Hi all !
I tried to look for a thread talking about that, but I didn't find some ...
I have a problem with my Desire Z, with the physical keyboard.
I need to write specials characters like the : < or the : > and others
But I don't have them on my physical keybord, even if I do the key : FN + Symb I have only few special characters ! where are all of special characters I have with my tactical keyboard ??????
If someone has few informations about that, that would be very helpfull !
Thanks for reading my poor english.
On the G2 i hold Alt and K to for like 2 secs and a small menu will pop up allowing me to do 3 additional characters one of them is >. For the desire z i am guessing my alt button is your FN button. Give that a try
Thanks for the answer.
I tried again to long press on all the keys of the physical keyboard. I have other specials characters with most of the keys but no < or > ....
And for the letter : K , I have only one other character : ?
I dont know why its a : ? ....?!
aznsnake666 said:
On the G2 i hold Alt and K to for like 2 secs and a small menu will pop up allowing me to do 3 additional characters one of them is >. For the desire z i am guessing my alt button is your FN button. Give that a try
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This works the same on the Desire Z
Hold FN & K for 2/3 seconds & a menu pops up with '>'
Hold FN & J for 2/3 seconds & a menu pops up with '<'
Doesn't work on the German version of the DZ...all I get when I press and hold FN-K is:
üüüüüüüüüüüüüüüüüü
...because the German Umlauts sit on jkl. Hoping for an Update...
Maybe I have to say that I have french Desire Z.
I think it's a problem with the localisation of the language .... maybe, maybe not ...
I up the post !
nobody have informations about that ?
Desire Z HW keyboard problem
hi to all,
i have purchased htc desire z from O2 (CR) and also had a problem with HW keyboard, on the second row from the second or third key the special characters were shifted by one key....
O2 wanted to exchange the phone for a new one immediately, but a second phone we unpacked at the store had the same problem....
ive got my money back, and i have no new phone 8((
im so far hesitating to purchase the phone again elsewhere....
I have the german version of the desire z and for > and < you can press the FN key with the key label SYM and an magnifying glass on it
Weird, as my German Desire Z (stock Sense ROM) with German keyboard setting only allows these characters with the SYM button:
'...' ¥ · ® © ± [ ] { } \ |
Holding Fn + something else for two seconds doesn't work for any key.
Same problem.
I dont know if some dev can correct the problem, I think its software and not hardware.
I will try to call HTC to know more about this problem
EDIT :
I just called HTC center. After 30 minutes on the phone, they don't have a solution for me, their best solution was to use the virtual keyboard, I said it is not a solution for me, I bought a HTC Desire Z to always use a physical keyboard, and if some countries don't have this problem, why I have to stay with this problem without doing something. The guy on the phone told me he will send this problem higher and if he has informations he'll call me back.
Maybe people who have the same problem can call HTC to show to HTC that it's a permanent bug, permanent missing option and we need this option back. (I need in fact, but I think I'm not the only one who need the < and > when I use my physical keyboard)
I'll give new informations as soon as I have news
Thx again for reading my f****** poor english
Similar topic is DZ Sym Key Menu.
HTC says its only possible through the virtual keyboard.
cartman09 said:
Similar topic is DZ Sym Key Menu.
HTC says its only possible through the virtual keyboard.
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Yes without doing something it's only possible with virtual keyboard.
But if they do something, they can "fix" that by including < and > in the FN+Symb combo popup.
It's easy to say something like that. But for a customer like me, I can't let them saying that. Why because I'm using a Azerty Desire I dont have these characters and why US people have them correctly with their physical keyboard, in fact there is no problem for US keyboard, only for French keyboard (and I guees German too).
It's not my problem, it's their problem, and I hope they will fix it.
Saying to use the virtual keyboard is a funny joke, when we know that the Desire Z has a physical keyboard ! People you buy this smartphone does it because they don't want to use the virtual keyboard ....
These kinds of answers make me crazy so sorry because its totally stupid and think people are stupid, I AM NOT !
I agree with you. Yes, it is normal to expect that you will be able to input the same characters on the HW keyboard.
I do not understand why they left them out.
Especially weird seems leaving out different characters on different layouts while barely/not using the symbol key and pretty much omitting Shift-Fn-.. combinations...
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Does anyone know if at all possible to swap the Z and Y symbols on a QWERTZ hard kb on an Austrian Dezire Z?
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Work-around (lame but nonetheless)
Hey all,
I ended up here yesterday, also looking for a way to input the "less than" or "greater than" symbols (<, >) on my Desire Z using the physical keyboard.
I don't have a solution, but I have found a workaround that is acceptable to me (until somebody finds out how to add symbols to the SYM list ).
