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I found this ROM:
http://www.gearengine.it/?page_id=2
...and would LOVE to run it on my AT&T GSIII but it says they're running it on the international version. I was planning on giving it a shot anyway but, while I'm working on rooting, I'd ask a few questions.
Think it'd work on the AT&T version?
If not, is there an equivalent ROM that will?
I want to keep ALL the stock functionality...camera wise, hardware wise (NFC, Bluetooth, etc) yet still getting the customization that that ROM afforded (I loved the Aroma installer, the inverted apps, etc) while running an overclock/undervolt kernel so I can juice this thing!
What are you guys running?!
One word of advice would be not to flash an international ROM on your AT&T device. I think that would lead to a brick.
Do some reading in the development sections to familiarize yourself with the basics.
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CamFlawless said:
One word of advice would be not to flash an international ROM on your AT&T device. I think that would lead to a brick.
Do some reading in the development sections to familiarize yourself with the basics.
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I have to agree. I actually just commented in a thread before coming across this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056655
Foxhound was flashed to their device, and their device was hard bricked. Please do not flash i9300 ROMs to US device variants.
I am currently running cm10.0.0 stable. It runs like a dream, not one issue with it so far. I would not recommend the new cm10.1 nightly builds until the data problem is fixed however.
LOL!!!
Well...this website was down for a few and I though ah hell, why not.
smh
Never actually heard of anyone hard bricking a phone. Awesome. This rounds out my Android experience nicely. Just as dude says, it doesn't do a damn thing. No power, not light, no vibration, nothing.
I can't believe there's no way to fix something like this. I'm all around amazed...I must say.
But yea...so...AT&T I go in the morning to test my acting skills I guess. *shrug*
And the Aroma installer was SO COOL!!!! What a shame...
Had I known the consequences could be so dire...
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LOL!!!
Well...this website was down for a few and I though ah hell, why not.
smh
Never actually heard of anyone hard bricking a phone. Awesome. This rounds out my Android experience nicely. Just as dude says, it doesn't do a damn thing. No power, not light, no vibration, nothing.
I can't believe there's no way to fix something like this. I'm all around amazed...I must say.
But yea...so...AT&T I go in the morning to test my acting skills I guess. *shrug*
And the Aroma installer was SO COOL!!!! What a shame...
Had I known the consequences could be so dire...
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Very sorry to hear your luck =( Good luck at AT&T... Don't let this deter you from future ROM flashes, just make sure you are flashing the correct GS3 variant. If you are on AT&T your device is model# i747 and the codename is d2att when flashing ROMs.
I didn't need too many acting skills, I just told them I woke up in the morning and my phone would no longer turn on. They swapped it out pretty quickly =) My hard brick came from a CWM flash when I was inexperienced at flashing. (I came from an iPhone... bleh). I had used a terminal emulator and used some commands to install CWM. Big mistake. I then followed Cyanogenmod's WIKI on installing CWM and it worked like a charm. =)
Of course, in my opinion, nothing beats TWRP recovery installation... Step 1: Download Goo Manager from the PlayStore. Step 2: Click menu and "Install OpenRecovery Script" Step 3: Wait for your phone to reboot into recovery =)
Well now that I'm done with my tangent, I think I'm heading to bed for the night lol. Good luck at the AT&T store tomorrow! ...and have a Happy Holiday! =)
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Very sorry to hear you luck =( Good luck at AT&T... Don't let this deter you from future ROM flashes, just make sure you are flashing the correct GS3 variant. If you are on AT&T your device is model# i747 and the codename is d2att when flashing ROMs.
I didn't need too many acting skills, I just told them I woke up in the morning and my phone would no longer turn on. They swapped it out pretty quickly =)
Again, good luck, and have a Happy Holiday!
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Hey...it's all good man. I've been in the Android game since the G1 and STILL I'm getting firsts. LOL!!! I will ALWAYS hack, tinker and tweak. That's the fun of it...this included.
I KNEW it was the wrong version. However...what I DIDN'T know was the likely outcome! Had no idea. Only ever heard of hard bricks as a mythical monster-like sorta thing. Through my G1 days, GS days, HTC Doubleshot, HTC One S and AAAAAAAAAAALL the devices I've rooted and ROM'd in between (my tablets and who knows how many friend's devices), I've never seen or had a true hard brick happen. Had a close call sorta with the ex-wife's GS, but I fixed it.
