Hi guys,
Since a few weeks I own an HTC Touch Pro 2 running Win ME 6.1. It's a company phone, bought separately (so not combined with an operator contract). I'm running it almost freshly "out of the box" with just one additional application (TomTom) installed to it.
I bought an 8 gb uSDHC flash card, and put 1g of TomTom maps and about 3g of MP3 music on it. The most mp3's are 320 kbit cbr. Please do not start a discussion whether this is useless on a phone or not; the music comes from my central library from where I feed a lot of different media devices like an iPhone, some software mediaplayers, an old iPod, a Windows (Vista) Media Center and a Logitech Squeezebox. None of these devices give problems, only the HTC Touch Pro 2 phone is giving me a headache.
To these mp3's I have attached artwork, using MediaMonkey. I thought that would give a nice look to the music app., as it allows to browse through the music library showing this art.
But! The music players goes berzerk. It leaves me waiting for hours and hours ("searching"). But even one NIGHT (10 hours or so) of searching won't give me the complete library. The artwork does not match the music, sometimes all songs have the same artwork and the player won't browse through the music (not with the up/down software buttons on the left and not with the 'sweep' move). Sometimes it starts to browse by itself, giving me a minutelong show of coverart (but without music). If I succeed to start a song to play, playback sometimes gets interrupted at random times (and sometimes not, playing the song perfectly).
What a mess.
When I play the same music from the same source using the Windows Media app. on the phone, I have no problem at all. Within 20 seconds the library is updated, coverart is shown and the music plays and can be browsed without any delay or interuption.
Things I've tried:
1) Resetting the phone;
2) Renaming the file Audiomanager_Eng which is in Application data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng, then resetting the phone, then deleting the renamed file and start a new library search (by starting the music app);
3) Formatting the uSDHC card and rewriting the content to it, followed by step 2);
4) Formatting the uSDHC card with a different blocksize (I tried 1k, 4k, 16k and 64k, doesn't seem to make a lot of difference) and rewriting the content to it, followed by step 2);
5) Testing the content of the uSDHC card in the different states while working on step 4), by playing the music directly from the uSDHC card in Windows Vista on a host computer. No problem at all: Coverart was shown and music played flawless;
6) Copying part of the the content of the uSDHC card to an iPhone and playing the music on it. No problem at all: Coverart was shown and music played flawless;
7) Removing the largest coverart and replacing it with smaller images. The largest remaining coverart is approx. 500 kb (5 jpg's of 100 kb each). Again, this is no problem with any of my other music devices.
Who recognises these problems and even more important, who has the solution?
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I got the same albumart for almost all my music, the problem is its a picture that copied to all songs by itself!
On my 8GB SDHC SanDisk I got about 2GB of music - I can flip through the songs with the softkeys and with the 'sweep' move but they all have the same (anoying) picture...
Edit: What I forgot: On my SDHC there is always a hidden file named 'hTC_AM_AlbumArt.jpg' showing this specific Albumart that is shown for all songs - even if the songs have different Albumarts on my Desktop (just copied them from the SD to proof the Arts are still there)
Additionally, I have removed all coverart except the front cover. So each mp3 now only has 1 jpg attached. Result: The problem that all songs have the same cover has become much worse. Almost every song has the same cover now.
This thing drives me mad;-(
I can't believe no one else has this problem. Anyone?
Mad Marc said:
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I got the same albumart for almost all my music, the problem is its a picture that copied to all songs by itself!
On my 8GB SDHC SanDisk I got about 2GB of music - I can flip through the songs with the softkeys and with the 'sweep' move but they all have the same (anoying) picture...
Edit: What I forgot: On my SDHC there is always a hidden file named 'hTC_AM_AlbumArt.jpg' showing this specific Albumart that is shown for all songs - even if the songs have different Albumarts on my Desktop (just copied them from the SD to proof the Arts are still there)
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Hi there, try to delete that file, activate the music player, take out the SDHC card, wait until the mp says "no music" and insert the card again. This gave me approx 98% of the covers. Still some tracks don't swow their own covers, I'm clueless on the reason for that.
