Equals Sign oh Desire Keyboard - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

There is a thread on this already but the answer didn't make sense to me and the two words I have to type to login to the main site don't agree when I type them so I ask here: how do I type an equals sign on the standard Android keyboard?
The answer given was hold down the 12# key and then the 1/2 key bottom left. There is no 1/2 key bottom left on my keyboard ...
Presumably there are a whole lot of currency symbols as well but when I long press on the f key I only see $ which seems very strange.
Please help me with these mysteries.
xxos
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If you're talking about stock, isn't it like this?
1) Press the [?123] key on the bottom left.
2) Press the [ALT] key above the [ABC] key?

It is on stock Andoird ROMs but the OP doesn't say if they're on stock or Sense

EddyOS said:
It is on stock Andoird ROMs but the OP doesn't say if they're on stock or Sense
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Definitely, so I only assumed it was stock from his first post
xxos said:
...how do I type an equals sign on the standard Android keyboard?
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Yes and no ...
It seems that the misunderstanding is because the instructions are in American whereas I speak read and write English.
'Press' in English means 'push down and hold' but it seems that 'press' in American means 'push down and withdraw'?
Sent from my beautiful HTC Desire 2.2 using Tapatalk

Makes me American then I've always treated 'Press' as 'Push and Release' unless told otherwise.
Suppose its all how you interprete it
KYI

OK well I'm from Aotearoa and in Aotearoa press means what it says in the English English dictionary I glanced at which is 'exert a steady pressure'.
It's only important when one needs to know in a given procedure - like rooting - exactly what one is doing.
Perhaps the consistent meaning on these forums is the equivalent of a mouse click not a mouse click and hold?
xxos
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Very stupid question

So after having my new Tilt 2 for a couple of days I was cleaning out my inbox and I realized that because there is no d-pad I cannot select an e-mail without opening it, unless I have the keyboard out and use the arrows
This means that if I want to delete an e-mail that is not at the top of the list I need to press once to open, once to open menu and again to delete. Does not seem right.
I think I saw something that allowed the zoom slider to be used as a dpad of sorts but I actually like it the way it is.
I feel really stupid asking this and I did search but could not easily find an asnwer.
click on the small letter, you will see the menu that will allow use to manage the mail without seeing it.
dcdivenut said:
So after having my new Tilt 2 for a couple of days I was cleaning out my inbox and I realized that because there is no d-pad I cannot select an e-mail without opening it, unless I have the keyboard out and use the arrows
This means that if I want to delete an e-mail that is not at the top of the list I need to press once to open, once to open menu and again to delete. Does not seem right.
I think I saw something that allowed the zoom slider to be used as a dpad of sorts but I actually like it the way it is.
I feel really stupid asking this and I did search but could not easily find an asnwer.
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Here's one hard-key solution that re-maps the volume keys on the side of the phone:
VolDpad
...from a post on another XDA board
vigohz said:
click on the small letter, you will see the menu that will allow use to manage the mail without seeing it.
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That's a great tip! I never realized that! You should put that in the wiki!
Thanks
Thanks to both vigohz and MCBrian!
You can also press and hold the message in the list you wish to do something with and you will get the same list of actions as if you tapped on the small letter.
SPL doesn't match
Hi
trying to unlock my HTC 8925 and going into rom mode it shows:
KAIS1*O
SPL-1-56.000
CPLD-8
While running the step one its doesn't let me update rom. Also my rom is 1.57.00.000 but the kaiser rom show1.00.000. Can you please help me what the problem is
Thank You
Yonzon
yonzon1 said:
Hi
trying to unlock my HTC 8925 and going into rom mode it shows:
KAIS1*O
SPL-1-56.000
CPLD-8
While running the step one its doesn't let me update rom. Also my rom is 1.57.00.000 but the kaiser rom show1.00.000. Can you please help me what the problem is
Thank You
Yonzon
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You seem to be lost...you have a Kaiser, not a Rhodium.
You should be posting in one of the Kaiser sub-forums.
bigparahandy said:
You can also press and hold the message in the list you wish to do something with and you will get the same list of actions as if you tapped on the small letter.
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Wow, I did not know either of these two tips, I had been opening the onscreen keypad and using the arrow keys to move down to the message. Thanks to both of you!

Found voice to text in the user manual !

