I think the batter is the weak link in this phone. Actually, I think it was that in my Note 4 too. After a good year, my phone started bootlooping and it was the battery's fault. I am not too confident in Samsung's batterys, not because of explosions but because they seem to be not the best. The problem is, if we want to change Note 7's battery, it will have to be done at the service center. So I'd like to keep the battery in good condition for as long as possible.
I have read it is best to avoid fast charging. I also read it is best to keep the charge between 40-80% and not let it charge over night. And to only let it drain to 0 and charge to 100 once a month to recalibrate it.
Do you guys think these are good tips for the Note 7?
I also read that first time I should have let it chargefor 5 hours, which I didn't first mistake there? Thanks everyone.
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I think the batter is the weak link in this phone. Actually, I think it was that in my Note 4 too. After a good year, my phone started bootlooping and it was the battery's fault. I am not too confident in Samsung's batterys, not because of explosions but because they seem to be not the best. The problem is, if we want to change Note 7's battery, it will have to be done at the service center. So I'd like to keep the battery in good condition for as long as possible.
I have read it is best to avoid fast charging. I also read it is best to keep the charge between 40-80% and not let it charge over night. And to only let it drain to 0 and charge to 100 once a month to recalibrate it.
Do you guys think these are good tips for the Note 7?
I also read that first time I should have let it chargefor 5 hours, which I didn't first mistake there? Thanks everyone.
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From what I have researched from chemical engineers who design batteries etc the best thing to do is not allow the battery to discharge below 20% and not charge it over 90%. Fast charging apparently does shorten battery life but all charging methods shorten battery life. All about heat, so they say? In 'normal use', whatever that is, a typical mobile battery could last years?
In thinking about this I have owned since the early 80's maybe over 100 mobile phones and 100 other mobile devices and have never replaced a battery yet? I have friends and family still using some of my hand me downs and they are still going strong.
Appears a very hit and miss science?
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I am pretty sure I count as a normal user. I also don't think I exposed the Note 4 to too much heat or did terribly stupid things with the battery. Did I just get a bad one, maybe.
It sounds to me that you've been paying too much attention to the battery, stop worrying and you'll enjoy the phone even more.
never let the batt go to 0%, charge max at 90%, thats all you can do, and, dont worry too much, enjoy your note 7
This is off of Samsung site...
Cell phones, originally used for little more than calls and text messages, have evolved into all-in-one entertainment devices. Your smartphone plays videos, music and games, and many include lightning-fast Web browsing and a robust app library. Use these features for more than a few hours, though, and your phone's battery charge may not last longer than a day. You can coax more life out of your phone by charging the battery correctly and tweaking a few power-hungry settings.
Charge Regularly
To get the most out of your smartphone's battery, you'll need to charge it properly. Most smartphones have a lithium-ion battery that lives longer when charged regularly. Unlike the nickel batteries used in older phones, lithium-ion batteries do best when kept above a 50 percent charge. Repeatedly allowing the battery to drain fully may shorten its life and decrease its overall capacity. If this happens, you'll need to charge the battery more frequently and it may last only a few hours before needing a charge, for example.
Your battery will also perform better if you don't let it charge to 100 percent, so take it off the charger at about 80 to 90 percent capacity. Leaving the phone connected to the charger when the phone is completely charged may lower battery life if you do it repeatedly.
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I've researched this and tested it for myself not saying this is the answer. I use to go 100 to zero with note 3 trying to see how far I could go screen on time. Biggest mistake I've read from Samsung and makers of lith batteries to not let it go below 60 amd it's ok to top it off as often as possible. Leaving on charger doesn't effect them due to them never fully charging they trickle charge my wife does this every night with note 4 no issues same battery for a year. You get 500 cycles of charge if you deplete 100 to zero it makes the battery unstable when hitting zero lith don't like it. You get 2500 cycles if you do the 75 to 100. I've topped off my note 7 every day lowest going to 60. I play music for 3 hours walking outside only lose 2 percent of battery. Using hotspot I lose 5 percent in a few hours all been the same the way i charge. I had 2 other note 7s I did the opposite. In a week I would lose 20 40 percent battery with hotspot music not as good either. Learn the mechanics other the battery how they work wiki it. Look at the science not opinions or articles. That helped me in the long run. I keep a Poweradd Apollo with me just in case.
