Text Entry Issue (nummeric keys) with Non-WM apps - HTC Excalibur

Everybody listen
Did you try to enter text in various applications which are not default Microsoft? I found out that on the Excalibur/Dash and might be also the same problem on all other full keyboard (landscape) Smartphones, that at those applications the....
WER
SDF
XCV
...keys are being recognized as the nummeric ones like:
123
456
789
This seems to be a bug (hopefully not a feature) at the OS.
I do see this with e.g. Smartphonenotes (quite important to me), VNC Viewer (for Remote Desktop Control) and at some Java Apps like GoogleMaps, the same is with applications based on .NET.
This is a reason why I again take my HTC p4350 (Herald) with me on the road tomorrow, because I need to control my desktop remotely and start my VPN connection to the company, in order to run the emoze client and to receive emails
Guys, believe me, for hardcore users, it is very annoying.
Did anybody hear a solution for this?

I've just tried Smartphone Notes on my Dash & it's working just fine. The default is alpha and pressing function twice shifts them the keyboard into to numeric mode.

I also noticced that. TomTom for example does not recognize these keys as letters. I have to use T9 on these 9 letters.

adhussain said:
I've just tried Smartphone Notes on my Dash & it's working just fine. The default is alpha and pressing function twice shifts them the keyboard into to numeric mode.
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adhussain please in Smartphonenotes please try to save a note which is called e.g. "Laguna" (my note for my car and you will see that you are then not able to search completely using the alpha keys. Also "A" key is then not working.

Fire00, it saves a note called Laguna just fine. 'A' key working fine as well. I dont get what u mean by search completely? I also tried Convert It! and it entered numeric where it was supposed to and in Newscopier it entered alphabets in the fields where it was supposed to. BTW in my earlier post above, i stated that i owned the Dash, where as I actually own the HTC s620, sorry.

it depends on the application, for example tomtom. it would work properly if they updated the app.

adhussain said:
Fire00, it saves a note called Laguna just fine. 'A' key working fine as well. I dont get what u mean by search completely? I also tried Convert It! and it entered numeric where it was supposed to and in Newscopier it entered alphabets in the fields where it was supposed to. BTW in my earlier post above, i stated that i owned the Dash, where as I actually own the HTC s620, sorry.
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What's wrong then with my already second s620 unit?
I wished it would work like you're saying.
OK let's try another one. A note in Smartphonenotes which starts with an "A".
When I press "A" on the alpha-keyboard, it does not react. The key "A" does simply not exist. But when I press the "E (2)" key, it is being recognized as an "A" according to the nummeric (T9) scheme.
The same is in TomTom, the same is in Java based apps like Googlemaps, in .NET based apps like Remote Desktop Control. The issue here is that all these applications do recognize all the keys which do have 2 functions (alpha and nummeric = wer, sdf, xcv) are treated like nummeric ones. And last but not least, the A key on the left (the first one original alpha key) does not work at all in that applications.

fire00 said:
What's wrong then with my already second s620 unit?
I wished it would work like you're saying.
OK let's try another one. A note in Smartphonenotes which starts with an "A".
When I press "A" on the alpha-keyboard, it does not react. The key "A" does simply not exist. But when I press the "E (2)" key, it is being recognized as an "A" according to the nummeric (T9) scheme.
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Note with 'A' also working fine. Sorry i dont have TomTom or a .NET based application, but applications i have work just fine.

Might there be an issue with my ROM? I can say that I'm a quite experienced WM user and wouldn't bother you with this if it was not proved. OK simply forget it, I'm waiting now for the unbranded Treo 750.

fire00 said:
Might there be an issue with my ROM? I can say that I'm a quite experienced WM user and wouldn't bother you with this if it was not proved. OK simply forget it, I'm waiting now for the unbranded Treo 750.
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No bother at all, im glad to be of any assistance. The snag is that im coming from the UIQ platform so don't have much experience on Smartphone.

Text entry issue...cont'
I have a Blackjack and Smartphonenotes installed. Also having the same problem as Fire - e.g. when I press "B", the program lists all my notes beginning with "T". Anybody with a solution? Thanks.

