in the advanced menu on clockwork mod and erasing battery stats. This seems more like a defective battery though. New batteries can be bought for fairly cheap and if you do decide to get a new one you can get them for pretty cheap. Touchpro 2 batteries supposedly work with the incredible as well
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Yeah, I've had it for about a month. I will reply after erasing battery stats and trying it out. I'm not sure that I would use a Touch Pro 2 battery - seems like too much of a risk. However, I have seen Evo Batteries on Amazon that supposedly work with the Dinc. Do they?
If it helps, I use widget locker, with: extended controls, fancy widget, nexus revamped (with a lot of spawns on slow) and 3 sliders.
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Make sure you turn off GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc. when not in use.
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I have, I barely use BT or GPS so they're almost always off. I only turn GPS on when I'm charging and I'm using location based apps. 3G is off at home and Wifi is off on the road / at school and when I'm not using the phone.
What you might want to try doing is uninstalling widget locker and charging your phone all the way up. If after uninstalling widget locker the drain is still significant it may be the battery. And from what I read, the evo battery works with the incredible, it just makes the back cover fit a bit more tight.
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What you might want to try doing is uninstalling widget locker and charging your phone all the way up. If after uninstalling widget locker the drain is still significant it may be the battery. And from what I read, the evo battery works with the incredible, it just makes the back cover fit a bit more tight.
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OK, I've wiped battery stats, though it's only been a few mins so I can't tell yet. I'll reply in a couple of days. Also, can I just disable WidgetLocker instead of uninstalling it?
I also have a silicone case that hooks on the front edges, will an Evo Innocell (with back cover) mess with that?
I dont think an evo back cover would work for the incredible as they are not the same dimensions.
And btw touchpro 2 battery will work with the incredible
http://androidforums.com/incredible-accessories/72006-fyi-touch-pro-2-battery-works-incredible.html
Heres one for $5 if youre thinking about it.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.35632
I just moved to an Incredible from my Droid 1 and the battery life is horrible compared... I got it as a replacement for having so many issues with my Droid but the battery life is almost unusable I'm running CM 6.1 and I wiped my battery stats, drained the battery then let it charge overnight powered off and I still get really bad life... I think a lot of it may have to do with the stock 1300mAh battery compared to the Droid having 1500mAh but I'm not sure... I'm considering the 3500mAh sedio battery but $70 bucks is a bit steep atm
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I dont think an evo back cover would work for the incredible as they are not the same dimensions.
And btw touchpro 2 battery will work with the incredible
Heres one for $5 if youre thinking about it.
Thanks for the great find, though I was thinking about maybe one of those seidio 3500's. Though since it's so cheap, I'll probably buy it
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I just moved to an Incredible from my Droid 1 and the battery life is horrible compared... I got it as a replacement for having so many issues with my Droid but the battery life is almost unusable I'm running CM 6.1 and I wiped my battery stats, drained the battery then let it charge overnight powered off and I still get really bad life... I think a lot of it may have to do with the stock 1300mAh battery compared to the Droid having 1500mAh but I'm not sure... I'm considering the 3500mAh sedio battery but $70 bucks is a bit steep atm
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I've seen one on amazon for ~$25. Not seidio though. Reviews were meh.
I don't think its the 1300 mah vs 1500 mah. That's less than 20% (so like 10 hrs vs 12 hrs).
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Didnt see the part about disabling widget locker, sorry.
Yes you probably can disable it just make sure it is definitely not running.
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I've read on many reviews (Gizmodo, Engadget, CNet, etc) that the battery on the DInc is not that great, but mine is incredibly... bad. Examples:
I browse the web (mostly mobile websites with not many images, flash etc) for ~20 mins and battery life decreases by 20%
I leave the phone ON overnight without charging and it's at 2% in the morning. When I went to sleep it was at 60%
I turn the phone OFF overnight without charging and it dies (I couldn't turn it on, had to charge for 15 mins even to turn on). When I went to sleep it was at 30%
I've also heard both that ATK is useless and that it's a gift from God for battery life. I'm running the Pro version killing every 30min and it's not helping that much (maybe 30 mins)
Is my battery defective, or are other users also experiencing this bad of battery life? My DInc is SLCD, running UberZ RC1.2 with stock battery.
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Don't run ATK. Android manages apps by itself. There's a whole lifehacker article on it.
