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Seiko Smartpad and XDA

Has anybody managed to get the smartpad 2E working with xda? wwwsiibusinessproducts.com

i got it working with the xda2 with out a problem

I have a Seiko InkLink, which works fine with the PCA over USB, but I can't get the infra-red clip-on to work with the XDA2.
I've gone to connections and made sure that "Receive Incoming Beams" was checked, and I've fooled around with changing the COM ports (which one is it supposed to be?), but aside from that, can't think what else to do. Anyone any ideas?

Oh, and another thing.
When I run the InkLink software, the XDA soft-resets itself after a few minutes. If I don't run the InkLink software, it runs fine, so I strongly suspect the software isn't quite right.
This is all on the XDA2. I haven't tried with XDA1. Maybe its a WM2003 thing?

i have the same problem. it works with the desktop but not the xda2.
The ir lights up on the device that clips to the top of the A4pad and the light changes speed when I write but nothing appears on the XDA2 screen. I have tried running the test program but I get a message stating the IR port (i assume it means the XDA2 port) is being used by another program but I dont have anything else running in the background.
receive beam is turned on - i have tried it both on and off. My XDA2 has reset itself a couple of times since installing the software - so i have given up and removed it.
i wonder if there is another program installed that is effecting things.
any clues ?

There is something screwy about the irda on the xda1 and the xda2, if you install tomtom2 on the ipaq and look for the ports available, you see the com ports and also generic infrared port, I have an infrared adaptor which allows me to use gps on ipaq 1910 which doesnt have a serial port, however trying to do the same with xda, all thats offered is infrared port, choose that and the machine locks. I wonder if other pda's besides xda1 and 2 allocate the irda to a virtual port. I have asked about this numerous times here on the forum and scoured the web but to no avail.

After various teething problems, it now works flawlessly on my XDA2, and I'm really very impressed.
I've no idea why InkLink was resetting my machine, but I think maybe it was because I had the wrong port selected and it was just picking up rubbish from an unconnected port. Still shouldn't crash, but anyway, it works if you connect to the right port.
Also, I think the batteries they supply with it only last 5 minutes. Having replaced them, my troubles seem to be over.
Only fault is the general hassle factor of the IR clip. If there was a bluetooth version, it would be so much better (provided the bluetooth worked!)

onepieceman said:
After various teething problems, it now works flawlessly on my XDA2, and I'm really very impressed.
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I'm dying to know how you made it work?

I don't think I did anything specific.
I think the most likely thing was I finally selected the correct COM port. You need to select COM1, and this won't be available if you have something else using that port (such as the "receive beams" application, but maybe you have something else). Just to confirm, "receive beams" must be OFF!
Also, make sure your batteries are OK.
I suggest you get it working first with the InkLink connected via USB to your PC. If that works, then you can be sure that the pen and the InkLink clip work OK. That will then leave the IrDA transmitter, its battery, and the PocketPC hardware/software/config as sources of potential trouble. I can vouch for the software working on an XDA2, so that should just leave the IrDA transmitter and its battery.
Oh, just forgot, I did download the latest version of InkLink from the Seiko site. My version is 3.3, while it came supplied with 3.2. Don't know if it makes a difference, but worth a try. Also, make sure you select InkLink as your hardware. I believe it defaults to SmartPad.
Can't think of anything else you need to do. You certainly don't need to do anything weird.

Bluetooth Upgrade and Bluetooth GPS

I don't know if anyone has noticed... but the new ROM version (1.72 + radio 14) has actually improved concerning serial bluetooth connections -- especially on my BT GPS.
Now when I bond with it, it asks me if I want to use the serial profile. I say yes, and it uses COM 5 for my BT GPS. All works fine. No need to use the Blueooth tools software that was needed before.
So this is actually an improvement, but hard to notice unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
Works like a charm......

I have not tried it with BT GPS, but looking at what everyone else went through with their Headsets and bonding issues, I can defintiely attest to the fact that the new BT Stack on 1.72WWE works great! I have never had to re-pair my Jabra BT 250 since I paired it the first time two weeks ago. I have also been able to ActiveSync over BT without any problems.