Honestly didn't think this was something that could ACTUALLY happen!!!
We'll see what happens.
Thanks everyone!!
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Hey...it's all good man. I've been in the Android game since the G1 and STILL I'm getting firsts. LOL!!! I will ALWAYS hack, tinker and tweak. That's the fun of it...this included.
I KNEW it was the wrong version. However...what I DIDN'T know was the likely outcome! Had no idea. Only ever heard of hard bricks as a mythical monster-like sorta thing. Through my G1 days, GS days, HTC Doubleshot, HTC One S and AAAAAAAAAAALL the devices I've rooted and ROM'd in between (my tablets and who knows how many friend's devices), I've never seen or had a true hard brick happen. Had a close call sorta with the ex-wife's GS, but I fixed it.
Honestly didn't think this was something that could ACTUALLY happen!!!
We'll see what happens.
Thanks everyone!!
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I have been with Android through the GS1, GS2, and now GS3. I totally agree with you. I have done some really stupid stuff, but have always been able to fix the problem, mostly from help from this forum.
It may be just me, but it seems that it is a lot easier to brick the GS3 than its predecessors. Not from personal experience (knock on wood), but from reading through these forums.
Let us know what happens at the AT&T store. As an aside, does anyone ever know what happens in the long run when you turn in a hard brick to AT&T and get it replaced? I would imagine that once they JTAG it they would see that it was flashed. Could they charge you for the device?
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I have been with Android through the GS1, GS2, and now GS3. I totally agree with you. I have done some really stupid stuff, but have always been able to fix the problem, mostly from help from this forum.
It may be just me, but it seems that it is a lot easier to brick the GS3 than its predecessors. Not from personal experience (knock on wood), but from reading through these forums.
Let us know what happens at the AT&T store. As an aside, does anyone ever know what happens in the long run when you turn in a hard brick to AT&T and get it replaced? I would imagine that once they JTAG it they would see that it was flashed. Could they charge you for the device?
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That is a fantastic question. I was concerned about that myself the first time it happened. From my experience I was never charged when I went into the store to do the exchange. No bills came later in regards to it either. I think its pretty safe, but I wouldn't make any guarantees.
I also agree with you in that the GS3 seems a lot easier to brick than other phones I've dealt with.
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Well...they gave me another one. Couldn't get another red one like I wanted since they didn't have any in stock which kinda sucks so I got the blurple one. Looks cool.
Obviously, I can't agree with the comments on the GSIII's resistance to bricking since I had something happen with this device that I've never seen or even HEARD of anyone doing. lol But it's all good. Time to start tinkering again.
Think I'm going to go the CM10 route since that is apparently a good ROM. However...does everything work with it? NFC and all? And...is there an OC/UV kernel that is compatible with that ROM?
As far as what they do with it after, I don't really know. I had to take it back to Best Buy since that's where I got it and it was so soon after getting it. I only had the thing...for...like...4 hrs when it got killed. lol I would imagine that they have the resources to easily fix a device that has had this happen. If they didn't replace it, I was just going to make a JIG for it (http://www.androidnova.org/unbrick-your-hard-bricked-smartphone/).
Thanks for all the help, guys!!!
Well...I didn't kill it. lol
So...first setup I tried:
ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684
Kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
My ratings, out of 10?
Look and feel: 7...I only give it so low since it's EXACTLY the same as the HTC One S ROM I was running. This is usually a good thing but I was wanting something different.
Functionality: 4...every time I send a text, the damn thing says it didn't send! But it does! Very strange, very annoying, very unusable.
Customizability: 12...it's an AOKP ROM...with the Nova launcher...there are a mind bending number of options. I love it!
Quadrant score: 3...What the hell is an overclocked, current gen phone juiced to over 2.1GHZ doing getting ~3600 pts in quadrant? EXTREMELY disappointing.
Final words: Running Android 4.2...awesome. I love being cutting edge, but there isn't anything really awe-inspiring about it aside from the Jelly Bean 4.2 but the text messaging problem is just insurmountable.
Next is going to be this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949025
Going to keep the kernel and we'll see what happens! I'll let you know!
Glad it worked out. =) Just a heads up 4.2 has a lot of common bugs with it being so new. That texting problem is among many. Bluetooth issues, USB MTP issues, internal/external storage swapped, mobile data and WiFi issues to name a few.. I'd recommend sticking to 4.1 unless you don't mind the above annoyances. =p They will get ironed out soon enough I'm sure. =)
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That ROM flat out didn't work...it booted and everything but the keyboard kept giving me an FC. No bueno.
