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I'm exchanging the xv6900 for a xv6800, for the keyboard.
What's the latest info on what rom I should return it with?
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I'm exchanging the xv6900 for a xv6800, for the keyboard.
What's the latest info on what rom I should return it with?
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You can't go back! Not exactly sure how your gonna pull it off. Someone else said they changed the startup images to look like the stock, but it's pretty risky. If you return it with any ROM, I would suggest cooking a new ROM to match as closely as possible. The only problem is, the Radio is changed, and the info will be displayed on boot up. I imagine at some point, someone would notice it.
Bottom line is, you've completely altered the device, which voided your warranty.
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Yeh, I knew the risks, maybe stuck with the Vogue.
I'm within the 30 days return for exchange time.
So what happens if they don't like my radio version?
They simply wont exchange it? Or do they close the account? Or do they escort me out back and shoot me?
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TheChampJT
I've read many of your posts here, you're very helpful and I wanna say thanks
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TheChampJT
I've read many of your posts here, you're very helpful and I wanna say thanks
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No prob! But, if they do see you've altered it, depending on when they notice, will probably depend on their action. Who knows, maybe if you can make it look official, and they accept, then it's their fault for accepting and can't refuse down the road.
Personally, I traded in my 6800 for the device, because of the extra amount of memory. The only differences I see that really stick out is the keyboard and WiFi, both I could live without. But, I couldn't stand the small amount of memory. I would imagine the worst they would do is refuse the trade, I highly doubt they would terminate the contract.
Found the Geeks thread
This looks like a good link for 'fixing' your Verizon to close to original.
I finally found this after many searches and after posting here
Anyone following this link, be sure to read everything here, there's considerations about the radio version and brinking the phone, so be careful.
Acutally this link is for the 6800 Titan, I'm looking for the Vogue one if there is one....
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21161
Clues said:
This looks like a good link for 'fixing' your Verizon to close to original.
I finally found this after many searches and after posting here
Anyone following this link, be sure to read everything here, there's considerations about the radio version and brinking the phone, so be careful.
Acutally this link is for the 6800 Titan, I'm looking for the Vogue one if there is one....
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21161
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Problem is, there is official stock ROM available to flash, which you've probably seen by now. At least there wasn't a couple of weeks ago. That's why the xv6900 ROM threads have warnings everywhere.
i am working on a way to get the xv6900 almost all the way back to stock. it is a multistep process but i have done it once. if you want more info let me know...
Sure
I'm keeping the 6900, thanks to some tips about the lower memory size of the 6800. It is kinda frustrating to have to decide between a keyboard or more ram. But also the size of the 6800 would make it less pocketable, I want the keyboard, but the same size as the vogue....
Anyway if I do need to return this for some reason it would be great to have a thread on converting it so yes pls thanks.
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I'm keeping the 6900, thanks to some tips about the lower memory size of the 6800. It is kinda frustrating to have to decide between a keyboard or more ram. But also the size of the 6800 would make it less pocketable, I want the keyboard, but the same size as the vogue....
Anyway if I do need to return this for some reason it would be great to have a thread on converting it so yes pls thanks.
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If you haven't yet, get Resco Keyboard. About $20, it's one of those things you must have.
touchpal
i personally think touchpal is the best if you use 6.1 you need to use the 6.1 version or your phone will reset while texting i send around two thousand a month and traded my mogul for the touch for the more memory and believe me the touch is the one to have especially if you put alot of stuff on your device
I know it was only released yesterday, but I know nothing about the current Desire models. I come from the realm of CDMA Hero's and am moving to the Samsung Epic. My brother just picked up a desire and wants to root it.
Is the current Desire a GSM or CDMA phone?
And has anyone who has gotten the new USC Desire, have you tried the current root method to see if it works. I have doubts that it will.
I am going to assume after looking through this forum a little bit that the current model being developed for here is GSM.
The US Cellular Desire is the first CDMA phone to be called "HTC Desire". Tread carefully. But please also report any positive/negative results so that others can learn from your win/fail.
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The US Cellular Desire is the first CDMA phone to be called "HTC Desire". Tread carefully. But please also report any positive/negative results so that others can learn from your win/fail.
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Thankfully I am pretty Android savvy. I just wasn't sure if it was CDMA or GSM - No radio updates for this phone .
If the current root method does not work I will attempt the ones for other devices running 2.1 and might even try the new EVO/Epic root for 2.2.
I'll get this thing rooted if I have to find my own.