Sounds like a run-away app.
Hmm, turn your screen off and let your phone sit for 5 mintues. Go into Settings > About Phone > Battery > Compare uptime vs awake. They should be AT LEAST 5 minutes apart.
If they're not, go to the market and install "Watchdog Task Manager" (<--this is NOT the same as ATK, again, lifehacker article on it) to monitor rouge apps.
Hope this helps!
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Don't run ATK. Android manages apps by itself. There's a whole lifehacker article on it.
Sounds like a run-away app.
Hmm, turn your screen off and let your phone sit for 5 mintues. Go into Settings > About Phone > Battery > Compare uptime vs awake. They should be AT LEAST 5 minutes apart.
If they're not, go to the market and install "Watchdog Task Manager" (<--this is NOT the same as ATK, again, lifehacker article on it) to monitor rouge apps.
Hope this helps!
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My phone has been sitting and charging for ~2 hours, but up - awake = 5:12. Is it normal?
Great work, by the way.
There is no normal.
Up time is the elapsed time since you turned your phone on. (i.e. after the phone was completely off, not just screen off/sleep mode).
Awake time is suppose to only be the time your phone was actively being used (i.e. screen on).
So, Up time minus Awake time should equal the time your screen has been off, (i.e. asleep).
If Up time and Awake time are equal, and you've had the screen turned off (i.e. asleep) for part of that time, then you have some app that's staying active durning sleep mode.
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There is no normal.
Up time is the elapsed time since you turned your phone on. (i.e. after the phone was completely off, not just screen off/sleep mode).
Awake time is suppose to only be the time your phone was actively being used (i.e. screen on).
So, Up time minus Awake time should equal the time your screen has been off, (i.e. asleep).
If Up time and Awake time are equal, and you've had the screen turned off (i.e. asleep) for part of that time, then you have some app that's staying active durning sleep mode.
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I might reboot when I go to sleep tonight and do nothing on the phone, then check uptime vs awake when I wake up.
1300 Mah battery is not acceptable for a phone of this caliber. There are alternative options for battery's. I use setcpu to underclock the proc and I've seen a dramatic increase in battery life.
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1300 Mah battery is not acceptable for a phone of this caliber. There are alternative options for battery's. I use setcpu to underclock the proc and I've seen a dramatic increase in battery life.
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I've been using Setcpu as well, with 998 mhz while charging, 245 when screen off, 245-520 when hot or <20%, and 245-850 otherwise.
Agreed about the battery, HTC and VW probably want to force you to spend more on extended batteries.
Too bad, otherwise it'd be a perfect phone.
HTC usually seems to skimp on the battery. It really hurts their reviews but I suppose they can save costs and assume people can always buy an aftermarket battery. I don't agree with it but it's their business.
Anyway, that does sound like abnormally bad battery life, but I have a question - are you in a poor service area? If so, the radio might be working extra hard to acquire a signal. Even when I had my dumb phone Samsung alias (which had decent dumbphone battery life) I would experience complete battery drain if I left it in my poor coverage basement overnight.
Also, when you're browsing the web and such do you use wifi or 3g? I notice that when I continuously surf with 3g the phone starts to get warm, especially in mid-poor coverage areas. When the phone gets hot the battery gets hot, and when the battery gets hot it drains much much quicker. Of course, high power usage generates more heat so I'm inclined to believe our 3g radio consumes way more battery than our wifi radio.
Over the months I've combatted poor battery life by doing the following:
1. Purchase aftermarket batteries. I've fallen into HTC's trap. I bought an evo battery which can last me of 6-7 hours of wifi awake time and 4-5 hours of 3g awake time. I also purchased the extended 2150 battery from Verizon which I can get up to 10 hours of wifi surfing and 5-6 hours of 3g surfing. Back when I was on stock 1300 I would get 3-4 hours wifi surfing and 2-3 hours 3g surfing.
2. Install an undervolted kernel, if you're into that sorta thing. One of the main reasons I'm able to obtain the numbers above is due to my kernel which undervolts the processor. I use adrynalyne's experimental undervolted kernel and it works without a hitch. I use it in conjunction with setcpu so I can have a screen off profile which underclocks the processor to 128-384MHz while I'm not using it. The only caveat to using this kernel is you can only use the conservative CPU governor. This means lower clocked speeds will be preferred as the CPU actively scales itself, and will take longer to ramp up to the higher speeds. But we're talking about maximizing battery life so that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
3. Try to keep screen brightness down, minimize usage of other radios (Bluetooth, GPS). Sounds like you already do this though. Rogue apps have also been discussed but if awake time != uptime then that's usually not the case.
