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Does anybody have experience of Navman GPS software on the XDA II. I loaded the newest operating system as per instructions and then loaded the software. Now whenever the software is run, the whole phone runs at about a 1/50th of the speed.
Any suggestions as desperate. :?

spottrader said:
Does anybody have experience of Navman GPS software on the XDA II. I loaded the newest operating system as per instructions and then loaded the software. Now whenever the software is run, the whole phone runs at about a 1/50th of the speed.
Any suggestions as desperate. :?
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Turn off incomming beams in control panel and try again!
Let us know how that goes? 8)

Thanks.
I tried turning off all beams but to no avail. Still painfully slow

What SD Card have you got the maps on? Make, Size etc

i have a SanDisk 1Gb SD card. Made in china

I was struggling setting up my Navman 4100 and also experienced a major reduction in the speed of the mapping software. It turned out I had the wrong com port setting in the GPS Status screen. I had no idea which com port it should've been until I followed the instructions here http://www.navman-europe.com/support.php?id=AA005410&faq=56
The EnableCharPin hack finally allowed my gadgets to talk to each other properly, thereby informing me of the correct com port to use.
Stick with it Spottrader, it's a pain to set up, but I can vouch for the fact that driving around being guided by 5 satellites is probably the coolest thing you'll ever do on a mobile phone ! 8)
(By the way, my incoming beams box IS ticked.)

Same thing here
Installed tomtom on my xda, an ipaq and a mitac mio. Same thing happened till I changed the gps over to tomtom gps on sp2.
All work fine, (even the bluetooth one on the ipaq)
Go figure.

MDA Compact III - GPS setting..

Hello all
I have just purchased the MDA Compact III and will now load up some Tomtom 6 maps via the MicroSD card (which is being delivered as yet)..
My question is, before when starting tomtom (on other devices), it used to ask me if i wanted to switch on the bluetooth so that it could detect device (receiver)..How would it work now wit the built in receiver?? Would it just detect automatically?
Also, i don't understand the quickgps icon. Do i have to use it or is it only for a faster connection to a satellite?
Sorry if these are dumb questions - but the manuals are rubbish!
Thanks in advance

GPS type is configurable manually in TomTom. In your case built-in GPS is pre-set, so no need to do anything. Just open TT and go...
Quickgps is an option to enable you to download the actual positions of satellites as an input for TT. This is not a must, but you may try to examine yourself whether it makes your gps-fix faster or not...

Thanks for the reponse..
Is the quick GPS chargeable? i.e is there a cost involved downloading?
Thanks

Only the Cost for the internet Service, since Quick GPS downloads Satelite Data from the Internet.

Startt Quick GPS then go to menu/ Options In here set it to remind you when the data expires, and Autodownload when connected to a PC via Active Sync, if you want to avoid GPRS charges make sure Autodownload when data expires is NOT checked.
Set-up as above if you dock your PDA each night to charge it and let Active Sync run the program will auto update, if you are mobile and the data runs out you get the warning and can select to download an update or simply ignore it.
If you have Web and Walk (T-Mobile) then the GPRS charges are not an issue - Mike

Hehe Thank you
Haven't tried that, i felt bugged by the constant message of Quick GPS, that my Data expired...Now that is soved

Hi,
I am new to this forum and have recletly purchased a T-Mobile MDA Compact III, My friend has installed the TOMTOM 6 software but for some reason i cant pick up a gps signal.
I have down loaded the "quick GPS" but still not joy.
i have gone to start and setting on on my MC3 and made sure that the com port is 4.
also made sure i have set the it to pick up the internal receiver i,e the built in GPS. not sure what i am doing wrong
please help, ant advise or can you point me in the right direction
Kind regards
Azhar03
MDC 3 WITH TOMTOM 6

azhar, you will get told off for posting the same question twice!! - please see your other post for my response which can be found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283663 - Mike

Dash W/ Google Maps and Bluetooth GPS reciever?