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Well if Samsung put that info on their page it really about says it all.
Back to stationary phones I guess. I don't want to have to take this phone to the service centre in ten months or so.
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Well if Samsung put that info on their page it really about says it all.
Back to stationary phones I guess. I don't want to have to take this phone to the service centre in ten months or so.
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Have you read the replies here?
No device can go forever without an eventual battery change. As I said I have owned hundreds of mobile devices spanning FOUR DECADES and have never replaced a battery.
How did you arrive at a 10 month replacement figure?
Ryland
Yes, mostly they don't agree with you . And ten month figure from my experience with Note 4. At 10 months it started being weak, then after a few more months, bootlooping started and it was just because of battery. I love Notes but just don't think they have good batteris to begin with.
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Yes, mostly they don't agree with you . And ten month figure from my experience with Note 4. At 10 months it started being weak, then after a good year, bootlooping started and it was just because of battery.
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If you have a doubt regarding a mobile don't buy it especially an uber one like the Note 7 etc. If you are very concerned about battery and its going to cause you worry go for a brand with removable battery. No one can asses how you use your phone and how long the battery will live.
Sounds like you had a bad experience with your previous mobile and that has caused you some anxiety. All one can do is relate our experiences to you and hope you can make a judgement call based on others opinions?
I have zero reason to suspect the battery life of the Note 7 to be any weaker than my previous mobile devices. Only time will tell. The battery on my crystal ball needs charging.
I wish you well.
Ryland
I got 20 months wifh my note 4 wireless charging overnight.
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I gave my son my note 3 when I got the note 4, the note 3 is now almost 3 years old, and the batt is still reliable, not as when new, but very dependable
I try to plug in my phone when the battery hits 40% and charge it up to 80%. I dont get to strictly follow it but that's the best way to preserve battery life/performance
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I want to know ...
Note 7 supports Quick Charge 3.0 or 2.0 or ....
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In the story he states that the batter would last four hours? any truth to this? he also explained that there is lag in the sense?
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
Maybe 4 hours of non-stop web browsing with the brightness all the way up while on 4G. Also, I've never had any lag with Sense.
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The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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hmm, alright i mean this is big for a person who is out 24-7. (arnt we all) i wonder if it has to do with anything similar to what the hero had when it was released.
My battery life is not perfect. But people always have this problem. I was a G1 owner and everyone complained about the battery life when it first came out. And then slowly after a mont or two everybody stopped...why? Because the battery life got better with time. From 5 hours or so to 9 or 10 hours.
Then I went to an HD2. The first week I was so scared I had made a huge mistake because the battery would last about 4 or 5 hours. After I did as suggested and let the battery completely burn out and then completely recharge for about three cycles, the HD2 had the best battery I had ever seen. i could use it for 2 days and have 60% left.
Now I have an Evo. And the first stay (with constant use) it died after about 4.5 hours. But I am going through the process of draining and then FULL recharge of 6-8 hours and I'm sure it will be fine.
People think they plug the phone in an hour or two and it says 100% and they have charged it. My opinion is that it takes the battery a while to know what 100% and 0% are on any given battery. After it cycles through a few times it will actually have a true accounting of the battery life, power consumption.
That is all my opinion and experience. I am hoping the EVO has a similar battery life to the HD2. That would be perfect for me.
EDIT: And as for lag....the guy is obviously on crack and just saying stuff to say stuff. I doubt he even has an EVO. He's reading about Sense Lag on the HD2 which there was some) and passing that information on. Anyone who actually HAS an evo have any lag? I think not.