As also prevoiously mentioned, it is possible you have a defective battery and should go about getting a new one from them though I'm not sure how that process goes... someone here is bound to know though.
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HTC usually seems to skimp on the battery. It really hurts their reviews but I suppose they can save costs and assume people can always buy an aftermarket battery. I don't agree with it but it's their business.
Anyway, that does sound like abnormally bad battery life, but I have a question - are you in a poor service area? If so, the radio might be working extra hard to acquire a signal. Even when I had my dumb phone Samsung alias (which had decent dumbphone battery life) I would experience complete battery drain if I left it in my poor coverage basement overnight.
Also, when you're browsing the web and such do you use wifi or 3g? I notice that when I continuously surf with 3g the phone starts to get warm, especially in mid-poor coverage areas. When the phone gets hot the battery gets hot, and when the battery gets hot it drains much much quicker. Of course, high power usage generates more heat so I'm inclined to believe our 3g radio consumes way more battery than our wifi radio.
Over the months I've combatted poor battery life by doing the following:
1. Purchase aftermarket batteries. I've fallen into HTC's trap. I bought an evo battery which can last me of 6-7 hours of wifi awake time and 4-5 hours of 3g awake time. I also purchased the extended 2150 battery from Verizon which I can get up to 10 hours of wifi surfing and 5-6 hours of 3g surfing. Back when I was on stock 1300 I would get 3-4 hours wifi surfing and 2-3 hours 3g surfing.
2. Install an undervolted kernel, if you're into that sorta thing. One of the main reasons I'm able to obtain the numbers above is due to my kernel which undervolts the processor. I use adrynalyne's experimental undervolted kernel and it works without a hitch. I use it in conjunction with setcpu so I can have a screen off profile which underclocks the processor to 128-384MHz while I'm not using it. The only caveat to using this kernel is you can only use the conservative CPU governor. This means lower clocked speeds will be preferred as the CPU actively scales itself, and will take longer to ramp up to the higher speeds. But we're talking about maximizing battery life so that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
3. Try to keep screen brightness down, minimize usage of other radios (Bluetooth, GPS). Sounds like you already do this though. Rogue apps have also been discussed but if awake time != uptime then that's usually not the case.
As also prevoiously mentioned, it is possible you have a defective battery and should go about getting a new one from them though I'm not sure how that process goes... someone here is bound to know though.
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My signal is 3 to 4 bars on a 4 bar meter. Can you recommend a good undervolting Sense kernel?
Temp >50c 499/245
Screen off 245/245
Charge/full 998/245
Batt { 25 460/245
Batt [ 50 998/245
Batt{ 100 998/245
All are set to ondemand except charge is perfomance. Looking at this its nothing special but I do get a good charge from this setup
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pianoplayer said:
My signal is 3 to 4 bars on a 4 bar meter. Can you recommend a good undervolting Sense kernel?
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I definitely stand behind adrynalyne's experimental undervolted. You can find a link in the kernel thread on the android development section of this board. He makes a sense and AOSP version. I've tried some of the newer ones like Chad's but I love the longevity and stability of adrynalyne's too much to live with the switch. As aforementioned, if you decide to use setcpu, make sure to only use the conservative governer. Ondemand will cause it to freeze! Otherwise it's rock solid.
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hello my phone doesnt last 1 day of charge and it says 40% is due to display/screen can anyone help me?
alvespt said:
hello my phone doesnt last 1 day of charge and it says 40% is due to display/screen can anyone help me?
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You can lower your brightness if it is not already at the lowest setting.
Unfortunately, the galaxy nexus has poor battery life. You could also try turning off data when you don't need it.
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the screen is at lowest and it doesnt make sense turning of data if the problem is from screen right?
I'm having the exact same issue. Screen is totally eating up my battery life. It took 30 minutes for the battery to go down by like 10%. And the screen is 40% of the battery life issue.
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Unfortunately, the galaxy nexus has poor battery life.
