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My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
1) Bluetooth sound quality - we each use Bluetooth headsets and have noticed lots of crackling unless the phone is turned with the back facing the headset. This didn't happen with our previous phones (same headsets) unless we got 15-20 feet away from the phone.
2) Dropped calls - I've noticed a ton of dropped calls when I'm talking on the phone and driving along my normal work commute. There are 1-2 holes along the route where my previous phone would drop, but this one drops 5-6 times. I found these radio updates in the ROM forum. Would that help?
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
e_dogg said:
My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
1) Bluetooth sound quality - we each use Bluetooth headsets and have noticed lots of crackling unless the phone is turned with the back facing the headset. This didn't happen with our previous phones (same headsets) unless we got 15-20 feet away from the phone.
2) Dropped calls - I've noticed a ton of dropped calls when I'm talking on the phone and driving along my normal work commute. There are 1-2 holes along the route where my previous phone would drop, but this one drops 5-6 times. I found these radio updates in the ROM forum. Would that help?
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
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As for #4: Not all programs have a landscape mode natively.
jlczl said:
As for #4: Not all programs have a landscape mode natively.
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Thanks. I figured that she might be using an app that doesn't work in landscape since I haven't come across it yet.
Also, regarding #2, I should have mentioned that I have 4.48.25.20 as my current radio.
1) I use Jabra 2nd gen and mine is working great. A little crackling sound but nothing major.
2) Depend on the area you live and coverage, you might want to try different radio. I have stock radio and mine is working great. Better than my fuze was actually. I can get 1 or more bar than Fuze and call quality is super clear. No drop calls yet while I had like 2-3 drop calls with my fuze.
3) I am still running on stock rom and yes indeed it's slow and sluggish. I have to reset the phone physically sometimes. I am not too happy about moving the battery cover just to reset as well. With custom rom, the phone will be snappy since some people are running custom rom with their Tilt2 already. I am in the same boat as you. Waiting for the complete stock rom dump. Until then.
4) Not all the landscape work as you have already found out.
I use a BlueAnt and my BT reception is good.
I thought mine was slow at first but as I tweaked it a bit, turning off alerts and pop ups, it SEEMS to be more of what I expected.
Haven't had a dropped call issue.
But, I am thinking that I will flash the ROM when something comes along.
Thanks for the replies.
FWIW, my wife uses a Jawbone 2 and the crackling is noticable on both ends of the call. I use a first-gen Jawbone and have nocticed the crackling as well. It seems that it works better when the phone is on the same side of my body as the headset. I did not notice this crackling on my Dash and Blackjack 2 nor her Dash.
I think the dropped calls problem is definitely area related. My wife is currently out of town and it hasn't dropped her calls at all that I know of. And when I'm at home, it's no problem. It's just that on my regular commute, it drops 5-6 times where my previous Dash and Blackjack 2 only dropped once or twice occasionally. I've only made my commute once since I got the Tilt2, so maybe there were some coincidental network issues. That said, call quality has been very good.
I just turned off the new SMS notifications. I've also removed a couple of tabs that I know I'm never going to use (stocks, AT&T, and music) at that seems to have made things a little snappier too.
HAH! Not more than 1-2 minutes after I posted my last message (from my laptop), I went to use the internet connection on my Tilt2 and it locked up. A message appeared asking if I wanted to send error details to MS and then my phone turned off.
Another thing I've noticed is that Opera takes a *really* long time to switch from landscape to portrait. And it seems to be significantly slower than Opera Mini was on my Dash and Blackjack 2. Maybe because Opera Mini is Java-based on those platforms?
My wife is now reporting that her Tilt2 won't unlock unless she slides open the keyboard. Her Exchange connection requires the phone to automatically lock and require a PIN entry. I suggested tapping the power button but that doesn't wake it up, either.
Any suggestions? I'm thinking she might have a bum unit since mine isn't having nearly the trouble hers is.
As far as the lockups, I think there was a thread somewhere about that. Mine doesn't actually lock up but it hangs horribly. Give it 5min or so and it figures itself out, usually involves opening the keyboard at the same time it is launching something, sms in my case.
Suggestion? Hard reset hers and if it continues swap it out.
SoapDoctor said:
As far as the lockups, I think there was a thread somewhere about that. Mine doesn't actually lock up but it hangs horribly. Give it 5min or so and it figures itself out, usually involves opening the keyboard at the same time it is launching something, sms in my case.