Does this work for you?
I might have found something.
It seems like coverart is linked to the album tag and not to the title or artist (or a combination of those) tag.
The hidden file you're referring to seems like a default image which is shown when there's no image found with the same name as the album.
Would you please check your library and tell me if you have missing album tags?
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Hello!
I've experienced this problem before:
when I add some mp3 files to a memory card (using usb card reader), Audio Manager finds songs just fine, however once I click on any of the songs from libriary, after 5 seconds of doing nothing I see a white screen with list of running programs to chose to kill. I have to remove memory card out of the phone and then chose and close audio manager (twice) in order to bring phone to life. Otherwise I have to reboot it.
Before I was suspecting mp3s, maybe they were broken, but today, when this happened, I removed all newly added mp3s and left these that were before but this problem stayed.
Last time I had this problem I had to reformat memory card, no matter what I added on it Audio Manager would freeze whole phone...
Anyone knows why this happening?
Thank you.
Hey, i've only ever noticed this when i've got lots of other stuff open and Audiomanager cant handle the MP3 aswell, or when i'm trying to play 320kbps mp3's.
Yes, that would make sence - not enough free ram, however in my case, this happens even after reboot and last time with 128kbps files...
Ok, so I've upgraded my ROM to try both Kavana's latest ROM, Rickywatt's v24 vanilla and v24 no opera ROM all with the same issues.
I purchased a Class-4 8GB micro-SDHC card, and loaded it up to almost full of music, and here are my symptoms:
- WMP will Play the music after 30-60 lag between clicks and songs.
- The HTC audio software won't even play a song. I get it into the library and it is incredibly slow. When I click a track to play it, the handheld practically locks.
- While a song is playing, the entire system is bogged down.
Here is what I've tried:
- I've tried putting all the music (3500 tracks) into a single "Music" folder on the card
- I've also tried putting all the music into individual folders by author which effectively reduces the amount of files in one single folder.
Any ideas? Has anyone else gotten a class 4 SDHC card of any size to work properly, or get an 8gb card to work without lagging down the system?
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Ok, so I've upgraded my ROM to try both Kavana's latest ROM, Rickywatt's v24 vanilla and v24 no opera ROM all with the same issues.
I purchased a Class-4 8GB micro-SDHC card, and loaded it up to almost full of music, and here are my symptoms:
- WMP will Play the music after 30-60 lag between clicks and songs.
- The HTC audio software won't even play a song. I get it into the library and it is incredibly slow. When I click a track to play it, the handheld practically locks.
- While a song is playing, the entire system is bogged down.
Here is what I've tried:
- I've tried putting all the music (3500 tracks) into a single "Music" folder on the card
- I've also tried putting all the music into individual folders by author which effectively reduces the amount of files in one single folder.
Any ideas? Has anyone else gotten a class 4 SDHC card of any size to work properly, or get an 8gb card to work without lagging down the system?
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All i can say is get a SanDisk not a generic.
Thanks for the input but this is a Kingston branded card. Kingston is a reputable company, and not generic in the least.
Does anyone have any advice besides "get a different card?"
My 2GB non-SDHC works fine without any lag... of course it's a smaller capacity.
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Thanks for the input but this is a Kingston branded card. Kingston is a reputable company, and not generic in the least.
Does anyone have any advice besides "get a different card?"
My 2GB non-SDHC works fine without any lag... of course it's a smaller capacity.
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Sorry just persumed that it was generic due to the problem.
Format your card to fat32.
Thanks for the suggestion on the formatting. Vista says that it's currently formatted into FAT32... It came that way from the factory, but I am thinking about reformatting it from my phone... perhaps it doesn't like the size of the FAT tables.