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Maybe I just don't use the screen as much as you, but I don't find this to be true for me. I find it has great battery life. I don't sit for hours with the screen on, but I do regularly text and check emails throughout the day, do a bit of web browsing, take some calls, and play some Angry Birds or other games in the evening. The screen is always at the top of the list for battery usage, but even on an extreme day I still have more than 30% battery left by the time I go to bed. I throw it on the charger and I'm ready to go again in the morning.
I disagree that the Galaxy Nexus has poor battery life, in general. I would argue that: all high-end phones have "poor" battery life because of all the things they do (especially 720p screens), your personal use of it consumes a lot of power and you could benefit from an extended battery, or you have a faulty device.
hi there, i do that exact same things with no games, so less usage but i get less than a day... i love the phone but the batery is just no working...
I don't understand why people don't get that when you have a screen that is 4.65'' it will destroy the battery life. My screen use is always at 60% or more but yet I still get good battery life. The screen is going to use the majority of your battery when compared to other things, that's just how it is.
sorry but thats not the point, when you pay 700 for a top phone, that is suposed to be the google experience to carry arround wiith you and you can only get 10 hours of battery time something went wrong in the process...
Most phones are $600 to $700, and name one 4g phone that will last more than 10 hours with moderate use and no extended battery, just not going to happen. You need to reset your expectations.
GN battery is giving lots of trouble, too. I picked up the phone from charge and it was 100% charged. ! hour of usage with 3g on. Usage includes 1 hours or music and reading of pdf books simultaniously and battery is dropped to 61%.
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sorry but thats not the point, when you pay 700 for a top phone, that is suposed to be the google experience to carry arround wiith you and you can only get 10 hours of battery time something went wrong in the process...
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I think you should take a look at every other android phone that has come out with the same specs in the last year. Everything from the EVO 3d to the thunderbolt have their default battery's not last more than around 6-8 hours with constant use because of the screen & processors.
THis is why Verizon offered the extended batteries at a discounted rate right off the bat, because default batteries have never ever lasted that long in topof the line smartphones. FFS the new iphone 4s I've heard from a friend that their phones don't even last 24 hours.
I have a galaxy nexus, and mine has lasted... let me see.. one sec...1 day 3 hours and 25sec's with 35% left. (of course I have the extended battery) but here's the kicker: the extended battery has basically the same back as the regular phone does. so if they so desired, verizon could technically put out another extended battery just like all the rest of the phones, but they might not do that. I'm content with the battery life as it is almost identical as the droid X from which I came. The only difference is since I have a lot of un-updated apps for ice cream sandwich one of them is using "mediaserver" A LOT. I'm talking about that being the top of my battery draining with the screen being second. They both have taken ~20% with android OS itself taking 13, PlayerPro taking 13, and other random things like calls and txt msging taking ~10% each.
So I would suggest not trying to watch a lot of stuff on your phone while on battery, or don't expect your battery to survive long while watching stuff on that great screen
hymn thanks for the feedback so the only solution I see would be to go for a bigger battery. I'm from Portugal were could I buy one and whays the power?
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If your screen usage is less than 50%, it be more worried about what else is killing your battery........
I see countless comments with people complaining about battery life not being good enough in most threads, and it being affected positively/negatively by updates.
I'm aware a lot of ROMs can have a very positive effect on battery life but I am more interested in the general overview – your battery life's life if you will! The reason I ask for your experiences is that I would like to qualitatively collect a bit of information from a fair few people and see what's to be seen.
It's worth noting that my latest HOX's battery life is exceptional and I believe it's down to a simple life/career change. It's really nothing new to someone who knows their fair share about batteries however I would be interested to compare.
So, list the times you wake up, take your phone off charge, put your phone back on charge, and go to sleep. If you can it would also be nice to know what your battery percentage is at certain points. It would also be interesting to know what hours you do on an average working week and in what sort of work environment (home/architect, office/marketing, shop/clothes retail etc).
If anyone can remember the things off the top of your head, even rough estimates just chuck then in the thread. I will then compare them all to my own personal habits.
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Personally for me ICS was 4.0.4 was perfect, after update to JB it's really bad. On ICS i was loosing 1% of my battery during whole night on JB i can even loose 10% ; d. Overall battery drains faster during usage... all stock.
There's already a thread for battery stats.
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There's already a thread for battery stats.
