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I know this was covered a lot early on in the G2's career, but I haven't found any definitive answers on any of these topics, despite hours upon hours of searching. Today my entire family received our G2's in the mail after renewing with a 2 year contract. All four of them have varying degrees of loose hinges (mine falls onto my thumbs as soon as it's vertical). Two have defective SD cards (recognized but unmountable) and one was missing an SD card entirely. All report only ~1.2GB of internal storage. Obviously the SD card issues aren't part of the design, but I haven't found a clear answer on the 1.2GB of reported space and the loose hinges. Did we simply receive a batch of early-manufacture phones suffering from defects, or are these exactly what we'd get fresh off the assembly line today? The only information I can find is pure conjecture, and I'd like definitive information before I call T-Mobile and raise hell.
The definitive answer to the storage issue can be found in the wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
Also, hinges seem to be YMMV. If you look around the forums there are some pretty intense spring mods and what-not to better suit your needs
To be honest the loose hinge seems to open up more of a debate than anything else, the general consensus seems that by design by htc it is actually loose. there's a few out there that got lucky and got a tight spring/hinge however this "loose" design doesn't bode well to some users (including me). that opted to do the tighter screw mod.
I even talked to an HTC service center to fix my loose hinge issue and after testing they told me that it was by design.
some users like it loose (easier to open and close) while some wants it tight and does the mod. so it's more of preference really.
Hi folks. I have sold my Galaxy s2 more from an eager impulse to upgrade, and I have been rolling without a phone now because I couldn't simply decide which to get. At some point I even regret I have sold the s2 which was perfectly fine. But now since I did it I said at least to make a substantial upgrade. I have a micro sim with unlimited data until next year in may so I won't upgrade until then, even more, I would like to keep it longer than that.
I narrowed my choices to
S3 (used grade B - 260£),
Nexus 4 (new with 1 year warranty - 288£)
and Note 2 (used grade C - 305£, or 320£ grade B)
the used phones come with 60 days warranty only, no box or other accesories except USB cable (basically phones from recycling websites, so in good condition)
I think I took out s3 out of the list now..because for 20£ more you can get new N4
so it's between n4 and n2
I don't mind about the storage but it is a + obviously
I like to have good battery (when travelling or using google maps I don't want to get in trouble, though there are those mobile chargers available)
I used the n2 in the shop and I could control 85% of the touchscreen with one hand.
I like being able to read kindle, kobo ebooks on the phone, and having a swiss knife like n2 is
I like music and podcasts.
I am worried about N4: back of glass, god knows how many times I dropped s2 or bumped it., although I think aftermarket backcover will be available or could stick a dbrand skin
battery,
battery: from what I've red it looks like it's average, although pretty sure it's better than my used s2
Worried about N2
only 60 days warranty
price is higher, even if used condition (grade C might have scratches and scuffs but I heard very good reviews and it generally goes one class better)
worried about size, is it more fragile because the size? can I use it while running listening to music?
It really is a though call...but I need a phone, thought to rebuy a s2 or a htc one s/x (used of course) but considering I will be using this for more than a year with full blown unlimited internet, I might as well make a significant upgrade...
Which one should I get?
I was luck to use a Galaxy Nexus 4 and then move on to the SGN II
The Note is great doesn't take long to get used to the size.
Downside to the Nexus as I see it... Not as much support/custom roms etc
The Nexus is limited IMO - no external storage, no removable battery. 16GB fills up really quickly and streaming isn't always an option (think big games and satnav)
So other than the obvious tech spec differences for me the Note was the way forward.
nc35 said:
I was luck to use a Galaxy Nexus 4 and then move on to the SGN II
The Note is great doesn't take long to get used to the size.
Downside to the Nexus as I see it... Not as much support/custom roms etc
The Nexus is limited IMO - no external storage, no removable battery. 16GB fills up really quickly and streaming isn't always an option (think big games and satnav)
So other than the obvious tech spec differences for me the Note was the way forward.
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thanks for your input
What most worries me is the warranty. Although I did not have any problem with s2 that would require RMA or servicing, is the N2 a sturdy device that doesn't develop faults along the way?
Ashan85 said:
thanks for your input
What most worries me is the warranty. Although I did not have any problem with s2 that would require RMA or servicing, is the N2 a sturdy device that doesn't develop faults along the way?
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Not if you update to the latest samsung rom.