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Auto Text or Auto Correct Applications

I've been using my Dash on the weekends at certain times instead of my tytn and I am desperately looking for an autotext or autocorrect applicaton. Basically, I do a tremendous amount of emails on my phone and this application allows me to type in three letters in an email like "mrq" and have it replaced with "meeting request" or "btw" and replace it with "by the way". I use Kai' autocorrect.net on my tytn and it lets me write emails so much faster.
the xt9 on the dash is an annoyance and does not perform the same function.
Qoolapps makes qcaps and qcorrect, but it only works on the motorola q.
Bumping this up to the top again. If anyone has any suggestions, please help. I really need this.
Bump here --- (AUTOTEXT solutions for WM5/6)
I have used Kai Autocorrect but recently it seems to have issues with some of the WM6 ROM's - can't pin it down so input on that would be great.
But also if there are any other options - it amazes me this is such a simple yet killer app for the BB .... example type bb = Blackberry .. type wm = WindowsMobile.... thxm = Thanks Much!
Not using mouse stylus and all that jazz just on the fly word conversion and completion with a self defined library of words. AutoCorrect again does most but has not been updated in a long time.
Thanks for anything ---
I am confused, too: used it on a Excalibur? I thought it runs only on PPC??
ckolibab said:
I have used Kai Autocorrect but recently it seems to have issues with some of the WM6 ROM's - can't pin it down so input on that would be great.
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Thanks for anything ---
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XT9 (DB edit) or Autocorrect alternative.....
Correct -
The issue is the WM6 Smartphone version and PPC versions differ in how they do Autocorrect - which for many is brutal pain..... the PPC version has in /windows a hidden file called autocorrect.0409.txt which can be manipulated to add/delete words from your dictionary and you can control it.
The Smartphone/WM6 since it uses ughhhl XT9 yada it uses a different DB which is apparently tough to edit - manipulate - to anything with.
As much as I wish the Smartphone worked like the PPC, I think I am hoping for a prayer here that won't happen - so I see only 2 options that would get us close to that:
1 - Some way to get control to add/edit change this XT9 DB
2 - An add-in app (which I have asked a Dev to look at but says its rough) to run resident and give us the same as what exists on the PPC/WM6 on the smartphone.
The sad part is all in all I could see the SmartPhone needing this even MORE since it's keyboards are usually smaller any anything to minimize keystrokes is key.
This is so sad --- Anyone that can help I would be so grateful. Even if there is some way to port some of the WM6/PPC ROM components over would be VERY NICE!!!
bump
A call to all developers ... this is the only thing I miss from my BlackBerry ....
Someone must be able to amend either QCaps or MagicKBLite to work?