Suggestion? Hard reset hers and if it continues swap it out.
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Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, she's out of town right now so I actually haven't seen the things she's complaining about first-hand (except for a couple of things that have happened on mine too).
I'll send her instructions for a hard reset and see if she's adventurous enough to try it on her own. The AT&T store near where she's at is exceptionally good - they really know Windows Mobile there and were a big help in getting the phone initially set up. So, worst case, she can go there and have them do it.
e_dogg said:
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, she's out of town right now so I actually haven't seen the things she's complaining about first-hand (except for a couple of things that have happened on mine too).
I'll send her instructions for a hard reset and see if she's adventurous enough to try it on her own. The AT&T store near where she's at is exceptionally good - they really know Windows Mobile there and were a big help in getting the phone initially set up. So, worst case, she can go there and have them do it.
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Don't run to fast with my advice, I'm a complete noob but hard reset would be the first thing I would try. It is a microsoft product after all and I'm pretty dman lazy to run to the store first.
FWIW- I have a Jawbone 2 and have cracking in the audio. Had it with my Fuze also and have always wondered if it was the headset or phone. I don't think I could keep my fuze in the holster because of the crackling.
I have some slight performance issues, but it's not to bad. Seems mostly relating to minimizing a program and starting a new one.
I have a strange problem with the TF3D photo tab. It's slow to get the image clear. I select an image and then try to scroll through them. It hangs on one, then flips it's orientation (I haven't moved the phone though). Anyone else have issues with the photo tab?
e_dogg said:
My wife and I each purchased Tilt2's earlier this week. We both come from Windows Mobile 6.1 phones and are generally happy with WinMo products and comfortable with tweaking them.
We're both having some trouble with the Tilt2 and I'm hoping that someone here might be able to help.
3) General performance - The phone seems a little bit laggy and slow to react. Nothing like what we saw in demo videos on sites like wmexperts.com. My wife even reports that hers has completely locked up on her before. And I've noticed a severe lag waiting for the phone to come back after I've flipped the keyboard out. I assume that installing a custom ROM would help with this as it's helped on previous phones we've owned. However, there isn't a 100% working AT&T ROM to revert to yet (only one that appears to work is missing radio and bootsplash at this point) in case the custom ROM doesn't perform better, so I'm a little leary of doing it. Should I be worried? Or will the custom ROMs here help get rid of the lagginess.
4) Switching to landscape mode - My wife told me that her phone isn't always switching to landscape mode. She doesn't have any apps installed yet so I'm assuming it's in all of the default screens. Should everything work in landscape mode?
Thanks in advance!
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#3 I am running NRG ROM Photon date 10/17 and it is insane on my tilt 2. No radio change either. Stupid fast, eye candy, and never a dropped call or sluggish issues. Link below (5k plus thread, really read the first page to see the versions and Faq's)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
I'd like to add that I'm also having some issues with sound and response time.
My phone starts fresh with about 65% of resources used up. After regular phone/contacts usage for an hour I'm at around 70% and after Opera, the phone is done. I can browse or use file explorer or music but there goes the multi-tasking.
I haven't flashed a ROM yet. I just wanted to see what AT&T did with this thing 1st.
One more thing, why did they switch the FN and Shift keys? My brain is having a hard time getting used to it, especially when the shortcuts that require the Fn key are on the bottom row.
I can't really help you out too much, but I haven't been experiencing many of these problems at all, and I'm still on the stock rom, just cleaned it up a bit. Spend some time on the forums and you'll find some good quick hacks to try before you try a new rom.
superrrguy said:
I'd like to add that I'm also having some issues with sound and response time.
My phone starts fresh with about 65% of resources used up. After regular phone/contacts usage for an hour I'm at around 70% and after Opera, the phone is done. I can browse or use file explorer or music but there goes the multi-tasking.
I haven't flashed a ROM yet. I just wanted to see what AT&T did with this thing 1st.
One more thing, why did they switch the FN and Shift keys? My brain is having a hard time getting used to it, especially when the shortcuts that require the Fn key are on the bottom row.
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Touch FLO 3D uses up quite a bit of RAM. I unloaded it and restarted, and my phone is down from 65% to 49%. Unfortunately, I'm kind of liking Touch FLO 3D
Linear2202 said:
FWIW- I have a Jawbone 2 and have cracking in the audio. Had it with my Fuze also and have always wondered if it was the headset or phone. I don't think I could keep my fuze in the holster because of the crackling.