And if he thinks an iPhone 3GS in ANY way blows the EVO out of the water...he is obviously lying. I mean based on feature set alone. There is no way the iphone can browse as fast (4G...hello), operate as fast (gee isn't that processor almost twice as fast), take better pictures? No. Have a front facing cam? No. Oh yeah...that screen size on the iPhone sure is better than the EVO. WTF?
Some people's kids.
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My battery life is not perfect. But people always have this problem. I was a G1 owner and everyone complained about the battery life when it first came out. And then slowly after a mont or two everybody stopped...why? Because the battery life got better with time. From 5 hours or so to 9 or 10 hours.
Then I went to an HD2. The first week I was so scared I had made a huge mistake because the battery would last about 4 or 5 hours. After I did as suggested and let the battery completely burn out and then completely recharge for about three cycles, the HD2 had the best battery I had ever seen. i could use it for 2 days and have 60% left.
Now I have an Evo. And the first stay (with constant use) it died after about 4.5 hours. But I am going through the process of draining and then FULL recharge of 6-8 hours and I'm sure it will be fine.
People think they plug the phone in an hour or two and it says 100% and they have charged it. My opinion is that it takes the battery a while to know what 100% and 0% are on any given battery. After it cycles through a few times it will actually have a true accounting of the battery life, power consumption.
That is all my opinion and experience. I am hoping the EVO has a similar battery life to the HD2. That would be perfect for me.
EDIT: And as for lag....the guy is obviously on crack and just saying stuff to say stuff. I doubt he even has an EVO. He's reading about Sense Lag on the HD2 which there was some) and passing that information on. Anyone who actually HAS an evo have any lag? I think not.
And if he thinks an iPhone 3GS in ANY way blows the EVO out of the water...he is obviously lying. I mean based on feature set alone. There is no way the iphone can browse as fast (4G...hello), operate as fast (gee isn't that processor almost twice as fast), take better pictures? No. Have a front facing cam? No. Oh yeah...that screen size on the iPhone sure is better than the EVO. WTF?
Some people's kids.
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I understand what you are saying. That was the only reason i am worried about buying an EVO. This author must have had all the applications syncing every 15 minutes. I have an apple itouch not sure how close the phone and this thing is but I like it. It is smooth and quick. (buts its not a phone). When it comes to android... Its about the experience that comes with it.
But this guy is positively being paid off haha
The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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With light usage I had 36% remaining after 14 hours the other day. I think you just need to give the battery time to get adjusted. However, I have noticed that it seems to drain faster from 100-80% than it does from 80-50%.
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With light usage I had 36% remaining after 14 hours the other day. I think you just need to give the battery time to get adjusted. However, I have noticed that it seems to drain faster from 100-80% than it does from 80-50%.
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Well I actually just recently noticed the same about my iPhone 3G. The first 10-15% go really fast.
My evo seems to do pretty good with the battery I can go the whole day without needing a charge but I do charge it when I get home. When I'm using it for games all day it drains pretty quick but at those time I plug it in... I don't know what they expect when your rocking a 1ghz processor, a 4.3 inch screen, and about every type of network connection you can fit in a phone... as far as lag goes on this phone I notice very little mainly when I'm installing like 3 or 4 apps at once... compared to my hero this thing is a rocket! And once Android 2.2 is put on here this thing will be smoking.
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My Evo lasts for 8-9 hours. That's 70% idle with screen off. Cell Standby at 40+% is killing my battery.
My motorola droid in the same time still has over 50% charge. There's no question that the Evo is a battery drainer for whatever reason.
hate to say it, but once a fan boy always a fan boy. I used to have a win-mo device (touch pro) and i like it, then i moved up (should i say downgraded) to the instinct- worst decision ever. than i used the android platform on my hero. I'd have to say its leaps and bounds easier than win-mo.. My brother has an iPhone which i always play with when he comes over, and i think its a really easy interface to play with.. thats all. The speeds at which apps were open weren't any better than my hero. I also opened up maps on his phone and mine, and my location was dead on with the hero, the iPhone was 100meters. LOL.