New HTC Touch Keyboard

And the horses are off:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=input-pocketcm-sip-keyboard-for-thumb-use-with-htc-touch
mmicha said:
And the horses are off:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=input-pocketcm-sip-keyboard-for-thumb-use-with-htc-touch
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you can go to:
http://www.pocketcm.com/dl.php
and Download PocketCM Keyboard
it is free
enjoy
edward
has this software been tested on the hermes with wm6??
yes it works perfectly. ive been using it since yesterday and its definitely much better than the pre-installed default keyboard. i especially like the way it auto-corrects my frequent typo's
tiptoekirk said:
has this software been tested on the hermes with wm6??
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works very nice
What, the link is down?
Did it get xda'd? lol
Been using it for a few weeks.. Skinable and very easy to type with. In fact you can just slide your finger around and let go when you see the key you are looking for highlited..
Another thing you should look into is PocketCM...
http://www.pocketcm.com/
CONTACTS replacement!!! I like this even more then their keyboard solution.. Imagine the iPhone contacts slide you see everywhere, and you have pocketCM. One of the best features is the A-Z on the left side to quick jump.
Draven
How do you install this on hermes w/WM6? When I go into settings / input and change to PCM keyboard it says " Pocket CM keyboard has to be the current sip in order to configure it? what do I do?
Just click the little triangle beside your keyboard icon (bottom middle of bar) and select PCM Keyboard. That should do it...
i have been using the pocket CM k/b since yesterday and ts a quantum leap forward from any other k/b that is available. Its a must have for any Windows mobile user. It works on all PPC phones!
There is also a contact manager from the same author. You can use your fingers to scroll through and select contacts. I use that as well. It works great! It is called pocketCM. URL: http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
I've installed it and it shows up in the list of available input devices but selecting it does nothing at all. The keyboard doesn't change visually onscreen and if I check the current input device it still shows the standard keyboard.
I can go into it's options and play around with things but if I change the Input Method to PCM Keyboard and click OK, it still doesn't switch over.
Running Schap's WM6 Pro 3.60a ROM.
Tried soft resets, tried installing to main memory and to storage.
Running 0.6 version.
Douginoz.
same problem here
What a bummer.
Too bad the Hermes doesn't have either a slide out keyboard, Block Recognizer, Letter Recognizer or Transcriber.
MHC48 said:
What a bummer.
Too bad the Hermes doesn't have either a slide out keyboard, Block Recognizer, Letter Recognizer or Transcriber.
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I don't think sarcasm is called for; this looks like a neat keyboard that works better than the stock one for those times that you dont want to slide out or use the stylus.
douginoz said:
I've installed it and it shows up in the list of available input devices but selecting it does nothing at all. The keyboard doesn't change visually onscreen and if I check the current input device it still shows the standard keyboard.
I can go into it's options and play around with things but if I change the Input Method to PCM Keyboard and click OK, it still doesn't switch over.
Running Schap's WM6 Pro 3.60a ROM.
Tried soft resets, tried installing to main memory and to storage.
Running 0.6 version.
Douginoz.
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Strange, I installed it on my 8525 (see sig for ROM info), and it worked fine. Of course my fat fingers don't let me use it all too well... But then again, I have the same problems with an iPhone and even the slide-out keyboard on the Hermes. I actually find the Letter Recognizer to work quite well for me, but it's a matter of personal preference (I was a big fan of Graffiti on the Palm, but Graffiti 2 was abysmal.)
-- Joe
keyboard on startup
Is there anyway to make this the default keyboard? When i reset my phone, it goes back to the standard keyboard
I'm in love with this keyboard! I had downloaded and installed the first version a couple weeks ago and liked it enough to use occaisonally. I felt like it had great potential and just needed a little polishing. But this new version, .6, is awesome! Perfect. I'm gonna use it all the time except when typing sms with the palm threaded app. I'll slide out the hardware keyboard on my hermes for that.
As soon as someone fixes the palm threaded app so that the SIP keyboard doesn't cover up the text you're inputting, I'll use this new PCMkeyboard there, too. And I'll send a hefty donation to that person that fixes the palm app.
donation on the way to this PCM guy, too.
Does anyone know if this keyboard supports other languages' input methods?
Under the options, there's a select box for "Keyboard layout" which includes:
Czech
English
Francais
German
Polish
Russian
Spanish

Fn Key settings (as found on Blackjack II) really cool please comment

Please politely point me in the right direction if i haven't looked hard enough, but i found this on
http://www.keithelder.net/blog/archive/2008/09/04/BlackJack-II-Windows-Mobile-6.1-Review.aspx
is there any way to get this on the excalibur/dash?
"A little known feature is the FN key settings. From the home screen you can press combinations of “fn-{key}” and launch a program directly. After an install I setup several to hot launch including RSA, Twittery, Internet Explorer and Skyfire."
"Choose a keypad assignment and an application. Note you can type the first letter of the application in the value box to just to that app. Once set, when on the home screen type fn-{key} and that app will launch."
hopefully, i am late and this has already been ported to the dash.
please let me know
As far as I know, and what from I've seen looking around in the BJII ROM, that is a custom function of Samsung's keyboard driver, which wouldn't be compatible with the Dash. Why not use Smarttoolkit or the countless other keyboard hotkey managers outthere ?
Thanks for your help and kindness. I haven't received my phone yet but i do want to say that i am migrating over from the iPhone which i salivated over until i actually used one for 8 months; Unlocked/Jailbroken etc... I just wanted to know what was out there in order to make my transition as easy as possible. If you or anyone knows of any other tools out there that may be useful to me please let me know. Again, thanks NRG, for your help.

