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My Evo Speaker Back-lit mods and More!

Hey guys,
Thought I might post about my HTC EVO Back-lit speaker mod and other things done to my phone physically.
My Blog does show it best:
http://doesitpew.blogspot.com/2011/03/htc-evo-4g-mods-beyond-stock-and-one-of.html
However, here are the Pics of the Speaker Mod!
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You can see that now my phone has a Back-lit Speaker port! This is made using a PCB using a simple Resistor/LED serial connection. For those without aa thicker cover, this is still possible because the LED circuit is the same size as the speaker port (though it will muffle with a normal back) or you can put it in the back area of the headphone port.
My reason for this is I am a girl, so I put my phone in my purse when moving about. DO YOU KNOW HOW IMPOSSIBLE IT IS TO FIND YOUR PHONE IN A DARK PURSE? This solves that without being too bright. Also, do not worry as it uses almost no battery and will continue to shine, even if the phone does not have enough voltage to run as this needs only 2.0v to have full illumination! Also, doe not violate the warranty as you do not have to crack open the phone to install, just wrap the wire around the spring loaded battery connections! To connect, just use the FAR RIGHT AND FAR LEFT of the 4 pins, otherwise your phone will get very angry with you and will not charge. Tape is used to diffuse the light.
The red is the base plastic of the phone (used to be covered with black rubberized paint). This has been initially removed by using the back of a razor blade and then finished with plastic polish using a dremel.
Finally finished off with a $7 shipped eBay extended battery with cover.

Nice work!
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ok, but why in the hell would you need a backlit speaker? edit: i see now that i read your whole post.
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Its cosmetic and slightly functional. great for those of us with shallow pockets and dark couches!

Kinda cool. Checked out your blog. Some nice engineering and creativity on there. Love the Link and Kirby post-it art.

Niiiiiiiiice !!!!!
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Childofthehorn said:
Hey guys,
Thought I might post about my HTC EVO Back-lit speaker mod and other things done to my phone physically.
My Blog does show it best:
http://doesitpew.blogspot.com/2011/03/htc-evo-4g-mods-beyond-stock-and-one-of.html
However, here are the Pics of the Speaker Mod!
You can see that now my phone has a Back-lit Speaker port! This is made using a PCB using a simple Resistor/LED serial connection. For those without aa thicker cover, this is still possible because the LED circuit is the same size as the speaker port (though it will muffle with a normal back) or you can put it in the back area of the headphone port.
My reason for this is I am a girl, so I put my phone in my purse when moving about. DO YOU KNOW HOW IMPOSSIBLE IT IS TO FIND YOUR PHONE IN A DARK PURSE? This solves that without being too bright. Also, do not worry as it uses almost no battery and will continue to shine, even if the phone does not have enough voltage to run as this needs only 2.0v to have full illumination! Also, doe not violate the warranty as you do not have to crack open the phone to install, just wrap the wire around the spring loaded battery connections! To connect, just use the FAR RIGHT AND FAR LEFT of the 4 pins, otherwise your phone will get very angry with you and will not charge. Tape is used to diffuse the light.
The red is the base plastic of the phone (used to be covered with black rubberized paint). This has been initially removed by using the back of a razor blade and then finished with plastic polish using a dremel.
Finally finished off with a $7 shipped eBay extended battery with cover.
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i notice u have one of those ebay batteries. how is it working for u?

Cheap Battery that does a good extra two and a half above stock out of the box. great deal

you're my kinda girl ;]

Cool mod.
Use your handy dandy DMM to check polarity & voltages?

On the battery or the LED?
Basically, the battery will keep the phone on from a peak of 4.2V and low of about 3.3-3.4 depending on what your setup is. Now, where the led is hooked up is after the battery charging circuit that brings down the voltage to 4.0-4.2V from 5V (again depending on if you have 002 hardware or later versions). That means that this battery will essentially show the same brightness from 3-4Volts and my choice of resistor for this was 103ohm as it was not too bright, but bright enough. The light will show down to 2V with decent brightness, at the limits of the discharge circuitry in your battery (stock cuts itself, the chinese ones do not and do allow overcharging).
You do not need a DMM or Scope for this (even though I love my DSO Nano V2, always in my purse for when I need it!)