Back to the other I go!
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as customizable as the AWESOME AOKP ROMs but still retain a bit of the Samsung-ness? Like...I like having the burst shot in the camera, the cool gesture and motion stuff they have, etc. Is there a middle ground?
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That ROM flat out didn't work...it booted and everything but the keyboard kept giving me an FC. No bueno.
Back to the other I go!
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as customizable as the AWESOME AOKP ROMs but still retain a bit of the Samsung-ness? Like...I like having the burst shot in the camera, the cool gesture and motion stuff they have, etc. Is there a middle ground?
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Checkout NexusMOD in the development forum. Its a touchwiz ROM with AOSP messaging and email. You can still run Nova Launcher if you want, and holo locker if you don't want the TW lock screen.
I'm still tinkering and trying different ROMs. Downloading LiquidSmooth right now, can't find the NexusMOD one mentioned and I just tryed to flash an AOKP ROM and it wouldn't flash.
I SO BADLY want the 4.2 to work. I LOVE it!!! The Camera (wish it had HDR and multi shot modes, though), the stock messenger, LOCK SCREEN WIDGETS...it's just awesome.
I'm with you all the way rmp5s(except the bricking part), I want this ROM sooo bad. It's stockish which I like, yet has a lot of mods, any word yet on it coming to I747?
relatively recently I acquired the Samsung Galaxy S3 from metro pcs. Ive been registered with you the fine people of XDA for all of about an hour now and hopefully this first question I post will be by far the most remedial of any I post.
I have the SCH-R530M and am unable to find a "correct" forum for my device. With the upcoming merger between t-mobile and Metro it made the most sense to post here and ask if there is a forum for me that i have overlooked and just missed or if this is indeed where i should post for the closest approximation of information for my device.
any help would be greatly appreciated
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relatively recently I acquired the Samsung Galaxy S3 from metro pcs. Ive been registered with you the fine people of XDA for all of about an hour now and hopefully this first question I post will be by far the most remedial of any I post.
I have the SCH-R530M and am unable to find a "correct" forum for my device. With the upcoming merger between t-mobile and Metro it made the most sense to post here and ask if there is a forum for me that i have overlooked and just missed or if this is indeed where i should post for the closest approximation of information for my device.
any help would be greatly appreciated
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Yes you should come to the T-Mobile forums, but I would limit my posts if you mess up on anything, ie flashing ROMs/etc., and if you have any knowledge when it comes to ROMs about the whole S3 family it's that the files for each carrier are shown as dat&t, dtmo, dvzw, so if you flash any ROM you should dig into the files and change those values to Metro.
People do that all the time like flashing an AT&T ROM on their TMO version, just change the values.
I dont know about the Metro s3 as its a CDMA but check out PureMotive guide on the verizon forums. It may help you. Also Check Android Forum they have a lot of metro pcs phones listed in there. Its like xda
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Yes you should come to the T-Mobile forums, but I would limit my posts if you mess up on anything, ie flashing ROMs/etc., and if you have any knowledge when it comes to ROMs about the whole S3 family it's that the files for each carrier are shown as dat&t, dtmo, dvzw, so if you flash any ROM you should dig into the files and change those values to Metro.
People do that all the time like flashing an AT&T ROM on their TMO version, just change the values.
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Um....you should limit your posts since you don't know what the hell you are talking about, you are encouraging this dude to brick his phone.
As the previous poster said it is a CDMA phone (no simcard) so you have the potential to brick your phone by flashing something that's not made for it. What I would do, is google it. "Metro PCS Galaxy SIII XDA" see if you find a section for your phone.
thanks for the input guys, right now my plan is to unlock and possibly root the s3. With it being cdma I'm then going to have it flashed over to a far cheaper service running off the Verizon network, this way I will have a fully functional s3 fully unlimited and service in virtually everyplace I choose to roam. right now the "sister carrier" doesn't have the ability to flash the S3 to their service. so im just waiting it out for now, figured maybe i'll tweak my 3 and possibly root it before I switch
metro pcs GS3/ sprint GS3 and shutter sound
just in case anyone else who got their GS3 through metro i thought i would through up a small helpful hint i figured out a while ago. I know alot of people myself included hate the shutter sound on their camera and with most phones you can willingly shut that sound off for capturing images. on certain carrier models of the GS3 the carrier locked this option so you aren't able to shut the sound off ( sprint has done just this) and it can become quite annoying.