I have some slight performance issues, but it's not to bad. Seems mostly relating to minimizing a program and starting a new one.
I have a strange problem with the TF3D photo tab. It's slow to get the image clear. I select an image and then try to scroll through them. It hangs on one, then flips it's orientation (I haven't moved the phone though). Anyone else have issues with the photo tab?
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Good info about your Jawbone issues. I have an old Plantronics headset that I'm not really using anymore. Maybe I'll give that one a try to see if it's just that Jawbones don't like these new versions of HTC phones (it worked great on her Dash).
As for the photos tab, it seems to work ok. Though the first "flip" through the pictures seems to be slower than subsequent flips.
I found that hiding tabs I won't be using like the "AT&T" tab seems to help speed things up. I think I have 3 or 4 hidden.
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#3 I am running NRG ROM Photon date 10/17 and it is insane on my tilt 2. No radio change either. Stupid fast, eye candy, and never a dropped call or sluggish issues. Link below (5k plus thread, really read the first page to see the versions and Faq's)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
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Thanks - good to hear of your sucess with the NRG ROM. That's the one I'm planning on trying since I really like the 6.5.1 changes.
redpoint73 said:
Touch FLO 3D uses up quite a bit of RAM. I unloaded it and restarted, and my phone is down from 65% to 49%. Unfortunately, I'm kind of liking Touch FLO 3D
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Yeah, Touch FLO 3D sure is purty. And, now that I have the tabs sorted and hidden the way I like, it's very easy to use.
Just an update...the Energy ROM seems to have cured the dropped calls. With the stock AT&T ROM, calls dropped about 5-6 times on my regular commute. With the Energy ROM, not a single one!
Something that has happened to me now a few times...I get a call on the phone. Caller ID and picture show up fine. Screen turns off..later i turn the screen on and the phone number is not accurate any longer and the picture is gone..
Anyone had this happen to them?
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Something that has happened to me now a few times...I get a call on the phone. Caller ID and picture show up fine. Screen turns off..later i turn the screen on and the phone number is not accurate any longer and the picture is gone..
Anyone had this happen to them?
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Yep - happened quite often with the stock AT&T ROM. I don't recall seeing it after switching to the Energy ROM.
I'm currently using an EnergyROM w/ Sense 2.5 on my Touch Pro 2 and am happy with everything so far, however my only let down with Windows Mobile is the types of applications made available for it.
I'm wondering whether it's worth me installing Android on my phone for the sake of having better quality applications and games?
Or is it still too early in development for something like that? I remember awhile back people were saying the sound wasn't working.
As far as Android go and whether its worth installing really depends on what type of apps you need. The sound is still not working on the external speaker at the moment as well as some other functions. With your current Windows build you are using, it will still be there. Android is installed on the external storage card. You can switch back after running Android by doing a soft reset.
Actually you dont need to even soft reset (well not with the stylus anyway), just hold down the lower right button and it will ask you to power down? then it starts back up in WM
Some people are using it as their main operating system but I just 'Play' with it. As mentioned ring tones etc is not working yet.
Mayflix said:
As far as Android go and whether its worth installing really depends on what type of apps you need. The sound is still not working on the external speaker at the moment as well as some other functions. With your current Windows build you are using, it will still be there. Android is installed on the sim card. You can switch back after running Android by doing a soft reset.
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I think he actually means the external storage card. It doesn't hurt to try it out to see if it's something you'll like. You can always go back to WinMo by soft resetting your device.
if android worked as well on my touch pro 2 as well as it does on my touch pro, i would be using it as my daily driver. sound doesnt work, power management doesnt really work, but the apps are good and with sense its very pretty, and i feel i can jump in and play games and stuff without having to worry about not having a phone since it can still make calls are send texts. if the camera, sound, gps where working, and the battery could last for more than 2 hours, i would have no reason to go back into windows really. hopefully the touch pro 3 will be android or something. if just for getting sense on 2.1 in landscape.
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if the battery could last for more than 2 hours
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20+ hours standby with push email is WAY longer than 2 hours....
Besides, REAL tech flashing geeks wouldn't need to ask this question. Its a matter of trying it yourself, and coming to an educated conclusion on whether or not its worth it for YOU.
As started before it really comes down to teh apps you need. I been trying out android on my TP and besides the inaccurate battery meter its actually pretty good. I haven't made the ful switch over yet since I haven't found replacements to all my apps on WinMo but definitely found some good additions on android. Just tried it out for a while loading off the SD card and see how you like it.