BTW: Here is the cheapest on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...921654&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2524wt_998
Shipping was MUCH faster than listed, arrived in less than a week!

Childofthehorn said:
BTW: Here is the cheapest on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...921654&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2524wt_998
Shipping was MUCH faster than listed, arrived in less than a week!
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You said you are getting 2 hours above stock... how many hours are we talking because usage varies from user to user. Just curious.

Mostly data usage. I am a data user more than talk. This means web-surfing and internet connected games/apps.

Childofthehorn said:
Mostly data usage. I am a data user more than talk. This means web-surfing and internet connected games/apps.
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right, but what i mean is what did you get stock (now is stock +2hrs). So, I understand you are getting increased battery life but I am still wondering what you are getting, on avg.
Thnx!

Nicely done.

I likey! I have some extra SMD's laying around from when I changed the lights on the dash of my car to all be one color. I have to take my phone apart anyway to change my cracked digitizer and replace the exterior housing, so I may just do this in the process.
Thanks for the info!

Childofthehorn said:
You do not need a DMM or Scope for this (even though I love my DSO Nano V2, always in my purse for when I need it!)
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The Nanos are very cool

Ordered my e bay battery a few days ago. Once it arrives I will be doing this.
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Do you notice a difference in battery life?

Building my own clock dock with battery charger

I managed to put together a google sketchup model of a galaxy nexus horizontal dock with extra battery charger. It has quite a ways to go but it is a nice start. I am going to get my buddy to print these out with his reprap printer this weekend and we will see what needs to be done.
Goals:
Use pogo pins to charge nexus
auto charge extra battery
have the dock hold the phone sturdy enough
*Update 2/16
I went to my friends house to get the parts printed out and lets just say it wasn't pretty. I haven't done any 3D printing before and it showed. I got some tips on what to change to get the part to work better in the printer and I will be spending some time this weekend fixing the model. The good news with this is that the new design should be extremely easy to change for different phones and phone shapes as all I will need to do is change the part that holds the phone, the rest of the dock can be reused.
Also I finished the schematic for the battery charging circuit. I will post a full schematic as well as a board layout when i actually put it up on a computer, right now its just a sketch in my notebook. The basics of the charging circuit is a National Instruments LP3947. This chip provides battery level monitoring which will allow the battery to charge to 100% and not overcharge or overheat. As for the power supply, I haven't decided yet. It is ether going to be a 2 amp plug or a 1 amp micro USB plug. The pogo pins are only rated for around 600mah and it is recommended to charge a battery at 500mah or less so I might just stick with using a micro USB plug to keep things easy.
* Update 2/18
I had to redesign the dock from scratch because as I stated before google sketchup isn't great for 3D printing and the model I tried to print failed pretty bad. I took my friend's advice and tried to chop it up into smaller pieces. I am going to print these out in a few hours and will post results this time. As for the schematic, I will get to that when I can. Getting a new model done was more important.
As you can see in the picture the dock is in a lot more pieces. Hopefully this means I can quickly redesign each part that is needed if something doesn't come out right in the print without having to print a whole new model. Also with more pieces anyone should be able to adjust this for any phone or case. The tray that holds the phone has room for another 3-5mm of thickness. I am not sure how much room there is width wise though.
* Update 2/19
Printed out a few parts, only two came out so I will give that another go when I have time.
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Planning on mass production? Count me in for 1

Whenever I get it.working I will post instructions

If this had solid build quality I would definitely be interested. Especially in pogo pin charging capabilities.

If you decided to make one that fits with the cruzer a2 cases, Id def be in for this. Id even throw 1 in for ya if you dont already have one so you can get the stats right.

solid idea! hope you make it happen with all these delays on the official dock.

I'm very interested. Especially if it can incorporate pogo pins.

