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Hello all. New kid on the block here. Just got a TP2 yesterday spent most of the day crawling this forum and landed on the EnergyROM_21885_RHODIUM_17.Dec.2009_StandardM2.5 ROM. All seems to be going well but the ALT key on the slider doesn't work. This is an issue for me due to the strong passwords that I use and switching between the hard and soft keyboards is time consuming.
Does anyone know if there is a fix for this?
P.S. Wish me luck. I am a looooooong time BB user trying to make the switch.
Thanks in advance
Is you TP2 tmo? If it is you may have to use the ctrl key as your alt key. This also happened to me and a freaked out, see if it works.
I believe only the T-Mobile USA TP2 has an ALT key.
Anyway, in this post are some keyboard fixes. If you're using a T-Mobile USA TP2 variant, I attached the keyboard fix for you.
ALT Key
yea I have the same problm wth my device. I bougt it from my frnd. Alt key not working,insted ctrl key is doin its work. but itll be better if i find to alt key as copy and paste option not available in ctrl key. as its doin alt key role.. my set is htc pro2 tmobile wm6.5 manila os . its slow too
stormxbb said:
yea I have the same problm wth my device. I bougt it from my frnd. Alt key not working,insted ctrl key is doin its work. but itll be better if i find to alt key as copy and paste option not available in ctrl key. as its doin alt key role.. my set is htc pro2 tmobile wm6.5 manila os . its slow too
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Are you asking for the T-Mobile keyboard fix? Look one post up from yours.
What's with all the new guys resurrecting old threads lately?
I have tried all three cabs below with zero success! Yes, these cabs remap if that the letters on the hardware keyboard but do nothing for the top row and symbols in blue. I can live without remapping the OK key if thats such a feat but need all other keys at least to be mapped the way they are suppose to be, they way they look on the hardware keyboard. Im sure many other users here will agree with me on this and hopefully others will pitch in as well.
Just looking for a simple cab to install so when i flash a custom rom that i can have FULL use of my hardware keyboard on my att tilt2, no more and no less. I have no knowledge in this stuff or id do it myself rather then provide stickies of a cab that does only half the job!
Since half the keyboard is already remapped, i will start the donation/bounty at $10USD and will add more if this can be done quick. If there's multiple people in on creating this for the community then i will be sure everyone truly involved gets a fair share as well.
Im no techy, just an end user but don't see this task to be complete rocket science.
What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.
carhigh said:
What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.
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Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?
I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.
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I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.
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Are you saying the top row works fine and every blue symbol key in conjuction with the FN key works fine as well? What rom are you running? Makes no sense to me. Making me think i have one bunk device since ive tested this with a fresh flash without installing anything else.
deeznuts said:
Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?
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I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.
DuMnUt101 said:
I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.
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What rom are u using including build? I used the mort pacakge just as u described after a fresh flash of nrgs latest rom of build 23518 on wm6.5.3 standard sense 2.1 and nothing bro! Only keys that work right for me are the letter keys, comma, period, and question mark. Well FN, shift are also mapped correctly as well. Every key on the top row is numbers 1-0 and the blue symbol keys are all over the place! This is killing me!
No, you dont need to explain. I understood your post and as you can see, i am on a custom rom with the tilt 2 and all my buttons work perfect, except for the OK key. I also use the first cab in your OP. As for dialing, as pointed out by a respose here, have no clue if mine works that way. I use the onscreen dialer.
Something must be wrong with your phone!!!!
Im using NRGZ's Leo Rom the 21885 version from 12/31.... It could be an issue with the 23518 builds. The OK button has never worked but dont really need it. I would try it on a 21885 build and if it doesnt work it sounds like device specific. You also could flash a Stock Rom back on then back to a Custom one sometimes some of the previous system files arent removed correctly I have heard.
I have an att tilt 2 as well, and after flashing any rom other then att my keyboard is all wrong also, mainly the top row, and the Fn keys. Its pretty funny though without a remap, my shift key works as the FN key, and my OK key works as a shift key, which I find funny. But attached is the cab I always have used every time, and every key with the exception of the OK key works, I have tested this 1,000,000 times. If this cab doesnt work (Which I think could be the third cab in your list but not sure), then you have a bad keyboard.
I have used this cab with, the stock EU rom, nrgz roms, valkyrie's roms, Arks roms.
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!
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Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!