Ummm try formatting it through an xp computer and see if that helps.
what format are your music files? have you tried loading less then 3000+ songs...maybe 50 and see if the problem persists.
have you tried a standard 1 or 2 gig micro card?
and go get tcpmp or core player...
is anything else slow? movie file? just navigating around the phone? any lag?
Yeah, something is funny with the formatting, because when I went to delete off all but 50 or so songs I would select all of the songs, and delete them but Windows would refresh with more songs that weren't "visible" before. I am reformatting the card right now, and then I will see if 50 files works. If that works I'll proceed with more songs.
The songs are MP3 format without DRM encoded into 128kbps. They all play just fine on my 2GB card and on my Laptop.
I'll try TCPMP if those don't work.
If I am not accessing that music through a player or file explorer, then the phone is not slow or sluggish at all. I've taken pictures with the phone and have no problems there. I have not tried playing video, but I suspect it would be fine too.
I reformatted the card into FAT32 (32Kb allocation units) and put a couple hundred songs on it. It was responsive and without error, so I filled it up with music and here is what I get now:
- Windows Media Player will play the songs but with a 30-60 second delay between button presses (play/pause, next back)
- HTC Audio Manager locks and exits to the home screen when a song is clicked on to play (after about 10 sec).
-TCPMP will run and add all of the songs to the playlist, and switches songs with only a short (4 sec) delay between songs.
Even though TCPMP runs acceptably, I consider this only a workaround. Does anyone else have ideas about how to get the HTC Audio Manager working? I am running Rickywatt's Vanilla v24 ROM of WM 6.1...
This is probably content for another post but I was surprised that the vanilla ROM isn't very vanilla. It still has a lot of software imbedded into the ROM.
I've noticed a similar problem myself with my Dash.
I recently got an 8 GB Sandisk class 4 microSDHC card for my Dash (Ricky's rom) with the intention of using it (in tandem with my Jabra 8010 bt stereo headset) as my main music player.
I only have 739 songs on it right now (less than half full) and here's what I've found:
-Windows Media Player has several problems:
---MAJOR lag (30 sec.) when switching tracks, bringing up the menu, etc.
---Tags in the library are messed up. I might end up with 3 album listings for the same album, some tracks are not associated with their albums or artists, etc.
-HTC Audio Manager works great! No lag at all between tracks and correctly reads all my tags (even the ones that WMP messes up).
-TCPMP works good, no problems with it, it's interface is just not optimal for music listening at all. It just crashes the phone whenever I try to blank the screen.
-Pocket Tunes is a wonderful player. It works great with no problems and has great playlist support. It has been my favorite music player on my Palm OS devices for many years; sadly, my trial period is ending soon for the WM version and I really can't justify spending the $37.95 for it.
So, in short, I'm using HTC's Audio Manager for now because WMP is so horribly slow. I just wish that it had a way to blank the screen like WMP does.
I do remember WMP working great when I had my smaller card, so is it just a problem with the library size?
After doing some more testing, and TCPMP isn't as bug free as I thought. I have to create and save a playlist of all the songs, then open TCPMP from that playlist for it to work... otherwise it loads for like 5 minutes and crashes the phone.
I did get HTC Audio manager to work, but that's only from a fresh reboot of the phone and it only works until I exit the app. Here is my guess unless someone else comes up with a better answer:
- WM 6.1 on a 186MHz processor isn't going to be able to quickly index and deliver the 3500+ songs on the 8GB card... This would explain why 400 songs worked fine.
- Perhaps there is a buffer size limit or some other registry hack that can be done to make the file indexing work better for large directories.
youre gonna have to accept that wmp is kinda junk
and tcpmp is the champ.
Ok, I can buy that, but it still doesn't help that TCPMP and Audio Manager still aren't working to the capacity that I need them to.