Lucky u guys, when i did the update, i cant active sync through BT

first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.

sheran_g,
Thaks alot, all i was missing was to do the active sync profile, your document helped me.
Thaks again

(some) GPS problems with 1.72 (and 1.66)
Victor said:
I don't know if anyone has noticed... but the new ROM version (1.72 + radio 14) has actually improved concerning serial bluetooth connections -- especially on my BT GPS.
Now when I bond with it, it asks me if I want to use the serial profile. I say yes, and it uses COM 5 for my BT GPS. All works fine. No need to use the Blueooth tools software that was needed before.
So this is actually an improvement, but hard to notice unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
Works like a charm......
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I have noticed the added WM function for BT GPS on COM5 (already with 1.66), however 'since' 1.66 I can not get my BT GPS to work with Alturion.
The strange things are:
- At first it still worked with 1.66 but a week after it failed and Alturion and I can not get it working since (incl. 1.72 upgrade).
- if I start Alturion the blue GPS LED starts flashing fast (green LED indicates satelite lock) which suggests BT connection, but still it says "NO GPS FOUND" all the time!
- With TT3 the GPS is working ok (with BT and serial profiles)
I dare not to hope, but if anybody has an idea please let me know. I prefer not to downgrade to 1.60 since I see many issues with this downgrade on this forum.
Victor said:
..... I say yes .....
.... unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
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I can not remember that NO was an option. Do you mean this with the old fashion way???
Ronald

Hi guys
I'm guessing that the 1.7 upgrade is not avalable in Australia??? I cannot find it on the MyXDA website for download? is this update that you are talking about not for Australia/Asia?
Cheers...

sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley

smiley_thing69 said:
sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley
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You might need to download Adobe Acrobat Reader in order to view the file. You can find the Acrobat Reader here.

dont try dow view the file in IE
Download it first and THEN view it
This works for me

smiley_thing69 said:
sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley
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With gozilla I can also not download the pdf, but with "save target as" it works.
@sheran_g
BTW Thanx for the post

Re: (some) GPS problems with 1.72 (and 1.66)
ronald2oo2 said:
I have noticed the added WM function for BT GPS on COM5 (already with 1.66), however 'since' 1.66 I can not get my BT GPS to work with Alturion.
The strange things are:
- At first it still worked with 1.66 but a week after it failed and Alturion and I can not get it working since (incl. 1.72 upgrade).
- if I start Alturion the blue GPS LED starts flashing fast (green LED indicates satelite lock) which suggests BT connection, but still it says "NO GPS FOUND" all the time!
- With TT3 the GPS is working ok (with BT and serial profiles)
I dare not to hope, but if anybody has an idea please let me know. I prefer not to downgrade to 1.60 since I see many issues with this downgrade on this forum.
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Are you sure this isn't TomTom's GPS Driver causing this? TT's GPS Drivers since v2.08 have locked the BT Com Port for exclusive access by TomTom and this prevents other apps from accessing a BT GPS. Solutions are either install v2.07 which was the last driver that did not do this or remove 'the Tomtom~GPS' entry which is the culprit, removing this removes the BT Com Port lock but does not affect the use of TomTom.

@ griffog
Actually I use TomTom ~GPS 3.03 which does not have this problem anymore! Anyhow I still (temporarely) remove the TomTom ~GPS driver and soft-reset when I test with Alturion.
But thanx for the tip.
BTW it does effect the use of TomTom for me! I guess you have a serial (non BT) GPS !?
Ronald

No I use BT GPS unit's exclusively. I'll have to investigate this as I have not heard that v3.03 no longer has this problem!

@griffog
I have this information from the Dutch PocketPC-club TT forum.
It is also consistent with what I see since the TT3.03 upgrade, even while my other GPS application (Alturion) is not working. If I run TT GPS and close it and then start Alturion the Blue LED of the GPS starts flashing fast (sadly I still get "no GPS found" however).
Ronald
:wink: remember you heard it first from me, the Premier GPS Resource :wink:

Excellent news! I've just loaded it up to test and you were right It's such good news that I've posted a front page news item, thanks

Indeed it was very good news.... but therefor also more disappointing for me that I don't get Alturion -my second GPS application- to work (on the eve of my holidays).
If you also use Alturion 5.3.1.4 (you seem in to GPS), can you share your configuration with me?
OS (1.66+?)?, BTHTools or WM serial BT profile? GPS? GPS config in Alturion? and anything else you might consider important.
I really need some new straws to grasp because I have no more ideas about what to try.
Ronald

Sadly Alturion hasn't made it across the channel. I'ce contacted them on numerous occasions for a review copy but never received a reply.