Disregard this post

jonnyg1097 said:
Disregard this post
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Why should you disregard this? I am trying to design something that people have been waiting samsung to do.

iankellogg said:
Why should you disregard this? I am trying to design something that people have been waiting samsung to do.
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They ment their post, instead of deleting their post, they edited it
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neederishelp said:
They ment their post, instead of deleting their post, they edited it
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Oh okay. I have never posted any of my projects before so I am hoping people's interest in this gets me to finish this faster than I normally do.

meental said:
Planning on mass production? Count me in for 1
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I have been thinking about this for a few days and I am a bit worried that people won't like the printed plastic finish. Since I am basically only making this for myself I am going for function over form. I only have access to a RepRap 3D printer and my own PCB etching stuff, so no nice injected plastic. If people are still interested in buying one instead of just building one from my instructions that I post when I'm done we can talk then.

Very much looking forward to this! It's similar to something I'd love to do myself but I graduated in December so I no longer have access to my school's rapid prototyping lab.
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wish i had access to a 3D printer!
I'm sure there will be a lot of interest for this, since Samsung bailed, regardless of form.

If your printed version works well, and there is a lot of interest, you could try this place:
http://www.protomold.com/

iankellogg said:
Oh okay. I have never posted any of my projects before so I am hoping people's interest in this gets me to finish this faster than I normally do.
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Yea sorry about that, I ment my post that I made since it isnt possible to delete my post entirely I edited it to just ignore the one i made.
I love the concept and the thin profile of it. Good luck

Does anyone know where I can find the battery connector prebuilt? If I don't have to bend metal to make those tiny little clips that would make my life a ton easier.

iankellogg said:
Does anyone know where I can find the battery connector prebuilt? If I don't have to bend metal to make those tiny little clips that would make my life a ton easier.
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http://search.digikey.com/us/en/cat...ular-spring-loaded/1442900?k=battery contacts
Start there. From the best measurements I can take with my handy dandy metric ruler, looks like a 2.5mm spacing (pitch) between contacts and 4 contacts. Something like this, or exactly this, would work:
http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/009155004541006/478-5452-1-ND/2001013

msugeek said:
Start there. From the best measurements I can take with my handy dandy metric ruler, looks like a 2.5mm spacing (pitch) between contacts and 4 contacts. Something like this, or exactly this, would work:
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Spacing is 3.0mm.

msugeek said:
http://search.digikey.com/us/en/cat...ular-spring-loaded/1442900?k=battery contacts
Start there. From the best measurements I can take with my handy dandy metric ruler, looks like a 2.5mm spacing (pitch) between contacts and 4 contacts. Something like this, or exactly this, would work:
http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/009155004541006/478-5452-1-ND/2001013
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Hey thanks a bunch! I will give these a shot (I checked the spacing on the battery and it seems to be 3mm like the other posted stated)

CNC machined Touchstone based car dock [Prototype]

been working on this for awhile. this is my render of the part.
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and this is a simplified prototype to test fitment and other things.
it fits the GSM and LTE Nexus with a case on it. the touchstone goodies are inbetween the case and the phone itself. opening the phone was unnecessary.
right now the phone is a bit of a tight fit. need to get that sorted out and try again in a few days. also need to verify the touchstone will work with the gap i gave it. (.050ish)
look forward to hearing any comments you guys have.

looks awesome!

2 words:
bad.ass
I'd love to see a dock/stand made with that.

jonnyg1097 said:
2 words:
bad.ass
I'd love to see a dock/stand made with that.
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agreed really WOW shame i can't do such thing because don't have such machinery
are u charging via pogo pins or micro usb?

Only issue I see with this is that the placement off the touchstone would have to line up exactly with where you place the coil.
From what I see it wouldn't work on mine since my coil is much higher to avoid interference with NFC...looks very promising though!
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smartadmin said:
Only issue I see with this is that the placement off the touchstone would have to line up exactly with where you place the coil.
From what I see it wouldn't work on mine since my coil is much higher to avoid interference with NFC...looks very promising though!
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i tried it and there weren't problems with nfc and the coil using beam and an id
and also IF there were problems it wouldn't matter because it's a car dock pretty much sure he's not using nfc in that case

Pretty limiting in that you've blocked off the phone's speaker and the headphone jack. Sure, some people use bluetooth for everything - but some don't. Just some food for thought.

