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Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
I am sure I read here somewhere, that the non US versions don't support 3G. You may want to read some other threads to verify yourself though.
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2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Are you blind or just being lazy to read?? Posts of european version of TP2 is not compatible w/ AT&T 3G is all over here (it's even listed on HTC official website). Who could you blame if you are not doing research before you purchase???
did you read anything about this phone before buying it?
Can he actually read?
ok ok that was a lame one ..
but yes, you should do research about these things before buying it.
for the xperia as example they have an Xi and an Xa a for US and i for europe.
Lenstar said:
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
are you kidding me?! where have you been the past few months? its been stated multiple times in this forum that th euro version doesn't run US 3G. and why would you buy a phone without researching it first? if you knew the US 3G bands and compared them to what the euro TP2 uses, then you would have known. and its not the ROM that doesn't support it. its the hardware on the phone. people who don't read and search and do research annoy the s*** out of me.
You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
poetryrocksalot said:
You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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haha sounds like a good deal!!!
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1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
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I wrongly presumed that pretty much anybody buying a TP2 would know how bluetooth works... I really had to laugh at this one, sorry about that.
How can you think that 'bluetooth' reads 'voice command'. Bluetooth just means bluetooth, nothing more, nothing less, just bluetooth.
It's like buying a car advertised as a manual gearbox (stick shift) and then complaining "where's the twin turbo and NOS!?"
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
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No no, the steering wheel is on the "RIGHT" side of the car
I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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yeah, but you do not have 3G though.
if the European TP2 could run on 3G here in the states i would already have one.
people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
EDGE is fine for US networks compared to the overcrowded WCDMA that AT&T is currently touting. They need a major upgrade at some point. Most iPhone users have been getting dropped down to EDGE speeds without realizing it since they don't ever check their bandwidth. Same thing happens with most WM users in the US. On a good day, you'll get 1.2Mbps but on a bad day you'll end up with 60kbps T_T. In any case, the US should come out of the CDMA stoneage and get on the same good networks like the rest of the world. It's funny but I get higher speed everywhere else in the world except in the US. Consistency is key.
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I agree. I've had 3G on my Xperia and my Tilt and I can't say i'm dying cause on edge. With push pages it helps a lot. I know that even after having it for a while i would still buy it again and recommend it to anyone even on edge.
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Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Words escape me.... but there had to be a first, but congratulations Lenstar, you are the first..
On a serious note.. have you tried switching to the 2100 WCDMA frequency?
Not totally sure of the options on the TP2, but i believe under the network settings there should be an option to scan for a different network.
The Taiwanese HTC web site states that the Taiwanese version of the handset is built for European and Asian 3G networks running at 900 and 2,100 MHz.
...not to mention the sorry battery life that 3g get you even if it were fast all the time i would struggle with keeping it on because ei use my tp2 all the time for work and pleasure and i would have to charge it twice a day if i used 3g
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I 2nd that
Let's just say I am a real fan of WM 6.5 and my brief expereince with Android left me with much to desire. The TP2 is nice, but very large. I am stuck with T-mobile as they are the only ones that give me good signal at my house.
Does anyone know any good touch screen WM phones that can still utilize T-Mobile's 3G signal when unlocked?
Android would be awesome if it's native software would sync all of exchange and hotmail. If that was the case, I would go back. The K-9 software blows, and that is the only thing to come close to syncing hotmail. The Touchdown software for purchase works great with full exchange sync, but again, you must purchase it. Oh, and the camera sucks on the MT3G. Barely ever focuses.
The TP2 is great except the size. I don't really even need the slide-out keyboard. I actually prefer the touch keyboard.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Touch Diamond 2 (AKA AT&T Pure) is basically a TP2 minus the hardware keyboard. Maybe it's what you're looking for?
That would be great. But the way I understand it is that AT&T uses a different frequency for their 3G data than T-Mobile. And if the phone was already branded AT&T, it is set for that frequency. So even if you unlock it, it will not use 3G data from T-Mobile.
If I am wrong, please someone tell me, because it would be great to get that Touch Diamond 2.
After some quick searching on the interwebs, it looks like the Touch 2/Mega maybe what I am after or the HD2 (not released yet). Anyone know if the Touch 2 will work with T-Mobile 3G?
Unfortunately there is no real option other than the TP2 (or other 3G phones offered by T-Mobile) to get 3G service on the T-Mobile USA network.
It has to do with the frequencies that T-Mobile USA is using along with the type of 3G that they are implementing. A little web research indicates that T-Mobile is using the 1700/2100 frequencies with the 1700 used for uploading and the 2100 used for downloading.