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Most people will think you are crazy, most tilt2 people want the standard tp2 keyboard. but to your question: since the ok button doesnt work, I mapped "OK" using keyboard config to be a CTRL button
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I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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Is it the ATT keypad.dll? and you just open it with a text editor like notepad or something? I have been searching and it seems like that is what I should be looking for but I just want to make sure. Thanks in advance.
Sorry Deeznuts, but either you aren't explaining it right (which I think you are) or (more likely) there is something wrong. I have a Tilt 2\ATT and the keyboard fix cabs do work in every ROM I have installed. (With the exeption of only about three blue keys like the shortcut to mail or the internet.) There is either something wrong with your device or the ROM that you are using. I suggest you start over with a different ROM to test your keyboard, maybe use a stock ROM to be sure. There is also a prog called Rhodium Keyboard Control (RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.cab) that might be of use. Good luck.
I've been using the Tilt2HWKeyboard.cab and all the symbols and numbers work fine.
OK button does not work, sometimes it launches opera, other times i get error message with something about start.exe
FN+Left arrow (supposed to be calendar) Launches opera
FN+Down arrow (supposed to launch internet browser) does nothing
FN+Right arrow (supposed to turn on wifi) opens up comm manager.
I don't mind that those are off, but would prefer the OK button to work and also PTT button does not work at all.
I'm down to put in $10 as well to get a cab that has the full use of the HW keyboard + PTT button
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I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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I was looking at that text files, and it appears to be mapped correctly, but the top row is still messed up for me and the blue function keys are not correct either.
Can you post how you modified the text file please?
Mine works fine. I used instructions from a certain thread. I first installed the Tilt2HWKeyboard cab. I then installed a cab called SdkCerts. Then I installed a cab called RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.
$20 for 1 single step install at&t tilt2 keyboard ALL BUTTONS MUST WORK INCLUDING PTT AND OK BUTTON I DONT CARE IF IS A MORT SCRIPT A CAB OR XML
Hes NOT CRAZY lol
I have the same exact issue. ive tried different cabs to no change except . ? , still sont know where the hell at symbol is... I GOT 10 usd for a working cab or a soloution where every key works as should...besides a stock re flash!
What apps are you running bro? Im running the apr8 nrg rom too. idk! dont make sense to me. but even when i ran stock rom keys would switch to this configuratio noccasionally in txt msging!
i would close all the way out of txt and open it back up and keys back to normal. Im seriously about burned out on hunting fixes for these damned phones, stock and otherwise. Ive owned every HTC w a slide keyboard that att offered since 8125 (wizard)
and played hunt and fix on every single one. seriously, what other product would u pay 400 plus dollars for and then spennd countless hours searching for fixes just to make it work properly
I know it has got to be something simple, but I want an SSH server on the Andriod OS, but to do so I need access to keys chars such as / and " ..., but I can not get the FN key which should be in the "Shift Ctrl" position to work. Best solution would be to have the keyboard mapping exactly as it appears on the Tilt2, second best would be to have it work with a standard mapping and not AT&T's. yet so far I can figure out neither.
Thanks,
ERIC
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I know it has got to be something simple, but I want an SSH server on the Andriod OS, but to do so I need access to keys chars such as / and " ..., but I can not get the FN key which should be in the "Shift Ctrl" position to work. Best solution would be to have the keyboard mapping exactly as it appears on the Tilt2, second best would be to have it work with a standard mapping and not AT&T's. yet so far I can figure out neither.
Thanks,
ERIC
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When I use the Tilt2 keyboard mapping when booting into Android, I have a fully functional Tilt2 keyboard, including the Fn keys...
Do you have this entry in your startup.txt set cmdline section?:
physkeyboard=tilt2
egandt said:
I know it has got to be something simple, but I want an SSH server on the Andriod OS, but to do so I need access to keys chars such as / and " ..., but I can not get the FN key which should be in the "Shift Ctrl" position to work. Best solution would be to have the keyboard mapping exactly as it appears on the Tilt2, second best would be to have it work with a standard mapping and not AT&T's. yet so far I can figure out neither.
Thanks,
ERIC
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Im looking at my keyboard right now, and neither the / nor the " require the FN key to use them.... they are their own button. On top of that, my FN key works perfect, otherwise I wouldnt be able to use the numberpad. So what exactly are you talking about? lol
The "Tilt2" is only the name for the AT&T branded TP2. If you have a different handset other than that, you need to match that to the device you have using the startup utility (MJGDroidUtil.exe).