Looks cool. Any way you can share a cad file of this. I drew a few up myself and I'd like to compare dimensions.
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Impressive.
Does the thickness of the material interfere with the cam at all? IIRC it has a pretty wide view. That said, dude, it has a hole for the camera, good stuff

Let's start from the top
Charging through the pogo pins. charging rate appears to be around 750Ma, or around 40% an hour. It was good enough to keep my phone charged while tethered streaming a movie. So its good enough for me.
I realize I didn't leave any provisions for the internal mics or speakers to do their thing. Much less room for the headphone and USB port. I'm only making a few of these for me and some friends willing to conform to my apple-esque control over how their phone is setup.
The NFC works fine, planning on using an NFC tag to launch the car dock.
Not sure about the camera, I should check that...
T-Keith, PM me your email and I'll try and send you some files when I get it to a point where I'm happy (it fits kinda tight right now)
Thanks for all the kind words, I'll get some nicer photos up soon.

Thats just good stuff - would love to see this extended to a home landscape dock.

I'm confused about how/what is holding the phone in the dock.

looks awesome. You could start a Kickstarter to get funding. I want one!

Definitely looks promising. Great inspiration, I might see what I can come up with if I have some free time. This is just begging for some rapid prototyping fun.
I'd also love to take a look at your files. Great work.

AdamHart612 said:
Definitely looks promising. Great inspiration, I might see what I can come up with if I have some free time. This is just begging for some rapid prototyping fun.
I'd also love to take a look at your files. Great work.
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Agreed! If you post up the cad files when you're done I can probably whip one up in my company's makerbot. I can try and figure out the cost and go from there. This is an AWESOME project!

Question.
If you've modded your case so you can charge using a Touchstone, haven't you already got magnets in there to hold the handset in place when using the Touchstone?
If so, then what does the plastic bit achieve?
I'm not trying to criticise, I'm just confused is all.

Did you ever make more progress on this? I use a touchstone in my car now but something to keep the phone a bit more secure would be awesome!

If you've modded your case so you can charge using a Touchstone, haven't you already got magnets in there to hold the handset in place when using the Touchstone?
If so, then what does the plastic bit achieve?
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Most people are afraid to use JUST a touchstone in their car because if you hit a big bump then your phone could go flying. This is EXACTLY what I was looking to do, integrate a touchstone into a regular car dock so that you can just drop it in for wireless charge and not worry about your phone launching across the car when you make a quick turn. I think I'm going to try to modify an already made dock to fit the touchstone as the back plate, as I don't have access to a CNC machine or a 3D printer =(
EDIT: Sorry if it's a bit off topic, but I found a dock that looks like it'd be perfect to cut out the back and integrate a touchstone. What do you guys think?