Another cool fix is the fact that you can now be connected through Activesinc using the cradle and at the same time now you can receive MMSs without a problem.
Before the 1.72 upgrade, you just couln't do that. :wink:

NAVMAN's crap software

Does anybody have experience of Navman GPS software on the XDA II. I loaded the newest operating system as per instructions and then loaded the software. Now whenever the software is run, the whole phone runs at about a 1/50th of the speed.
Any suggestions as desperate. :?

spottrader said:
Does anybody have experience of Navman GPS software on the XDA II. I loaded the newest operating system as per instructions and then loaded the software. Now whenever the software is run, the whole phone runs at about a 1/50th of the speed.
Any suggestions as desperate. :?
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Turn off incomming beams in control panel and try again!
Let us know how that goes? 8)

Thanks.
I tried turning off all beams but to no avail. Still painfully slow

What SD Card have you got the maps on? Make, Size etc

i have a SanDisk 1Gb SD card. Made in china

I was struggling setting up my Navman 4100 and also experienced a major reduction in the speed of the mapping software. It turned out I had the wrong com port setting in the GPS Status screen. I had no idea which com port it should've been until I followed the instructions here http://www.navman-europe.com/support.php?id=AA005410&faq=56
The EnableCharPin hack finally allowed my gadgets to talk to each other properly, thereby informing me of the correct com port to use.
Stick with it Spottrader, it's a pain to set up, but I can vouch for the fact that driving around being guided by 5 satellites is probably the coolest thing you'll ever do on a mobile phone ! 8)
(By the way, my incoming beams box IS ticked.)

Same thing here
Installed tomtom on my xda, an ipaq and a mitac mio. Same thing happened till I changed the gps over to tomtom gps on sp2.
All work fine, (even the bluetooth one on the ipaq)
Go figure.

Can GPS get a silent fix?

When I get in the car and turn on bluetooth, a script starts to run in conjuction with my car stereo for handsfree and audio etc.
I would like to add a command to the script that switches on GPS straight away and gets a fix in the background so that if I get lost or stuck in traffic I can run TomTom and the fix will have already been established thus enabling me to navigate to where I need to be more efficiently?
Is there such a way of doing this?

the simplest idea I have is to run a 3rd party app such as gpsgate when your script runs.

debully,
I did think about using a 3rd party app but wondered if the trinity is capable of getting a fix just by enabling GPS and not running any other app?
The problem is that using A2DP is quite CPU greedy. Running another app will just add to it. Incidently, I've read posts where people are quoting percentages of CPU used by certain programs, how is this done?

interested as well
Let me know if you get a way to do this... I would be interested as well.
;-)
-Daniel

If you'd like to have a GPS fix all the time (even when you push the power button for 'stand by') you will have to modify the radio rom..
But for in-windows usage you could install a program with a virtual COM port that redirects the GPS data.. (so, when your batch file is ran this program will open and connect to the GPS port.. it wil create another COM port and when tomtom connects it will have a fix instantly)

I use gpsgate, not only does it give me a fix all the time when I set it to run on softreset, it can send your position to googlemaps so people can track you if you want and other nifty stuff.
Floriz said:
If you'd like to have a GPS fix all the time (even when you push the power button for 'stand by') you will have to modify the radio rom..
But for in-windows usage you could install a program with a virtual COM port that redirects the GPS data.. (so, when your batch file is ran this program will open and connect to the GPS port.. it wil create another COM port and when tomtom connects it will have a fix instantly)
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I downloaded a little app called ODGPS (900KB cab file and free) It took a while playing around with the settings to get a fix but once the fix was there I opened TomTom and it knew where I was almost instantly.
I stumbled across a website yesterday with links to other sites of free gps software. http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html (where I found ODGPS)
My plan is to test a number of programs from here to establish a) how much memory they use and b) how quick they get a fix.
Once I have found a small enough app with a fairly quick fix I shall implement it into my script. Now if someone could just tell me how I monitor the CPU usuage of each app?

mcq3000
How memory hungry is gpsgate?