But everyone needs to try other stuff out and make there own decisions, dont let someone who is obviously a fan boy tell you whats good and bad.
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The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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thats ur prob ur using bluetooth it will use more battery and then ur playing the podcast at the same time any phone u do that on u will use more battery
the battery technology is a few years old. the cpu is 1ghz.. the phone is sniffing 3g/4g/wifi/bt plus the shiny screen and backlight all use power. the battery technology being used in this state of the art phone is not advancing as fast as the phones are...
the reason the top ~10% of the charge goes so quickly is due to the you taking the phone off charge.. the cells in Li-ION batteries are not created equal. some cells will get a stronger/longer charge than other cells. once you take the battery off charge, the cells that are stronger in charge than the others will feed that extra charge to those other cells, so your battery charge will fall down to around 90 or so pretty quickly out the gate.. from there the cells are all stable and equally charged and stay at a constant discharge rate for about ~87% to about ~55%.
once the charge falls below 55% the cells really start to lose their charge and the battery curve drops drastically.
when you "top off" the phone for , say, 30 minutes or so and you take it off charge and you see 100%. do understand that one or two cells have a fuller (my word) charge than others.. once the cells equalize, then you will see the tru charge (which will be much much less than 100%)...
I'll post my findings here although probably no one will believe me. I'm not a fanboi since i've phones on three carriers.
My EVO will lose 2% per hour sitting idle which is fantastic. My HD2 loses approx. the same amount, maybe a little less.
I've found the EVO to be no more power hungry than any "superphone" i've used including the iphone 3gs.
signal strength also plays a part
one thought based on my experience with a palm pre and htc hero: signal strength.
My office has very low signal strength (1 bar or less). The battery seems to drain quite fast here. If I'm somewhere else with good signal, my battery lasts much longer. Same battery drain if you're going in and out of evdo / 1Rxx.
Sean
My battery life is like all the other phones i had lately (see my sig).
No more, no less.
I have to say my battery is getting better with going through a couple full charges, as for lag nope none not here
“Phone idle,” and “Android system” that eat up over 75% of the life.
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LMAO, the fact that he wrote that puts severe doubt in his skills to review an android phone.
I can't believe this thread is going on seeing as that's an Apple Fanboy site. Will say anything to make his Iphone sound like the best thing ever. He lost all credibility when he said the Nexus One and Incredible were better phones.
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the battery technology is a few years old. the cpu is 1ghz.. the phone is sniffing 3g/4g/wifi/bt plus the shiny screen and backlight all use power. the battery technology being used in this state of the art phone is not advancing as fast as the phones are...
the reason the top ~10% of the charge goes so quickly is due to the you taking the phone off charge.. the cells in Li-ION batteries are not created equal. some cells will get a stronger/longer charge than other cells. once you take the battery off charge, the cells that are stronger in charge than the others will feed that extra charge to those other cells, so your battery charge will fall down to around 90 or so pretty quickly out the gate.. from there the cells are all stable and equally charged and stay at a constant discharge rate for about ~87% to about ~55%.
once the charge falls below 55% the cells really start to lose their charge and the battery curve drops drastically.
when you "top off" the phone for , say, 30 minutes or so and you take it off charge and you see 100%. do understand that one or two cells have a fuller (my word) charge than others.. once the cells equalize, then you will see the tru charge (which will be much much less than 100%)...
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the battery in the EVO (and pretty much every phone evar) is a single cell battery.
you have no idea what your talking about do you?
hello my phone doesnt last 1 day of charge and it says 40% is due to display/screen can anyone help me?
alvespt said:
hello my phone doesnt last 1 day of charge and it says 40% is due to display/screen can anyone help me?
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You can lower your brightness if it is not already at the lowest setting.
Unfortunately, the galaxy nexus has poor battery life. You could also try turning off data when you don't need it.
