Hello All,
When I first got my desire back in April from Orange UK, I had the default Eclair build. I rooted and moved to a Froyo custom ROm and Radio and found I was locked out of my own network as the ROM was of course De-Branded. At the time I paid and got an unlock code.
I recently had to send my phone back for Warranty repair with HTC and they have returned it to me, once again with the current Orange ROM/Radio versions and having changed some inards, I now have a new IMEI number too. I have so far tried two unlock sites but both came back with a "sorry we don't have a code for that IMEI" and so I am very wary of putting another custom ROM on my device in case I get SIM locked out of my own network again.
My question is this:
I vaguely remember that the issue with Orange users being locked out of their own network when using the debranded froyo ROm's was due to changing the Radio (as we needed a 5.x.x.x radio when moving from ecalir to froyo). Since my current Radio is 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30, if I get a custom ROM without Radio and carry on using the one I have (already Froyo compatible) will I be ok or will I get simlocked again?
Many thanks in advance
David
Strange, I always thought ROM had nothing to do with your SIM lock... Maybe it depends on what phone you have because I have SIM unlocked my HTC magic after owning it a year long and then after that installed many different ROMs without being SIM locked again.
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You don't need to unlock anymore. Newer radios don't lock orange desires anymore.
I did the exact same thing as you, when I got my second orange desire I didn't need to unlock it.
mercianary said:
You don't need to unlock anymore. Newer radios don't lock orange desires anymore.
I did the exact same thing as you, when I got my second orange desire I didn't need to unlock it.
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Thanks mercinary, does this mean I can choose the radio update with the relevant custom ROM or should I keep the Radio on the device that is there currently?
David
shoemeistah said:
Strange, I always thought ROM had nothing to do with your SIM lock... Maybe it depends on what phone you have because I have SIM unlocked my HTC magic after owning it a year long and then after that installed many different ROMs without being SIM locked again.
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That's generally the case, but in the past flashing a non orange froyo radio on a locked orange desire would lock you out of all networks...including orange. It has not been an issue afaik since orange released froyo, all radios after this point did not lock orange phones.
I wish we knew more about this bug because if the radio can manipulate the phones lock state maybe a custom radio can be made to unlock your phone...that's a big maybe though, and I don't know what I'm talking about
beartiger said:
Thanks mercinary, does this mean I can choose the radio update with the relevant custom ROM or should I keep the Radio on the device that is there currently?
David
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Its up to you. If you've got froyo now the radio will work fine with any rom. I've never had any trouble with my new orange desire, flashed loads of radios.
I think i would have a word with HTC, your phone was unlocked when you sent it to HTC for repair, so it should be unlocked on return to you, even if they have changed the mainboard.
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Hi all,
Just flashed my phone from standard Orange ROM to a generic version as per this guide:
forum . xda-developers . com / showthread.php?t=688404
However, once the phone reboots, I am presented with a screen asking for the "SIM network unlock PIN" as my SIM card is refused.
Any ideas what to do??
http://www.androidfiledepot.com/Sto...io_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_release_122704.exe
Just run this one, It's not the latest, but it's got the right radio update for Orange supplied devices. Alternativly, you could have you desire unlcoked, then you could update the radio too.
Hi
You either need to flash back to your previous radio or get a sim unlock code - however these cost between £15-20.
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RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.15.405.4_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_release_122704.exe
Just run this one, It's not the latest, but it's got the right radio update for Orange supplied devices. Alternativly, you could have you desire unlcoked, then you could update the radio too.
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Tried this method but unfortunately it returned "Error [140]: Bootloader Version Error"
How have other people managed to remove Orange branding with the updated radio version and not faced the same problem?
I don't really want to pay to unlock it as that would be of no use to me and I don't know of a site that's guaranteed to work with my Orange UK contract phone.
Hi guys,
I've just rooted the AMOLED HTC Desire (Branded, Simlocked, Orange FR) with the following version:
- HBOOT: 0.75
- Radio : 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
- Firmware version : 1.15
So i have few questions:
- Do i need to update radio to use with froyo ?
- Which radio should i use to remove simlock ?
- Is there any combination of radio + hboot would brick my Desire ?
- Any suggestion on cooked froyo i should use ?
Thank you very much
- no you dont need to upgrade your radio to use froyo, just to use the hd video recording
- you cant remove a simlock with a radio lol
- radio and hboot dont interact with eachother so i doubt it
- everyone seems to use leedroid these days, i like nextsence tho both roms are pretty awsome tho
@AndroHero: Thank you for you quick reply. But i seached forum, and found that each version of firmware does required a specific radio version. And my radio is quite obsolete. I doubt that froyo requires a higher radio version.