neomagik said:
I downloaded a little app called ODGPS (900KB cab file and free) It took a while playing around with the settings to get a fix but once the fix was there I opened TomTom and it knew where I was almost instantly.
I stumbled across a website yesterday with links to other sites of free gps software. http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html (where I found ODGPS)
My plan is to test a number of programs from here to establish a) how much memory they use and b) how quick they get a fix.
Once I have found a small enough app with a fairly quick fix I shall implement it into my script. Now if someone could just tell me how I monitor the CPU usuage of each app?
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you can use "BatteryStatus", very small today-plugin that shows you the energiedrain... more cpu = more energiedrain

I'm getting closer to having this working:-
ODGPS is not ideal because it seems to freeze the phone after a while. It also makes a funny tapping noise every 2 or 3 minutes and for some reason and I can't disable it.
I'm now experimenting with NoniGPSPlot, a very small program that runs easily in the background. You can save a track of your journey too and view it on google earth.
Once it's established a fix, TomTom will fix almost instantly.
I've integrated it into my script so that it opens and minimizes as soon as I switch to 'car' profile. My phone then detects my stereo and connects to it for handsfree profile, then for wireless stereo.
What would be cool is if I can get it to display a message telling me that a fix has been established and likewise when the fix is lost. The trouble is I can't find what registry change takes place once it has a fix.

neomagik said:
I'm getting closer to having this working:-
ODGPS is not ideal because it seems to freeze the phone after a while. It also makes a funny tapping noise every 2 or 3 minutes and for some reason and I can't disable it.
I'm now experimenting with NoniGPSPlot, a very small program that runs easily in the background. You can save a track of your journey too and view it on google earth.
Once it's established a fix, TomTom will fix almost instantly.
I've integrated it into my script so that it opens and minimizes as soon as I switch to 'car' profile. My phone then detects my stereo and connects to it for handsfree profile, then for wireless stereo.
What would be cool is if I can get it to display a message telling me that a fix has been established and likewise when the fix is lost. The trouble is I can't find what registry change takes place once it has a fix.
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Wow this sounds great !!! I have just bought an A2DP capable car radio and I would love to being able to do exactly this. Can you share your script when its finished??
Kind regards

neomagik said:
I've read posts where people are quoting percentages of CPU used by certain programs, how is this done?
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Task Manager
availible here: http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_phorum&Itemid=125&phorum_query=read,27,15027

@ rdkay>
Which stereo do you have? The script I have written is specifically for the Pioneer DEH P75BT

I've just used ssnap to create 2 snapshots of my registry, the 1st with a gps fix, and the 2nd without. When comparing the files using ExamDiff there is no obvious change that takes place.
Does anybody know of a GPS program that creates or changes registry entries once a fix is established?

neomagik said:
@ rdkay>
Which stereo do you have? The script I have written is specifically for the Pioneer DEH P75BT
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slightly off topic - apologies -
how do you find the DEHP75BT at registering and automatically recognising your phone?
I have a DEHP55BT (think it was the first BT radio available for under £200) and had loads of trouble with registration (had to use 'connect
wait') and unless I manually switch on BT on phone (mUn's WM6 SE) or manually tell the pioneer to connect nothing happens.
Also, when callers call me I cannot hear their voices through the speakers, but it's ok when I call them - do you have this problem?

neomagik said:
I've just used ssnap to create 2 snapshots of my registry, the 1st with a gps fix, and the 2nd without. When comparing the files using ExamDiff there is no obvious change that takes place.
Does anybody know of a GPS program that creates or changes registry entries once a fix is established?
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GPSGate changes the colour of its icon that resides in the system tray (red -no gps data, yellow - gps data but no fix, Green - Fixed). Not sure if this is controlled by a registry setting but may be worth a look. GPSGate also lets you use more than one GPS app at once and allows you to delegate COM ports for output.

@ debully>
There is a very simple fix to enable the Pioneer to recognise and connect to your phone. You see the Pioneer is searching for a phone or a Smartphone, the Trinity identifies itself as a PPC and so the Pioneer ignores it.
The Class of Device or CoD must be changed so that the Trinity identifies itself as either a phone or Smartphone.
If you change the Dword Data value in.... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD"
to 5374476 (decimal) and set bluetooth to discoverable in your Trin, you should find that it connects automatically.
It took me 8 months to find this out.
PS. I don't have the problem with not hearing the callers.

@neomagic
wow - thanks dude. Your a star!