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Fantastic. I'm more interested in people's actual habits not stats about their battery because it only tells one half of the story. Like I mentioned this is more of a qualitative approach, so less battery stats.
I should of assumed that most people would be like more yourself so I will get straight to the point.
I have the benefit of working at home which means I can charge my phone whenever. I'm not forced to charge it over night; having it over charging for excessive amounts of time. I charge mine in the day and as a result I'm conscious when it hits 100% – I then unplug it. Other than natural degradation, I doubt I have ever damaged my battery in any way which has left me with a great battery life.
I was quite interested if most people charge their phones at night, go to sleep, unplug their phones when they wake up etc. This will severely accelerate the degradation of the battery.
well for me, ICS was bad...im using custom rom and various kernel to see which has the best battery life...all bad accept ncx 0.99....well some of the time its ok but some not...the battery percentage in ICS if not using will stay at 1% but for a 5 minute use, it will drop 10%...but amazingly, if you keep using in screen on, wifi or whatever, it will not drop that fast, well for me its ok....but now i have updated to JB still in stock, and the battery life is great.. i have watch HD movie using MX player in 2 hour and only drop 20%....when in ICS about 80%...big difference....i think stock kernel is best...
Well for me it's decent i mean yes it could be better but it's okay... heres my usage: i take it off the charge around 10 am when i wake up or so and it's off the charge till the next day morning with avarage 45-50% battery left and screan on time avarage 2:30 hours - 3 hours, sync with FB , hotmail and weather is On all the time as well is the wi-fi even when i sleep, my reception aint so great tho , around 2-3 bars top 4, 2g network, anyway my tops on the screan time would be around 6 hours with around 30% brightness idk how that guy managed to achive 6hours 20 mins on a single charge on medium brightness , could be jelly bean or maybe partitial charges ( i'm on ics btw ), anyway hox battery aint so bad as ppl may think, besides if you're lucky enough you'll get hox + battery into your hox ( 2100 ma ) which should provide avarage 6 hours + screan on time, tho i bet we could get around 8 with that battery. Hope this helps.
Ive got arhd and i got to say Im happy with my battery life, first I wasnt, when I went through a couple of charge cycles it got better and better. Now I can do 3.5 hours on screen time playing games and use it for atleast 24 hours with a mix of everything with watching videos to on the bus lol. So mines has been really good.
Battery has been pretty bad on any ROM. Now that I have ICJ421, my battery is near perfect. Yesterday I got 14h with 3h22m Screen On time.
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I think the batter is the weak link in this phone. Actually, I think it was that in my Note 4 too. After a good year, my phone started bootlooping and it was the battery's fault. I am not too confident in Samsung's batterys, not because of explosions but because they seem to be not the best. The problem is, if we want to change Note 7's battery, it will have to be done at the service center. So I'd like to keep the battery in good condition for as long as possible.
I have read it is best to avoid fast charging. I also read it is best to keep the charge between 40-80% and not let it charge over night. And to only let it drain to 0 and charge to 100 once a month to recalibrate it.
Do you guys think these are good tips for the Note 7?
I also read that first time I should have let it chargefor 5 hours, which I didn't first mistake there? Thanks everyone.
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I think the batter is the weak link in this phone. Actually, I think it was that in my Note 4 too. After a good year, my phone started bootlooping and it was the battery's fault. I am not too confident in Samsung's batterys, not because of explosions but because they seem to be not the best. The problem is, if we want to change Note 7's battery, it will have to be done at the service center. So I'd like to keep the battery in good condition for as long as possible.
I have read it is best to avoid fast charging. I also read it is best to keep the charge between 40-80% and not let it charge over night. And to only let it drain to 0 and charge to 100 once a month to recalibrate it.
Do you guys think these are good tips for the Note 7?
I also read that first time I should have let it chargefor 5 hours, which I didn't first mistake there? Thanks everyone.
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From what I have researched from chemical engineers who design batteries etc the best thing to do is not allow the battery to discharge below 20% and not charge it over 90%. Fast charging apparently does shorten battery life but all charging methods shorten battery life. All about heat, so they say? In 'normal use', whatever that is, a typical mobile battery could last years?
In thinking about this I have owned since the early 80's maybe over 100 mobile phones and 100 other mobile devices and have never replaced a battery yet? I have friends and family still using some of my hand me downs and they are still going strong.
Appears a very hit and miss science?