They also mentioned that if radio and hboot is not compatible with each other, my phone will be bricked.
And i'm afraid of upgrading to froyo will also upgrade radio and hboot which leads to loosing rooting capability.
lhoang8500 said:
@AndroHero: Thank you for you quick reply. But i seached forum, and found that each version of firmware does required a specific radio version. And my radio is quite obsolete. I doubt that froyo requires a higher radio version.
They also mentioned that if radio and hboot is not compatible with each other, my phone will be bricked.
And i'm afraid of upgrading to froyo will also upgrade radio and hboot which leads to loosing rooting capability.
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i have used froyo with the stock radio i got with my desire, only problem was camcorder crashed, i have the same hboot version as you and used every radio under the sun with no problems, if you flash a custom rom, they will not come with a radio or hboot upgrade so dont worri about that
@AndroHero: I do see the newest version of LeeDroid do require new radio and they said i need a unlock code("Orange users may need an unlock code.")
I don't have a unlock code, but i still use an orange simcard. Is it ok ?
lhoang8500 said:
@AndroHero: I do see the newest version of LeeDroid do require new radio and they said i need a unlock code("Orange users may need an unlock code.")
I don't have a unlock code, but i still use an orange simcard. Is it ok ?
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no orange users need to buy a sim unlock code to sim unlock your desire before you can flash a new radio, otherwise you will get network locked ( meaning you cant use the network, phone, internet ect ), after you have sim unlocked your desire you can continue to use your orange sim as usuall but you need to sim unlock your phone
@AndroHero: So said . Is there anyway so that i can update to froyo without upgrade radio ? I see most cooked roms need updated radio to work.
Anyway, if i want update radio, is there anyway to backup current radio and restore later ? Nandroid seems not to be eable to do that
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@AndroHero: So said . Is there anyway so that i can update to froyo without upgrade radio ? I see most cooked roms need updated radio to work.
Anyway, if i want update radio, is there anyway to backup current radio and restore later ? Nandroid seems not to be eable to do that
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there is a thread the top of the development section with all the radio's, just take a note of your radio and then download it again if nessessary like i said before as far as i know (and have tried) froyo will work with the old radio's just some of the functions will crash like camcorder, when the first htc froyo rom was leaked we had no new radio so everyone used it with the ones they had
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@AndroHero: I do see the newest version of LeeDroid do require new radio and they said i need a unlock code("Orange users may need an unlock code.")
I don't have a unlock code, but i still use an orange simcard. Is it ok ?
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The latest 2 radio's can be used on Orange without an unlock code.
Thank you guys, i will cross my fingers and do a radio update tonight
Old (4.x) radios are not supported with froyo. It may seem to work, but you will end up with problems, and devs will usually refuse to offer any support if you have an old radio.
Some custom roms will flash the radio as well.
I answered all this on MoDaCo this morning...
I've just updated radio to the newest, but the download speed seems never reach 0.5mbps, uplad is 1.6 mbps.I tried with iphone 4 (with the same sim card),it can reach 4mbps for download and 2mbps upload easily. Any idea ?
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I answered all this on MoDaCo this morning...
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lol unlucky..
also i've herd people get past the radio problem by doing the update without the sim card in the phone. and then inserting it in.
they might be talking BS, but it might be fact. best thing to do is unlock the handset anyways
lhoang8500 said:
I've just updated radio to the newest, but the download speed seems never reach 0.5mbps, uplad is 1.6 mbps.I tried with iphone 4 (with the same sim card),it can reach 4mbps for download and 2mbps upload easily. Any idea ?
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Have you checked your APN settings?
hi,i realized the problem is from the operator. There are 3 access point, and only one of them allows me connecting at max speed. "Orange Internet" is suck. Use "Orange World" instead.
Hi! I am in your same situation. I have a Orange branded Desire. Finally, did you update the radio without need SIM unlock?
Thanks
Yes, I CONFIRM that you can update it without simlock.
Hi,
I bought a HTC desire locked to orange. I rooted it and upgraded the radio to the latest one and then flashed OpenDesire 2.6.0 only to find that I get a message asking me to enter the simlock pin.
So I bought the simlock pin. This works fine, however after a messages stating that I was succesfull nothing happens. there's a warning sim notification on the top corner of my screen but when I expand the notification bar there is no message. The phone still hasn't registered/acknowledged my sim card though (I cannot make calls etc).
Am I doing things in the wrong order?
Please help.
Thanks,
Craig
Which radio version are you using? The latest ones do not seem to have any problem with Orange phones.