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Choose Samsung Galaxy Note 2 because it has:
1. Great battery
2. Large/Amazing screen (reading books through Kindle or Kobo is just fantastic )
3. Removable battery
4. Micro SD slot
5. Project Butter (everything goes very smooth, no lag)
Plus, s-pen, good camera.
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artorelis said:
Choose Samsung Galaxy Note 2 because it has:
1. Great battery
2. Large/Amazing screen (reading books through Kindle or Kobo is just fantastic )
3. Removable battery
4. Micro SD slot
5. Project Butter (everything goes very smooth, no lag)
Plus, s-pen, good camera.
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Project butter is of Google or samsung?
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I've had 2 note 2's and haven't had a single issue in the months since owning.
I own both a note 2 & a nexus 4, I much prefer the note 2 and use it 95% of the time. It is a brilliant all rounder & don't think any other phone on the market presently beats it for looks or overall performance, IMO.
Get the note 2 you won't regret it at all
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I've had 2 note 2's and haven't had a single issue in the months since owning.
I own both a note 2 & a nexus 4, I much prefer the note 2 and use it 95% of the time. It is a brilliant all rounder & don't think any other phone on the market presently beats it for looks or overall performance, IMO.
Get the note 2 you won't regret it at all
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Can you give me your n4 cuz you use n2 most of the time.
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This is a new concept to me but what exactly are the differences in conditions between these grades?
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bushako said:
This is a new concept to me but what exactly are the differences in conditions between these grades?
Sent from the rabbit hole.
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I will copy paste here...They are from recycle companies that buy mobiles, it is a bit risky but considering the phone has been on the market for only 4 months a grade c might be in reality grade b. There is also free returns 7 days policy.
What does Grade A mean?
• The phone is used but in excellent condition.
• Cosmetically the phone will show no signs of use, there will be no scratches,
cracks or scuffs to the screen or casing.
• It’s been fully tested*, is in full working order and has been restored to the latest operating system.
What does Grade B mean?
• The phone is used and in good condition.
• Cosmetically the phone will show signs of slight use, including two or three minor scratches to the screen and casing. It wont have cracks on the screen or casing.
• It’s been fully tested*, is in full working order and has been restored to the latest operating system.
What does Grade C mean?
• The phone is used and in average condition.
• Cosmetically the phone will show signs of use, including some scratches and
scuffs to the screen and casing. It wont have cracks on the screen or casing.
• It’s been fully tested*, is in full working order and has been restored to the latest operating system.
Ah in that case I'd settle for the Nexus 4 if i were you., the Note 2 is a great device with much more functionality but reality is there is nothing like getting a phone right out of the box Atleast in my case and that alone would be my deciding factor besides the fact that it uses pure android which Is a plus for me too.
I've had a lot of bad experiences with used phones in the past and since then I've always opted for brand new. However, if you do decide to get the Note2 then I can add that incase the housing is pretty bad, since you've mentioned it's a grade c, then you can easily replace the housing for as cheap as 10bucks from www.cnn.cn. Their products are of high quality standard and very cheap.
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Tough one really. It keeps bouncing in my head on and off... I know I can't buy anything better than these with 300£, it is basically a real upgrade mid contract with just a small cost. I also want to use it for more than one year this time.
Ashan85 said:
Hi folks. I have sold my Galaxy s2 more from an eager impulse to upgrade, and I have been rolling without a phone now because I couldn't simply decide which to get. At some point I even regret I have sold the s2 which was perfectly fine. But now since I did it I said at least to make a substantial upgrade. I have a micro sim with unlimited data until next year in may so I won't upgrade until then, even more, I would like to keep it longer than that.
I narrowed my choices to
S3 (used grade B - 260£),
Nexus 4 (new with 1 year warranty - 288£)
and Note 2 (used grade C - 305£, or 320£ grade B)
the used phones come with 60 days warranty only, no box or other accesories except USB cable (basically phones from recycling websites, so in good condition)
I think I took out s3 out of the list now..because for 20£ more you can get new N4
so it's between n4 and n2
I don't mind about the storage but it is a + obviously
I like to have good battery (when travelling or using google maps I don't want to get in trouble, though there are those mobile chargers available)
I used the n2 in the shop and I could control 85% of the touchscreen with one hand.
I like being able to read kindle, kobo ebooks on the phone, and having a swiss knife like n2 is
I like music and podcasts.