Once they get TomTom on Android and that little app that transfers all sounds to your bluetooth headset in wm is when Android will become my prefered choice of OS. I like the idea of beeing able to "Dual Boot" back and forth from WM and Android. I would be completely OK with it if everything worked just using Haret.
As of right now personally I'm not satisfied with android on the tp2 as I was on the Kaiser but if they got that far on a 3+ year old device why not on the Tp2? I'm just hoping no one gives up on it.
starmena said:
Once they get TomTom on Android and that little app that transfers all sounds to your bluetooth headset in wm is when Android will become my prefered choice of OS. I like the idea of beeing able to "Dual Boot" back and forth from WM and Android. I would be completely OK with it if everything worked just using Haret.
As of right now personally I'm not satisfied with android on the tp2 as I was on the Kaiser but if they got that far on a 3+ year old device why not on the Tp2? I'm just hoping no one gives up on it.
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Tomtom!?? Screw tomtom! Google maps navigator!!!!
I've used tomtom since my early days using palm phones. I love the ap but google maps make it look obsolete. Once they get the GPS working on our phones I'll probably start using the android WAY way more.
Here are the apps I MUST HAVE to switch 100%
1. calendar exchange - need to know when to get to meetings
2. google market - after download and before install with 2.38gb free on storage and hundreds of mb free on device get not enough storage error. need this to install google voice for free calls.
3. way to get repeating reminders and sms alerts. need to get to meetings or know when I have to call in for something.
4. wireless router app.
5. evernote - haven't checked it prob an app for it.
6. quick upcoming appts view and weather conditions with wind and number of unread messages for each account on home page.
I can reboot for music if needed.
Thanks guys for all your comments.
I decided to run the AOSP 2.1 as I heard Sense UI version causes a few issues.
Everything looks pretty normal, only that unfortunately most of the apps I want to run are not found in the market. (I've heard that developers filter apps based on phone model, locale or features)
The big issue for me is battery life.
I can charge the phone no problem but it always stays at 62% and the battery drains very quickly.
Games-wise: I tried to install a "3D" if you can call it that game called 'Replica Island' and couldn't even run it as it was too laggy, didn't even get past the intro stage. All the other simpler games I have had no problem with. I also installed Scummvm with a plugin/game but don't know where it was saved to on the SD. Most likely that will lag too as it did even in WinMo.
My issues so far:
Cannot get Gen Y Dualboot to work, it just says that Android cannot be found. (When installing Android I used the .rar version not .cab)
Can't get sound to work via earphones. It says "(in call mic and earpiece work)" Does that mean it only works if someone calls me?
Overall user experience in Android is much better than WinMo. In Windows mobile, I have to click many times to get to wanted app or menu entry, while I usually clicks once or twice to get there.
One big thing for me is Google Voice integration. My folks uses phone card from Rebtel to call relatives overseas. Their fingers aren't usually fast enough for Rebtel to accept all digits. Google voice eliminated all the hassle and steps of using phone card. I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT!!
I really like it and wish they would fix the sound and 3d so that you can run games.... I use it for testing only for now.
No sound, still ?!? Not worth it as a phone device. A play device yes, thats about it. Winmo for me I get to all my apps and prog in just one or two clicks. Learn to use your quicklinks.
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I'm currently using an EnergyROM w/ Sense 2.5 on my Touch Pro 2 and am happy with everything so far, however my only let down with Windows Mobile is the types of applications made available for it.
I'm wondering whether it's worth me installing Android on my phone for the sake of having better quality applications and games?
Or is it still too early in development for something like that? I remember awhile back people were saying the sound wasn't working.
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Well, it's fun to play with for 10 minutes, but without working sound it's still pretty useless.
And I'm beginning to think the lack of sound problem will never be resolved
I'm beginning to think the lack of sound problem will never be resolved
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Don't lose faith. It takes time because the developers have to go through extensive testing to make sure the features will work properly.
They are most likely focusing on improving the battery life first before they finish porting the other features, because what good is it having sound when the battery drains within 30-60 minutes.
I thought the battery is fine, it's just the readings/meter that is inaccurate
Wish it's not running in software emulation mode too though..it's a bit "laggy" to my taste
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Don't lose faith. It takes time because the developers have to go through extensive testing to make sure the features will work properly.