you could get another camera app and just use that and it being the awesome app that it is ( whatever it is) has the option to shut off the shutter sound. this is one option, but one that I surpassed in favor of an app that can handle my little shutter sound issue and do more quite conveniently.
the app is called AUTOMATEIT. with this free app you can set triggers and rules for when those triggers are optioned. i use this app for a great many things, but i found it quite hand for silencing the camera. the rule i set was that when the camera app was activated the entire phone went to vibrate mode. when my camera app is launched the phone vibrates and this signals that indeed my camera is up and ready which is quite handy for the quick pictures that catch you off guard. when the camera app has ceased usage, i set it to go back into normal volume mode and my phone and I live happily ever after.
hopefully this post helps someone else as much as this knowledge has helped me.
LiquidSmooth 4.2.2 ROM is available for both the ATT and Verizon S3's. I have the ATT and I regularly flash my Cousin and his wife's phones for them. But they're four hours away and I won't see them again for a couple months.
What I've done in the past with my ATT Skyrocket was to flash a TMobile Hercules ROM on it and customize it the way it needs to be, then just sent it to them to restore from CWM.
But, the Skyrocket & Hercules were essentially the same phone. So now that we all have the S3, and they are on Verizon now, I'm not sure how well I'll get away with this.
Basically I flash the ROM on my phone. Install all their apps. Set up all little tweaks & customizations. Then do a Nandroid for them to restore on their phone. Makes it a nice and TIGHT phone. They love it, and I get killer BBQ & Beer & Pool fun when I go visit every few months.
The Wife's phone has been having issues, so it's time for a new flash. And they're still on 4.1.1 ROM's.
I know the TMO & ATT S3's can share the same ROM. But I don't want to brick my ATT S3 with a Verizon S3 ROM flash, even if it's just for a couple hours while I set it up. Wondering if it's absolute trouble waiting to happen?
Its different. I had to root my friends vzw s3 and the whole process is different, and I'm sure the partitions are different.
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They are already rooted (TWRP). But that's a good point about the partitioning.
Definitely not going to do something unless someone else has already leapt from this bridge before me....
Nope. I wouldn't try it either.
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Don't do it. You will brick their phones. The system files are very different. with different hardware as well. The antenna mainly. As well as a special dialer app and files to work on the out dated cdma network
Wayne Tech S-III
It might work, you wouldnt have signal.... I wouldnt try it though.
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Bootloader is different. Kernel is different. The partitions may be even set up differently. Different radio bands, RILs and other items will cause it to brick.
Maybe it's the allergy meds I'm on, or maybe I just felt like testing the boundries.
Just flashed AOKP's Verizon 4.2.2 3/5/13 release on my D2ATT.
Phone still boots & works.
Well, data doesn't work (as you guys said it wouldn't). But WiFi does work.
Rebooted and installed gapps. Set up a bunch of settings. So far, so good. Though Play Store does crash. Can't get past that so far.
EDIT:
I just flashed the Verizon version of Slim Bean 4.2.2.
It had an option for me to not only add an APN, but also to select GSM. The AOKP did not.
After setting up these two things, data is working fine. Made a phone call too.
Playstore working also.
Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
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The worst part about the android community, unfortunately, is the fragmentation of general knowledge. The rooting process for a Nexus is probably identical to a Note 2 but the names of everything and builds and versions are all different, so you have to learn new 'words' like it is a new language. Fortunately you have a great community so you just have to learn how to search for things. Check the general section for android development I think there is a sticky that has a glossory of terms that explains all the acronyms.
I've had mine for 3 months but I would still welcome a crash course as well.
Well I prefer twrp as my custom recovery. Depending on your firmware version you can root without your phone ever going to download mode. I did. I used exynos abuse to get root. Then used mobile odin to flash a new rom. Always reset google wallet if you are reseting or flashing a new rom. Its tempermental. I would stay around only the sprint veraion for now. There is a way to use roms from other note 2 variants. I believe its in the dev section. Recovery is standalone. So swirching roms doesnt change it. You cannot talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time unless you are using wifi or 4glte. If you like to draw or doodle there is sketchbook mobile which is awesome. Btw ma7 is the most current firmware that I know of. Also you can sideload the google wallet apk with no extra work to get it working. Goodluck and read alot.