I'm gonna guess he is just running the harret.exe and not the util that lets you set your config. you need to run the the other exe mjutil something or other and it will let you pick your keyboard then it should all work fine
I swapped my ATT tilt 2 keyboard with the much better Verizon keyboard.
I found a cab for fixing the keyboard layout for verizon.
Everything is great... except the FN and SYM keys seem to be swapped.
All other keys are correct.
anyone familiar with this?
Looks like NRG no longer includes his keyboard mapping cabs with the roms since they are in the provisioning cabs now. I dont want to provision for VZW since it's an ATT phone. I'm pretty sure the cab I used was the old VZW Remapper of his anyway.
This is what you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
You can re-map any key with this, including the useless PTT button (you can remap it to do something useful).
x51 said:
I swapped my ATT tilt 2 keyboard with the much better Verizon keyboard.
I found a cab for fixing the keyboard layout for verizon.
Everything is great... except the FN and SYM keys seem to be swapped.
All other keys are correct.
anyone familiar with this?
Looks like NRG no longer includes his keyboard mapping cabs with the roms since they are in the provisioning cabs now. I dont want to provision for VZW since it's an ATT phone. I'm pretty sure the cab I used was the old VZW Remapper of his anyway.
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pls can you tell me where the verizon 6875 keyboard fix is?
looking for this a long time
many thanks!
velveteen said:
pls can you tell me where the verizon 6875 keyboard fix is?
looking for this a long time
many thanks!
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I put the following into google: Verizon Touch pro 2 keyboard cab
It's the first result.
3rd post
You haven't looked very hard...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-pro-2/106648-verizon-keyboard-layout-cab.html
redpoint73 said:
This is what you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
You can re-map any key with this, including the useless PTT button (you can remap it to do something useful).
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Thanks redpoint.. I have this already and tried it. I actually use it to remap the PTT button
I cant find a way to remap FN though.
When I add a button to remap, it asks me to press the button I want remapped. It does not respond to Shift or FN since they are modifiers.
I cant find the codes to configure it manually either.
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I put the following into google: Verizon Touch pro 2 keyboard cab
It's the first result.
3rd post
You haven't looked very hard...
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thanks
but i have downloaded this before, but still dos not work well
Hi all !
I tried to look for a thread talking about that, but I didn't find some ...
I have a problem with my Desire Z, with the physical keyboard.
I need to write specials characters like the : < or the : > and others
But I don't have them on my physical keybord, even if I do the key : FN + Symb I have only few special characters ! where are all of special characters I have with my tactical keyboard ??????
If someone has few informations about that, that would be very helpfull !
Thanks for reading my poor english.
On the G2 i hold Alt and K to for like 2 secs and a small menu will pop up allowing me to do 3 additional characters one of them is >. For the desire z i am guessing my alt button is your FN button. Give that a try
Thanks for the answer.
I tried again to long press on all the keys of the physical keyboard. I have other specials characters with most of the keys but no < or > ....
And for the letter : K , I have only one other character : ?
I dont know why its a : ? ....?!
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On the G2 i hold Alt and K to for like 2 secs and a small menu will pop up allowing me to do 3 additional characters one of them is >. For the desire z i am guessing my alt button is your FN button. Give that a try
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This works the same on the Desire Z
Hold FN & K for 2/3 seconds & a menu pops up with '>'
Hold FN & J for 2/3 seconds & a menu pops up with '<'
Doesn't work on the German version of the DZ...all I get when I press and hold FN-K is:
üüüüüüüüüüüüüüüüüü
...because the German Umlauts sit on jkl. Hoping for an Update...
Maybe I have to say that I have french Desire Z.
I think it's a problem with the localisation of the language .... maybe, maybe not ...
I up the post !
nobody have informations about that ?
Desire Z HW keyboard problem
hi to all,
i have purchased htc desire z from O2 (CR) and also had a problem with HW keyboard, on the second row from the second or third key the special characters were shifted by one key....
O2 wanted to exchange the phone for a new one immediately, but a second phone we unpacked at the store had the same problem....
ive got my money back, and i have no new phone 8((
im so far hesitating to purchase the phone again elsewhere....