I have a T-mobile Dash and i installed the new Google maps software for smartphones. and picked up a Cellink BTG-7000 bluetooth gps reciever.
I can't get google maps to detect the bluetooth gps
i paired the device and created a outgoing com port to the gps ( says BTG-7000 (com 7)
- ive tried un checking secure connection
- also created an incoming port but does not have gps reciever name in connection...
the google maps software says i have to goto the start - settings - GPS
but i do not have such an option.
Anyone have any ideas?
dave

Hmmm, I am not sure either. I just tried to get it to recognise my bluetooth gps device. Surely someone knows what is going on.

Same issue here
I am having the same issue with my Dash/Bluetooth GPS with Google Maps. There is a FAQ (http://www.google.com/gmm/gmmfaq.html?platform=winm-SmartPhone-T-Mobile+Dash/web#4) that refers to a "Settings->System->GPS" control panel applet that does not exist.

I have the same problem. I think the issue has to do with the initialization of the BT GPS unit and have WM see it first (as GPS) rather than as a BT device that it has paired with. The GPS applet would take care of it by sending it cold boot parameters etc.
Alternatively, you can download a smartphone version of the applet from the GPS manufacturer and run that before running Google Maps. I am not sure but it might fix the problem.
Edit: I wonder if the HTC S620 Variant has the GPS applet in its ROM? If it does, perhaps someone can extract the cab file and share it with the community. That might fix our GPS woes...

I'm running the s620 ROM. There is no GPS applet that I see...

there is no gps

Darn..that sucks.

the settings they tell you to go look at only exist in the PPC version.

Was able to use a BT GPS device to work with Windows LIVE search ( Google Mobile Maps rival )
If GMM can be forced to use a particular comm port it should also work .. anyone ?
HTC S620 phone BTW.

Figured it out !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293018

Umm, same thing I wrote in the other thread:
Folks, is there a reason you guys are so desperate to use GMM? Especially knowing your GPS doesn't work natively without hacks?
Just use Windows Live Search Mobile? IMO, LIGHT YEARS ahead of GMM in terms of usability and fit and finish. AND it'll find your GPS both on GPSID (what GMM uses) as well as COM ports. No hacks. Simple. Straightforward. Elegant.
http://wls.live.com from your mobile phone. Click the Windows Mobile client.

I've played with both and I've found GMM to be much more one handable. Now when I say that I know WLS is one handable but things go slow. You can do things quick with GMM one handed.
Also GMM adds a features that WLS doesn't. One example is that if you go to a contact in your contact list it gives you the option to 'Locate on Google Maps' and it will use the address in the contact information to locate the contact on Google Maps. And I might be wrong but isn't Microsofts Satelite (Not Road Map) imagery older then googles?

GMM cleaner and smaller but lacking big feature
GMM also seems to use much less memory. Great footprint compared to WLS which slows the whole phone down. When I turn off WLS I also have to restart most of the time because the phone can't recoop some of that memory. The one thing I don't like about GMM is that when using the directions feature with GPS, you can only look at your route, or follow your track - not both at the same time like WLS. (IE right before every turn you get a popup with which way to go.) It's much more manual with GMM.

Can GPS get a silent fix?

When I get in the car and turn on bluetooth, a script starts to run in conjuction with my car stereo for handsfree and audio etc.
I would like to add a command to the script that switches on GPS straight away and gets a fix in the background so that if I get lost or stuck in traffic I can run TomTom and the fix will have already been established thus enabling me to navigate to where I need to be more efficiently?
Is there such a way of doing this?

the simplest idea I have is to run a 3rd party app such as gpsgate when your script runs.

debully,
I did think about using a 3rd party app but wondered if the trinity is capable of getting a fix just by enabling GPS and not running any other app?
The problem is that using A2DP is quite CPU greedy. Running another app will just add to it. Incidently, I've read posts where people are quoting percentages of CPU used by certain programs, how is this done?

interested as well
Let me know if you get a way to do this... I would be interested as well.
;-)
-Daniel

If you'd like to have a GPS fix all the time (even when you push the power button for 'stand by') you will have to modify the radio rom..
But for in-windows usage you could install a program with a virtual COM port that redirects the GPS data.. (so, when your batch file is ran this program will open and connect to the GPS port.. it wil create another COM port and when tomtom connects it will have a fix instantly)