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what is the benefit of rooting
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You need root to do most modifications to your phone. I find that I need root for everyday stuff too (Titanium backup, Stweaks, Root app delete, etc).
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what is CWM and TWRP
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ClockWork Mod and TeamWin Recovery Project. Both have custom recovery pieces. I personally had some troubles with CWM on this phone and just use Odin now. I head TWRP works better than CWM on the Note 2, but Odin is the Tool Samsung suggests. Note that TWRP is MUCH more feature-rich than Odin. You might choose TWRP (or CWM) if you wanted to flash stuff from your SD card rather than from your PC- good for jumping around between kernels on the fly, for example.
Odin and the other two are all ways to flash stuff to your phone. That's all Odin does; the other two have lots more features.
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can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney
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Heck yeah! Simplest way is to root it and uninstall everything you don't like (Root App Delete from the Play Store seems to work pretty well; be sure you have a backup before you start blowing stuff away).
If you'd like to take it a step further, get a custom ROM that's been debloated; they normally require a full wipe, so bye bye sprint stuff. (Again, root it and back it up first!)
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You need root to do most modifications to your phone. I find that I need root for everyday stuff too (Titanium backup, Stweaks, Root app delete, etc).
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I appreciate you taking the time to go through all that, but I think maybe I didn't explain too well what I was trying to get. I wasn't asking for the general info, just things specific to CDMA and the L900. Like what was replying about. Not trying to be a jerk, but I know there's already a thousand threads on recoverys, ROMs, and rooting. Just didn't wanna do anything to my phone that would be irreversible (i.e. The resetting Google Wallet thing) or something that would cause signal issues (I read stuff on flashing certain ROMs on certain modems may create issues). Stuff like that. Like I said though appreciate the time you took, and any info you may have like that would certainly be appreciated.
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Oh I forgot. If you are on ljc expect to not go back to it if you update to ma7. For some reason lots of people have had trouble going back. It would cause slot of problems. Ma7 is just fine for me though. Great battery life and what not. I would say do the update. If you are going custom rom and are currently unrooted just do the ota. Or there is a firmware file around here to flash. I updated firmware before going to ma7. Although I was already rooted using exynos abuse. Ma7 eliminates the exploit. So be prepared to do that before going to ma7. If there is anything I am missing that you still need answers to or don't understand just ask. Its also a good habit to update profile and prl when switching roms or modems.
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...If you are going custom rom and are currently unrooted just do the ota. Or there is a firmware file around here to flash. I updated firmware before going to ma7. Although I was already rooted using exynos abuse. Ma7 eliminates the exploit. So be prepared to do that before going to ma7...
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I picked up something along those lines from reading around. It took all of 15 minutes out of the box before I got all rooted with new ROMs being flashed after playing around on stock just to get a baseline with all the ROM hoping that was sure to follow. Needless to say I didn't read up on anything modem wise before doing all this as I, admittedly, jumped the gun a little (I was just so excited to have a whole new community with new dev teams and all these foreign ROMs to explore). I used Max's trusty galaxynote2root site to root (love that guy). And used the GalaxyNote2RootSprint.zip to obtain root. Then, went straight into the original development section and immediately flashed the absolutely amazing Liquid Smooth. Now I should say, I did receive a message saying the was an update to the phone through sprint and I did proceed with the OTA while dling the zip and giving root instructions a quick once over. So, I'm guessing that took care of going to ma7 for me? Cuz I'm definitely using the ma7 modem. Now I did leave my beloved aosp as I did want to see if I would actually use all the S pen features that aosp sadly doesn't offer us. I jumped around from Whapasaurous to Venom Ice a d finally to Macks All Star, but I'm assuming that unless it's totally different from GSM that flashing a new ROM has no effect on your modem (but by all means correct me if I'm wrong). So just wanna make sure I went about things the right way here.
P. S. I did use the zip to revert the sd cards file format when returning from aosp so I didn't have to deal with all that "0" and "legacy" nonsense.
Thanks again!