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Thankfully I am pretty Android savvy. I just wasn't sure if it was CDMA or GSM - No radio updates for this phone .
If the current root method does not work I will attempt the ones for other devices running 2.1 and might even try the new EVO/Epic root for 2.2.
I'll get this thing rooted if I have to find my own.
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I can't wait to get my US Cellular Desire and I'm really hoping for root. Let us know if you have any luck.
So what are the actual chances that it will work on the uscc desire? I got mine so I guess ill just have to try it tonight.
The us desire has a bootloader 0.98.xxxx you will have to downgrade to a different hboot plus I'm pretty sure all the roms only support a gsm radio.
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The us desire has a bootloader 0.98.xxxx you will have to downgrade to a different hboot plus I'm pretty sure all the roms only support a gsm radio.
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Again, tread with caution... if a different HBOOT bricks the phone... there's not much recourse!
From what I have read/observed, the USCC Desire is basically the same phone as the Nexus One. I would like to know what is different about this thing that would prevent me from rooting and/or upgrading to 2.2.
Anyone have any advice? I can't wait to upgrade this piece.
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From what I have read/observed, the USCC Desire is basically the same phone as the Nexus One. I would like to know what is different about this thing that would prevent me from rooting and/or upgrading to 2.2.
Anyone have any advice? I can't wait to upgrade this piece.
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Well, Desire is CDMA. Nexus one is not. completely different cellular radio HARDWARE. and that pesky slcd is also a problem.
Gonna have better luck adapting a cdma android root. (incredible, evo, etc..) at least they use the same radio technology.
i thought the incredible was supposed to get the slcd also...... that would help alot.
I know this doesn't provide any technical information, but just as an FYI I did ask HTC what their policy on rooting is. They said:
"Of course the Desire is your phone. If you would like to root the phone or install 3rd party software to it, you are more than welcome to. It's just that with any 3rd party software, HTC did not create it so we do not have information on how it works therefore, we can not support it. As far as voiding any warranties, I do not have that information. You may contact our Warranty Deparment at 1-800-229-1235 (8:30 AM - 5 PM EST M-F). They will be able to verify that information with you. HTC has repaired some phones that had the incorrect ROM on them. There may have been a fee for this, I am not certain."
I hadn't gotten around to calling about the warranty. I had read elsewhere that as long as the damage wasn't a result of the rooting that they would still repair a rooted phone under warranty, but I don't know if there's any truth to that.
Anyway, I don't know if this helps alleviate any concerns about experimenting with it or not. I had gotten as far as making a gold card for it yesterday, but I'm kind of afraid to go any further until I can get some more information on this specific phone. I feel like there may be a chance with this method since it takes information from your actual device. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
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I know this doesn't provide any technical information, but just as an FYI I did ask HTC what their policy on rooting is. They said:
"Of course the Desire is your phone. If you would like to root the phone or install 3rd party software to it, you are more than welcome to. It's just that with any 3rd party software, HTC did not create it so we do not have information on how it works therefore, we can not support it. As far as voiding any warranties, I do not have that information. You may contact our Warranty Deparment at 1-800-229-1235 (8:30 AM - 5 PM EST M-F). They will be able to verify that information with you. HTC has repaired some phones that had the incorrect ROM on them. There may have been a fee for this, I am not certain."
I hadn't gotten around to calling about the warranty. I had read elsewhere that as long as the damage wasn't a result of the rooting that they would still repair a rooted phone under warranty, but I don't know if there's any truth to that.
Anyway, I don't know if this helps alleviate any concerns about experimenting with it or not. I had gotten as far as making a gold card for it yesterday, but I'm kind of afraid to go any further until I can get some more information on this specific phone. I feel like there may be a chance with this method since it takes information from your actual device. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
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Once you make a gold card, which rooting technique are you going try? Unrevoked is the simplest overall but I think HBOOT 0.98 fixed the exploit that Unrevoked uses.
I tried unrevoked the other day and it said that it was unsupported. I don't know that I'll go as far as trying to root at this point. I was kind of hoping that someone else would try it first, ha . . . Initially I was doing the gold card just to see if I could at least unbrand it so I could install the OTA update. But then I run into the original issue of whether or not it supports CDMA and/or SLCD. Is there any way to tell aside from actually attempting to flash it? Maybe it would be safer to try one of the methods for the Incredible? Not sure what version of HBOOT that has on it. Honestly, I'm pretty far from being any kind of expert on this. So far I've only had experience with rooting the Moto Droid and that was pretty much cake since the phone is so old at this point.