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Which radio version are you using? The latest ones do not seem to have any problem with Orange phones.
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I tried 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 first
and then 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20
You're the first to report SIM lock issues with the latest radios, you on Orange UK?
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You're the first to report SIM lock issues with the latest radios, you on Orange UK?
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Yes, orange UK. I'm just trying a different ROM as we speak (DeFroST_3.1)
Those radios have been ok with Orange branded phones so far. Did you let the phone boot after you flashed your radio before you installed the custom ROM?
I would try flashing the latest 2.1 generic RUU (goldcard required). Apparently there are problems trying to sim unlock a phone on some non-stock ROMs.
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Those radios have been ok with Orange branded phones so far. Did you let the phone boot after you flashed your radio before you installed the custom ROM?
I would try flashing the latest 2.1 generic RUU (goldcard required). Apparently there are problems trying to sim unlock a phone on some non-stock ROMs.
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I understand what a gold card is etc....but why is it needed again here?
I thought the gold card pretty much allowed you to boot into recovery and then flash a rom?
I will try the following first:
1)wipe / clear cache's
2) flash radio and reboot
3)flash rom
This is what I SHOULD be doing right?
When you first updated the radio did you boot into your Orange software? If so, I take it there was no request for a sim unlock code then?
Without a goldcard you can't flash using an RUU (there are no branded Orange ones).
You could also try installing a custom pre-rooted froyo ROM.
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When you first updated the radio did you boot into your Orange software? If so, I take it there was no request for a sim unlock code then?
Without a goldcard you can't flash using an RUU (there are no branded Orange ones).
You could also try installing a custom pre-rooted froyo ROM.
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I don't think there was a request for simlock. Instead it just rejected the sim.
Oh right....why do I want an RUU? I'm sure I'm missing something here.....My phone's already rooted....I just want a custom rom on here eg. open desire...
People have had problems unlocking their phones on non-stock roms.
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People have had problems unlocking their phones on non-stock roms.
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Ahh ok. So I apply the RUU rom and unlock....then re-root etc and I won't need to unlock again?
That's what I'd try.
OK, thanks alot mate
Just a quick update. I've flashed RUU and then sim unlock has worked perfectly. I'm now going to root and try a custom rom again. If this fails I guess I'm stuck with RUU = stuck with sense = no wii remote
You will need to update the radio again for the latest roms.
Hey guys,
I've just got a new desire so I'm a newbie at this
was thinking of changing the ROM on it, but most of the roms require an upgraded radio. I've rooted my desire simply enough, but can I upgrade the radio fine or would I need an 'unlock code' that some people talk about? I don't want to get locked out of my desire accidentally!
thanks
Wrong forum section, but to answer your question you will be fine with latest radio
Unlock code needed
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Unlock code needed
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Dont tell him that, the latest 2 radios are fine even when you're locked
Are you sure ? I'm sure that's when I unlocked mine because I kept getting SIM Locks
Hes right I got the latest one on a locked orange phone and no code needed
You don't need unlock code with the latest X.30 radio
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I didn't need unlock code either. The lastest radio work fine on Orange FR
I've flashed the last 3 Radios to be released/leaked with 0 lock related issues. Go for it. Worst case scenario you need to spend a few quid...
OK, thanks, I guess I'll read up on upgrading the radio then
The reason I was asking was since the LeeDroid post states that 'Orange users may need an unlock code.' for the radio upgrade
PS sorry about posting in the wrong forum
Will an unlocked orange Desire be no different from an ordinary?
So if i get a locked orange Desire and unlock it, will it be the same as a ordinary unlocked Desire?
So, no special radios or anything?
Josasp said:
Will an unlocked orange Desire be no different from an ordinary?
So if i get a locked orange Desire and unlock it, will it be the same as a ordinary unlocked Desire?
So, no special radios or anything?
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unless you flash a generic rom it will still have all the orange branding, apps and everything. unlocking it only makes it sim free
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unless you flash a generic rom it will still have all the orange branding, apps and everything. unlocking it only makes it sim free
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That i understand.
What i mean is if i can treat it (root+rom+radio) as any other Desire without accidentally "relocking" it or something?
From what i gather you only need to use specific orange radios if you are still running simlock, right?
Josasp said:
That i understand.
What i mean is if i can treat it (root+rom+radio) as any other Desire without accidentally "relocking" it or something?
From what i gather you only need to use specific orange radios if you are still running simlock, right?
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i think some of the early froyo radios network locked phones locked to orange but the 2 newer ones are ok even if you are simlocked