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P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
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I think you should have stayed with Tmobile and there 70 dollar unlimited because in a few months to a year you would have had lte and hspa+42 &21 as a fall back before you went to slow data. Im making the jump slowly but surely. My wife is getting the S4 on Tmobile and when the note3 comes out ill be going as well im sick of cdma amd the slow data when there is no LTE
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P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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Sprint Connection Optimizer will do that
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P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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You need to turn off sprint connection optimizer in setting more settings I believe
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I think you should have stayed with Tmobile and there 70 dollar unlimited because in a few months to a year you would have had lte and hspa+42 &21 as a fall back before you went to slow data. Im making the jump slowly but surely. My wife is getting the S4 on Tmobile and when the note3 comes out ill be going as well im sick of cdma amd the slow data when there is no LTE
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I really only made the move due to the fact that T-mobile is the only service provider that gets absolutely no coverage inside my work, and, unfortunately, I work 12 hour days, 4-5 days a week. So, being as my contract was up, I didn't wanna sign up for 2 more years with lte "coming soon." I know you all with Sprint know how that has the possibility of turning out. Plus, just because they were getting lte doesn't mean I'm going to see any improvement at work. Now I'm getting consistent 3g inside work and I'm loving it. Actually typing this inside, infamously, the worst service area in the entire building and still getting an almost constant connection. Occasionally I am getting 4g, not often, but it's happened. Playing around with modems tonight though. Did end up trying LJC after being on MA7,no problems so far, actually seeing improvement. Thanks for the heads up on the Sprint Connection Optimizer, gonna check that out now. Super annoying, especially as I do work 12 hour shifts and with wifi turning randomly on, don't wanna look to see my battery down to nada. That's just the kinda info I was hoping to get here, thanks again!
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
I really only made the move due to the fact that T-mobile is the only service provider that gets absolutely no coverage inside my work, and, unfortunately, I work 12 hour days, 4-5 days a week. So, being as my contract was up, I didn't wanna sign up for 2 more years with lte "coming soon." I know you all with Sprint know how that has the possibility of turning out. Plus, just because they were getting lte doesn't mean I'm going to see any improvement at work. Now I'm getting consistent 3g inside work and I'm loving it. Actually typing this inside, infamously, the worst service area in the entire building and still getting an almost constant connection. Occasionally I am getting 4g, not often, but it's happened. Playing around with modems tonight though. Did end up trying LJC after being on MA7,no problems so far, actually seeing improvement. Thanks for the heads up on the Sprint Connection Optimizer, gonna check that out now. Super annoying, especially as I do work 12 hour shifts and with wifi turning randomly on, don't wanna look to see my battery down to nada. That's just the kinda info I was hoping to get here, thanks again!
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Yeah the wifi thing Will kill your battery. Sprint is not as bad as everyone thinks and says I have great LTE in 90% of where I go. I'm thinking of going to T-Mobile because I'm sick of cdma devices we are always are considered last ro none over GSM. If sprint keeps up the good work with the LtE and 3g ill be saying. Glad you hot it figured out for rh the most part.
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Hello all,
I'm just wondering, do you guys notice or know of any real difference b/t the unlocked/non-carrier firmware that's out there and the carrier-specific firmware from T-Mobile for the M8? Is one considered better than the other?
Please share your thoughts with us!
Thank You,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Hello all,
I'm just wondering, do you guys notice or know of any real difference b/t the unlocked/non-carrier firmware that's out there and the carrier-specific firmware from T-Mobile for the M8? Is one considered better than the other?
Please share your thoughts with us!
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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I know my experience with the M7 (yes i know its an M8 forum but still somewhat relevant) is Yes, the carrier firmware was better.
I had a Stock TMO branded M7. I did the full conversion to make it a GPe unit. It was nice but i had some signal issues. It was better with the TMO radios but ultimately i put it back to stock TMO and for me i got the best results like that.
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I know my experience with the M7 (yes i know its an M8 forum but still somewhat relevant) is Yes, the carrier firmware was better.
I had a Stock TMO branded M7. I did the full conversion to make it a GPe unit. It was nice but i had some signal issues. It was better with the TMO radios but ultimately i put it back to stock TMO and for me i got the best results like that.
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No I think the M7 experience is definitely still relevant!
Ok, you're the first one so far here to say that. So the radios change based on the firmware? Why is that? I mean, why would the radios be affected by the firmware? Seems to me it'd be better to leave the radios alone and let them remain how they came.
My previous OTA was from T-Mobile, but in order to get updated ViperOne M8, I had to get the firmware for 2.22 and T-Mo wasn't deploying it. They apparently just approved it on the 18th, but as u prob read above, I'm not even sure if they've deployed it, and what it contains. I seem to have as much signal quality as before. I just wish they'd have VoLTE deployed for the M8s. That would be great.