I am worried about N4: back of glass, god knows how many times I dropped s2 or bumped it., although I think aftermarket backcover will be available or could stick a dbrand skin
battery,
battery: from what I've red it looks like it's average, although pretty sure it's better than my used s2
Worried about N2
only 60 days warranty
price is higher, even if used condition (grade C might have scratches and scuffs but I heard very good reviews and it generally goes one class better)
worried about size, is it more fragile because the size? can I use it while running listening to music?
It really is a though call...but I need a phone, thought to rebuy a s2 or a htc one s/x (used of course) but considering I will be using this for more than a year with full blown unlimited internet, I might as well make a significant upgrade...
Which one should I get?
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Hi
You should take a look at Panamoz.com.
They specialise in camera lenses but offer really good prices on phones which are imported from Honk Kong and with 1 year warranty. You can get a new LTE S3 for just a bit more than a Nexus, etc.
I know people who have used the site and they all recommend it.
Okay disregard that.
It seems to have jumped up over £200!
Must have been a long discount they had over the holiday period when I last checked.
Note 2:
+/-big screen
+more storage
+bigger battery (but also higher energy consumption through display)
+SPEN extremly useful in combination with FreeNote at University | AND try out Swype, swiping is perfect for SPEN
Nexus 4:
+newest firmware
+feels noble/high quality (unibody and glass front + back)
+more custom ROMs
-storage
I would prefer the NII mainly beacause of the big screen with AMOLED technology. I tested both devices and felt in love with the NII.
xhizorsz said:
Note 2:
+/-big screen
+more storage
+bigger battery (but also higher energy consumption through display)
+SPEN extremly useful in combination with FreeNote at University | AND try out Swype, swiping is perfect for SPEN
Nexus 4:
+newest firmware
+feels noble/high quality (unibody and glass front + back)
+more custom ROMs
-storage
I would prefer the NII mainly beacause of the big screen with AMOLED technology. I tested both devices and felt in love with the NII.
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THE Note 2 came yesterday. Unfortunately it is mint on the case, but has 3 scratched, visible with the screen off, visible on white background, one 1 inch long, and 2 small, and then there are 4 more small scratches, the ones that I don't mind....quite a good condition for a grade C, I would say others would sell this as very good condition.
I think I will try to exchange it with a C or chuck 15£ more for a B; Or shouldn't I? If i put a screen protector will it make me forget about those? Does a scratched screen weaken the gorilla glass 2?
Bad about it is that the back panel creacks and flexes making sounds.
Oh..and the titanium color is beautiful.
It is true how everybody said, at first I was shocked about the size of it, and felt intimadet a bit. I am quite tall, 6.3. my hands are regular size but I have very thin fingers, but after one day I am sold, I was ready to run for a s3 or n4 because of the size, but now it doesn't feel like that anymore. The money are well spent I think, could keep this for 2 years no doubt, only badpart is I need to buy an mp3 player for running.
Battery is a WOW factor, 20h 22m on battery (8 hours from the night losing 1%/hour) screen time 4h 39m and still got 29% left. A 1hour movie episode on bbc iplayer (wifi stream) took 9% of the battery!
Ashan85 said:
THE Note 2 came yesterday. Unfortunately it is mint on the case, but has 3 scratched, visible with the screen off, visible on white background, one 1 inch long, and 2 small, and then there are 4 more small scratches, the ones that I don't mind....quite a good condition for a grade C, I would say others would sell this as very good condition.
I think I will try to exchange it with a C or chuck 15£ more for a B; Or shouldn't I? If i put a screen protector will it make me forget about those? Does a scratched screen weaken the gorilla glass 2?
Bad about it is that the back panel creacks and flexes making sounds.
Oh..and the titanium color is beautiful.
It is true how everybody said, at first I was shocked about the size of it, and felt intimadet a bit. I am quite tall, 6.3. my hands are regular size but I have very thin fingers, but after one day I am sold, I was ready to run for a s3 or n4 because of the size, but now it doesn't feel like that anymore. The money are well spent I think, could keep this for 2 years no doubt, only badpart is I need to buy an mp3 player for running.
Battery is a WOW factor, 20h 22m on battery (8 hours from the night losing 1%/hour) screen time 4h 39m and still got 29% left. A 1hour movie episode on bbc iplayer (wifi stream) took 9% of the battery!
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Yea just get a good quality anti glare screen protector and it should hide the scratches well. I hope.you get to enjoy it the way it's meant to be.
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hmm I don't see the competition here.
The ONLY reason you would choose N4 over Note 2 is you can't handle the screen size.