You need both bands present to even think a phone will work on the T-Mobile 3G network, otherwise the best you can hope for is EDGE speeds.
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......T-Mobile is using the 1700/2100 frequencies with the 1700 used for uploading and the 2100 used for downloading......
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I highly doubt that. T-Mobile only use 1700mhz. There are at least 4 phones listed on phonescoop that use Tmo's 3G and with only 1700mhz band, all samsung: SHG-T659, T749, T469 and T559. If Tmo uses 1700 for uploading and 2100 for downloading then those 4 phones listed above can only send MMS and not able to get on the internet? I highly doubt that.
Edit: You can try EMobile phones from Japan. They use 1700mhz band for their 3G.
http://emobile.jp/products/
Hello,
I have both phones, and I find it very hard to choose one. If I pick the i9100, I'll be forced to switch to AT&T and pay more per month. However, the international version feels way smoother. I guess the Exynos really does make a difference.
Here is a comparison between the two phones, based on what I have experienced so far:
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Pros: T-Mobile version:
* NFC
* 3.5G data on T-Mobile's network
Cons: T-Mobile version:
* heavier, thicker
* Snapdragon SoC
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Debatable issues:
* Screen size - Personally, I think the resolution looks better on the 4.3" screen, but some would prefer a larger screen regardless of resolution.
* Design - The square edges and central button look better than any of the U.S. variants (in my opinion). Also, that big ass T-Mobile stamp on the phone's face is kind of annoying.
* Build quality - To me, the i9100 feels more "premium" when you hold it in your hand.
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Pros: i9100 international version:
* Exynos SoC - definitely feels faster
* thinner, lighter
Cons: i9100 international version:
* will either have to switch to AT&T or stay on 2G
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The one thing that most people dislike about the T989 is the lack of development. However, I don't think this is a valid complaint and have excluded it from my comparison. Honestly, "official" ICS from Samsung is a buggy piece of ****. MIUI v4 is based on this horrible build from Samsung as well (instead of . CM9 is the only real advantage that the i9100 has in terms of development. Yet even that has many problems. Overall, they don't have it that much better than us if you are only talking about software. But really, I think that anyone who has purchased a carrier branded device should have understood the implications. To me, the real comparison is with hardware/design.
Also, if anyone wants me to run any certain tests to compare the devices, I could do it since I currently have both.
I really like the i9100, but I'm worried about switching to AT&T. I wonder if I would be able to have a T-Mobile talk/text plan and an AT&T data plan on the same phone? Does anyone know the details of T-Mobile's future plans for the 1900 band? From what I have read, it still seems that it is unconfirmed whether non-AWS phones will work on T-Mobile data in the future.
Anyone have some advice for this scenario? Also feel free to discuss any of the issues in my comparison.
Why not wait for the sgs3?
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Why not wait for the sgs3?
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Well, it's not that I'm choosing which phone to buy; I have both already. The issue still applies if the SGS3 was to come out, though. If T-Mobile doesn't support non-AWS data by the time the GS3 was released; I'd still be in the same situation. It's really unlikely that the phone will support the 1700MHz band.
I've heard rumours about 1900MHz being enabled for HSPA on T-Mobile, but I haven't seen any proof about this yet.
No you caint have data with one carrier and voice on another. The only way this could even be a possibility is with a dual sim phone and even then dont know if you could as I have no experience with a phone like that. Suppose you could use two different sims that you swapped in and out with a shutdown and flash your radio depending on what sim you had in? Dont think that is what you had in mind though.
I really love my T989, Its fast looks great and I get great data speeds when I am in town (7-16 megs down 1.5 up) all for a lot less each month than at&t. I do wish there was more AOSP for my phone but the roms that are available are really nice and it seems a bit refined at this point.
Yet to see any practical use of NFC for me.
I simply don't find 2g speeds tolerable in any sense of the word.
Why not use the $45 unlimited ST plan using AT&T towers? 3g speeds, no contract, etc.. i9100 FTW!
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We had this thread before what people don't understand the original galaxy S2 has had software improvements over the year since it's been released to icecream sandwich. Samsung has been exclusively working on improving the device since release. They just recently got started with Qualcomm processor.
I did this experiment with with a friend that had the sprint galaxy S2. Both were rooted with custom roms. Both had custom kernels.
We switch phones for a week. There both good phones. Playing games got the sprint version extremely hot. No idea why. Battery Life was better on the tmobile device. Probably susceptible to networks.. Both had stock browser checker boarding.