I'd say Windows Media Player is the problem. However, what's bit rate of you mp3? 320k? Have you tried lower bit rate? Or, even encode with WMA? I know, re-encoding sounds like a big job, do it over night while you're sleeping...
Good point. All of the files are already 128kbps encoded. Also, the problems are existing in more than just WMP. It is also a problem in TCPMP and HTC Audio Manager.
Lately I have been playing around with cooking my own version of The Rose 1.6 ROM that Stylez and Rickwyatt are working on. All I'm doing is removing files and programs that I don't use. It seems like the more I remove, the less of a delay I experience on the song loading and playing. I think the issue is with the amount of memory available.
Guys,
My phone, WM 6.1, HTC S621, does accept my SDHC 4gb card, but it doesnt play anything thru player! I've tried core player, htc audio manage, windows media player, no luck.. =(
There's no problem with the speak on the phone, it works perfectly.. Can anyone help me? Anyone encountered such problem?
Thank you
===Update===
The card works with with tmobile wing, no problem.
Both phones have WM 6.1, in both the card is recognized.. But there's no sound coming out of htc s621.. sigh..
Sorry for the new thread, I've tried posting this question in another thread with no answer. I also (first thing I did) tried searching for my problem all over these forums and the web, with no real findings.
I'm having a huge problem with TF3D's music panel. Everytime I click to play a track, it plays about 3-5 seconds of the track, then just stops. All softkeys still work, and if I try pausing/playing, it repeats. All tracks I've tried. It also doesn't list all the music (all music stored on microSD under same folder). All the songs play fine under WMP on the phone (as well as all other devices obviously). Any help???
tmotp2jc said:
Sorry for the new thread, I've tried posting this question in another thread with no answer. I also (first thing I did) tried searching for my problem all over these forums and the web, with no real findings.
I'm having a huge problem with TF3D's music panel. Everytime I click to play a track, it plays about 3-5 seconds of the track, then just stops. All softkeys still work, and if I try pausing/playing, it repeats. All tracks I've tried. It also doesn't list all the music (all music stored on microSD under same folder). All the songs play fine under WMP on the phone (as well as all other devices obviously). Any help???
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dont worry your not the only one im experiencing the problem too man
wow that's very weird i'm using the photon rom and i'm listening to my music right now. it has all of my songs and it plays the full length.
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wow that's very weird i'm using the photon rom and i'm listening to my music right now. it has all of my songs and it plays the full length.
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Are your files on the microSD card (I'm assuming so, just want to verify). What type of files are they (.wma .mp3 .aac etc) maybe we can narrow this down. I'm recently liberated from iTunes, so a lot of my files are in aac (drm-free) format, so maybe I have to convert straight to mp3????
Sounds very strange, I think the reason not many people have replied is that they dont experience this issue.
I have played music on my unbranded TP2 with the stock rom and then many custom roms all without any problem.
Sorry I know that doesnt help you...
I am playing mp3's from the memory card.
Have you tried to copy the file to the internal memory and play it from there? Perhaps you memorycard is too slow?
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Are your files on the microSD card (I'm assuming so, just want to verify). What type of files are they (.wma .mp3 .aac etc) maybe we can narrow this down. I'm recently liberated from iTunes, so a lot of my files are in aac (drm-free) format, so maybe I have to convert straight to mp3????
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yeah they are on my micro sd. they are mp3 i would post a ringtone but i only have spanish music lol
The issue I'm having is that not all my mp3's (which are all in the same directory on the SD card) are showing up, only about 15 of the 50 mp3's I have show.
Everything shows fine in the Windows Media Player though. Just not the TF3D interface
I'm starting to think it may be the fact that my music is AAC format....ugh...that's just way too much converting.......
rajuabju said:
The issue I'm having is that not all my mp3's (which are all in the same directory on the SD card) are showing up, only about 15 of the 50 mp3's I have show.