ATT Tilt2 Full Hardware Keyboard Remap *BOUNTY*

I have tried all three cabs below with zero success! Yes, these cabs remap if that the letters on the hardware keyboard but do nothing for the top row and symbols in blue. I can live without remapping the OK key if thats such a feat but need all other keys at least to be mapped the way they are suppose to be, they way they look on the hardware keyboard. Im sure many other users here will agree with me on this and hopefully others will pitch in as well.
Just looking for a simple cab to install so when i flash a custom rom that i can have FULL use of my hardware keyboard on my att tilt2, no more and no less. I have no knowledge in this stuff or id do it myself rather then provide stickies of a cab that does only half the job!
Since half the keyboard is already remapped, i will start the donation/bounty at $10USD and will add more if this can be done quick. If there's multiple people in on creating this for the community then i will be sure everyone truly involved gets a fair share as well.
Im no techy, just an end user but don't see this task to be complete rocket science.
What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.
carhigh said:
What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.
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Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?
I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.
u921333 said:
I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.
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Are you saying the top row works fine and every blue symbol key in conjuction with the FN key works fine as well? What rom are you running? Makes no sense to me. Making me think i have one bunk device since ive tested this with a fresh flash without installing anything else.
deeznuts said:
Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?
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I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.
DuMnUt101 said:
I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.
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What rom are u using including build? I used the mort pacakge just as u described after a fresh flash of nrgs latest rom of build 23518 on wm6.5.3 standard sense 2.1 and nothing bro! Only keys that work right for me are the letter keys, comma, period, and question mark. Well FN, shift are also mapped correctly as well. Every key on the top row is numbers 1-0 and the blue symbol keys are all over the place! This is killing me!
No, you dont need to explain. I understood your post and as you can see, i am on a custom rom with the tilt 2 and all my buttons work perfect, except for the OK key. I also use the first cab in your OP. As for dialing, as pointed out by a respose here, have no clue if mine works that way. I use the onscreen dialer.
Something must be wrong with your phone!!!!
Im using NRGZ's Leo Rom the 21885 version from 12/31.... It could be an issue with the 23518 builds. The OK button has never worked but dont really need it. I would try it on a 21885 build and if it doesnt work it sounds like device specific. You also could flash a Stock Rom back on then back to a Custom one sometimes some of the previous system files arent removed correctly I have heard.
I have an att tilt 2 as well, and after flashing any rom other then att my keyboard is all wrong also, mainly the top row, and the Fn keys. Its pretty funny though without a remap, my shift key works as the FN key, and my OK key works as a shift key, which I find funny. But attached is the cab I always have used every time, and every key with the exception of the OK key works, I have tested this 1,000,000 times. If this cab doesnt work (Which I think could be the third cab in your list but not sure), then you have a bad keyboard.
I have used this cab with, the stock EU rom, nrgz roms, valkyrie's roms, Arks roms.
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
little hijack
Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!
pjm77 said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!
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Most people will think you are crazy, most tilt2 people want the standard tp2 keyboard. but to your question: since the ok button doesnt work, I mapped "OK" using keyboard config to be a CTRL button
blowy666 said:
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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Is it the ATT keypad.dll? and you just open it with a text editor like notepad or something? I have been searching and it seems like that is what I should be looking for but I just want to make sure. Thanks in advance.
Sorry Deeznuts, but either you aren't explaining it right (which I think you are) or (more likely) there is something wrong. I have a Tilt 2\ATT and the keyboard fix cabs do work in every ROM I have installed. (With the exeption of only about three blue keys like the shortcut to mail or the internet.) There is either something wrong with your device or the ROM that you are using. I suggest you start over with a different ROM to test your keyboard, maybe use a stock ROM to be sure. There is also a prog called Rhodium Keyboard Control (RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.cab) that might be of use. Good luck.
I've been using the Tilt2HWKeyboard.cab and all the symbols and numbers work fine.
OK button does not work, sometimes it launches opera, other times i get error message with something about start.exe
FN+Left arrow (supposed to be calendar) Launches opera
FN+Down arrow (supposed to launch internet browser) does nothing
FN+Right arrow (supposed to turn on wifi) opens up comm manager.
I don't mind that those are off, but would prefer the OK button to work and also PTT button does not work at all.
I'm down to put in $10 as well to get a cab that has the full use of the HW keyboard + PTT button
blowy666 said:
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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I was looking at that text files, and it appears to be mapped correctly, but the top row is still messed up for me and the blue function keys are not correct either.
Can you post how you modified the text file please?
Mine works fine. I used instructions from a certain thread. I first installed the Tilt2HWKeyboard cab. I then installed a cab called SdkCerts. Then I installed a cab called RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.
$20 for 1 single step install at&t tilt2 keyboard ALL BUTTONS MUST WORK INCLUDING PTT AND OK BUTTON I DONT CARE IF IS A MORT SCRIPT A CAB OR XML
Hes NOT CRAZY lol
I have the same exact issue. ive tried different cabs to no change except . ? , still sont know where the hell at symbol is... I GOT 10 usd for a working cab or a soloution where every key works as should...besides a stock re flash!
What apps are you running bro? Im running the apr8 nrg rom too. idk! dont make sense to me. but even when i ran stock rom keys would switch to this configuratio noccasionally in txt msging!
i would close all the way out of txt and open it back up and keys back to normal. Im seriously about burned out on hunting fixes for these damned phones, stock and otherwise. Ive owned every HTC w a slide keyboard that att offered since 8125 (wizard)
and played hunt and fix on every single one. seriously, what other product would u pay 400 plus dollars for and then spennd countless hours searching for fixes just to make it work properly