Exynos gave better benchmarks. Apps started slightly faster? It was really negligible though. Sometimes The Qualcomm processor will start up faster than Exynos. Most of the time Exynos would win. But it was to a point by milliseconds.
I wouldn't be disappointed what ever device you bought. According to reddit r/android the original Samsung galaxy S2 removed a lot of gingerbread enhancements for ics. So I expect to not see a difference in devices when running ics. So honestly don't worry be happy about what device you got. Next month new devices are launching so you can always sell this phone for it.
what is the maximum speed you can get with the i9100 on tmobils network?
5-6mpbs?
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I wouldn't be disappointed what ever device you bought. According to reddit r/android the original Samsung galaxy S2 removed a lot of gingerbread enhancements for ics. So I expect to not see a difference in devices when running ics. So honestly don't worry be happy about what device you got. Next month new devices are launching so you can always sell this phone for it.
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It's not that I'm considering which device to buy.. I have both already.
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what is the maximum speed you can get with the i9100 on tmobils network?
5-6mpbs?
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More like 0.01mbps. But I am on wifi 80% of time.
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what is the maximum speed you can get with the i9100 on tmobils network?
5-6mpbs?
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Edge since it doesn't support the bands.
Yeah but the edge speed is not even the decent edge speed you get on other phones like the iphone.. It is horrible slow edge speed
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I had the international version, and I sold it for this one just because of the data speeds. Att was horrible for me at work where I play the most on it. But on the international version I think there were around 20 roms that I could get my crack head flash fix with. I miss having all the options to play with. Like a day after I bought this the sky rocket came out and Kansas city is a test market for there lte so I could have had it. But all in all the data was more important so I am happy with this.
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yeah hopefully the sgs3 will support multiple bands and work on basically every carrier. i9100s speeds are too low on tmobil.
if you usw tmobil, our phone is your best option
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yeah hopefully the sgs3 will support multiple bands and work on basically every carrier. i9100s speeds are too low on tmobil.
if you usw tmobil, our phone is your best option
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That's the problem. The AWS (1700MHz) band used by T-Mobile is only shared by a few small Canadian carriers. There is no reason that an international phone would enable this band. Maybe if we get really lucky, they will enable it. But the chances are slim.
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That's the problem. The AWS (1700MHz) band used by T-Mobile is only shared by a few small Canadian carriers. There is no reason that an international phone would enable this band. Maybe if we get really lucky, they will enable it. But the chances are slim.
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Galaxy Nexus enables it. So Samsung already has the tech there to do it. I, too, hope that all their future phones will be pentaband UMTS.
As the other guy said, why not go to ST $45 unlimited plan leave the int version?
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Galaxy Nexus enables it. So Samsung already has the tech there to do it. I, too, hope that all their future phones will be pentaband UMTS.
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it depends on the chip. the reason we have an s3 is because exynos wont do our hspa+ bands
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I prefer the look of the T989 over the international variants, as well as the bigger screen. I use my phone all day long.
BUT...it's the damn carrier branding that I hate.
I would love to find a Telus T989D with no carrier branding
I pretty much spam this everywhere but with the darkside 2.5.1 ROM and kernel, 989 is perfect to me and almost the same as 9100.
In my area tm is the only 4g, no lte so I get 16mb where att 3g is only 2.
Att sucks.
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I pretty much spam this everywhere but with the darkside 2.5.1 ROM and kernel, 989 is perfect to me and almost the same as 9100.
In my area tm is the only 4g, no lte so I get 16mb where att 3g is only 2.
Att sucks.
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see thats the thing. if ur on tmobil... and ur going to drop $500 on a phone, ours is the best pick. obviously if ur on verison or att there are better choices for those networksm
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I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a final release Black Sony Xperia ZL from a very reliable source. This phone is expected to be released around the middle to end of March. This is the unlocked C6506 model of the ZL which comes with UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII. For those of you who are not sure what that means this is a penta band phone that will work with Tmobile and AT&T HSPA + network as well as AT&T's LTE and Tmobile's soon to be released LTE network. I am currently using it on Tmobile but i have also tested it with AT&T.
This phone has the exact same specs as the Xperia Z minus the dust and waterproofing. However what you lose in extra protection gains you a very compact phone. It is actually smaller than the Galaxy S III as far as length and width are concerned, it is slightly thicker but not by much. The back casing is made of a poly plastic with a durable textured back that actually gives you a better grip over a 5" screen that was made to be used one handed.
