Ok, so I've upgraded my ROM to try both Kavana's latest ROM, Rickywatt's v24 vanilla and v24 no opera ROM all with the same issues.
I purchased a Class-4 8GB micro-SDHC card, and loaded it up to almost full of music, and here are my symptoms:
- WMP will Play the music after 30-60 lag between clicks and songs.
- The HTC audio software won't even play a song. I get it into the library and it is incredibly slow. When I click a track to play it, the handheld practically locks.
- While a song is playing, the entire system is bogged down.
Here is what I've tried:
- I've tried putting all the music (3500 tracks) into a single "Music" folder on the card
- I've also tried putting all the music into individual folders by author which effectively reduces the amount of files in one single folder.
Any ideas? Has anyone else gotten a class 4 SDHC card of any size to work properly, or get an 8gb card to work without lagging down the system?
travis.garrison said:
Ok, so I've upgraded my ROM to try both Kavana's latest ROM, Rickywatt's v24 vanilla and v24 no opera ROM all with the same issues.
I purchased a Class-4 8GB micro-SDHC card, and loaded it up to almost full of music, and here are my symptoms:
- WMP will Play the music after 30-60 lag between clicks and songs.
- The HTC audio software won't even play a song. I get it into the library and it is incredibly slow. When I click a track to play it, the handheld practically locks.
- While a song is playing, the entire system is bogged down.
Here is what I've tried:
- I've tried putting all the music (3500 tracks) into a single "Music" folder on the card
- I've also tried putting all the music into individual folders by author which effectively reduces the amount of files in one single folder.
Any ideas? Has anyone else gotten a class 4 SDHC card of any size to work properly, or get an 8gb card to work without lagging down the system?
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All i can say is get a SanDisk not a generic.
Thanks for the input but this is a Kingston branded card. Kingston is a reputable company, and not generic in the least.
Does anyone have any advice besides "get a different card?"
My 2GB non-SDHC works fine without any lag... of course it's a smaller capacity.
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Thanks for the input but this is a Kingston branded card. Kingston is a reputable company, and not generic in the least.
Does anyone have any advice besides "get a different card?"
My 2GB non-SDHC works fine without any lag... of course it's a smaller capacity.
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Sorry just persumed that it was generic due to the problem.
Format your card to fat32.
Thanks for the suggestion on the formatting. Vista says that it's currently formatted into FAT32... It came that way from the factory, but I am thinking about reformatting it from my phone... perhaps it doesn't like the size of the FAT tables.
Ummm try formatting it through an xp computer and see if that helps.
what format are your music files? have you tried loading less then 3000+ songs...maybe 50 and see if the problem persists.
have you tried a standard 1 or 2 gig micro card?
and go get tcpmp or core player...
is anything else slow? movie file? just navigating around the phone? any lag?
Yeah, something is funny with the formatting, because when I went to delete off all but 50 or so songs I would select all of the songs, and delete them but Windows would refresh with more songs that weren't "visible" before. I am reformatting the card right now, and then I will see if 50 files works. If that works I'll proceed with more songs.
The songs are MP3 format without DRM encoded into 128kbps. They all play just fine on my 2GB card and on my Laptop.
I'll try TCPMP if those don't work.
If I am not accessing that music through a player or file explorer, then the phone is not slow or sluggish at all. I've taken pictures with the phone and have no problems there. I have not tried playing video, but I suspect it would be fine too.
I reformatted the card into FAT32 (32Kb allocation units) and put a couple hundred songs on it. It was responsive and without error, so I filled it up with music and here is what I get now:
- Windows Media Player will play the songs but with a 30-60 second delay between button presses (play/pause, next back)
- HTC Audio Manager locks and exits to the home screen when a song is clicked on to play (after about 10 sec).
-TCPMP will run and add all of the songs to the playlist, and switches songs with only a short (4 sec) delay between songs.
Even though TCPMP runs acceptably, I consider this only a workaround. Does anyone else have ideas about how to get the HTC Audio Manager working? I am running Rickywatt's Vanilla v24 ROM of WM 6.1...
This is probably content for another post but I was surprised that the vanilla ROM isn't very vanilla. It still has a lot of software imbedded into the ROM.
I've noticed a similar problem myself with my Dash.
I recently got an 8 GB Sandisk class 4 microSDHC card for my Dash (Ricky's rom) with the intention of using it (in tandem with my Jabra 8010 bt stereo headset) as my main music player.
I only have 739 songs on it right now (less than half full) and here's what I've found:
-Windows Media Player has several problems:
---MAJOR lag (30 sec.) when switching tracks, bringing up the menu, etc.
---Tags in the library are messed up. I might end up with 3 album listings for the same album, some tracks are not associated with their albums or artists, etc.
-HTC Audio Manager works great! No lag at all between tracks and correctly reads all my tags (even the ones that WMP messes up).