Like you want one hand operation at all time or you put your phone in your pants pocket but your pants are all has incredibly small pockets.
This is the only reason I can think of people would choose N4 over Note 2.
Other than this, I think Note 2 superior to N4 on every aspect.
darkinners said:
hmm I don't see the competition here.
The ONLY reason you would choose N4 over Note 2 is you can't handle the screen size.
Like you want one hand operation at all time or you put your phone in your pants pocket but your pants are all has incredibly small pockets.
This is the only reason I can think of people would choose N4 over Note 2.
Other than this, I think Note 2 superior to N4 on every aspect.
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Thanks, it was more about the budget. But as you can see, even a used note 2 is dearer than n4.
darkinners said:
hmm I don't see the competition here.
The ONLY reason you would choose N4 over Note 2 is you can't handle the screen size.
Like you want one hand operation at all time or you put your phone in your pants pocket but your pants are all has incredibly small pockets.
This is the only reason I can think of people would choose N4 over Note 2.
Other than this, I think Note 2 superior to N4 on every aspect.
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......and the price
I take lot of care with my stuff and my phone even though is almost 2 years or 3 it still looks like new.
I bought it used like new but with a small pixel like crack dot at the center and it actually never bothered at all.
Very very slight scratches as well but they where there since the day I bought it used.
The only flaw is a small crack at the back of the phone left corner but I fixed it as best as I could. The crack is at the left edge but it didn't snapped out.
I never used a screen protector, only the Urban Armor Gear which IMO is the best case ever.
I'm also offering a separated Memory Stick with 32 Gigs.
Comes with everything except an instruction manual because that's how it came when I bought it in the first time.
Here is a descent picture I just took and since I just got a Nexus 6 I won't need this and I need to save money.
This SGS3 is also Rooted with "SlimBeam" Rom installed.
So how much can I sell this for with all honesty?
I would expect a total of $240 because of the separate memory stick of 32 gigs and the UAG case cover.
Might want to move this to Q&A
If you're in the US, I'd guess you'd get a maximum of around $150 ... in comparison I've seen refurb S4's on sale for $195 so I think your estimate of $240 is a little optimistic
I'll go with $150 then. Thank you very much!
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After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Have you scratched yours?
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Some valid points but some are just nonsense....
You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
The finger print sensor has nothing wrong with it. Due to your preferences and what you are used to, you are creating this problem.
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m00moo said:
You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
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in a way that when you pay almost 1000 EUR for a device, you expect much more.
and the test period has demonstrated that the device is not up to the expectations.
in other words, the device is overpriced; the price is grossly inflated.
that is evident to most users of previous Note models, even without purchasing it.
How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
djide01 said:
How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Volume is very low.
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :.
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
lskeys said:
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
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Its screen has the same size and resolution as the Note 4 and Note 5.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
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The speaker works great for things like giving easily-heard directions while driving in a noisy car. I've never tried listening to a phone from another room. I find they're easy to take with me--fit right in my pocket! For music, I use BT headphones.
6: The screen scratches too easily.
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Are you reporting that you've scratched it, or just repeating others' rumors?
apprentice said:
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
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I agree with the apprentice. This is exactly what I am saying about this thread as half of the things mentions are already known before purchasing or just common sense....it isn't a valid reason to then say the phone is a flop and you will be returning it.
Its fair enough to say that the battery is a let down or that the phone is scratching badly because we don't know this prior to having the handset. But to say that the glass gets fingerprints? I'm sure all glass gets finger prints unless it specifically says oleo-phobic and that its finger print proof then you don't have a case. Also to say the phone is expensive? yes it is we all know that but for some like myself i managed to get a very cheap sim only tariff and bought the phone outright. Over the course of 2 years it works out at around £35 per month which is the average for a decent handset and tariff.
It's just really number 5 - buyers remorse.
Nice burn apprentice.
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Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
Señor Sjon said:
Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
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I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
Im returning mine due to some pink spots on the right side of the screen but not for a refund but for 1 to 1 exchange
Returning mine because its much slower then my note 5. Installs literally take twice as long. It makes no sense.
apprentice said:
I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
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Oh, yes I do agree Samsung was led astray when all the reviewers were whining about plastic phones and the Hansaplast S5 wasn't the best design they could make. Yet plastic is one of the best materials for a phone. It is light, scratch resistant, doesn't block signals or wireless charging and can be made in all colors and shapes. They got it wrong with the yucky feeling S3/S4/Note 2. After the S4 slipped out of my hand again, I got the Note 3 almost as soon as it was available. The faux leather stitching on it is bad, but the back cover gets the job done. After almost three years of use it has zero scratches and it is very grippy. Same as the N4. It survives my wifes handbag for almost two years now, which is no small feat for a phone. I was waiting for the N5, but if I wanted it, it needed parallel importing. That was too much hassle for a slippery phone with no SD-card, small, non-replaceble battery and glass everywhere.