Just enter the symbols as "quick text". Then, you can press then MENU button on your keyboard while typing, press "quick text" on your screen, and then select the symbol you want.
It's a good idea to delete the default quick text messages (unless you actually use them ), so that you won't have to scroll to select your symbols of choice.
I know it's far from perfect, but better than the only other way to get to these symbols. At least for me (Desire Z bought in the Netherlands), I would have to:
1) close phone
2) tap text area to activate onscreen keyboard
3) tap '12#' button
4) tap '1/2' button
5) tap symbol (e.g. '<' or '>')
6) open phone again and continue typing
I also know this is a pretty obvious "workaround", but I thought that the possibility that it might provide some relief to somebody somewhere made it worthwhile typing it out
For the rest, but the way, it's seriously an amazing phone (and OS)! My previous phone was a Touch Pro, with Windows Mobile 6.5 I think (or 6? Don't even remember - and never got around to flashing it, sad as that may be ), and this is amazing. I'm not so much of an Apple person, but I can now for the first time understand what they experienced when they played around with an iPhone or Apple for the first time. The gap in functionality and userfriendliness is mind-boggling.
So, bar the fact that it's not so easy to type "<3" anymore, great phone
< and > characters have been added to the SYM list in the OTA 1.72 version I know this version has been pulled out by HTC but I'm sure the SYM list will also be updated in the next OTA.
But I still can't find the degree symbol. Am I missing something?
Sent from my Vision using XDA App
What still is totally missing is the clause symbol (§). I did not find any way to type this (neither hard- nor softkeyboard). I really hate it, as I need it regularly.
The '<' and '>' characters are available through the C and V chars.
@Becksman: I found § in the 'S' menu.
(Although I'm not sure for the Sense ROM, I'm on Cyanogen 7)
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Everybody listen
Did you try to enter text in various applications which are not default Microsoft? I found out that on the Excalibur/Dash and might be also the same problem on all other full keyboard (landscape) Smartphones, that at those applications the....
WER
SDF
XCV
...keys are being recognized as the nummeric ones like:
123
456
789
This seems to be a bug (hopefully not a feature) at the OS.
I do see this with e.g. Smartphonenotes (quite important to me), VNC Viewer (for Remote Desktop Control) and at some Java Apps like GoogleMaps, the same is with applications based on .NET.
This is a reason why I again take my HTC p4350 (Herald) with me on the road tomorrow, because I need to control my desktop remotely and start my VPN connection to the company, in order to run the emoze client and to receive emails
Guys, believe me, for hardcore users, it is very annoying.
Did anybody hear a solution for this?
I've just tried Smartphone Notes on my Dash & it's working just fine. The default is alpha and pressing function twice shifts them the keyboard into to numeric mode.
I also noticced that. TomTom for example does not recognize these keys as letters. I have to use T9 on these 9 letters.
adhussain said:
I've just tried Smartphone Notes on my Dash & it's working just fine. The default is alpha and pressing function twice shifts them the keyboard into to numeric mode.
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adhussain please in Smartphonenotes please try to save a note which is called e.g. "Laguna" (my note for my car and you will see that you are then not able to search completely using the alpha keys. Also "A" key is then not working.
Fire00, it saves a note called Laguna just fine. 'A' key working fine as well. I dont get what u mean by search completely? I also tried Convert It! and it entered numeric where it was supposed to and in Newscopier it entered alphabets in the fields where it was supposed to. BTW in my earlier post above, i stated that i owned the Dash, where as I actually own the HTC s620, sorry.
it depends on the application, for example tomtom. it would work properly if they updated the app.
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Fire00, it saves a note called Laguna just fine. 'A' key working fine as well. I dont get what u mean by search completely? I also tried Convert It! and it entered numeric where it was supposed to and in Newscopier it entered alphabets in the fields where it was supposed to. BTW in my earlier post above, i stated that i owned the Dash, where as I actually own the HTC s620, sorry.
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What's wrong then with my already second s620 unit?
I wished it would work like you're saying.
OK let's try another one. A note in Smartphonenotes which starts with an "A".
When I press "A" on the alpha-keyboard, it does not react. The key "A" does simply not exist. But when I press the "E (2)" key, it is being recognized as an "A" according to the nummeric (T9) scheme.
The same is in TomTom, the same is in Java based apps like Googlemaps, in .NET based apps like Remote Desktop Control. The issue here is that all these applications do recognize all the keys which do have 2 functions (alpha and nummeric = wer, sdf, xcv) are treated like nummeric ones. And last but not least, the A key on the left (the first one original alpha key) does not work at all in that applications.
fire00 said:
What's wrong then with my already second s620 unit?
I wished it would work like you're saying.
OK let's try another one. A note in Smartphonenotes which starts with an "A".