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the screen is at lowest and it doesnt make sense turning of data if the problem is from screen right?
I'm having the exact same issue. Screen is totally eating up my battery life. It took 30 minutes for the battery to go down by like 10%. And the screen is 40% of the battery life issue.
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Unfortunately, the galaxy nexus has poor battery life.
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Maybe I just don't use the screen as much as you, but I don't find this to be true for me. I find it has great battery life. I don't sit for hours with the screen on, but I do regularly text and check emails throughout the day, do a bit of web browsing, take some calls, and play some Angry Birds or other games in the evening. The screen is always at the top of the list for battery usage, but even on an extreme day I still have more than 30% battery left by the time I go to bed. I throw it on the charger and I'm ready to go again in the morning.
I disagree that the Galaxy Nexus has poor battery life, in general. I would argue that: all high-end phones have "poor" battery life because of all the things they do (especially 720p screens), your personal use of it consumes a lot of power and you could benefit from an extended battery, or you have a faulty device.
hi there, i do that exact same things with no games, so less usage but i get less than a day... i love the phone but the batery is just no working...
I don't understand why people don't get that when you have a screen that is 4.65'' it will destroy the battery life. My screen use is always at 60% or more but yet I still get good battery life. The screen is going to use the majority of your battery when compared to other things, that's just how it is.
sorry but thats not the point, when you pay 700 for a top phone, that is suposed to be the google experience to carry arround wiith you and you can only get 10 hours of battery time something went wrong in the process...
Most phones are $600 to $700, and name one 4g phone that will last more than 10 hours with moderate use and no extended battery, just not going to happen. You need to reset your expectations.
GN battery is giving lots of trouble, too. I picked up the phone from charge and it was 100% charged. ! hour of usage with 3g on. Usage includes 1 hours or music and reading of pdf books simultaniously and battery is dropped to 61%.
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sorry but thats not the point, when you pay 700 for a top phone, that is suposed to be the google experience to carry arround wiith you and you can only get 10 hours of battery time something went wrong in the process...
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I think you should take a look at every other android phone that has come out with the same specs in the last year. Everything from the EVO 3d to the thunderbolt have their default battery's not last more than around 6-8 hours with constant use because of the screen & processors.
THis is why Verizon offered the extended batteries at a discounted rate right off the bat, because default batteries have never ever lasted that long in topof the line smartphones. FFS the new iphone 4s I've heard from a friend that their phones don't even last 24 hours.
I have a galaxy nexus, and mine has lasted... let me see.. one sec...1 day 3 hours and 25sec's with 35% left. (of course I have the extended battery) but here's the kicker: the extended battery has basically the same back as the regular phone does. so if they so desired, verizon could technically put out another extended battery just like all the rest of the phones, but they might not do that. I'm content with the battery life as it is almost identical as the droid X from which I came. The only difference is since I have a lot of un-updated apps for ice cream sandwich one of them is using "mediaserver" A LOT. I'm talking about that being the top of my battery draining with the screen being second. They both have taken ~20% with android OS itself taking 13, PlayerPro taking 13, and other random things like calls and txt msging taking ~10% each.
So I would suggest not trying to watch a lot of stuff on your phone while on battery, or don't expect your battery to survive long while watching stuff on that great screen
hymn thanks for the feedback so the only solution I see would be to go for a bigger battery. I'm from Portugal were could I buy one and whays the power?
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If your screen usage is less than 50%, it be more worried about what else is killing your battery........
...and its wicked (IMO..I've heard others not have good luck with them..)
Basically, I've gotten 22 hours of fairly heavy use.. web surfing, Facebook, gaming (order and chaos mostly) among other things....using auto-brightness.
Now that I have another battery...I'm going to unlock/root and get to work flashing like I did on my DX.
A question though.. If I use my extended battery exclusively, and keep my standard battery as backup... Will my standard slowly discharge over time not being plugged in? Idk much about batteries..