They are most likely focusing on improving the battery life first before they finish porting the other features, because what good is it having sound when the battery drains within 30-60 minutes.
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20+ hours of standby with push email running is NOT 30-60 minutes. The battery IS fine, its just the meter that needs work. Charging even works now.
michaelra said:
I thought the battery is fine, it's just the readings/meter that is inaccurate
Wish it's not running in software emulation mode too though..it's a bit "laggy" to my taste
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Just FYI, it's not emulated, HaRET unloads Windows Mobile and then loads Linux (and eventually Android) like a bootloader. Like Loadlin, if you know what that was. The slowness results from a lack of hardware OpenGL coupled with the fact that the Rhodium is a WVGA device running on an underpowered MSM7xxx chipset. While that lag can be improved upon with proper GPU support and some performance optimizations (and even a little overclocking), this device will never be as fast running Android as the Nexus One, or the Hero, or most other native Android devices.
The touch pro 2 uses the same (or very similar) processor as the Hero, correct? I guess the big "problem" going forward for the TP2 is the higher resolution screen. Even if HW support for graphics rendering comes to fruition for Android on the TP2, the processor will likely be the "bottleneck" in regards to performance..
I tried cyanogenmod6, VaniljEclair RLS7c, polyrhythmic 2.1d, myn's warm donut, even the first froyo...
and I run into the same problems.
1. Some games/apps like Shoot U! Lite, Zenonia and AN3D Benchmark, appear with the graphics heavily distorted, like someone changed it to a diamond shape and scaled it to lengthen the aspect ratio. The app, however works, stuff move around when I touch the screen, but the screen remains distorted. (see the attachment)
2. Android is a tad faster than the windows mobile but I would like to make it even faster, any thoughts?
3a. If I call this phone and close immediately as I hear the beep ( sort of under one second ), the android phone either just vibrates and does nothing, either does nothing and doesn't display someone called. It seems that it needs about 1-2 seconds after the beep the caller hears in the phone, to display someone is calling.
3b. When in an app and when you get called, it shows a black screen, vibrates, and after some good 8-10 seconds, it displays the call screen.
4. How do I access the files on it? It won't mount when I connect it to the pc via usb.
5. When I connect it to a pc with windows 7, it randomly repeats the notification tone and displays I connected it via usb with a pc.
1 and 3a/3b are the most important...
Thanks.
1. can't help you with this
2. Try not to use widgets, as much as possible. I found my device to hang alot, especially with the flip clock widget. installing many programs may affect performance too. use only necessary stuff
try installing the latest kernel, this helps a little as well.
3. OK:
A). I have the same issue, but I think most people won't hang on you after two rings
B). Never had this problem. maybe the app you are using requires great amount of memory, and nothing is left for the phone app. I guest guessing though...
4. Best thing is to use memory card reader.. I tried alot to get ADB working on windows 7 with no luck, the drivers are not available. I read somewhere that if you use Ubuntu, things are much easier
I still don't know how to copy files to the system... I wish someone else could help with this.
5. Again, it's the drivers.. I find this notification tone very irritating.. I just put my device on vibrate, and call it even
3b. this happens to me also. you can answer with green button if you dont need to see who is calling. download taskiller to keep unused background stuff closed
4. if you reboot and hold down the dpad, you can select recovery mode and you will be able to connect to pc.
Well, the 5. seems to have gone away in the latest cyanogenmod builds.
On the 2. , the problem seems to be with multitasking , that's what stresses my kaiser. If I run one game, it goes well. If while I have the game launched, I try to switch to desktop or if someone calls me and launches the dialer, thing go slow.
Also for 5: go to Settings>Sound And Display> then un-check "SD Card notification"
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which rom are you using? NAND or SD haret.. if NAND change "panel" in your NBH with nbh editor (is somewhere in this forum, just use search)
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You can use Roguetools is overclocking CPU.. max set on 520MHz higher is dangerous for your phone. i think only one disadvantage of it is higher consumption and higher temperature but its not anything bad...
3a+b.
point 2 can help to you.
4.
On phone you can use Astro file manager.. it is on Market.. and through PC? you have 2 options.. first you can unplug SD Card and plug it to adapter and to pc.. or second - you can download FTP Server from Market, and you can connecting to it from your computer through ftp client..
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Its problem of Kaiser and Vogue.. now it dont working.. maybe later..
I wanna know any possibility to make my android faster too.
It goes really slow. If I do nothing, like switch between desktop. It's as smooth as even G1.