The N7 is better than the N5, but I'll need to think long and hard if and when I'm going to buy it.
I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
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How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Hi, Learn, if you listen to the naysayers on any forum you would never leave the house and certainly never make another purchase, not even have a hair cut. The Note 7 is a bloody good mobile. Buy it, experience it, if you don't like it you have 14 days to return it so someone else waiting for it can enjoy it. :highfive:
I have to say this Note 7 forum is getting silly. There are dedicated haters here who just post in nearly every thread criticising something they don't even own. Its turning to the point of hysteria on some threads. :silly:
Buy and enjoy.
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I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
May seem strange to most of you guys but the lack of IR blaster kills it for me. I use it on my note 3 all day everyday. Air-conditioning at work and at home. My TV and set top box. My fan. It's such a small piece of tech with so much use. Kind of annoys me that they took it away.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
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I bought into the hype after watching the live unveil in New York.
I was actually checking out the Nexus 6p, as I wanted a new phone with Root.
in the past Samsung phones used to be a safe bet to get root, but seems like since the S7 the game has changed.
Fast charging is as you said not fast enough, 1 hour charge to only get 60% to 70% is not much improvement over the Note 3 / Note 4 charging, somehow the way I use my phones they can drain the battery faster than it can recharge itself.
So battery packs has always been my friend, as I keep several charged battery packs ready to swap in/out.
Reason why I skipped Note 5, due the lack of battery swap. I decided to give Note 7 a try thinking it should have improved, but nope it's just exactly as I guestimated it would perform, and the educated guess was spot on.
I was not really surprised by the charge speed lack of performance, just the Advertisements, and the Unveil event made it such a huge deal that is was like WOW... but in reality it does not really deliver as advertised.
The charge speed performance is no different than previous generation, phone batteries like Note 3 and Note 4, using a normal 2A charger and a battery charger, my batteries pack are full in about 2 hours aprox same time it takes for the Note 7 using the "fast charge" to reach 100%
The so called fast charge to 50% in 30 min is bogus, I was clocking it, it was more like 45min to an Hour depending if the phone was Off or On... which is pretty much the same rate why it takes aprox 2 hours for 100% charge.
The old Notes 3/4, charges at about the same rate as Note 7, so they are just advertising the same old as new, I don't really see any real improvement over previous model.
With the removal of the option to swap battery packs since Note 5, it makes it even less appealing knowing you'll be stuck without battery until you find a plug.
In Note 3 and Note 4, you simply pop out the drained battery and pop in the 100% charged battery, downtime 60 sec at most to open back cover swap the battery and replace the back cover.
The Note 5 and Note 7 downtime ranges until you find a plug, or you carry one of those external battery top up dongles, not very appealing. I know those are very common with Apple users, and I don't like carrying those bulky USB dongles with me.
Battery life If I'm being conservative and turn off GPS, turn off Bluetooth, and turn off WiFi, I can get aprox 3 hours with Note 7, which is again about the same time I get with previous Note 3 and Note 4.
So the claim for an improved battery life is also bogus advertisement.
I still have about 7 days to keep it, if nothing changes by then, it's going back to the store.
The only nice feature I like on the Note 7 is the Iris scanner, and the 4x MIMO, actually that's the only reason the Note 7 picked my interest, I wanted to see if the 4x MIMO would improve signal quality, in poor reception areas, and it did.
so, of all the hyped propagandas during the live unveil and Ads, only the Iris scanner and 4x mimo actually performs as advertised, everything else, not so much, like the "free" game pack that is not available to people in North America >.< ...like really, advertised live during a new york event, and then they said, or sorry that's not for you.
So I have been seeing that the January update seems to have fixed a lot of issues and that it may be worth buying a 6 or 6 Pro now.
The 6 Pro's size and feature set are much more applicable to me (I have a 12 Pro Max and I'm using a Pixel 3 XL right now and I want to go back to a larger phone plus I would prefer the 12GB of RAM and 120hz display) but I'm nervous about the curved screen. I have been reading case reviews and it seems like it's rare for a rugged case (I always put Spigen Tough Armor cases on all my phones) that actually fits right (Spigen apparently doesn't).