I looked into the user manual that was uploaded by user "redmongoose":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6002105&postcount=5
Page 70
And see what I found (see attached image).
I think this will be enabled on HTC retail version, but not on T-Mobile version.
Probably ...
PS: To get the manual: Connect you phone to a PC, Mount the SD Card and there you will find the manual
gogol said:
I looked into the user manual that was uploaded by user "redmongoose":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6002105&postcount=5
Page 70
And see what I found (see attached image).
I think this will be enabled on HTC retail version, but not on T-Mobile version.
Probably ...
PS: To get the manual: Connect you phone to a PC, Mount the SD Card and there you will find the manual
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Loool that was fast!!!
great ... I hope what ur saying is true thanx for sharing
so it seems that T-mobile version is kind of like a pre-retail for everyother provider?
Nice find!
cez10 said:
so it seems that T-mobile version is kind of like a pre-retail for everyother provider?
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That would make sense as Vodafone in the Netherlands are getting them 14-15th of April.
I think the screenshot in the manual is showing an early version of the desire ROM, but was later removed. The manual doesn't seem to describe it anywhere as a feature.
There's a page on slashgear (search for Desire vs Nexus, I'm a new user so can't provide link) where somebody has left a comment suggesting that voice to text is currently exclusive to the Nexus, hence I think it was there in the desire rom but had to be disabled.
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I think the screenshot in the manual is showing an early version of the desire ROM, but was later removed. The manual doesn't seem to describe it anywhere as a feature.
There's a page on slashgear (search for Desire vs Nexus, I'm a new user so can't provide link) where somebody has left a comment suggesting that voice to text is currently exclusive to the Nexus, hence I think it was there in the desire rom but had to be disabled.
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Welcome aboard!
There is a thread about this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650076 which includes a link to the video you refer to.
I cannot think any single reason why such feature is removed when it was there before.
As I understood, the voice to text is a standard feature of Android 2.1, and not HTC.
How about the past HTC android 2.1 devices such as HTC Legend?
Is it not compatible with the HTC sense UI?
Someone should try this custom HTC keyboard, it has voice-to-text and other enhancements:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
Btw, probably we need to email HTC and/or T-Mobile to have clarification about this once and for all.
Mister-C said:
I think the screenshot in the manual is showing an early version of the desire ROM, but was later removed. The manual doesn't seem to describe it anywhere as a feature.
There's a page on slashgear (search for Desire vs Nexus, I'm a new user so can't provide link) where somebody has left a comment suggesting that voice to text is currently exclusive to the Nexus, hence I think it was there in the desire rom but had to be disabled.
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I won't be surprised if this feature was disabled in HTC Desire and Legend. One reason comes to my mind is the lack of the extra mic for noise cancellation, as it must help in voice-to-text working properly in certain conditions.
Nevertheless, even if that was the case, I'm sure as soon as Desire roms start cooking, this will be the first thing we'll see.
But I am wondering how clicking on that "voice-to-text/settings" button would work? is it going to be a 2-clicks process to activate? that kind of sux!
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Welcome aboard!
There is a thread about this here which includes a link to the video you refer to.
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Glad to be here! I'll be even gladder when Clove deliver my Sim free handset...
The vid in the link relates to a Nexus phone, so this muddies things a little. However, I've seen other vids from the MWC showing that the keyboard on the Desire did indeed at one point have the mic icon on it.
Some people are speculating that retail/sim only units with have the feature enabled, but I don't think that will happen. As said above, I think it was simply that even though V2T is a standard feature of Android 2.1, it probably wasn't very effective without the noise cancellation hardware.
Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see just how well the Desire can do this - I've seen some videos of the V2T in action on the Nexus and its quite impressive.
There are pics of an Australian delivered model (Telstra branded) here:
http://news.smarthouse.com.au/images/shared/2010032804133605702.jpg
You can see from the pic that the V2T button is definitely there.
Full review:
http://smarthouse.com.au/Reviews/Phones/S2T2D4C2
Have you tried another Keyboard? "Better Keyboard" for example has the Speech to text key.
The-Nazgul said:
Have you tried another Keyboard? "Better Keyboard" for example has the Speech to text key.
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Just tried Better Keyboard. When i press the speech button i get:
"your phone does not have speech recognition engine"
I'll be a little annoyed if the sim free version has it.
trice1921 said:
Just tried Better Keyboard. When i press the speech button i get:
"your phone does not have speech recognition engine"
I'll be a little annoyed if the sim free version has it.
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ouch, .. i hope this have nothing to do with the fact that the desire doesnt have that stupid "noise cancellation".
and on the contrary, i would be delighted if the sim free version has it xP
If the retail unlocked version does not have it, then I will be very annoyed because they advertised it:
http://www.desirehtc.com/
Enter then click Android.
trice1921 said:
Just tried Better Keyboard. When i press the speech button i get:
"your phone does not have speech recognition engine"
I'll be a little annoyed if the sim free version has it.
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You're right, I quote their website "Imagine sending texts or emails simply by talking to your phone. Now do it, we're there."
I have sent them an e-mail asking if and when "we'll be there"...
trice1921 said:
Just tried Better Keyboard. When i press the speech button i get:
"your phone does not have speech recognition engine"
I'll be a little annoyed if the sim free version has it.
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Thats bad... Perhaps its just because of the T-Mobile Rom. But even this wouldnt make any sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMURlBnUuk
Check this out.
That one is not T-Mobile version, I guess ...
The problem here is with the T-Mobile version, which does not include the voice to text "engine".
Or probably it (the engine) is disabled ... accidentally before shipping the device.
lukaswat said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMURlBnUuk
Check this out.
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gogol said:
That one is not T-Mobile version, I guess ...
The problem here is with the T-Mobile version, which does not include the voice to text "engine".
Or probably it (the engine) is disabled ... accidentally before shipping the device.
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That's why im posting it. They probably left it out on the t-mobile version..