-TCPMP works good, no problems with it, it's interface is just not optimal for music listening at all. It just crashes the phone whenever I try to blank the screen.
-Pocket Tunes is a wonderful player. It works great with no problems and has great playlist support. It has been my favorite music player on my Palm OS devices for many years; sadly, my trial period is ending soon for the WM version and I really can't justify spending the $37.95 for it.
So, in short, I'm using HTC's Audio Manager for now because WMP is so horribly slow. I just wish that it had a way to blank the screen like WMP does.
I do remember WMP working great when I had my smaller card, so is it just a problem with the library size?
After doing some more testing, and TCPMP isn't as bug free as I thought. I have to create and save a playlist of all the songs, then open TCPMP from that playlist for it to work... otherwise it loads for like 5 minutes and crashes the phone.
I did get HTC Audio manager to work, but that's only from a fresh reboot of the phone and it only works until I exit the app. Here is my guess unless someone else comes up with a better answer:
- WM 6.1 on a 186MHz processor isn't going to be able to quickly index and deliver the 3500+ songs on the 8GB card... This would explain why 400 songs worked fine.
- Perhaps there is a buffer size limit or some other registry hack that can be done to make the file indexing work better for large directories.
youre gonna have to accept that wmp is kinda junk
and tcpmp is the champ.
Ok, I can buy that, but it still doesn't help that TCPMP and Audio Manager still aren't working to the capacity that I need them to.
I'd say Windows Media Player is the problem. However, what's bit rate of you mp3? 320k? Have you tried lower bit rate? Or, even encode with WMA? I know, re-encoding sounds like a big job, do it over night while you're sleeping...
Good point. All of the files are already 128kbps encoded. Also, the problems are existing in more than just WMP. It is also a problem in TCPMP and HTC Audio Manager.
Lately I have been playing around with cooking my own version of The Rose 1.6 ROM that Stylez and Rickwyatt are working on. All I'm doing is removing files and programs that I don't use. It seems like the more I remove, the less of a delay I experience on the song loading and playing. I think the issue is with the amount of memory available.
Guys,
My phone, WM 6.1, HTC S621, does accept my SDHC 4gb card, but it doesnt play anything thru player! I've tried core player, htc audio manage, windows media player, no luck.. =(
There's no problem with the speak on the phone, it works perfectly.. Can anyone help me? Anyone encountered such problem?
Thank you
===Update===
The card works with with tmobile wing, no problem.
Both phones have WM 6.1, in both the card is recognized.. But there's no sound coming out of htc s621.. sigh..
Hi guys,
Since a few weeks I own an HTC Touch Pro 2 running Win ME 6.1. It's a company phone, bought separately (so not combined with an operator contract). I'm running it almost freshly "out of the box" with just one additional application (TomTom) installed to it.
I bought an 8 gb uSDHC flash card, and put 1g of TomTom maps and about 3g of MP3 music on it. The most mp3's are 320 kbit cbr. Please do not start a discussion whether this is useless on a phone or not; the music comes from my central library from where I feed a lot of different media devices like an iPhone, some software mediaplayers, an old iPod, a Windows (Vista) Media Center and a Logitech Squeezebox. None of these devices give problems, only the HTC Touch Pro 2 phone is giving me a headache.
To these mp3's I have attached artwork, using MediaMonkey. I thought that would give a nice look to the music app., as it allows to browse through the music library showing this art.
But! The music players goes berzerk. It leaves me waiting for hours and hours ("searching"). But even one NIGHT (10 hours or so) of searching won't give me the complete library. The artwork does not match the music, sometimes all songs have the same artwork and the player won't browse through the music (not with the up/down software buttons on the left and not with the 'sweep' move). Sometimes it starts to browse by itself, giving me a minutelong show of coverart (but without music). If I succeed to start a song to play, playback sometimes gets interrupted at random times (and sometimes not, playing the song perfectly).
What a mess.
When I play the same music from the same source using the Windows Media app. on the phone, I have no problem at all. Within 20 seconds the library is updated, coverart is shown and the music plays and can be browsed without any delay or interuption.
Things I've tried:
1) Resetting the phone;
2) Renaming the file Audiomanager_Eng which is in Application data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng, then resetting the phone, then deleting the renamed file and start a new library search (by starting the music app);
3) Formatting the uSDHC card and rewriting the content to it, followed by step 2);
4) Formatting the uSDHC card with a different blocksize (I tried 1k, 4k, 16k and 64k, doesn't seem to make a lot of difference) and rewriting the content to it, followed by step 2);
5) Testing the content of the uSDHC card in the different states while working on step 4), by playing the music directly from the uSDHC card in Windows Vista on a host computer. No problem at all: Coverart was shown and music played flawless;
6) Copying part of the the content of the uSDHC card to an iPhone and playing the music on it. No problem at all: Coverart was shown and music played flawless;
7) Removing the largest coverart and replacing it with smaller images. The largest remaining coverart is approx. 500 kb (5 jpg's of 100 kb each). Again, this is no problem with any of my other music devices.