RockStar2005
I have been with T-Mobile less then 2 years. Prior to that i was with sprint over 10 years. I got most of my "radio" experience flashing different radios for the Samsung GS2.
That device was super finikey when it came to radios. I also found at the time that 3 different network vendors set up most of the CDMA network in the USA for Sprint. So for me having a specific radio work well meant that same one might not work so well up north. Samsung was also known to not have very good hardware / antennas (when i say radios i am referring to the firmware for the specific device.) So while my devices hardware stayed the same Samsung was making software tweaks during each revision of software.
But to keep it simple, Yes, different versions of radios can work differently in each device. Thats even with stock radios. Then if you add stuff like a GPe radio to a stock unit, or what i had with my M7 using a GPe ROM with a TMO radio. It always pains me to see people who post about using carrier A phone unlocked with carrier B network. Those people will never get the most out of their hardware network wise because carrier B has worked with the manufacturer to make sure their device is created to be specific to their network. Sure an unlocked will work but not at 100% efficiency. It could be a hardware limitation, could be some software that is baked into the ROM to make it work better, or even as simple as TMO baking in WiFi calling with their network.
I mean look what happened to the Note 3 for TMO. Originally it shipped with LTE not even enabled. The hardware was there then BAM, with an OTA LTE was enabled. Flash forward to the last few months, 2 separate updates for VoLTE. Those are radios updates that are specific to the hardware in the Note 3.
Hopefully someone else can chime in as well. Id hate to think im the only one.
Six,
No you explained that rather well! My cousin has the Note 3 so I know what u said about the last part (on VoLTE) is def true. I wish HTC would hurry the F up and give us M8 ppl VoLTE. Would be nice. And make it available everywhere, not just major cities (it's avail in Chicago, but I live 25-30 min away).
I have a buddy who works for U.S. Cellular corporate, and he said the same thing. Unlocked phones, esp ones sold by one carrier but used on another's network, don't work AS well as when the phone is made for your carrier's network. International phones at least I believe work fine if released OFFICIALLY in the U.S. (i.e., Sony's Xperia Z2, which is ONLY avail that way in the U.S.), because they've been tested on ALL carrier networks/bands, but that's diff than using say a Sprint phone on T-Mobile's network, I believe. (Or using a phone that wasn't approved for all the major U.S. carriers.)
So far you're the only who seems pro-carrier firmware/OTAs, but that's ok. That's why I started this thread, so I can get all sides of the story. But if you read the previous posts, the other posters make a compelling argument that's pro-noncarrier. It sounds like in my situation I'm fine, b/c I'm pretty sure the int't M8 was tested on T-Mo's bands already. The firmware would just go along with that same data, so I don't think I'm having any loss of quality. Now if I carrier-unlocked my phone and tried it on Sprint or Verizon, or even AT&T......... then I would expect a loss of quality at some level.
Thanks,
RockStar2005
Agreed. I see merits in both custom roms, stock roms, GPe Roms and Cyanogen.
Back in the GS2 days i was a big fan of using some of those custom ROMS guys would cook up. It fixed a lot of issues with Android.
But for ME, since 4.2.2 and up, i have been happy with stock ROMs.
In fact i almost always ran custom roms on my older devices and only recently started to leave them stock.
The last thing was when TMO gave me 3 GB free tethering, that was the last thing i might have rooted for.
My note 3 is stock, my M8 is still stock. and my back up M7 is stock (after putting GPe on it for a few weeks and testing stuff out).
I for one use my M8 as my daily phone and my Note 3 as my back up / game device.
For example, today at lunch i had local news streaming on my M8 while my Note 3 was tethered to my M8. On my Note 3 i was playing a few games while i waited for my food then answered a few emails and chatted with a friend on Hangouts.
With TMOs recent 4.4.3 update my M8 seems to run better then before and i feel im getting better battery life out of it.
Cant wait for my Note 3 to get 4.4.3 or 4.4.4. Also really looking forward to Android L on both of the units.
The way i look at it is what are YOUR pros and cons. LOL.
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Agreed. I see merits in both custom roms, stock roms, GPe Roms and Cyanogen.
Back in the GS2 days i was a big fan of using some of those custom ROMS guys would cook up. It fixed a lot of issues with Android.
But for ME, since 4.2.2 and up, i have been happy with stock ROMs.
In fact i almost always ran custom roms on my older devices and only recently started to leave them stock.