Once I run something.. and try to switch back to
Desktop. Or try to run calender(whatever build. Calender is slow in all of thm.)
I tried latest kernal. Yet still slow.
Is that possible to change cpu or add some more ram?
I really like keyboard with android.
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hitakeane said:
I wanna know any possibility to make my android faster too.
It goes really slow. If I do nothing, like switch between desktop. It's as smooth as even G1.
Once I run something.. and try to switch back to
Desktop. Or try to run calender(whatever build. Calender is slow in all of thm.)
I tried latest kernal. Yet still slow.
Is that possible to change cpu or add some more ram?
I really like keyboard with android.
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It's not possible to change the CPU or RAM, since these are not computers with changeable components, however there are a few things you can do to make things run a little smoother, cut down on the work the processor does by disabling a lot of the eye candy in settings/spare parts, use the 'keep launcher in memory' option, try swapper2, to set up a swap file or even swap partition, cut down on widgets, if you don't use it it will still take up memory and cpu cycles.
I have also noticed that 2.2 eats available memory for breakfast, even on my G1 it will start to get really slow after a while, and is often as low as 5-7Mb free ram, and I've noticed kaiser versions do much the same.
Lets face it, at 400MHz the kaiser is about the same as a stock G1, which is fine on donut, or eclair, but really struggles with froyo, and it has the advantage of a little extra memory and scalable clock.
The fastest setup I have found is nand flashed with Polymod 2.1D, or Myn's Warm Donut, every froyo build I have tried gets too slow, even on my G1.
Michga said:
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which rom are you using? NAND or SD haret.. if NAND change "panel" in your NBH with nbh editor (is somewhere in this forum, just use search)
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You can use Roguetools is overclocking CPU.. max set on 520MHz higher is dangerous for your phone. i think only one disadvantage of it is higher consumption and higher temperature but its not anything bad...
3a+b.
point 2 can help to you.
4.
On phone you can use Astro file manager.. it is on Market.. and through PC? you have 2 options.. first you can unplug SD Card and plug it to adapter and to pc.. or second - you can download FTP Server from Market, and you can connecting to it from your computer through ftp client..
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Its problem of Kaiser and Vogue.. now it dont working.. maybe later..
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I am using only SD, too chicken to try NAND yet... Maybe when I get a desire or galaxy S...
It seems on Froyo, It rings from the first beep, it launches almost all games, no more tearing and goes well. It's a bit slower than eclair, but hell, it's getting there alright!
So the remaining are 2, 3b, 4 and 5. I am glad I can play zanonia .
I am AMAZED by the power of this forum, I never thought android can run on a 3 year old phone that has absolutely no connection to android.
@hitakeane
Disable all animations and all transition efects, fades, etc.
Disable all wireless data connections
Enable 2g only
Use Launcher Pro with as less widgets and home screens as possible ( I use only 2 home screens)
Use Advanced Task Manager ( blue icon ) and close all.
Disable all synchronizations, data transfers, etc
Uninstall what you do not use.
Reboot OS
Wait till it's warming up (the os), it goes terrible when it's cold.
Use this froyo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715402
It's the fastest for me.
And just wait... It takes alot of hard work to optimize it. A few weeks ago, it didn't even have a camera And now, even youtube plays fluidly ( not on hq ). And the only problems are the performance, battery life and usb connectivity.
Good luck!
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The fastest setup I have found is nand flashed with Polymod 2.1D, or Myn's Warm Donut, every froyo build I have tried gets too slow, even on my G1.
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Hmm, I've been running Incubus26Jc's Froyo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310) for some time now, and for me it's equally fast as the 2.1 VaniljEclair I ran before. You might want to try that one, I'm pretty satisfied. Still not as fast as a phone should work though, but it's better than WiMo.
How does it run after installing a few games and apps and you start putting some widgets?
What radio version do you have? Super froyo lags alot on my kaiser...
I'm using radio 1.71.09.01 if I remember correctly. I don't have a lot of applications installed on Android indeed, nor do I have any games. So maybe it'll get slower if I install more stuff, but so far so good for me.
I had 1.71 and I had some problems with it.
1.65.21.18 is what I use now, and It's better imho: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2210513&postcount=3
But be careful, they say radio is dependent on your location and network .
I know exactly what number 1 is. I've been experimenting and I found out some games don't support QVGA (240×320) and they show up distorted like that. So I tried 320×420 and 320×480 AND they show up normal. So basically the app you got wasn't compatible with QVGA resolution.