Review - Dock and Power Battery

So i bought these 2 bad boys during the discount Motorola had on their store and thought it would be nice to share with you guys my thought of them.
Have used them for almost 4 days now and here are my comments:
The Dock
It's the first dock i ever get for a device so it's been a nice experience overall and i do enjoy having my phone there standing up waiting for me to ask something away. The design is pretty cool and to be honest the color set on my Moto X Dev Edition rides just nicely with the color scheme of it so no complains there.
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It is a bit pricey for what you get, which basically is the dock, a wall plug and an usb cable (usb to microusb), have to add that the cable and wall plug was kinda crappy, it made this little noise which for what i know of electronics is a capacitor not working properly so i just replaced that with the OEM cable and plug.
The usb mount part gives you movemente freedom up untill 75 degrees aprox, so that's nice.
Now as for the features or the use of it, i move it from my PC to my night stand table and finally i see a use for the daydream function which kinda sucked for me since they released it. Of course i am pretty much lost on which application can benefit of this feature but as for now having the clock itself helps me out alot when i wake up at night to take a piss - you know.
To wrap it up, i like the dock but i still consider it pricey for a regular user so unless you have the money for it - find an alternate solution.
The Battery
You guys know how the Moto X gets a kick ass battery life, well i use my phone like alot, seriously i kill the battery in 6 hours cause i steam music on LTE, keep FB nonstop plus i have my wireless headset running 24/7. With Kit Kat i do have a bigger drain but meh i really don't care much about it since i can always charge it or use the battery.
It takes around 4 hours to charge completely and it has the ability to charge 2 devices at the same time or at least i believe it does since it has 2 output connections.
It also has an additional Micro USB port which is attached to the powerpack itself so if you don't carry cables with you, it is just the perfect companion. And for the 3000 mah capacity i seriously think this one is a no brainer. Again it is an expensive tool but i honestly believe it could save you when you are out of the city, on a trip or simply out of juice.
So far i have charged it twice and used it to charge my phone once, it still had around 50% capacity which is indicated with little LED dots in the front of it, just above the Motorola Logo. One minor detail, the plastic does tend to catch a lot of scratches, you can see them on the final pic.
In conclusion i would suggest you to grab the powerpack if you travel alot or if you just simply use the phone as much as i do.
Again, there are much more cheaper solutions but to be honest i don't trust chinese batteries, had a bad experience with one of them. Kinda blowed up on me so, noty.
Please feel free to ask anything about the dock or battery i will try to answer and provide feedback as needed.
sorry for the language, english ain't my first.
thanks

Ive been trying to pick up a dock, they have been out of stock all week. Sucks
Nice review

Envy. In my country Motorola doesn't sell accessories and it's impossible to find them.
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I'm liking the dock, but i don't find a need for a power battery
Off-Topic: Hey what case is that?

It's a cheap bumper case I got off Amazon, let me know if you want the link.
Agree with you on the battery but i had a $50 coupon i had to use on their store so that plus the discount made me buy those.
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RorixRebel said:
It's a cheap bumper case I got off Amazon, let me know if you want the link.
Agree with you on the battery but i had a $50 coupon i had to use on their store so that plus the discount made me buy those.
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Yeah if you don't mind that'd be awesome
And I gotcha. I probably would've done the same
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I have a Pebble watch added as a trusted device. Unfortunately, the phone relocks when docked. Major buzzkill of an amazing feature.
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jmill75 said:
Ive been trying to pick up a dock, they have been out of stock all week. Sucks
Nice review
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I'm looking to sell my dock.
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I'm looking to sell my dock.
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The Moto X one? Why/How much?

Are you saying the only reason you got the battery pack was because of the coupon you had? Just curious because I was thinking about getting one of those Anker ones. They seem to do more for the price.
But don't blame you if you basically got that battery pack for free.

On the dock, how much friction is required for insertion / removal of the phone on the USB connector?

Micro USB Qi wireless receivers?

Has anyone tried one of these qi receiver tags that plugs into your Micro USB port?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Q...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item27e5adb896
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Q...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item2c83141608
I know they aren't optimal, but I figured if it works it would be a good hold over until good ones come out for the G3 specific.

I will let you know when my phone gets in, I have one left over from my LG G2. I don't see why it shouldn't work though.

Charsher47 said:
I will let you know when my phone gets in, I have one left over from my LG G2. I don't see why it shouldn't work though.
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Thanks. Any idea which one I should look at getting? Haven't seen a good enough shot of the micro USB port to make sure I get one facing the right direction. I've got Amazon Prime so I'll probably get one from there to test.

http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Wireless-Charging-Receiver-micro-USB/dp/B00H7FJX7M/
That one is on Amazon, Prime, and has 2 different models. Anyone seen a close enough photo to know which one we'd need? Port A or Port B?
I'm going to try to find one with a metal plug instead of this plastic one.