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I tried unrevoked the other day and it said that it was unsupported. I don't know that I'll go as far as trying to root at this point. I was kind of hoping that someone else would try it first, ha . . . Initially I was doing the gold card just to see if I could at least unbrand it so I could install the OTA update. But then I run into the original issue of whether or not it supports CDMA and/or SLCD. Is there any way to tell aside from actually attempting to flash it? Maybe it would be safer to try one of the methods for the Incredible? Not sure what version of HBOOT that has on it. Honestly, I'm pretty far from being any kind of expert on this. So far I've only had experience with rooting the Moto Droid and that was pretty much cake since the phone is so old at this point.
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There's only one set of RUU that support CDMA at this point. Pretty much any other attempt will brick your desire. You could try one of those RUU's and see if it downgrades where you could root then.
Yeah, I think I'm going to wait until some sort of tested method is worked out. I'm not at any kind of skill level to be figuring this stuff out on my own. Overall I'm pretty pleased with how the phone worked right out of the box. My only major complaint is the lack of internal storage for apps and the fact that you can't remove any of the preinstalled crap. This is the only reason I was really even looking into rooting or unlocking at this point. I just hope that the fact that the EVO and Incredible got their updates means that one can't be far off for the Desire.
psychache - I feel ya there. I got mine and I love it. However, was kinda skiddish on testing on this new unit. Whether or not the insurance would cover it if I bricked it. Even then, would still be another $100 deductible.
I am willing to try something. I already tried the Universal Androot to no avail... no brick or anything, it just didnt take.
Well, if anyone else is up to the challenge you could always call the number I posted above to get a definite answer on whether you would still have coverage if you did brick. I had actually had several replies back and forth with them before I asked specifically about rooting and was very impressed by how responsive and open-minded they were. I'd say of any of the manufacturers they're probably the most likely to be "cool" about it. And you're right, primerorico, worst case scenario is you could do an insurance claim and pay the $100 (you know, because you "lost" it). I know that's not cheap but it's a heck of a lot less than paying the full retail for a new one. Just food for thought for anyone who actually knows what they're doing . . . (unlike myself)
Someone has made some progress in rooting. Not sure if he needs some help but here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7917553
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Someone has made some progress in rooting. Not sure if he needs some help but here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7917553
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Thanks for the link. I'll definitely keep an eye on it.
Hi Everyone, this is my first time here in this section of XDA developers, but I have an interesting situation.
I recently acquired the Merge (Verizon's G2 variant that is still in limbo) and I'm thinking of rooting it. I have tried the instructions on the wiki for gfree 02, but it seems that as soon as I enter adb shell and type in su, I get permission denied. I read the wiki for hot to use gfree and also how to install adb but I have not been able to find an answer.
I'm trying to get the merge SIM unlocked and because this is the first android phone I have ever owned, I would really like to be able to use it on AT&T's network. Anyways, I would like to get some help as to why I am getting the permission denied response when I did everythng as the gfree wiki said to do. Is it possible that the merge is so internally different that gfree will not work on it even if it's a variant?
It's GSM coming from verizon?
If you're trying to use gfree to gain s-off, I would HIGHLY recommend running it with the "-s" flag (no quotations) just to be on the safe side
Even then, I still wouldn't recommend running gfree on the merge as it was made to gain radio s-off on the htc vision.
I would suggest using the rage method for now for root. See if that works.
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@ ratchetrizzo: no, it's just a world phone version for verizon users to use in different countries
@ Pancubano: So you would recommend against using gfree on the merge then? I'm trying to learn how to perform this rage method, but I have no experience in android whatsoever so even while reading the wiki, it seems there are a few things that are omitted or assumed that is common knowledge. By using the rage method, will I be able to achieve sim unlock status?
p.s thanks for replying!
The problem is, the merge is a CDMA device, so I'm pretty sure the sim unlock that gfree achieves with our HTC Vision's would not work on the merge. It involves copying partition 7 (on our phones) and making various hex edits to set the secu_flag to 0, supercid to 11111111 and simunlocking the phone, then copy's the modified partition back to the phone. All of which is taken care of by gfree.
Of course in order to process all of this, you're going to need at the very least temp root first, so, I would highly recommend doing more research into the rage method, but, do not try the gfree method yet, as I can't truely confirm if it will work with the merge with just the "-s" flag.
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"Rooting the Merge" sounds dirty...
You might actually have more luck in the HTC Evo Shift 4G subforum - that's Sprint's version of the G2 (more or less), and thus the internals are more likely to be similar to the Merge than the G2 would be.