Who recognises these problems and even more important, who has the solution?
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I got the same albumart for almost all my music, the problem is its a picture that copied to all songs by itself!
On my 8GB SDHC SanDisk I got about 2GB of music - I can flip through the songs with the softkeys and with the 'sweep' move but they all have the same (anoying) picture...
Edit: What I forgot: On my SDHC there is always a hidden file named 'hTC_AM_AlbumArt.jpg' showing this specific Albumart that is shown for all songs - even if the songs have different Albumarts on my Desktop (just copied them from the SD to proof the Arts are still there)
Additionally, I have removed all coverart except the front cover. So each mp3 now only has 1 jpg attached. Result: The problem that all songs have the same cover has become much worse. Almost every song has the same cover now.
This thing drives me mad;-(
I can't believe no one else has this problem. Anyone?
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I got the same albumart for almost all my music, the problem is its a picture that copied to all songs by itself!
On my 8GB SDHC SanDisk I got about 2GB of music - I can flip through the songs with the softkeys and with the 'sweep' move but they all have the same (anoying) picture...
Edit: What I forgot: On my SDHC there is always a hidden file named 'hTC_AM_AlbumArt.jpg' showing this specific Albumart that is shown for all songs - even if the songs have different Albumarts on my Desktop (just copied them from the SD to proof the Arts are still there)
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Hi there, try to delete that file, activate the music player, take out the SDHC card, wait until the mp says "no music" and insert the card again. This gave me approx 98% of the covers. Still some tracks don't swow their own covers, I'm clueless on the reason for that.
Does this work for you?
I might have found something.
It seems like coverart is linked to the album tag and not to the title or artist (or a combination of those) tag.
The hidden file you're referring to seems like a default image which is shown when there's no image found with the same name as the album.
Would you please check your library and tell me if you have missing album tags?
I have a VZW TP2 with a stock rom. I can play music all day with any program as long as I have the screen on (CorePlayer, Windows Media and Slide 2 Play). When I attempt to play music with the screen off using Touch Diamond screen off program (psShutXP), the music continues for awhile then shuts off when switching to the next song. I tried a hard reset. Problem persists. This is weird becuase I could play music all day long with the screen off about a week and half ago. I dont know what happen.
All music is stored on an 8gb lexar class 4 card. Had the same problem with my old 8gb sandisk card before it died around the same time the problem surfaced.
I am not running touchflo
Thanks
In Manila 2.5 ROMs I get problems using the Audio Manager tab. After betwen 20-90 seconds of playing a song it stops and the only way to get it playing again is to restart the song. This is stopping me from using any 2.5 ROMs and is driving me nuts. I have tried multiple memory cards but no luck.
If someone can provide a working solution I will send $20 to the magician who can make it happen.
Thanks!
NOW SOLVED: some of the MP3 files were causing the problem. Deleted and put them back on one by to one to identify the problem files.
So I've dragged and dropped music onto my Epic. I put it in the Media folder of my SD Card. My epic will play all music, expect for songs from a single artist. It baffles me! There's nothing that separates it from the rest of my music. Same format (both m4a and mp3), it plays both formats for every other artist, Protected or not, except for this single one. Even more baffling, my Epic will randomly decide to not recognize ANY music, both mp3 AND m4a. I don't understand it :/ I won't notice it until I see that my phone is ringing but no ringtone, b/c I have Windowlicker as my ringtone. So on multiple occasions, I would go to my music player and it would literally go through every single song and display that disappointing "File not supported" message. I reboot my phone and it's fine again, with the exception of that one artist. Anyone got a fix for this or at the very least tell me why this is happening? I'm running my Epic on SRF 1.1.
Just had this happen to me today. I ran through a few things and it fixed itself...I uninstalled Voodoo Sound control...reboot...fixed permissions...reboot...and then another reboot due to some goofy lock up with my airplane mode. Started working again. Running Bonsai 4.01. The odd thing is that it was ALL music apps...Amazon MP3 and Poweramp too.
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So I've dragged and dropped music onto my Epic. I put it in the Media folder of my SD Card. My epic will play all music, expect for songs from a single artist. It baffles me! There's nothing that separates it from the rest of my music. Same format (both m4a and mp3), it plays both formats for every other artist, Protected or not, except for this single one. Even more baffling, my Epic will randomly decide to not recognize ANY music, both mp3 AND m4a. I don't understand it :/ I won't notice it until I see that my phone is ringing but no ringtone, b/c I have Windowlicker as my ringtone. So on multiple occasions, I would go to my music player and it would literally go through every single song and display that disappointing "File not supported" message. I reboot my phone and it's fine again, with the exception of that one artist. Anyone got a fix for this or at the very least tell me why this is happening? I'm running my Epic on SRF 1.1.
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Maybe try installing the "My files" app. Flash the attached through clockwork and see if that helps.