Has anyone found one that's actually good? I think curved edges have to be the stupidest decision Google made besides teaming up with Samsung for the SoC (or at least they should have used a Qualcomm modem) but if I can get a rugged case that protects as well as a flat screen would be protected and does it without impeding the use of the screen beyond the typical pain when trying to copy and paste near the edges (man Android needs to figure that out, Apple does it miles better), I'll probably get a 6 Pro next month. Otherwise I'll just settle on the 6 or wait for the 7.
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So I have been seeing that the January update seems to have fixed a lot of issues and that it may be worth buying a 6 or 6 Pro now.
The 6 Pro's size and feature set are much more applicable to me (I have a 12 Pro Max and I'm using a Pixel 3 XL right now and I want to go back to a larger phone plus I would prefer the 12GB of RAM and 120hz display) but I'm nervous about the curved screen. I have been reading case reviews and it seems like it's rare for a rugged case (I always put Spigen Tough Armor cases on all my phones) that actually fits right (Spigen apparently doesn't).
Has anyone found one that's actually good? I think curved edges have to be the stupidest decision Google made besides teaming up with Samsung for the SoC (or at least they should have used a Qualcomm modem) but if I can get a rugged case that protects as well as a flat screen would be protected and does it without impeding the use of the screen beyond the typical pain when trying to copy and paste near the edges (man Android needs to figure that out, Apple does it miles better), I'll probably get a 6 Pro next month. Otherwise I'll just settle on the 6 or wait for the 7.
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Most cases do indeed not properly cover the curved portion, that is a design decision by the case manufacturers, since that would hamper with the swipe from the sides gesture system.
The big Otterbox cases are high enough to "properly" protect the entire screen. Smaller Spigen or Caseology cases are lowered on the sides.
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Most cases do indeed not properly cover the curved portion, that is a design decision by the case manufacturers, since that would hamper with the swipe from the sides gesture system.
The big Otterbox cases are high enough to "properly" protect the entire screen. Smaller Spigen or Caseology cases are lowered on the sides.
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This is true. It looks like the case is higher, but if you measure it with a business card, it's actually lower. I have 5 different cases (I know its weird) and none of them are higher than the curved edge (Google, Spigen, Caseology, No-name).
You will need an Otterbox or Ghostek - and even then, it will probably be less than 0.5mm higher. Just get the most rugged case you can find. Just remember that gestures will be a bit harder to use. I've never used a curved screen before and was really worried for it on my Pro, but with a case its great. makes gestures so easy.
The GHostTek Covert does a great job of covering the edges. It is one of 4 cases I have.
EtherealRemnant said:
So I have been seeing that the January update seems to have fixed a lot of issues and that it may be worth buying a 6 or 6 Pro now.
The 6 Pro's size and feature set are much more applicable to me (I have a 12 Pro Max and I'm using a Pixel 3 XL right now and I want to go back to a larger phone plus I would prefer the 12GB of RAM and 120hz display) but I'm nervous about the curved screen. I have been reading case reviews and it seems like it's rare for a rugged case (I always put Spigen Tough Armor cases on all my phones) that actually fits right (Spigen apparently doesn't).
Has anyone found one that's actually good? I think curved edges have to be the stupidest decision Google made besides teaming up with Samsung for the SoC (or at least they should have used a Qualcomm modem) but if I can get a rugged case that protects as well as a flat screen would be protected and does it without impeding the use of the screen beyond the typical pain when trying to copy and paste near the edges (man Android needs to figure that out, Apple does it miles better), I'll probably get a 6 Pro next month. Otherwise I'll just settle on the 6 or wait for the 7.
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I use a Spigen Tough Armor on the 6 Pro and it fits just fine. The top and bottom edges are raised high enough so that you can put your phone face down on a flat surface with no worries about the screen touching the surface. The lateral edges are not raised quite as high so as to no interfere with swiping, but still high enough to clear the edges of the display, just not the middle of the display (but that's where the higher-raised top & bottom edges come in to play so that the middle of the display is protected).
Also works fine with my Mowei TGSP.
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I use a Spigen Tough Armor on the 6 Pro and it fits just fine. The top and bottom edges are raised high enough so that you can put your phone face down on a flat surface with no worries about the screen touching the surface. The lateral edges are not raised quite as high so as to no interfere with swiping, but still high enough to clear the edges of the display, just not the middle of the display (but that's where the higher-raised top & bottom edges come in to play so that the middle of the display is protected).