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You might actually have more luck in the HTC Evo Shift 4G subforum - that's Sprint's version of the G2 (more or less), and thus the internals are more likely to be similar to the Merge than the G2 would be.
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Actually the merge is closer to the G2/DZ than the Shift 4G, right down to the keyboard and hinge, although I see the point since Sprint is CDMA although this phone is CDMA/GSM
well, thanks for everyone's attempt to help, but I finally realized that Verizon is evil and even if I unlock it, it'll simply be on 2G (EDGE) so there's no point of me having it.
EDIT: so I sold it to someone who is on verizon and will take care of it.
how did you get a hold of one? for some reason i dont believe you even had it from the start, haha. because it hasnt been released yet, and you must of been lucky enough to get an early production version.
I got it from a reviewer of the merge when it first came out. The mod who had it decided to sell it so i took a chance and bought it from him. After trying to unlock it, I finally gave up and because I got a leery of rooting it.
believe me or not, I had it, got to test it out, and finally had to give it up.
check htcmerge.com if you don't believe me. My username is the same as it is here.
EDIT: btw, why would I post this if I don't have it? It seems idiotic for me to post a thread asking for help on a phone that does not technically exist. No, I do not care for the attention. I was tempted to root it but as I said, I simply chickened out.
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I got it from a reviewer of the merge when it first came out. The mod who had it decided to sell it so i took a chance and bought it from him. After trying to unlock it, I finally gave up and because I got a leery of rooting it.
believe me or not, I had it, got to test it out, and finally had to give it up.
check htcmerge.com if you don't believe me. My username is the same as it is here.
EDIT: btw, why would I post this if I don't have it? It seems idiotic for me to post a thread asking for help on a phone that does not technically exist. No, I do not care for the attention. I was tempted to root it but as I said, I simply chickened out.
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Okay okay, its just a lot of speculation about this phone has been floating about and I didn't believe you. How did it run?
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It ran as well as the G2. What I did like alot was that unlike the evo shift 4g, the slider mechanism is spring loaded so it snaps upwards. the battery backing is odd since you have to pry the bottom part then unhook 2 minihooks on the side.
The heft of it is probably heavier than the G2, but it feels good in the hand and doesn't feel like it will slip at all.
Most of all the design is amazing!!
I definitely like the feel of the physical build. It feels tough, sturdy, and simply a phone that a man should have.
I think I might have only 1 gripe and that it's still stuck with bing since the one I bought was the Verizon version. (this was before the rumor that it was pulled back to be fitted with 4g).
In the end, I had to give it up, because I am on AT&T and verizon will never let their phones work on any carrier but theirs.
anyone been able to root a merge? I just got a merge. Didnt know about the phone beforehand and am using it on gsm(it is a worldphone). Once i got home and googled around and checked these forums... its still not released apparently :s so anyone have any idea on how i can root it?
What is needed to make Sprint or VZW S3 ROMs to work on the USCC variant in terms of the radio? Hoping someone could answer this. I'm not familiar with the way Samsungs devices are. I'm attempting to help the USCC folks from being left behind with ROMs. All Sprint ROMs are working flawlessly on the USCC variant. Just not the radio. So again, what needs to be done to make it work?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I would also like to figure this out. I'm on USCC myself.
+1 on this.
I too am a USCC customer. Came over from Sprint. Really happy with the phone and the service. Last weekend I pulled 10mb down in Paoli Wisconsin!
Anyway, want to get a few things modded. Like 180 degree rotation and would really like to get away from that black on white email app!.
Bump.
This is starting to feel like the Photon/Electrify situation all over again. USCC releases a doppelganger phone of one from Sprint and like the red-headed step child USCC is left behind. In that case Jokersax stepped up and started releasing ROMs for the Electrify even though he wasn't a US Cellular customer. Oh, did I mention U.S. Cellular (gotta make sure we got all of the possible spellings so as to hit the search engines).
Not complaining though. Really, if I wanted a tweaks or a custom ROM I would step up and learn how to do it myself.
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Bump.
This is starting to feel like the Photon/Electrify situation all over again. USCC releases a doppelganger phone of one from Sprint and like the red-headed step child USCC is left behind. In that case Jokersax stepped up and started releasing ROMs for the Electrify even though he wasn't a US Cellular customer. Oh, did I mention U.S. Cellular (gotta make sure we got all of the possible spellings so as to hit the search engines).
Not complaining though. Really, if I wanted a tweaks or a custom ROM I would step up and learn how to do it myself.