To understand what you are dealing with in getting a "fix" you need to understand how the system works. When started for the first time in 2 hours (or whatever it's been programmed for) the gps does a cold start and needs to download almanac data from the sat's in order to determine their trajectories which is needed to calculate a fix. Once that data has been pulled, it's valid for a certain amount of time (about 2 hours if I'm remembering correctly). So, although no registry keys are going to change, the easy way to deal with this is to keep your own timestamp, and make sure to ping the gps with a fix request every 2 hours or so in order to keep it ready for a warm/quick start...

@ Shadowmite>
Thanks for the info, I've read similar information about cold/warm starts. A couple of questions though...
1) I can deal with the timestamp but how do I "ping" the gps with a fix request?
2) If I do ping a request every 2 hours and I'm indoors and can't get a fix, will it go back to needing a cold start?

Tomtom 6 is purposedly disable for the Tytn ??

Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.

louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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Try a search on the Hermes forum. I found lots of stuff.
I found THIS ONE . But there were MANY others. Some users reported success with some ROMs.

Don't fret, it works fine on mine... Are you running a WM6 image - you may wish to upgrade to wm6 if you're not. (or downgrade to TT5.....)
Treat the issue as 2 separate problems, bluetooth related loss of GPS unit, and the stability of the TT6 software.
There are any number of other applications that will let you connect and read signals from the GPS unit, try these to see if you have a faulty gps unit or if its TT playing up.
Once you're happy with this look at the TT issue.....

I have 2 Varios II and I can admit that I had some issues with TT6 with WM5. TT liked to freeze when I was typing in the address or browsing through menus. When I changed to WM5 AKU3.2 it was better, but still not perfect. Eventually, it was WM6 that helped me. Now TT6 is running without any issues (of course it can freeze from time to time when I have too many programmes running in the background). Just try any of new WM6 and everything should be fine.

I had TT5.21 which people said run fine which didnt on wm6 but TT6.1 works fine

Long time since i've been on here but while i was browsing about, i saw this problem. All i can suggest is using the inbuilt GPS and see how that works? I have TT6 as well and i have used it perfectly well on an XDA Mini, XDA Orbit, SPV M700, HTC Touch, HTC TyTn II... seems a bit odd that you're having these problems. Have you since cured the fault or is it still being a bit of a ****bag?!
While i'm here... anyone got the latest maps at all for TT6? Shout me on [email protected] if you have any info on TT6 or need any PDA / Pocket PC help.
Griz

ibanyard said:
Don't fret, it works fine on mine... Are you running a WM6 image - you may wish to upgrade to wm6 if you're not. (or downgrade to TT5.....)
Treat the issue as 2 separate problems, bluetooth related loss of GPS unit, and the stability of the TT6 software.
There are any number of other applications that will let you connect and read signals from the GPS unit, try these to see if you have a faulty gps unit or if its TT playing up.
Once you're happy with this look at the TT issue.....
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Yeah, I had established that the gps was working fine, I've been happily using it on my ipaq 2210 for ages. Then with the Hermes testing with gpsgate and some other stuff showed no problems.
The problem I had was that my TT6 was a 2GB SD card version and I didn't have micro SD big enough to test it. I had about 1hour to play with my friend's one and that's when I discovered the two problems.
He lent me the card to play with this evening and I've made a little progress now. I've sorted the flakey GPS operation, primarily by changing the com port, deleting the pairing and pairing again. So far that's not dropped out since.
Tomtom runs but freezes, this appears to be a confirmed problem which I hope that WM6 will solve as (mean-machine) suggests.
I feel a lot happier that the damn thing runs at least. The freezing appears to be related to cpu usage as I find that that zooming right out on a map is a good way to cause this to happen. The menu screens can be a problem too and the rest appear intermittent. As others have stated in other threads, hitting the red button and then switching back to TT will free it up.
I guess the next thing is to study the Wiki and try an make sense of the order things need to be done to put WM6 in, which Rom if any, which version of WM6. ... Information overload, so I think I need to take it slow and ingest the data .
Thanks for all the replys guys, it amazes me how much support HTC has and how many of you are passionate about them. Up till a few months ago I had never heard of HTC, now I doubt I'd consider anything else.

TomTom6
louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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I have been using TomTom 6 on my Imate Jasjam (TyTn) both with WM5 and many versions of WM6. It works flawlessly never missing a beat. What com port are you using? Have you turned off secure connection?