The screen is bright and crisp and the viewing angles are great if your one of those people that look at your phone dead on (Why people want a phone that can be seen by the person sitting next to you is beyond me). I will take some pics comparing it with the Galaxy S III as well as the Xperia TX. But the screen is amazing and watching the walking dead on it has been a joy.
Battery life has been pretty decent. Im averaging about 13-14 hours of light to moderate use and 6-8 hours of heavy use witch include browsing the net, youtube, facebooking and watching movies. Mind you i have done all this without using stamina mode. i wanted to see what my results where without it so that i then have something to compare it against. i will report back.
The Ui is pretty slick it has some neat animations but its not heavily tweaked like sense 4.0 or cartoony like Touch Wiz. there is nothing about this phone that has lag or stutter in anyway. It is FAST, and ive attempted to bog it down opening and closing apps as well as switching between apps with not so much as a problem. Another nice touch which had me thrilled was that i was able to download all of my old Nvidia Tegra games that i purchased back when i was using the G2X (im really enjoying gaming on this phone GTA3 and Vice city play great as well as 9MM, Order and Chaos, The Dark Knight, Spiderman, Backstab, Max Payne, Dead Trigger, Dead Space, Vector and Angry Birds). Music sounds excellent provided you have decent headphones and the speaker on this thing is pretty loud.loud enough to allow me to have conversations on speaker while driving around town.
Things im not crazy about...Im not digging the fact that the background has switched from black to white in the stock messaging app as well as contacts but thats just personal taste. Also the lock screen requires you to do a full swipe up and down with this neat little window blind effect but its annoying at times because it really does require you to go from top to bottom and vice versa for it to unlock the screen. The camera takes great shots but i feel that the burst shot should really have its own button rather than me having to go looking for it in the menu or perhaps do like HTC has and register that fact that i haven't taken my finger off the shutter. Especially considering it that theres unused space in the left hand menu options that would make for a good place to put a burst shot button.The notification area has the easy access settings buttons vibration, blue-tooth, wi-fi, data connections and settings, but they are not customizable at all and that reallys drags away from their purpose in my opinion as it should be up to the user to set. the placement of the front facing camera while interesting does mean that if your a right handed user you may be holding it with your left hand or looking at the person your chating with sideways because your palm may get in the way.
None of this is deal breaking just my personal take. If any one has questions or request ill try to accommodate so ask away.
Thanks for the review! Looking forward to when this will be available on the Sony online store. Can't wait!
eBay listed in stock for sale about $700
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eBay listed in stock for sale about $700
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645 on Negri!
Many thanks for your review.
I cannot wait for the screen size comparions pictures and battery life reviews
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645 on Negri!
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Yeah the one Negri is the C6502 model which has the HSPA+ bands but the one i reviewed is the C6506 which has all the HSPA+ bands as well as the LTE bands. Just wanted to point that out.
defiantbeast -
Would you say the viewable screen real estate is about the same as the GS3, seeing the XL has onscreen navigation and the GS3 does not?
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Would you say the viewable screen real estate is about the same as the GS3, seeing the XL has onscreen navigation and the GS3 does not?
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Yes the screen size/real estate is almost identical to the Galaxy S III. I have pics that i would like to post but, forgive my ignorance, i haven't been able to figure out how to do so.
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Yeah the one Negri is the C6502 model which has the HSPA+ bands but the one i reviewed is the C6506 which has all the HSPA+ bands as well as the LTE bands. Just wanted to point that out.
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Yup, just checked Negri and he has the C6502 for $645.00. I'd wait for the C6506, since those LTE bands is a must. I'm gonna go ahead and guess, that the C6506 on Sony store will be sold for $549, since they have the Acro S on sale for $499.99. Would be awesome if they have it at that price. I personally, will be buying the white version, once it goes up on sale, at the Sony store.
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Yup, just checked Negri and he has the C6502 for $645.00. I'd wait for the C6506, since those LTE bands is a must. I'm gonna go ahead and guess, that the C6506 on Sony store will be sold for $549, since they have the Acro S on sale for $499.99. Would be awesome if they have it at that price. I personally, will be buying the white version, once it goes up on sale, at the Sony store.
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I wonder how long it will take on Sony site though?
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I wonder how long it will take on Sony site though?
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I'm hearing mid March, or end of March. But, after seeing this, might be mid March. http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666543654 shows the Estimated ship date: 03/15/2013 but, yesterday I saw that it was March 7th. Guess they changed it.
Hmmm Interesting. I want to order on Negrielectronics so bad! But I`d rather have white haha
The C6506 will have 3G Tmobile, AT&T and LTE right?
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The C6506 will have 3G Tmobile, AT&T and LTE right?