Also works fine with my Mowei TGSP.
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I use this case also on my P6P and it works great.
+1 OtterBox Defender every time
I've been using this B Labs case on my 6 pro. B LABS Case for Google Pixel 6 Pro with Built-in Kickstand, Dual Layer Shockproof Hybrid Case for Google Pixel 6 Pro Phone 6.7 inch NO Screen Protector (Red). It extends up a little beyond the curved edges.
bellroy case are amazing for this
Thanks for all the info everyone.
I will have to look all these up but it does sound like if I want one with the kind of protection I'm used to, I should just get the regular 6, which is what I was afraid of.
I have seen too many "my screen cracked from the edge" posts about this P6P to trust that it won't be totally fragile but it sounds like such a case will interfere with normal operation of the phone so yeah.
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Thanks for all the info everyone.
I will have to look all these up but it does sound like if I want one with the kind of protection I'm used to, I should just get the regular 6, which is what I was afraid of.
I have seen too many "my screen cracked from the edge" posts about this P6P to trust that it won't be totally fragile but it sounds like such a case will interfere with normal operation of the phone so yeah.
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I would've been tempted to go for the regular 6 but I need the 512 GB of internal storage, which isn't offered on the 6. I do hate the curved displays, but it doesn't give me that much trouble even in the OtterBox Defender. I do have a WhiteStone tempered glass screen protector on it as well.
Encased Falcon for Pixel 6 Pro.
This is the case I use, raised edge on all 4 sides. Have dropped my phone a couple times from 5ish feet, zero issues thus far.
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I would've been tempted to go for the regular 6 but I need the 512 GB of internal storage, which isn't offered on the 6. I do hate the curved displays, but it doesn't give me that much trouble even in the OtterBox Defender. I do have a WhiteStone tempered glass screen protector on it as well.
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Honestly I always go for base storage models. I was thinking about getting 256GB because I want to play with that PS2 emulator, AetherSX2, but honestly I never run out of storage even on my 64GB Pixel 3 XL so anything extra is just overkill.
The 8GB vs 12GB argument doesn't even matter much since from the videos I've seen, RAM management on Android devices is still aggressive, 8GB is probably plenty fine.
It seems like many find the P6P to have worse battery life to boot. Maybe I'll just get the 6 and save the $300 plus the extra case cost over just getting a Tough Armor like always. I'm used to my Pixel 3 XL's screen size now anyway.
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Honestly I always go for base storage models. I was thinking about getting 256GB because I want to play with that PS2 emulator, AetherSX2, but honestly I never run out of storage even on my 64GB Pixel 3 XL so anything extra is just overkill.
The 8GB vs 12GB argument doesn't even matter much since from the videos I've seen, RAM management on Android devices is still aggressive, 8GB is probably plenty fine.
It seems like many find the P6P to have worse battery life to boot. Maybe I'll just get the 6 and save the $300 plus the extra case cost over just getting a Tough Armor like always. I'm used to my Pixel 3 XL's screen size now anyway.
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Makes sense. I agree about the RAM, although I'm not a gamer - at least it's few and far between and not very complex games when I do play them. I go through about 50% battery in 24 hours on my P6P, but that's just my use - everyone's use is different. I'm also gentle on my batteries for the last five years. Rarely go below 25% and only normally charge up to 75%, and never quick charge.
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Makes sense. I agree about the RAM, although I'm not a gamer - at least it's few and far between and not very complex games when I do play them. I go through about 50% battery in 24 hours on my P6P, but that's just my use - everyone's use is different. I'm also gentle on my batteries for the last five years. Rarely go below 25% and only normally charge up to 75%, and never quick charge.
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I do similar with my battery. AccuBattery is set to give me an alarm at 85% charge and I try to put it on the charger around 20%. I use the stock charger though. On nights when I have an appointment the next day I will use my old HTC charger and leave it on overnight so that my battery doesn't run out in the middle of the day.
So 50% huh? What is your SoT like? I am disabled and homebound so I use my phone a LOT... Usually 8+ hours SoT a day. My Pixel 3 XL will last about 7 on a full charge (so about 4 1/2-5 when I'm keeping to my 65% rule) which is excellent for this particular device since it's known to be a 3-4 hour deal but it results in charging twice a day. Would be great to get back to one charge a day like it was with my 12 Pro Max (12-14 hours SoT with my usage).