Thanks so much,
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It will yes, expect it to loose approx 30% over a period of a year being idle. Nothing to worry about.
Oh okay. So popping it in once a month should keep it up then?
I just want to be sure I have one handy because I once got into a corner with my DX where I needed a full battery to .sbf and mine was half dead and wouldn't work...so I had to hunt a friend who also had a DX down to fix it lol. Just want to be sure I don't run into the same problem >.>
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Oh okay. So popping it in once a month should keep it up then?
I just want to be sure I have one handy because I once got into a corner with my DX where I needed a full battery to .sbf and mine was half dead and wouldn't work...so I had to hunt a friend who also had a DX down to fix it lol. Just want to be sure I don't run into the same problem >.>
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It will lose very little capacity not being used. He meant it will lose charge just sitting there. Just don't let it sit empty. Or at full charge.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
You should be fine, lithium-ion batteries hold their charge pretty well. I've not actually tested them before, but try charging it to full and then booting up to see the charge in 28 days later, might be interesting to see.
I know my Nikon D7000 batteries hold their charge very well, I tend to leave one in the camera and discharge the one in the battery grip first and just use the battery for a month or so and swap them around. In the same sort of time, 28 days I can lose up to six percent this time of year, but I am going out everyday in temperatures as low as -12°C, so it's to be expected.
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...and its wicked (IMO..I've heard others not have good luck with them..)
Basically, I've gotten 22 hours of fairly heavy use.. web surfing, Facebook, gaming (order and chaos mostly) among other things....using auto-brightness.
Now that I have another battery...I'm going to unlock/root and get to work flashing like I did on my DX.
A question though.. If I use my extended battery exclusively, and keep my standard battery as backup... Will my standard slowly discharge over time not being plugged in? Idk much about batteries..
Thanks so much,
-Path
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For this Id like to know some additional information... what widgets you have running. Stock or ROM and what kernel. As well as settings like display, sync timing etc.
If you want to store your LiIon battery it's best for the battery to have ~40% charge. The battery will age the slowest this way.
Do not store it at 100% or 0%. Check every 6 months and recharge to ~40% if necessary.
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If you want to store your LiIon battery it's best for the battery to have ~40% charge. The battery will age the slowest this way.
Do not store it at 100% or 0%. Check every 6 months and recharge to ~40% if necessary.
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This also reinforces what I've heard. Store these type of batteries around 1/2 charge never full never empty.
Hello all,
I hope I'm not beating a dead horse by asking this because I have searched this site as well as other places around the internet and there seems to be alot of information out there concerning how to charge your phone battery. But every time I read something, it seems to contradict the last thing I read. So I wanted to pose both viewpoints to the experts here in one place and hopefully get some clarification.
I recently got the Note 2 and am really happy with the phone. One of the biggest and most welcome surprises is the terrific battery life I have gotten so far. I am coming from a HTC Sensation and while I liked that phone, I always felt like the battery life pretty much sucked. When I first got the phone, it would barley get me through the waking hours of the day and that was only if I used it sparingly. Over the course of the nearly two years I had it, the battery life just got worse. I typically would leave my phone charging all night as well as in the car during the day if I had heavier use that day.
With the Note 2, I am seeing much better performance. I can easily make it through a whole day starting at 6am and by the time night comes still have over 50% charge remaining. I am not a heavy user but I have found myself using it more, trying to deplete the battery so I can charge it at night. My problem now is I can make it through one day with no problem but to make it through two full days may not work as well. I feel if I don't charge at night when its still around 50-45%, the next day I may need to charge right in the middle of the day when I need to use it or am not by a charger.
So my question is what is the best practice? Is it best to fully charge then fully discharge, and if so does it need to be a regular habit or just the first few cycles? Do I need to remove the phone from the charger once its fully charged or will an overnight charge be a safe option? If the phone is only at 40% or more is it ok to charge it? Are there any other battery management practices I should be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your help
dont read too much into battery charges...charge as you like...........at home, in car, connected to pc...........lol..........the battery will last for 2-3 yrs well...then if you feel it is dying, it has a removable battery.........you can always change the battery, buy a new one...they are cheap...