@louiscar: a good place to start with upgrading info (to avoid the overload) is THIS SITE . Great guides that make it simple.

rbin said:
I have been using TomTom 6 on my Imate Jasjam (TyTn) both with WM5 and many versions of WM6. It works flawlessly never missing a beat. What com port are you using? Have you turned off secure connection?
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Hi rbin,
I've currently got the GPS panel set to 'program port = com2', 'hardware port = com0' and my bluetooth gps is set to 'outgoing = com0'
Currently this works well so the GPS issue has been resolved.
Tomtom on the other hand freezes pretty much as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299892&highlight=tomtom+freezes
and in a number of other threads.

todd_jg said:
@louiscar: a good place to start with upgrading info (to avoid the overload) is THIS SITE . Great guides that make it simple.
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Great link, thanks Todd. Reading glasses are on already.

TT6 w/Pharos and Holux recievers work great
I've an AT&T Tytn upgraded to WM6 and have no troubles with my Holux or Pharos receivers and TT6.
Everything works great EXCEPT issues with data connections such as TT Buddies or traffic. This isn't unique to the PDA version of the software though, as I also have a standalone TomTom GO 910 paired with the phone and it works almost okay as a bluetooth speaker phone, but constantly has trouble getting a good data connection.
My $0.02

louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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I have used TT6 on my MDA VArio II (TyTn) for almost a year...no problem. Now I have the TyTn II

Same here.. been using Tom tom 6 on my Tytn since the day i installed wm6, no problems here, works like a charm!

HEAT???
I have been using TT6 on my Imate JASJAM running the DOPOD WM6 ROM without much trouble (no hanging etc). The only problem I am experiencing is huge power drain and the unit being physically hot when running TT. Maybe this power drain and potential overheating can cause some units to hang and playup, or potentially any unit given the right environment!
Anyone else finding their units getting a bit hot?

I've been using TT6 on my Tytn (MDA Vario II) almost one year now. No problems. Started using TT6 while running WM5, upgraded to WM6 (schaps rom), reinstalled TT6 and it just continued as before. No problems, no hangups no freezing. I've been using all kinds of different charts with TT6, so I don't think the problem is with TT.

louiscar said:
Hi rbin,
I've currently got the GPS panel set to 'program port = com2', 'hardware port = com0' and my bluetooth gps is set to 'outgoing = com0'
Currently this works well so the GPS issue has been resolved.
Tomtom on the other hand freezes pretty much as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299892&highlight=tomtom+freezes
and in a number of other threads.
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Going to try your settings too, cause on all WM6 roms I tried I keep losing my GPS BT connection. I'm not damn sure it got nothing to do with TT6. But when I delete my gps and reconnect it while TT6 is up and running, TT will find the gps straight away. So imho it's the BT connection that fails and not TT.
It's really annoying though.
Cheers, M

I have been running TomTom Navigator 6 on my JASJAM for some time. The hanging problem described is probably caused by having all the Points Of Interest (POI) active.
Go into the TomTom settings menu and de-activate ALL the POIs. Try it, then only turn on the ones you actually require.

oltp said:
Going to try your settings too, cause on all WM6 roms I tried I keep losing my GPS BT connection. I'm not damn sure it got nothing to do with TT6. But when I delete my gps and reconnect it while TT6 is up and running, TT will find the gps straight away. So imho it's the BT connection that fails and not TT.
It's really annoying though.
Cheers, M
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Doesn't work either. Seems that after a soft-reset the BT connection with my GPS is f*d. Very strange because the BT headset doesn't suffer any of this. Maybe time to buy a new GPS, but with WM5 I never experienced this behaviour.

I found that with tt6 you need to have the WM6 internal gps settings set to "None" for both program and hardware port. Then make sure the box is checked in the last tab so it autodetects the com ports. Once all this is set and you goto add a bluetooth gps device in tt6 it gives you the option to use com port 0. select this port and it should detect your gps unit with no probs. Been running tt6 on my 8525 with tnt's latest cooked rom and things couldn't be running smoother.
Edit: On another note. I used to use Telenav with my 8525 with the original at&t rom. I had the worst luck with that application. I would constantly lose my gps connect and I almost always had to do a soft-reset to get it working again. It is quite possible that Telenav was not the issue and that the particular rom I was using had bluetooth connection issues that were resolved when I switched to a cooked rom such as the tnt one. So for those using tt6 with BT connection problems you may want to try a different rom and see how your luck goes.