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Maybe that's the problem, however, even if froyo isn't still quite optimized for my kaiser, yet, all the games I had a problem with, now run like a charm in froyo.
One more update, do you know why I can't get more than 11 mb of ram free when I close all apps? Maybe that's why it runs so slow...
I have a Kaiser 130 and i have a display issue i tried changing 3-4 androids - 2.2 Froyo, 2.1 Enclair but nothing changed ... My screen still looks like crap
PLEASE HELP ME
Way to necropost?
Could you help me ,please or not?
If you create a thread with more description of your problem then yes. Include what kernel you are using, what panel type, any other pertinent settings and what build. Also does the screen work fine in WM. Those are good details to include rather then going to a almost 6 month old thread and saying I have this issue to!
Hi guys!
I wanted to share a quite annoying thing I've noticed since installing the new stock gingerbread.
In short: my phone cannot be turned off. In addition it took me about a week to find it out properly, because it acts like switching off. There are two strange things: 1. it seems quite fast when switching on (it is actually, but it is more like returning from sg. like sllep/stand-by mode), 2. my battery was drained during the nights.
Now I have to enter boot menu, and select power off there.
I tried to search forums (this one and from other sites as well) but I couldn't find anybody else who experienced the same. So be aware of this new software, particularly because your phone cannot be downgraded or rooted yet (I hope someone finds a solution for this too).
Any ideas?
Thanks.
I think it's to do with Fast boot. You could turn it off and try.
Settings/ Applications and it's at the bottom.
Thanks a lot, I tried and it solved my problem immediately.
Actually it is quite embarassing, because it was only one single click. I couldn't remember of this fast boot option from FroYo, now my phone is usable again.
Thank once more!
Lol, that's the fastboot feature, which can be turned off.
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Hi I bought my GNex in January and lately it's been having more and more issues.
Here's a list of what happens so far:
1) Low battery life - about 6-8 hrs with minimal use
2) Low 3G and 4G signal - usually 1 or 2 bars
3) Camera sometimes becomes unresponsive requiring a reboot to start up again
4) Sometimes the phone will be unresponsive in lock screen requiring to reboot by removing battery
5) A lot of apps become unresponsive or crash - happens daily with 10+ different apps
6) Sometimes my soft key buttons (back, home, windows) buttons will disappear and not come back (happened while using GoSMS)
Verizon told me that the new update will be coming out this month. Do you think it will resolve all of these issues? I'm hesitating with getting a refurbished phone. Has anyone had any issues with refurbished ones? Thank you to all who reply.
1) Low battery life - about 6-8 hrs with minimal use
This is pretty much the only downside I see with the Nexus. It's a great phone, but the battery life is terrible.
2) Low 3G and 4G signal - usually 1 or 2 bars
I'm running the 4.0.4 radios, which have a (cosmetic) fix for this. 3G data always seemed to work fine for me with only 1 bar, though.
3) Camera sometimes becomes unresponsive requiring a reboot to start up again
This happened to me a few times with the stock ROM. The current ROM I'm running (GummyNex, compiled from source) is based off of Android 4.0.3 and has never done this.
4) Sometimes the phone will be unresponsive in lock screen requiring to reboot by removing battery
See previous answer.
5) A lot of apps become unresponsive or crash - happens daily with 10+ different apps
Probably the apps' fault.
6) Sometimes my soft key buttons (back, home, windows) buttons will disappear and not come back (happened while using GoSMS)
This has happened, but it seems like if you just rotate 90 degrees one way and then back, you can usually get them to come back.
So...to answer your question, even Android 4.0.3 is a decent improvement over 4.0.2 in terms of stability. The forthcoming update is Android 4.0.4, IIRC. There's no point in getting a refurbished phone right now, since you'd still be running stock 4.0.2.
Everything you mentioned can be fixed with a custom rom, kernel, and baseband/radio flash.
If you don't want to do that than.... Yes return the phone.
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question, nahingp
1)
You should look around for apps telling you what causes this battery drain. You might have installed apps preventing your phone from going to propper sleep
2)
I guess this depends on where you live and move. Is your network also this slow?
3)
Now this is a reason to give back the phone! It seems to me like it is a guarantee issue!
4)
See previous answer (I am not a friend of custom roms and flashing )
5)
Could you name one or two of them?
6)
Maybe after all you first should try to do a reset sounds a little bit like a software error...