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you get ~1200 cycles if you charge from 40%-90%, but you will charge twice a day (2 charges a day will last ~400 days)
you get ~400 cycles if you charge from 10%-100%..charging 1 time a day will last ~400 days again
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
The above is the only proven effect on our batteries. The rest is handled by the battery itself.
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Honestly ive always charged my phones however and whenever I liked. Overnight and at varying parcentages. Never noticed any battery degradation at all. My x10 battery seemed the same as the day I got it after 2 years.
I figure any detrimental effects will probably occur after 2 years of bad practice at which point most people would have a new phone anyway
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Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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Best way to go is using normal charge an never let the battery drop below 20% forget about trying to maintain certain range (60-80), it will just drive you crazy
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If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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Holmes108 said:
If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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So... buy an iPhone?
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rcobourn said:
So... buy an iPhone?
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So far you've been Super helpful to the op. Thanks for posting.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
RedsonRising said:
It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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That's not what he said. Read it again.
"Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use? "
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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So besides that little fight you had with the other forum member (lol) I appreciate your comment. But there seems to be back and forth, one other person says its good, another says its not. (the one I quoted below). Just seems weird to me that with no open or running apps and just the always on display running that it went down in an hour in 2%. Searching around, people saying losing 1% In an hour with the same set up, no running apps with AOD is bad. I kind of agree since its not truly in use. But unfortunately I cannot find any battery standby tests from Samsung or anyone else to confirm it.
aznmode said:
Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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I agree with you more honestly that it shouldn't be going down that fast in an hour with just the AOD running. I didn't have any apps running once it 100%, I was on it while charing it to around 50% but then once I knew I was putting it down for a while I ran the optimization and had the phone kill all the apps. When I saw it go down the 2% I did check out the apps using the battery and the AOD was the only thing listed. Maybe I didn't charge to a full 100%? even though it said 100%... Ill check it out tomorrow once I charge it fully again, today I was charging it up and down most of the day sadly. I try and keep most apps from not running in the background, some I do need though like for my IoT devices needing to know my location, I have yet to change that to just using LTE as my location GPS, but that was not on last night all. Ill try out the sleeping apps though, I didn't know there was a setting for that. Thanks again
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
ccigas said:
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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In an hour? Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use.
DeeXii said:
Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
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This is useful, thank you. Never knew not discharging device is the way to go but we all learn new things every day. I'm at 65% right now, when waking up at 6am with 95%. Wireless android auto for about an hour, plus okay-ish use. Ill make sure to charge it up to around 80% tonight.
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Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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Thanks, I think I am seeing a bit better today after having it for 4 days or so now? Ill follow the above quote about calibration and go from there.
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Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
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Over 8 hours screen time is great, best I've gotten so far is 7.5 hours
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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Yeah I came from an S10+ and noticed my battery on the N10+ was pretty bad in comparison.
I did restore everything from my S10+ though, not a clean install of everything.
Wonder if that may be causing issues.
Is everyone having problems on Verizon?
Quote " Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use."
Unless you put it in airplane mode, your phone will keep connected to cell tower (or wifi if you have wifi calling) otherwise you won't receive calls and messages, so there is no such thing as phone with no use, and if you have weak signal or some interference your battery usage can increase drastically even in standby because the cell radio will try to connect at full transmit power. And then you have all those programs running in the background, God knows what they're doing. As others suggested disable programs you don't use, also you can force close programs that you don't use often. When I had my older Note rooted, I optimized it so well it would run 2% down per 8 hrs overnight, but it took some effort. Biggest problem is to know what to disable without loosing functionality for stuff you need. Give it some time for people to learn more about new phone. BTW my 3 day old phone has 435 apps and services installed and most of them I have no idea what they do.