When I press "A" on the alpha-keyboard, it does not react. The key "A" does simply not exist. But when I press the "E (2)" key, it is being recognized as an "A" according to the nummeric (T9) scheme.
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Note with 'A' also working fine. Sorry i dont have TomTom or a .NET based application, but applications i have work just fine.
Might there be an issue with my ROM? I can say that I'm a quite experienced WM user and wouldn't bother you with this if it was not proved. OK simply forget it, I'm waiting now for the unbranded Treo 750.
fire00 said:
Might there be an issue with my ROM? I can say that I'm a quite experienced WM user and wouldn't bother you with this if it was not proved. OK simply forget it, I'm waiting now for the unbranded Treo 750.
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No bother at all, im glad to be of any assistance. The snag is that im coming from the UIQ platform so don't have much experience on Smartphone.
Text entry issue...cont'
I have a Blackjack and Smartphonenotes installed. Also having the same problem as Fire - e.g. when I press "B", the program lists all my notes beginning with "T". Anybody with a solution? Thanks.
Hi All,
I bought an AT&T 8525 phone and installed WM6. Since then, there some keys that are incorrectly mapped and there is no possibility in the OS to modify them.
The incorrectly set keys are not the standard ones but the ones accessed by pressing the blue dot key (upper marked symbols).
They are: Q displays ! instead of ~
W displays @ instead of !
E displays ? instead of @
A displays _ instead of ;
S displays " instead of -
D displays : instead of _
F displays - instead of ?
Has somebody experienced this and perhaps managed to solve the problem? In the ATT forum there is a CAB file (Shortstring...) but it does not work.
Many Thanks for your support,
I hope this information will be useful for other 8525 users,
Best Regards,
Adriano
Tytn keyboard cab:http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=53517&d=1191857943
8525 keyboard cab:http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=53516&d=1191857943
I have an 8525 and it worked fine for me.
you can also locate and install Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool v1.1, it has many useful features including the one to change the language set of the keyboard... I chose English instead of Cingular, since I don't have the Cingy/ATT branded version... if you have the 8525, then you select the Cingy layout...
I can concur... choosing CINGULAR in Schaps Advanced Config tool fixes the keyboard problem. Thanks Schap
debonairone said:
you can also locate and install Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool v1.1, it has many useful features including the one to change the language set of the keyboard... I chose English instead of Cingular, since I don't have the Cingy/ATT branded version... if you have the 8525, then you select the Cingy layout...
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I have also had this same problem with my 8925. I have tryed everthing suggested, including changing the registry keys myself. I have still yet to figure out how to solve this problem.
So far I have tryed in the Advanced Config Tool:
English Reboot and Nothing
Chinese Reboot and Nothing
Cingular Reboot and Nothing
German Reboot and Nothing
Any other suggestions?
adspi said:
Hi All,
I bought an AT&T 8525 phone and installed WM6. Since then, there some keys that are incorrectly mapped and there is no possibility in the OS to modify them.
The incorrectly set keys are not the standard ones but the ones accessed by pressing the blue dot key (upper marked symbols).
They are: Q displays ! instead of ~
W displays @ instead of !
E displays ? instead of @
A displays _ instead of ;
S displays " instead of -
D displays : instead of _
F displays - instead of ?
Has somebody experienced this and perhaps managed to solve the problem? In the ATT forum there is a CAB file (Shortstring...) but it does not work.
Many Thanks for your support,
I hope this information will be useful for other 8525 users,
Best Regards,
Adriano
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Hold up. Looking closer. I see that what you have listed is the settings I need. Here's what happens on mine
Q Key return @ instead of !
W Key Return ! instead of @
T Key Returns # instead of a *
V Key Returns a * instead of a #
X Key Returns a & insight of a "
S Key Returns a " instead of a ;
D Key Returns a % instead of a :
C Key Returns a : instead of a =
L Key Returns a = instead of &
Again,
I have tryed Advanced Config with most of the languages and still had no luck. Could it have something to do with the ROM?
Found the Answer to all my Problems right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911
Tyman07 said:
dude quit you whining
omg!! my keys are not mapped correctly..
F'in deal with it.. dewd.. who cares you paid like 300+$ or whatever for it...
its not going to be perfect HOE...
Just remeber Harry potter didnt have the best wand when he started..
he worked for it..
So stop sitting on ur hands and giving your self the stranger I.E " sitting on your hands then playing with your self".
And grow a god damn tree...
save the world bro... then you will see just how cool unperfect shiz can be
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Wow. Hope you got all that off your chest .
GL with some more of those productive post.
Thanks XDA for having these forums to allow me to ask questions in order to solve my Phone issues.
Dave
Tyman07 said:
dude quit you whining
omg!! my keys are not mapped correctly..