Ryland
I am pretty sure I count as a normal user. I also don't think I exposed the Note 4 to too much heat or did terribly stupid things with the battery. Did I just get a bad one, maybe.
It sounds to me that you've been paying too much attention to the battery, stop worrying and you'll enjoy the phone even more.
never let the batt go to 0%, charge max at 90%, thats all you can do, and, dont worry too much, enjoy your note 7
This is off of Samsung site...
Cell phones, originally used for little more than calls and text messages, have evolved into all-in-one entertainment devices. Your smartphone plays videos, music and games, and many include lightning-fast Web browsing and a robust app library. Use these features for more than a few hours, though, and your phone's battery charge may not last longer than a day. You can coax more life out of your phone by charging the battery correctly and tweaking a few power-hungry settings.
Charge Regularly
To get the most out of your smartphone's battery, you'll need to charge it properly. Most smartphones have a lithium-ion battery that lives longer when charged regularly. Unlike the nickel batteries used in older phones, lithium-ion batteries do best when kept above a 50 percent charge. Repeatedly allowing the battery to drain fully may shorten its life and decrease its overall capacity. If this happens, you'll need to charge the battery more frequently and it may last only a few hours before needing a charge, for example.
Your battery will also perform better if you don't let it charge to 100 percent, so take it off the charger at about 80 to 90 percent capacity. Leaving the phone connected to the charger when the phone is completely charged may lower battery life if you do it repeatedly.
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I've researched this and tested it for myself not saying this is the answer. I use to go 100 to zero with note 3 trying to see how far I could go screen on time. Biggest mistake I've read from Samsung and makers of lith batteries to not let it go below 60 amd it's ok to top it off as often as possible. Leaving on charger doesn't effect them due to them never fully charging they trickle charge my wife does this every night with note 4 no issues same battery for a year. You get 500 cycles of charge if you deplete 100 to zero it makes the battery unstable when hitting zero lith don't like it. You get 2500 cycles if you do the 75 to 100. I've topped off my note 7 every day lowest going to 60. I play music for 3 hours walking outside only lose 2 percent of battery. Using hotspot I lose 5 percent in a few hours all been the same the way i charge. I had 2 other note 7s I did the opposite. In a week I would lose 20 40 percent battery with hotspot music not as good either. Learn the mechanics other the battery how they work wiki it. Look at the science not opinions or articles. That helped me in the long run. I keep a Poweradd Apollo with me just in case.
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Well if Samsung put that info on their page it really about says it all.
Back to stationary phones I guess. I don't want to have to take this phone to the service centre in ten months or so.
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Well if Samsung put that info on their page it really about says it all.
Back to stationary phones I guess. I don't want to have to take this phone to the service centre in ten months or so.
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Have you read the replies here?
No device can go forever without an eventual battery change. As I said I have owned hundreds of mobile devices spanning FOUR DECADES and have never replaced a battery.
How did you arrive at a 10 month replacement figure?
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Yes, mostly they don't agree with you . And ten month figure from my experience with Note 4. At 10 months it started being weak, then after a few more months, bootlooping started and it was just because of battery. I love Notes but just don't think they have good batteris to begin with.
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Yes, mostly they don't agree with you . And ten month figure from my experience with Note 4. At 10 months it started being weak, then after a good year, bootlooping started and it was just because of battery.
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If you have a doubt regarding a mobile don't buy it especially an uber one like the Note 7 etc. If you are very concerned about battery and its going to cause you worry go for a brand with removable battery. No one can asses how you use your phone and how long the battery will live.
Sounds like you had a bad experience with your previous mobile and that has caused you some anxiety. All one can do is relate our experiences to you and hope you can make a judgement call based on others opinions?
I have zero reason to suspect the battery life of the Note 7 to be any weaker than my previous mobile devices. Only time will tell. The battery on my crystal ball needs charging.
I wish you well.
Ryland
I got 20 months wifh my note 4 wireless charging overnight.
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I gave my son my note 3 when I got the note 4, the note 3 is now almost 3 years old, and the batt is still reliable, not as when new, but very dependable
I try to plug in my phone when the battery hits 40% and charge it up to 80%. I dont get to strictly follow it but that's the best way to preserve battery life/performance
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I want to know ...
Note 7 supports Quick Charge 3.0 or 2.0 or ....