£ sign on keyboard

Having done a search of the forums I have found a cab file for the HD2 which will put the £ sign as a long press on the f button but cannot find anything for android.
Does anybody know if this has been done for the android on the desire as this would make it much easier to select than having to go through to the 2nd page of the numbers screen. Or if the $ sign can be changed to £. Thanks in advance.
Hmm I get the feeling you will probably have to install a customisable keyboard
Would be as simple as editing the IME. I say simple... I don't know how to do it, but know it can be done.
Thanks for the reply,s is there anybody out there that could edit the IME as I don't even know what it is. It would be handy for UK and maybe European desire owners on the long press on the F button if we could choose between the £ and Euro sign.
Thanks Again
Oops sorry didn't read the op's message properly.
There's someone who's edited the keyboard to have a microphone icon on it. You could try contacting him and asking him if he would consider adding the £ sign in the next release?
I don't have time to search but there's a topic on it somewhere in this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663608
al89nut said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663608
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Thanks I have just left a message on that thread

Desire Z forum suggestion

When I get to my daily visit to the XDA forum, to leech and see what the latest developments are, I always click the "FORUMS" menu item. This gives me a list with all the available forums, complete with an image of the phones associated with them. Or it gives me a list with phone images and the forums associated with them.. who cares
What I do is, scroll down as fast as I can and try to spot the phone that I'm really interested in, the Desire Z. The only problem is, what my eyes are looking (scanning) for is a phone with a keyboard. And here's the thing, the image used for the Desire Z forum... doesn't show the keyboard!!! Which to me is kinda silly, since the main thing for the phone is the keyboard. And I believe most other phones that have a keyboard, show the keyboard in the image. So I feel left out.
So my kind request to you moderator types is: "Could we, Desire Z users (or maybe it's just me), get an image that shows the keyboard for the forum?"
I mean, the fact that most of us find out that we don't use the keyboard as much as we had expected, doesn't mean it's not there! Keyboards have rights too you know!
Anyway, thanks.
Hi i am keen on desire z. How is the hw keyboard? My fingers tend to be too thick for small km.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
I'm really happy with it actually. The keyboard is nice, they left enough room between the keys even for larger fingers. But if you have thumbs the size of sausages it's going to be tough on any hw keyboard I guess. My thumbs aren't that big and I was used to using the Xperia X1 keyboard, so this is a great improvement
The only problem I have is the fact that I don't use it as often as I thought I would. The onscreen keyboard is great, so I find myself using that a lot more for quick messages than the hw keyboard.
I guess for smartphones the hw keyboard really is dying.... It's sad... Even Blackberry has a touch-screen/keyboard combo device nowadays
Or... at the top right, just type "Z" in "find your device", and pick it there?
If thats the particular forum you jump to first of all then why not set some kind of bookmark/quicklink in your browser......
And as Pulser said, top right corner.... find any device in seconds.
I cant remember the last time I had to scroll through that list.
conantroutman said:
If thats the particular forum you jump to first of all then why not set some kind of bookmark/quicklink in your browser......
And as Pulser said, top right corner.... find any device in seconds.
I cant remember the last time I had to scroll through that list.
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THis is exactly what I do, I have three links on my book marks bar on Chrome, one to take me straight to desire z forum, one to the general android section and another to the front page.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA Premium App
I know, you are all right. And I do have a bookmark and I do know how to use the search or the CTRL+F keys. Still, isn't it a little strange that every picture in the list has the keyboard out when it has one, except for the Desire Z.
You do know I'm being a little sarcastic in my first post right?

Swype: Can't highlight words with double tap?