F'in deal with it.. dewd.. who cares you paid like 300+$ or whatever for it...
its not going to be perfect HOE...
Just remeber Harry potter didnt have the best wand when he started..
he worked for it..
So stop sitting on ur hands and giving your self the stranger I.E " sitting on your hands then playing with your self".
And grow a god damn tree...
save the world bro... then you will see just how cool unperfect shiz can be
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you got brain cells not mapped and apparently the rest of the world has to deal with that!
some people actually have the smarts to fix such things on thier phones however you apparently owning an iPhone wouldnt need to worry about this sort of stuff?!
however it seems you are full of crap somewhere!
Is there any way of getting the £ sign on the keyboard, only have $, I have set the language to English, but does not give me an option for "proper" English or american English.
I remember seeing another post similar to this one. Unless there have been further developments, typing the £ sign takes a few clicks 1) The number key 12# and 2) The 1/2 key.
I remember someone made a customisible keyboard for Windows devices in that you could change many functions of the keyboard layout. Not sure what's available for Android though.
Yeah, its on the 2nd page when you click on the numbers button...annoying as hell!!
They should put a few more signs on the f long keypress (2nd row of characters) than just the dollar sign. Something like $£€ would be better!
Agreed, might be worth emailing them (although they'll prob just ignore it!!)
Thanks Guys, I am sure on my TP2 you could set the region as English UK, which would then give you £ on main keyboard, I suppose that's progress!
According to the outgoing Chief Secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, "There's no money left". Maybe that's why there's no £ sign!!!
You can always install the modified htc keyboard from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663608
It has the functionality of holding the f button and getting the different currency symbols. Also has voice input as its main feature.
MrTMO said:
You can always install the modified htc keyboard from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663608
It has the functionality of holding the f button and getting the different currency symbols. Also has voice input as its main feature.
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Is there a setting I've missed to activate this? Doesn't do that for me and would love it if it could.
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Is there a setting I've missed to activate this? Doesn't do that for me and would love it if it could.
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me 2, i just get the $ sign.
From the keyboard thread...
Q: How do I activate this keyboard?
A: After you installed the keyboard, do long press on a text input field. Then choose HTC IME Mod as input method. You need to do this just once
Hi.
I have a norwegian touch pro 2, which means my keyboard is a bit "strange"and have theese weird æøå buttons. I don't need those to work, but my Fn key, neither my ctrl key (which is placed where your Fn key is placed at the lower left) will not give me access to any Fn function keys like / ! () etc. Is this a know issue? Is there a way for me to fix this?
Ps. Thanks a lot for porting Android to TP2. Except for this and GPS all my needs are satisfied, and Android is so much better to use than WM6.5. So thanks a bunch guys, going to make a small contribution as soon as I get my first paycheck next month
martiert said:
Except for this and GPS
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Whats wrong with your GPS?
lo, and respect!
I have a question regarding the new Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0.
The only reason for me purchasting a desire Z, is for the hardware keboard.
I currently run virtuous, and have some issues
I`m from norway, and we have the letters æ,ø,å
Thise only com as cappital letters and so do the letter i (Æ,Ø,Å,I)
it dosen`t matter if i do a backspace, or anything else. (the only way around it is to close the hardwarekeboard and type the letter with the software one, and then go back to the hardware one) The hardware keboard also only have english as a possible selection of language. (don`t know if this things are "connected")
So, the question: Will this be fixed ?, I hope so, cause I really would like to stay with this ROM. If not fixed, thats ok 2, I would really like 2 know. So that I eventually can seartch for another ROM
did you try long pressing the hardware "a" key to get to Æ and Å and the "o" key to get to Ø... on every rom
master.peterm said:
did you try long pressing the hardware "a" key to get to Æ and Å and the "o" key to get to Ø... on every rom
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Thx for the reply!
I do have the letters. When I type it gos like this: sÅve, lØve. - and I would like it 2 go like this: sove, løve.
The problem is only 2 the letters Æ, Ø, Å and I.
btw
the letter Å - I can get å with Fn Å, obvious that don`t work with the letters Æ, Ø and I
jalla_x said:
btw
the letter Å - I can get å with Fn Å, obvious that don`t work with the letters Æ, Ø and I
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I don't get it, I'm able to get the æ and the ø simply by long press. runing Unity 1.24
Yes, I can also do that.
Here is the thing:
I have a scandinavian hardware keboard - with the lettere æ,ø,å on the keboard.
The keboard is the reason why i got my desire z.
Obvius, I type a lot, having 2 longpress the letter a (and so on) and selekting letter from the meny isn`t any god -takes 2 long time
What I was woundering is if this ROM will come with a scandinavian HW keboard.
Then the problems with my letters will be gone - I think
Btw, thanks for input