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I do similar with my battery. AccuBattery is set to give me an alarm at 85% charge and I try to put it on the charger around 20%. I use the stock charger though. On nights when I have an appointment the next day I will use my old HTC charger and leave it on overnight so that my battery doesn't run out in the middle of the day.
So 50% huh? What is your SoT like? I am disabled and homebound so I use my phone a LOT... Usually 8+ hours SoT a day. My Pixel 3 XL will last about 7 on a full charge (so about 4 1/2-5 when I'm keeping to my 65% rule) which is excellent for this particular device since it's known to be a 3-4 hour deal but it results in charging twice a day. Would be great to get back to one charge a day like it was with my 12 Pro Max (12-14 hours SoT with my usage).
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It was just a few hours ago I bought the Pro version of GSam Battery Monitor. I was using the free version. I used to use AccuBattery but started using GSam since I can have it alarm when it gets down to 25% also, besides the alarm for 75% (or whatever anyone wants to set them to). I can also have different sounds for each of those two notifications.
The Pro version of GSam is a separate app from the free version instead of just a license, so it seems it started from scratch, and I uninstalled the free version. I normally don't actually pay that close attention to my statistics, so I don't have numbers I can report at this time. I'll set myself a reminder for a couple of days and see what it says and let you know then.
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It was just a few hours ago I bought the Pro version of GSam Battery Monitor. I was using the free version. I used to use AccuBattery but started using GSam since I can have it alarm when it gets down to 25% also, besides the alarm for 75% (or whatever anyone wants to set them to). I can also have different sounds for each of those two notifications.
The Pro version of GSam is a separate app from the free version instead of just a license, so it seems it started from scratch, and I uninstalled the free version. I normally don't actually pay that close attention to my statistics, so I don't have numbers I can report at this time. I'll set myself a reminder for a couple of days and see what it says and let you know then.
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I didn't know GSam had that feature. I haven't used GSam since I was using my HTC U11 back in 2017, mostly because I forgot it existed. If I hadn't just bought AccuBattery this weekend, I would probably go grab it haha.
Looking forward to hearing about your battery life. I will let you know if my impulses get the better of me and I end up with either a 6 or 6 Pro lol. Trying to wait until next month or March so I can actually not put my miscellaneous spending budget in the negative but uhh, I was lying in bed sick with COVID last week and was already fighting with myself about whether to buy or not to buy one (I totally do NOT have a tech geek problem hahaha) so I'm not totally confident I'll make it, especially with how easy it would be to buy it on Amazon and charge it to my Amazon VISA with it arriving at my door the same day.
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I didn't know GSam had that feature. I haven't used GSam since I was using my HTC U11 back in 2017, mostly because I forgot it existed. If I hadn't just bought AccuBattery this weekend, I would probably go grab it haha.
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If it's within 48 hours of when you bought AccuBattery, you can still request a refund (in the Play Store, scroll to the very, very bottom and (at least if it's within the 48 hours), it'll show in light, gray text about a refund, and click here for more information, which will lead to a webpage where you can start the process. I did it twice yesterday for apps that didn't do what I was hoping they would do, but I couldn't find out without buying them. The refunds weren't approved until today, but they were approved.
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Looking forward to hearing about your battery life. I will let you know if my impulses get the better of me and I end up with either a 6 or 6 Pro lol. Trying to wait until next month or March so I can actually not put my miscellaneous spending budget in the negative but uhh, I was lying in bed sick with COVID last week and was already fighting with myself about whether to buy or not to buy one (I totally do NOT have a tech geek problem hahaha) so I'm not totally confident I'll make it, especially with how easy it would be to buy it on Amazon and charge it to my Amazon VISA with it arriving at my door the same day.
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Sure will, I've set my reminder so I look forward to giving you good news. From what I remember when I was using AccuBattery on my P6P, it estimated 12 or 13 hours of SoT.
I understand. A few months before my Pixel 1 stopped getting updates just over two years ago, I was debating on what to replace it with, or if I wanted to replace it - since Google hadn't yet come out with a 512 GB Pixel. I ended up learning I never want another Samsung (I loved my Galaxy S3 years ago), and indeed if I knew Google was going to come out with a larger storage model two years later, I would've attempted to stick with my Pixel 1.
Another vote for the Spigen Tough Armor here.
I posted in another thread about this case, but the Crave Clear Guard is the one I currently use. It actually protects the sides a pretty decent amount. Here are some pics.