You guys notice that you can't double tap the word to highlight with the stock version of Swype included with the SGSII? Not sure why this is no longer available, really helped speed things up with editing on the SGS versions of Swype.
Yes I noticed that, makes it annoying to fix typos...
it's to do with the samsung "correction" system.
It is possible to edit words via swype, but its a bit clunky, you long press the word, click select word, and then wait 2 seconds for the samsung crap to get out of the way.
I'm sure that the correction thing can be disabled letting us use swype more intuitively.
Apparently you can just uninstall the swype that comes on the phone and install the latest beta from the swype website and get that feature back.
drm111 said:
Apparently you can just uninstall the swype that comes on the phone and install the latest beta from the swype website and get that feature back.
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I think I might just do that, definitely makes it a lot more difficult to go back and edit!
EDIT: NOPE, that didn't work. Don't bother, it's something with the OS.
I think this is actually a gingerbread thing.
Froyo used to do it fine but when I upgraded my
Old phone to gingerbread I could no longer do it.
The text selection is different.
You can click on the word you want to change then
Press the swype button once to get up the word list.
Hope this helps.
Also, once you have the word list up, you can press the 'Shift' key to get a list of capitalisation options for the word, e.g. word, Word, WORD.
Swype is the main reason I'm on an Android phone. I like the SGS2, of course, but having played with dual boot WP7 and Android on an HD2, Swype was the main reason for going Android. No regrets, mind you
I would LOVEEEE to fix this.., someone freaking sticky this.. I tried installing my swype from sgs1 froyo but no good.. I also hate how , comma is where space bar used to be.. always hit it instead of space
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Gustopher said:
Also, once you have the word list up, you can press the 'Shift' key to get a list of capitalisation options for the word, e.g. word, Word, WORD.
Swype is the main reason I'm on an Android phone. I like the SGS2, of course, but having played with dual boot WP7 and Android on an HD2, Swype was the main reason for going Android. No regrets, mind you
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Cool man I share your passion for swype. Been using it since day one.
As soon as I have some means to instal them like recovery I'm going to
Port my skins over and I can make custom versions for peeps.
if we can get old swype back all problems would be,gone
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soraxd said:
if we can get old swype back all problems would be,gone
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Hmm well I have apks for the beta, my own custom version,
Maybe If I can change the name,.sign then instal it along side
Our built in version. I do prefer the beta too. Too many buttons
At the bottom on this version, but as I said, it might be gingerbreads
New way of text selection causing the problem cos it happened on
My old phone. Very annoying.
Edit : I wouldn't be able to post it here tho as its against the rules.
If you want to edit the word, just single tap the word and tap the swype icon on the bottom left of the keyboard which brings up all your options.
zxz88 said:
If you want to edit the world, just single tap the word and tap the swype icon on the bottom left of the keyboard which brings up all your options.
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We have a winner. Don't double tap, long press, or highlight the word. as long as the cursor is next to the word, the swype button will show the suggested words list.
Burko
Thanks for solving that for me zxz88!
Now, how do I ad words to it?
press anywhere on the word you want to correct to get the cursor there, then just press the swype key in the bottom left corner of the keyboard.....does the trick without having to select the whole word again....i had the same problem you did, then realized there must be another way....
actually.. that isn't too bad, I still don't like how much of the spacebar was cut to add 2 new keys tho.. I ALWAYS hit ,,,,,, for space
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zxz88 said:
If you want to edit the word, just single tap the word and tap the swype icon on the bottom left of the keyboard which brings up all your options.
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Yes, but Swype previously you could just double tap to bring up the word choice, one less step = faster.
BTW, this looks to be a Gingerbread bug, not Swype's... and is documented on Swype's forum: http://forum.swype.com/showthread.php?2928-Gingerbread-2.3.3-Double-Tap-opening-Edit-Menu.
On a side note... can one of you nice people post up the "libswypecore.so" file from XWKE2's /system/lib directory? It got deleted when I installed the beta version, I think the stock version runs faster.
Thanks!
cmd512 said:
Yes, but Swype previously you could just double tap to bring up the word choice, one less step = faster.
BTW, this looks to be a Gingerbread bug, not Swype's... and is documented on Swype's forum: http://forum.swype.com/showthread.php?2928-Gingerbread-2.3.3-Double-Tap-opening-Edit-Menu.
On a side note... can one of you nice people post up the "libswypecore.so" file from XWKE2's /system/lib directory? It got deleted when I installed the beta version, I think the stock version runs faster.
Thanks!
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Surely a double tap and 2 separate taps are the same number of steps? I find the new way more intuitive in day to day use.
In fact if you are correcting the word you have just typed, you don't have to double tap at all anymore. One less step = faster right?
Burko
f0ffen said:
Thanks for solving that for me zxz88!
Now, how do I ad words to it?
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No problem, to add words I believe you just type out the new word instead of swyping it gets added as a new word so the next time you can swype it!
Burko said:
Surely a double tap and 2 separate taps are the same number of steps? I find the new way more intuitive in day to day use.
In fact if you are correcting the word you have just typed, you don't have to double tap at all anymore. One less step = faster right?
Burko
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Wrong, it's all about WHERE you're tapping. If I quickly double tap on the word, my finger doesn't move from that spot and I can immediately pick the replacement word. If I have to put the cursor on the word, then move down to the keyboard all the way to the lower left to hit the option button, and then move back up to select word, of course that's slower.
Pretty straightforward really... how could you say the two are the same? It's like saying you're both driving from points A to B, who cares about distance, lol.

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