I use gpsgate, not only does it give me a fix all the time when I set it to run on softreset, it can send your position to googlemaps so people can track you if you want and other nifty stuff.
Floriz said:
If you'd like to have a GPS fix all the time (even when you push the power button for 'stand by') you will have to modify the radio rom..
But for in-windows usage you could install a program with a virtual COM port that redirects the GPS data.. (so, when your batch file is ran this program will open and connect to the GPS port.. it wil create another COM port and when tomtom connects it will have a fix instantly)
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I downloaded a little app called ODGPS (900KB cab file and free) It took a while playing around with the settings to get a fix but once the fix was there I opened TomTom and it knew where I was almost instantly.
I stumbled across a website yesterday with links to other sites of free gps software. http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html (where I found ODGPS)
My plan is to test a number of programs from here to establish a) how much memory they use and b) how quick they get a fix.
Once I have found a small enough app with a fairly quick fix I shall implement it into my script. Now if someone could just tell me how I monitor the CPU usuage of each app?

mcq3000
How memory hungry is gpsgate?

neomagik said:
I downloaded a little app called ODGPS (900KB cab file and free) It took a while playing around with the settings to get a fix but once the fix was there I opened TomTom and it knew where I was almost instantly.
I stumbled across a website yesterday with links to other sites of free gps software. http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html (where I found ODGPS)
My plan is to test a number of programs from here to establish a) how much memory they use and b) how quick they get a fix.
Once I have found a small enough app with a fairly quick fix I shall implement it into my script. Now if someone could just tell me how I monitor the CPU usuage of each app?
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you can use "BatteryStatus", very small today-plugin that shows you the energiedrain... more cpu = more energiedrain

I'm getting closer to having this working:-
ODGPS is not ideal because it seems to freeze the phone after a while. It also makes a funny tapping noise every 2 or 3 minutes and for some reason and I can't disable it.
I'm now experimenting with NoniGPSPlot, a very small program that runs easily in the background. You can save a track of your journey too and view it on google earth.
Once it's established a fix, TomTom will fix almost instantly.
I've integrated it into my script so that it opens and minimizes as soon as I switch to 'car' profile. My phone then detects my stereo and connects to it for handsfree profile, then for wireless stereo.
What would be cool is if I can get it to display a message telling me that a fix has been established and likewise when the fix is lost. The trouble is I can't find what registry change takes place once it has a fix.

neomagik said:
I'm getting closer to having this working:-
ODGPS is not ideal because it seems to freeze the phone after a while. It also makes a funny tapping noise every 2 or 3 minutes and for some reason and I can't disable it.
I'm now experimenting with NoniGPSPlot, a very small program that runs easily in the background. You can save a track of your journey too and view it on google earth.
Once it's established a fix, TomTom will fix almost instantly.
I've integrated it into my script so that it opens and minimizes as soon as I switch to 'car' profile. My phone then detects my stereo and connects to it for handsfree profile, then for wireless stereo.
What would be cool is if I can get it to display a message telling me that a fix has been established and likewise when the fix is lost. The trouble is I can't find what registry change takes place once it has a fix.
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Wow this sounds great !!! I have just bought an A2DP capable car radio and I would love to being able to do exactly this. Can you share your script when its finished??
Kind regards

neomagik said:
I've read posts where people are quoting percentages of CPU used by certain programs, how is this done?
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Task Manager
availible here: http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_phorum&Itemid=125&phorum_query=read,27,15027

@ rdkay>
Which stereo do you have? The script I have written is specifically for the Pioneer DEH P75BT

I've just used ssnap to create 2 snapshots of my registry, the 1st with a gps fix, and the 2nd without. When comparing the files using ExamDiff there is no obvious change that takes place.
Does anybody know of a GPS program that creates or changes registry entries once a fix is established?