Everything shows fine in the Windows Media Player though. Just not the TF3D interface
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i wish i really knew what's going on there. i have 140 mp3 songs and it shows them all :/ the only thing that sucks for me is that it's displaying the same album cover for all artist.
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i wish i really knew what's going on there. i have 140 mp3 songs and it shows them all :/ the only thing that sucks for me is that it's displaying the same album cover for all artist.
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Funny, I get the different album covers for different artists!
Anyhow, I'm going to delete all the SD card files, and edit the various ID tags and see if thats the issue. I think it may be that they are being read incorrectly.
I had this issue when using the Leo build from NRG, only played a few seconds of song for me and sometimes it would just freeze and not play anything. Im using Photon now and all music plays fine
Hi:
I have all my music stored on SD card. I sync it with Windows Media Player. All songs appear normally in Windows Media Player and when I use Files Explorer on Tilt 2 to view the songs on SD card.
My problem is, when I use the music player in TF3D, and look at library/songs, many songs appear twice. The really odd part is that a song may appear once with album art (which all my songs have), and a second instance with no album art.
When I play songs on the music tab in TF3D both instances of the song play. What I mean is, sometimes a song will show with album art, and sometimes the one without album art shows. The same is true if I edit a song title etc through Windows Media Player (I believe it is version 11). A song will show as the pre-edited version sometimes, other times it shows the edited version.
Any ideas? This is really driving me nuts.
Thanks!
I have a similar problem - but possibly the opposite to yours.
I have approx. 15Gb of music on the MicroSD on my TP2, and regularly use Windows Media Player to sync new music to the phone. However, Windows Media Player appears to sync ALL the music BACK to the PC as well - meaning I have each song duplicated on the PC (sometimes many times), which is rapidly filling up my hard drive unless I periodically manually delete all duplicates (which is painful).
I'm sure there must be a setting within Windows Media Player to stop this happening - but I still want to be able to sync music TO the phone (just not back).
Has anyone else encountered this issue or know a solution?
Does anyone know if some OS or hardware incompatibility has cropped up recently between the S3 and itunes?
I have been using DoubleTwist to play itunes music for about four years, first on an HTC G2 and latterly on an S3. I transfer the music using DT's approved methods, either by using a USB stick or by putting the SD card back into the G2 to do the transfer. The next time I restart the device, android indexes the card, with the red vertical scan.
Recently I have noticed increasingly erratic indexing of the music. I play mostly classical and jazz CDs ripped into itunes. I now have about 34 GB of music on the SD card. When I transfer music I expect DT to rebuild its indices to reflect what is now on the SD card. When it doesn't, there is a procedure for fully rebuilding indices. But the indices have become increasingly buggy recently and now I suppose that of the 34 GB of music, only about 29GB makes it onto the card and only about 10-15% actually plays. In addition, re-indexing is supposed to iron out bugs but when I index or re-index, even more problems crop up, such as duplication of CDs, with one CD sometimes spanning up to three entries in DT and tracks on the CD being sprayed over the three entries. Occasionally a single CD set may have all tracks in one CD entry (usually entitled 'VARIOUS ARTISTS') which doesn't play, while another one which identifies the artists may have tracks 1,7 and 9 while the third has 2, 5 and 18-24.
As a cross-check DT's people had me install CloudPlay to see how it dealt with artwork. It did a much better job in one or two indexing passes than DT itself and now shows most artwork (and quickly too) but also wont play much more than 15% of what took about three days (??) to record onto the SD card. Interestingly the indexing for artwork is a CloudPlay indexing
I do get the impression that android isn't doing a particularly serious job of indexing the card, with total passes of the card sometimes lasting 20 seconds, sometimes up to five minutes but with the results equally unreliable. (Yes, I have discovered that you have to attend to index rebuilding on both the S3 as well as the SD card when you try to rebuild)
Does anyone who uses iTunes to rip CDs have any idea what is causing this please or is there some other acknowledged way of playing iTunes CD music on a Galaxy S3?