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The electrify never got left behind like this. All photon ROMs have always worked with no tweaks.
Sadly Samsung is different and won't work as easily with different radios ):
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Yeah, I guess the USCC variant is a bit different than either the Verizon or Sprint versions. I was monkeying around and somehow mucked up my phone so the display wouldn't turn on. I downloaded the Snapdragon Toolbox and was able to reflash stock (I was on rooted stock) to get it back working again. Funny thing though, Now I'm required to hold down the physical "Home" button along with the power button and the corresponding volume button to go into CWM or into download mode.
Jig works fine. Quickboot works fine. Toolbox works fine. Just somehow changed it to require the home button...
The thing is, we weren't even going to root it. I thought that Teamviewer Quicksupport supported all S3's.
I looked and he is running 4.1.1. So...I'm not sure what the big deal is, but no matter what, Quicksupport is not "supported" when we go to the Play Store. If there is a simple fix, I would love this, because he is not tech-savvy and this is why we got this model.
However -
I've only rooted one phone in my life before, when there was only really one way of rooting. It seems I have read that problem abound with these S3 models - more specifically, IMEI may be lost, and choosing exactly which way to root, since there are varying stock kernels.
I see this thread here on the IMEI backup/injection. Am I safe to assume, that is where I start? (I have read that the Bell is just a ATT version, so will the ATT version instructions work here? I will ask in that thread but not sure).
Then - once that is done - I have to pick a way to root it that works for Bell's SIII SGH-1747M. That is where I am running into a bit of a wall. I wonder if I can get someone who has done this with this model to help me out and pick a safe way to mod it? Do I need to post more info to help decide this? I can get on his device and get whatever info is needed.
I also read, that perhaps Bell's stock kernels either do or do not need unsecuring (not quite sure after a lot of reading) before doing anything else. I really am trying to learn - it's just all very daunting and when I'm reading and not understanding, I can still read til the sun explodes and never be able to do this correctly. Well, maybe if I had an unending supply of phones.
Thank you for your help...
I would just ask in the IMEI and other forums but they are not available to me (either post count too low or I'm not sure).
Sincerely,
Foxdev
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The thing is, we weren't even going to root it. I thought that Teamviewer Quicksupport supported all S3's.
I looked and he is running 4.1.1. So...I'm not sure what the big deal is, but no matter what, Quicksupport is not "supported" when we go to the Play Store. If there is a simple fix, I would love this, because he is not tech-savvy and this is why we got this model.
However -
I've only rooted one phone in my life before, when there was only really one way of rooting. It seems I have read that problem abound with these S3 models - more specifically, IMEI may be lost, and choosing exactly which way to root, since there are varying stock kernels.
I see this thread here on the IMEI backup/injection. Am I safe to assume, that is where I start? (I have read that the Bell is just a ATT version, so will the ATT version instructions work here? I will ask in that thread but not sure).
Then - once that is done - I have to pick a way to root it that works for Bell's SIII SGH-1747M. That is where I am running into a bit of a wall. I wonder if I can get someone who has done this with this model to help me out and pick a safe way to mod it? Do I need to post more info to help decide this? I can get on his device and get whatever info is needed.
I would just ask in the IMEI and other forums but they are not available to me (either post count too low or I'm not sure).
Sincerely,
Foxdev
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You can root without worrying about losing your IMEI.. Give this thread a look over.. Click
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You can root without worrying about losing your IMEI.. Give this thread a look over.. Click
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Thanks, I just added it as a part of the research I did I am not worried so much about that anymore, but the other things are like....making my mind explode. All I've ever done so far is my Thunderbolt 2 years ago and that was so easy.
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Thanks, I just added it as a part of the research I did I am not worried so much about that anymore, but the other things are like....making my mind explode. All I've ever done so far is my Thunderbolt 2 years ago and that was so easy.
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this is actually a pretty simple device to root too. Just pick a method and read it over and it'll be pretty hard to screw anything up
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Also make a backup of your imei just in case something goes sideways.
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Also make a backup of your imei just in case something goes sideways.
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Thanks, going to do that for sure
Also, does anyone know with this model if Teamviewer Quicksupport just doesn't work at all? I cant get answers from Teamviewer. If it did I wouldn't need to root the stupid thing!
i don't understand why you believe you need to root to have this app supported. i attempted to use the app and it told me i needed to download an app from here. try that before you root?
edit: also i am rooted and it still did not allow me to use the app. rooting isn't your solution here
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