This one has tons of different options. Less than $11 on prime.
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Wireless-Charging-micro-USB-narrow-interface/dp/B00I1D4DWO/
Sorry for the multiple posts, I thought it would collapse them.
From what I saw in pictures, it should be this one correct?
Universal QI Wireless Charging Receiver film for micro-USB of All Android Mobile (middle/narrow-interface Up)
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If so I'll pick one up today so its here for testing when my phone arrives.

Yes I got one and didn't work.

Didn't charge at all? Can you give us some specifics?

No didn't even register on the phone. It was only $7. I ended up ripping out the Quick Circle charging coil and putting it in my phone. Works a treat!

Thanks. Do you know exactly which one you used (perhaps a link to where you purchased) so those of us that want to test other ones skip it?

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Thanks. Do you know exactly which one you used (perhaps a link to where you purchased) so those of us that want to test other ones skip it?
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Yes sorry can't remember where I bought it from. I think eBay? This is it...
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Im using this one; http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
No problems after all. Working OK with my F400K

So now its working? Awesome! Buying 2 right now.

Mine works as well, I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IQ2GUFI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
BUT it only works if i have the receiver stuck on the back of the phone in between it and the phone case. If I have it on top of the battery the signal doesn't make it through.. perhaps because of the curved nature of the phone and the NFC receiver on the inside of the back cover.

I was always under the impression that NFC and wireless charging interfered with each other unless it was one integrated unit. That's probably why yours only works that way.

Well I got mine and tried it out, and while it does work, kind of, I'm sending them back. The cable ribbon is so thin it feels like it is going to rip, it would also need you to bend it at a bad angle to get it inside a case or inside the back. I can't get a GOOD charging connection with my TYLT VU chargers, so it is going back.

RED ZMAN said:
Well I got mine and tried it out, and while it does work, kind of, I'm sending them back. The cable ribbon is so thin it feels like it is going to rip, it would also need you to bend it at a bad angle to get it inside a case or inside the back. I can't get a GOOD charging connection with my TYLT VU chargers, so it is going back.
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The cable ribbon is probably thin because you need to bend it at weird/sharp angles and it has to fit in the cracks of the back or case. As long as you're not constantly pulling on it, there's really no risk of tearing. Connections are fine with my $20 chargers, I can drop it on pretty much anywhere in the vicinity of the receiver and it'll charge.
Charge rate depends on which receiver you go with. Most, including the ones posted here, are 500mA which is kind of slow. I should be getting an 800mA one soon so hopefully that'll pick up the pace. IMO, these are still better than switching to PMA.

Its not so much the thin that bothers me, it is how flimsy it is. I mean it could have some reinforcement of some kind you'd think. And it leaves the pad really low on the phone, probably part of the reason it doesn't connect well even with a QI pad a good as the TYLT VU. Just removing the thing to root my device was scary, I thought the USB plug was going to tear off and stay in.
I just bought 2 battery covers with integrated Qi/NFC for $23 each on ebay (my wife got a G3 also) so that should fix the issues for me. Not sure what the VU charges at, but with my Nexus 5 it was always great, for a heavy user like me, I was satisfied (Qi dock in my car too).

What kind of qi car dock do you have? I love the wireless charging and have seen a few posts you put on XDA. I ordered that back plate from eBay, hopefully it works OK and I had ordered the sticker from China but it seems like a pain in the ass ripping off the old one.
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Let me find a link for you. Been really happy with it. Glad my posts are helping folks!

RED ZMAN said:
Its not so much the thin that bothers me, it is how flimsy it is. I mean it could have some reinforcement of some kind you'd think. And it leaves the pad really low on the phone, probably part of the reason it doesn't connect well even with a QI pad a good as the TYLT VU. Just removing the thing to root my device was scary, I thought the USB plug was going to tear off and stay in.
I just bought 2 battery covers with integrated Qi/NFC for $23 each on ebay (my wife got a G3 also) so that should fix the issues for me. Not sure what the VU charges at, but with my Nexus 5 it was always great, for a heavy user like me, I was satisfied (Qi dock in my car too).
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Do you have a link to the ones you bought? Also could you post some pictures when you receive and install them?