The last thing was when TMO gave me 3 GB free tethering, that was the last thing i might have rooted for.
My note 3 is stock, my M8 is still stock. and my back up M7 is stock (after putting GPe on it for a few weeks and testing stuff out).
I for one use my M8 as my daily phone and my Note 3 as my back up / game device.
For example, today at lunch i had local news streaming on my M8 while my Note 3 was tethered to my M8. On my Note 3 i was playing a few games while i waited for my food then answered a few emails and chatted with a friend on Hangouts.
With TMOs recent 4.4.3 update my M8 seems to run better then before and i feel im getting better battery life out of it.
Cant wait for my Note 3 to get 4.4.3 or 4.4.4. Also really looking forward to Android L on both of the units.
The way i look at it is what are YOUR pros and cons. LOL.
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My "pros and cons" list involves having all pros and NO cons! lol
I think I'll prob just wait for the T-Mo OTAs from now on, but then again, b/c I have ViperOne, I won't know when they get deployed unless I constantly revert back to stock. Ughh! I guess so far I haven't really noticed a difference in signal and call quality since installing a non-carrier firmware, though it's only been like not even 2 weeks yet since I did it.
That's cool though that you're so happy with it. Perhaps your posts are an indication that T-Mobile has gotten better with their overall quality, and so that's something to look forward to for when I do go back to stock (whenever that is lol).
Thank You,
RockStar2005
Most people make a big deal about carrier OTAs. So you really dont need to revert back to check for them. As long as your active on the boards you will know when a device gets an OTA.
I failed to mention that part of why im happy with stock is because devices are now getting to the point where they are so fast that having bloat ware on them doesnt noticeably slow down the devices like they used to. At least i dont notice it. Pluse with 4.2.2 they allow you to "disable" most apps you dont want to use. So thats another plus.
Back in the day i used to root and do the custom ROM for extra battery life, or tethering, or to make the device snappier.
I honestly would have thought that someone else might have chimed in by now and added their 2 cents.
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Most people make a big deal about carrier OTAs. So you really dont need to revert back to check for them. As long as your active on the boards you will know when a device gets an OTA.
I failed to mention that part of why im happy with stock is because devices are now getting to the point where they are so fast that having bloat ware on them doesnt noticeably slow down the devices like they used to. At least i dont notice it. Pluse with 4.2.2 they allow you to "disable" most apps you dont want to use. So thats another plus.
Back in the day i used to root and do the custom ROM for extra battery life, or tethering, or to make the device snappier.
I honestly would have thought that someone else might have chimed in by now and added their 2 cents.
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Six,
Yeah, that's true. Or I can check on T-Mobile's update site, though there may still be some delay b/c of how they deploy OTAs: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-10366
I've noticed that too, and before I got ViperOne and also Titanium Backup, I was disabling several apps too. Though I prefer to just uninstall them.
RockStar2005
Six,
I talked to one of the ppl at Team Venom, and he said he has T-Mobile and recommends just taking T-Mobile's firmware updates for better cell reception. I'll do that from now on. But for now, if anyone is interested, I have here a link to the latest radio image file for the M8 (as of 8/27). Just download and "install flash" in TWRP.
And if you're rooted and want to get rid of the "red splash" screen during boot-up, try flashing the attached mod! :victory:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/beucjivbc4i9y3u/RadioUpdate_2.22.531.5_1.19.213311491.03G.zip
Thank You,
RockStar2005
So... My question now.. I'm one of those buy vzw m8 take over to T-Mobile. I'm running viper 2.3. It runs great. But vzw never updated to newest firmware.so my question I guess is... Can I flash a T-Mobile radio or firmware to my vzw phone? I kinda know the answer, but I'd rather ask. So if I can.. that'll be great!
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I know on the M7 that would brick the unit.
The CDMA and GSM units had different hardware and flashing any GSM ROM into a CDMA unit bricked them.
I want to say the same holds for the M8.
Can someone else confirm that for me?
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I know on the M7 that would brick the unit.
The CDMA and GSM units had different hardware and flashing any GSM ROM into a CDMA unit bricked them.
I want to say the same holds for the M8.
Can someone else confirm that for me?
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Yeah thanks I kinda figured that, but you know it never hurts to ask, especially if it has the potential to maybe work out.
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Then maybe would it be better for me when Verizon gets the ota for 4.4.3.... I should implement that, and then.... Redo my rom?
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