aDosbox fixed for G2 keyboard

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1VD5urJF8c-YzMxOWNlYWYtODFhMi00NWRkLWIyMzMtMDU3YTExM2RlNjli&hl=en
It is the latest updated version of Dosbox from adosbox.googlecode.com, with keys mapped to match the G2 keyboard. It's my first actual packaged Android app, so hopefully I didn't screw anything up.
Mouse support is disabled, only the left ALT key works to access extended characters, and the ALT key seems to become stuck if you hold it down for too long, but you can un-stick it by pressing it once and releasing.
The track pad is a little too sensitive for my liking, but a few CGA games I tried seem to work well (Telengard, Ultima IV, Legacy of the Ancients.)
You'll need to put DOSBOX.CONF from adosbox.googlecode.com in the root folder of your sdcard.
I don't make any promises as to whether this works or how well it works!
*edit*
Just to clarify, this is not MY port, all I did was take someone else's hard work and fix keymappings for the G2.
Also, no matter what you set the CPU cycles to, it seems to run as fast as it possibly can. It consumes 100% CPU usage and does not hibernate in the background when you switch apps, so be careful!
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sweet!
DOSbox!
thx
Has this worked for anyone?
This worked for me, which is great. Made it easier to play with.
It is a tad slow, and there is no sound, but hey, it's dosbox on a friggin cell phone!
The real problem with this port is the lack of a good way to do savestates in DosBox. Since the video hardware can be weird and restoring its state can be tricky there is no official support for saves states in DosBox at all, although there have been some patches.
Anyway, I'm getting off topic here. Thanks for the work fixing the keyboard.
How did you do this? I have a motorola Flipside and I would like to fix the adosbox key mappings for it. Is there anything I can do with settings like the Mapper.txt file, or does it require modifying the code? (I know its not the best phone but my family is on att and they are paying the bill)
I was able to work around not having colon by using this keymap file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837002 and then changing SEARCH to SEMICOLON
Other then this i didn't see any other characters that weren't there (even though some were presented incorrectly)
I am new to adosbox, does this mean I could finally run windows 3.1net on my G2? Lookout ms paint, here I come!
Wait, no mouse? Bummer.
Sent from my HTC Vision with CM 6.1 and Pershoot's Kernel.
keenerb:
How did you modified the bindings? I've changed left and right arrow keys mappings to shift and dot in mapper-0.74.map but it has disabled trackpad x axis
And do you know which codes have these two shortcut keys (that ones with three dots and numbers)?
I'm trying to remap keys for adosbox 0.2.5
Greetings.
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I've managed to change the:
Left FN - it's recognised as Left alt key
Left Shift
Tab
...as 3 of 4 arrow keys.
This disables trackpad scrolling however.
But it let's for playing dos games like Hocus Pocus and so on where you need arrow keys.
Do you (or anyone) know what are the numbers of following keys?:
Keyboard menu key
Shortcut key 1
Shortcut key 2
Search key
Sym key
We've got much room to bind.
Or maybe anyone knows where or how to check those numbers?
I know you are not the original author of the android port of DOSBox but I just cannot get any replies from the person listed as the author and I need to find out how to change things like the display resolution, etc.and thought you might know.
I have a dos program that runs fine on my DOSBox 0.74 installed on my Windows 7 laptop. But every time I try to run it on aDOSBox installed on my rooted android 2.3.4 phone, aDOSBox crashes and throws me out into android. I need to find out how to find out what is causing the crash. I think it might be the display but am not sure. Can you help?
Thanks.

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