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@ rdkay>
Which stereo do you have? The script I have written is specifically for the Pioneer DEH P75BT
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slightly off topic - apologies -
how do you find the DEHP75BT at registering and automatically recognising your phone?
I have a DEHP55BT (think it was the first BT radio available for under £200) and had loads of trouble with registration (had to use 'connect
wait') and unless I manually switch on BT on phone (mUn's WM6 SE) or manually tell the pioneer to connect nothing happens.
Also, when callers call me I cannot hear their voices through the speakers, but it's ok when I call them - do you have this problem?

neomagik said:
I've just used ssnap to create 2 snapshots of my registry, the 1st with a gps fix, and the 2nd without. When comparing the files using ExamDiff there is no obvious change that takes place.
Does anybody know of a GPS program that creates or changes registry entries once a fix is established?
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GPSGate changes the colour of its icon that resides in the system tray (red -no gps data, yellow - gps data but no fix, Green - Fixed). Not sure if this is controlled by a registry setting but may be worth a look. GPSGate also lets you use more than one GPS app at once and allows you to delegate COM ports for output.

@ debully>
There is a very simple fix to enable the Pioneer to recognise and connect to your phone. You see the Pioneer is searching for a phone or a Smartphone, the Trinity identifies itself as a PPC and so the Pioneer ignores it.
The Class of Device or CoD must be changed so that the Trinity identifies itself as either a phone or Smartphone.
If you change the Dword Data value in.... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD"
to 5374476 (decimal) and set bluetooth to discoverable in your Trin, you should find that it connects automatically.
It took me 8 months to find this out.
PS. I don't have the problem with not hearing the callers.

@neomagic
wow - thanks dude. Your a star!

To understand what you are dealing with in getting a "fix" you need to understand how the system works. When started for the first time in 2 hours (or whatever it's been programmed for) the gps does a cold start and needs to download almanac data from the sat's in order to determine their trajectories which is needed to calculate a fix. Once that data has been pulled, it's valid for a certain amount of time (about 2 hours if I'm remembering correctly). So, although no registry keys are going to change, the easy way to deal with this is to keep your own timestamp, and make sure to ping the gps with a fix request every 2 hours or so in order to keep it ready for a warm/quick start...

@ Shadowmite>
Thanks for the info, I've read similar information about cold/warm starts. A couple of questions though...
1) I can deal with the timestamp but how do I "ping" the gps with a fix request?
2) If I do ping a request every 2 hours and I'm indoors and can't get a fix, will it go back to needing a cold start?

Garmin XT and Touch Pro2 Problem

My Garmin XT doesn't able to connect to COM4. It just automatically changed to intermediate driver. The intermediate driver works, means, it can get a fix, but the data are incorrect. It misses about 500m from where am I now. also the elevation seems not correct, it shows -78m, where with visual gpsce, i get 21m.
Oh, one more, with intermediate driver, it seems get a lock for a second, and lose on next second.
Anybody experiencing the same issues?
btw, on my TyTN II, it works fine.

you need to tweak it, the thread is around here somewhere, sorry am using my phone, a bit hard to search and copy paste

Do you mean tweaking the registry? I tried it, but doesn't change a thing..
So basically, I get accurate data with visual gpsce, but not with garmin.

Did you downloaded the latest version of Mobile XT?

yes I did. It's 5.00.20wp

i am using a similar version of garmin mobile xt with no issues on the touchpro2

Are you able to connect directly to com4?
mine only able to connect via intermediate driver.

Is it possible to connect directly to com4 at all? I always assumed that whatever you do, when selecting the com port, it still goes through the driver?

I have no problem using Mobile XT (same version as you). Position is quite accurate (maybe just 20m off). And I'm using the standard settings for the PPC version.

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Is it possible to connect directly to com4 at all? I always assumed that whatever you do, when selecting the com port, it still goes through the driver?
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Yes, that's true. Also check your current elevation. Is the data correct? mine always shows negative value. (I'm +- 20m above sea level)

Does Garmin works smoothly for you? Mine seems to lag by 1-2 seconds like on TomTom. Works smoothly on iGo 8.
I did do the registry hacks but still no luck. Any other suggestions?

bumping an old thread because i have the same problem, garmin is GOOD, but lags a second or two behind, causing me to miss my exits. i've done the registry tweaks but to no avail... anybody? i've also read about gpsgate and the gps driver on the site, can anyone confirm them working?
heres an example: (not my video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ2gQx48Zng
watch 0:54-1:00
you see that the person passes under the overpass at 56, but it doesnt register on the garmin mobile until 58.
HOW CAN I ELIMINATE THAT LAG?!

bump :*( nobody has any problems with garmin?