I have the german version of the desire z and for > and < you can press the FN key with the key label SYM and an magnifying glass on it
Weird, as my German Desire Z (stock Sense ROM) with German keyboard setting only allows these characters with the SYM button:
'...' ¥ · ® © ± [ ] { } \ |
Holding Fn + something else for two seconds doesn't work for any key.
Same problem.
I dont know if some dev can correct the problem, I think its software and not hardware.
I will try to call HTC to know more about this problem
EDIT :
I just called HTC center. After 30 minutes on the phone, they don't have a solution for me, their best solution was to use the virtual keyboard, I said it is not a solution for me, I bought a HTC Desire Z to always use a physical keyboard, and if some countries don't have this problem, why I have to stay with this problem without doing something. The guy on the phone told me he will send this problem higher and if he has informations he'll call me back.
Maybe people who have the same problem can call HTC to show to HTC that it's a permanent bug, permanent missing option and we need this option back. (I need in fact, but I think I'm not the only one who need the < and > when I use my physical keyboard)
I'll give new informations as soon as I have news
Thx again for reading my f****** poor english
Similar topic is DZ Sym Key Menu.
HTC says its only possible through the virtual keyboard.
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Similar topic is DZ Sym Key Menu.
HTC says its only possible through the virtual keyboard.
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Yes without doing something it's only possible with virtual keyboard.
But if they do something, they can "fix" that by including < and > in the FN+Symb combo popup.
It's easy to say something like that. But for a customer like me, I can't let them saying that. Why because I'm using a Azerty Desire I dont have these characters and why US people have them correctly with their physical keyboard, in fact there is no problem for US keyboard, only for French keyboard (and I guees German too).
It's not my problem, it's their problem, and I hope they will fix it.
Saying to use the virtual keyboard is a funny joke, when we know that the Desire Z has a physical keyboard ! People you buy this smartphone does it because they don't want to use the virtual keyboard ....
These kinds of answers make me crazy so sorry because its totally stupid and think people are stupid, I AM NOT !
I agree with you. Yes, it is normal to expect that you will be able to input the same characters on the HW keyboard.
I do not understand why they left them out.
Especially weird seems leaving out different characters on different layouts while barely/not using the symbol key and pretty much omitting Shift-Fn-.. combinations...
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Does anyone know if at all possible to swap the Z and Y symbols on a QWERTZ hard kb on an Austrian Dezire Z?
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Work-around (lame but nonetheless)
Hey all,
I ended up here yesterday, also looking for a way to input the "less than" or "greater than" symbols (<, >) on my Desire Z using the physical keyboard.
I don't have a solution, but I have found a workaround that is acceptable to me (until somebody finds out how to add symbols to the SYM list ).
Just enter the symbols as "quick text". Then, you can press then MENU button on your keyboard while typing, press "quick text" on your screen, and then select the symbol you want.
It's a good idea to delete the default quick text messages (unless you actually use them ), so that you won't have to scroll to select your symbols of choice.
I know it's far from perfect, but better than the only other way to get to these symbols. At least for me (Desire Z bought in the Netherlands), I would have to:
1) close phone
2) tap text area to activate onscreen keyboard
3) tap '12#' button
4) tap '1/2' button
5) tap symbol (e.g. '<' or '>')
6) open phone again and continue typing
I also know this is a pretty obvious "workaround", but I thought that the possibility that it might provide some relief to somebody somewhere made it worthwhile typing it out
For the rest, but the way, it's seriously an amazing phone (and OS)! My previous phone was a Touch Pro, with Windows Mobile 6.5 I think (or 6? Don't even remember - and never got around to flashing it, sad as that may be ), and this is amazing. I'm not so much of an Apple person, but I can now for the first time understand what they experienced when they played around with an iPhone or Apple for the first time. The gap in functionality and userfriendliness is mind-boggling.
So, bar the fact that it's not so easy to type "<3" anymore, great phone
< and > characters have been added to the SYM list in the OTA 1.72 version I know this version has been pulled out by HTC but I'm sure the SYM list will also be updated in the next OTA.
But I still can't find the degree symbol. Am I missing something?
Sent from my Vision using XDA App
What still is totally missing is the clause symbol (§). I did not find any way to type this (neither hard- nor softkeyboard). I really hate it, as I need it regularly.
The '<' and '>' characters are available through the C and V chars.
@Becksman: I found § in the 'S' menu.
(Although I'm not sure for the Sense ROM, I'm on Cyanogen 7)