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huh?
The C6506 Should have AT&T and T-Mobile 3G and AT&T LTE, Not sure if it will work with T-Mobile LTE.
But the C6502 thats currently being sold will work on AT&T and T-Mobiles 3G
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The C6506 will have 3G Tmobile, AT&T and LTE right?
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C6506 wil work with HSPA+ and LTE on both networks.
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C6506 wil work with HSPA+ and LTE on both networks.
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Yes both HSPA+ and LTE on both At&t and Tmobile. That's why i believe that Sony will only release the ZL in Canada and the US. The Z will not support the full spectrum of bands like the ZL will. Its a bit disheartening as the Xperia Z is beautiful, but it will only play nice with HSPA+. I had a friend who almost cried over the Z but after he saw how compact the ZL is he seeing that its the better choice for him.
HSPA?
Running AT&T Straight Talk on a N4. The ZL C6502 has the 850/1900 frequencies to run 3G. Will this be the same HSPA 3G that I'm getting now?
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Yes both HSPA+ and LTE on both At&t and Tmobile. That's why i believe that Sony will only release the ZL in Canada and the US. The Z will not support the full spectrum of bands like the ZL will. Its a bit disheartening as the Xperia Z is beautiful, but it will only play nice with HSPA+. I had a friend who almost cried over the Z but after he saw how compact the ZL is he seeing that its the better choice for him.
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The Z wont play nice with hspa. As with att you wouldnt get 3g everywhere cause no 1900mhz
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The Z wont play nice with hspa. As with att you wouldnt get 3g everywhere cause no 1900mhz
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your partially right the Z thats on negri will not play nice with HSPA because its missing the 1900 but there is a model according to the white papers of the Xperia Z the C6602 that will have full HSPA but not LTE.
It seems to me that the Xperia ZL C6502 has the right frequencies to run faux 4G on AT&T, or as I understand it HSPA. Am I right or wrong? I do know that it will not support LTE like the upcoming C6506 US model.
Thinking about placing an order. I really like how this phone is all display. Just hope development supports this phone.
On paper (or browser) the Z1 Compact looks almost perfect for me. I'm a normal sized person, so the S5, HTC One M8, LG G3 and OnePlus One are a bit wide for comfortable one-handed use. I don't care about the reduced resolution; there's still plenty there. But... no 700MHz band, so no LTE on AT&T.
I'm on Verizon (which I despise) currently, and will switch off it. Does this phone work well with LTE on T-Mobile, and has T-Mobile's suckage reduced enough for it to be a usable carrier now, or should I stick to a phone that will work well with AT&T? (And if you think it's worth T-Mobile, how much and where has your T-Mobile experience been?)
If you ask me this strongly depends on which region you live in.
So I dont know if anybody can help you in an international forum.
For me LTE works like a charm but I live in Germany so....
Wotta said:
I'm on Verizon (which I despise) currently, and will switch off it. Does this phone work well with LTE on T-Mobile, and has T-Mobile's suckage reduced enough for it to be a usable carrier now, or should I stick to a phone that will work well with AT&T? (And if you think it's worth T-Mobile, how much and where has your T-Mobile experience been?)
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i switched from verizon to t-mobile in philly when i got this phone. 4g works fine. also, there's an internet-only $30/month unlimited data and text with 100 minutes plan: you'll have to order an activation kit from the t-mobile website.
Wotta said:
On paper (or browser) the Z1 Compact looks almost perfect for me. I'm a normal sized person, so the S5, HTC One M8, LG G3 and OnePlus One are a bit wide for comfortable one-handed use. I don't care about the reduced resolution; there's still plenty there. But... no 700MHz band, so no LTE on AT&T.
I'm on Verizon (which I despise) currently, and will switch off it. Does this phone work well with LTE on T-Mobile, and has T-Mobile's suckage reduced enough for it to be a usable carrier now, or should I stick to a phone that will work well with AT&T? (And if you think it's worth T-Mobile, how much and where has your T-Mobile experience been?)
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I've been using this phone on T-Mobile for about 5 months now. LTE works fine, but H+ is adequate for my needs so LTE is switched off most of the time. As far as the T-Mobile network, coverage around populated areas has been fine. However, once you get out in the un-populated areas, coverage often drops to 2G or nothing at all. Verizon is superior in this regard. For me, it's not a huge deal and I'll take the $ savings over coverage everywhere. But if coverage outside of the cities is important to you, then I would not recommend T-Mobile.
A better question would be: Is T-Mobile worthy of being on the awesome Xperia Z1 Compact?