Them clever, clever MS boys...LOL - Windows Phone 7 General

Looks like a win for MS and for all WP7 users content with a closed system:
Nuh uh...no you don't!

No evidence to suggest it's MS, just the ramblings of some paranoid and suspicious forum users started that rumour.
WithinRafael confirms it is not MS.

hounsell said:
No evidence to suggest it's MS, just the ramblings of some paranoid and suspicious forum users started that rumour.
WithinRafael confirms it is not MS.
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Hmmm....could be.

Well, I had posted that my phone was getting errors and telling me to uninstall the side-loaded apps when I tried to run them. I had not used the chevron tool to re-lock the phone, so naturally I thought ms had done something to get rid of the homebrew apps. It was not until someone here just said you're phone is locked, just re-unlock it. So I did, and i am now able to load homebrew apps. I have not yet plugged my phone back into the computer since I've re-loaded the homebrews.. So I'm not sure if it will re-lock again, or if this was just a quirk.
But as I read the sticky in this forum... Its not ms doing this.

voodooutt said:
Well, I had posted that my phone was getting errors and telling me to uninstall the side-loaded apps when I tried to run them. I had not used the chevron tool to re-lock the phone, so naturally I thought ms had done something to get rid of the homebrew apps. It was not until someone here just said you're phone is locked, just re-unlock it. So I did, and i am now able to load homebrew apps. I have not yet plugged my phone back into the computer since I've re-loaded the homebrews.. So I'm not sure if it will re-lock again, or if this was just a quirk.
But as I read the sticky in this forum... Its not ms doing this.
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Man! You took all the fun outta imagining the hackers getting all steamed up and having a fire lit under their butts...

An update about this is available on the ChevronWP7 blog. Thanks for not going nutso

Please post non developmental posts in the General section.
~~Tito~~

WithinRafael said:
An update about this is available on the ChevronWP7 blog. Thanks for not going nutso
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Exactly! Therefore, thread closed

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Marketplace

I don't get it.
If I use the Android XDA app, the Marketplace is visible in General. Using a real browser however, it's not. A quick search for a link into the Marketplace rears a permissions error. And all of this without being registered. So what gives? Something I'm missing here?
nevezen said:
I don't get it.
If I use the Android XDA app, the Marketplace is visible in General. Using a real browser however, it's not. A quick search for a link into the Marketplace rears a permissions error. And all of this without being registered. So what gives? Something I'm missing here?
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what phone your using?
Oh, so it's now visible. After glancing through the rules/disclaimer it appears it'll become accessible after 8 posts for a noobjuice member. Clever.
nevezen said:
Oh, so it's now visible. After glancing through the rules/disclaimer it appears it'll become accessible after 8 posts for a noobjuice member. Clever.
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Good idea to read the Forum FAQ'S there is a lot in there that will help you
nevezen said:
I don't get it.
If I use the Android XDA app, the Marketplace is visible in General. Using a real browser however, it's not. A quick search for a link into the Marketplace rears a permissions error. And all of this without being registered. So what gives? Something I'm missing here?
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You need more posts and/or a longer membership (I can't recall the details).
Guess the Tapatalk app needs fixing .
Dave
nevezen said:
I don't get it.
If I use the Android XDA app, the Marketplace is visible in General. Using a real browser however, it's not. A quick search for a link into the Marketplace rears a permissions error. And all of this without being registered. So what gives? Something I'm missing here?
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It's not the app...we've changed the permission on the Marketplace to not allow access to a user until he/she has made 8 posts. That 8 post level is also the same point at which you can post links. It's just an anti-spam measure. We found people were registering at XDA just to spam the site or the Marketplace. This helps.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
This is good to know. Long time lurker and finally signed up so I could post in the marketplace but alas!
Can someone link to the rules for gaining access to the Marketplace? I have 8 posts but still cannot see it. Tried logging out and back in but still nothing
For a while there I thought I needed to check my eye sight. Makes sense now.
Hard to achieve 8 post if you have nothing to say or to discuss or if everything is so well explained that you do not need answers
Maybe you could add a waiting time also. Lets say after 4 weeks you get to see the market, I highly doubt anyone would wait 4 weeks just to spam something.
It doesn't make sense that you can view the Marketplace before you sign up (and then have it dissapear after you are a member).
oh!! so thats why i couldnt c the marketplace
I am new here. it seem that this is an useful forum.
welcome to forums
Once you become an active/regula user all XDA features will be unlocked and you will be able to post in marketplace, this rule is to protect us from spammers/scammers
Ah I was wondering why I wasn't able to see that deal I saw anymore... guess I'm off to ask more questions.
I have been on the site reading for 6 months now trying not to poste but now i need to use the market so here is my 8th poste thanks.
sweepstakes said:
It doesn't make sense that you can view the Marketplace before you sign up (and then have it dissapear after you are a member).
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Lol. Non-members can't see the marketplace anymore.
Trust me to say too much
As I said before:
Once you become regular/active members will see the benefit of having this
Meantime post and you´ll finally get access
Nice
Really smart security measure! I like it.
--XPiemaster
as long as its for security im all for it

Search no longer working?

Hi,
yesterday I wanted to list all my posts. I went to the tab called statistics and hit the link "display all posts" but I got an error that search is down for 5 minutes and that I should retry in 10 minutes.
I did, but same error.
Trying today, I still get this error - any ideas?
We put in place a limit on the number of searches that can be performed within a given period. We were finding that some users were exploiting the search, causing site slowness. So, we had to do something about it =D.
yes but it says try again in 10min and you wait 10min and then it still doesn't let you search is the issue.
sgt. slaughter said:
yes but it says try again in 10min and you wait 10min and then it still doesn't let you search is the issue.
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Replied to your other post. Basically in 10 min, you may or may not be able to use it, depending on how many people are actually using the feature at the time.
svetius said:
We put in place a limit on the number of searches that can be performed within a given period. We were finding that some users were exploiting the search, causing site slowness. So, we had to do something about it =D.
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Sorry svetius, but this is bad. Problem is, finding something is a two step process:
1. Find the correct thread (at leat one or more search to nail it).
2. Find the related post within the thread (again, more searchs).
We have lots of threads with hundreds, some with thousands of pages, it is impossible to NOT use search here, lots of them.
When i close some irrelevant threads im used to say " Use Search"...now what i will say to them?
svetius said:
We put in place a limit on the number of searches that can be performed within a given period. We were finding that some users were exploiting the search, causing site slowness. So, we had to do something about it =D.
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af974 said:
When i close some irrelevant threads im used to say " Use Search"...now what i will say to them?
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Use Google?
Instead of doing this kind of thing, start from things that will not hurt our regular users, like disallowing guest access. Right now, there are more guests than registered users browsing the forum, creating an unnecessary burden on the system.
egzthunder1 said:
Replied to your other post. Basically in 10 min, you may or may not be able to use it, depending on how many people are actually using the feature at the time.
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Then this should be explained in the message you get when trying to search then if this is in fact the case.
Now to be honest i understand needing to help speed up the site but this seems a little extreme and is going to cause the site to have more and more already redundant posts form people asking questions about things they could of found out by simply searching because they couldn't. resorting to having to search via google isn't the answer in the end, if thats the case search should just be disabled to begin with.
I do agree with disallowing non members the ability to search in hopes that us registered members can then be freed up to use it more freely.
Feed the beast...Hardware...more Hardware...
Oh and a good DBA that can tune the search engine would also be of help.
Love the site, except I can't search for anything.
bsinclair said:
Instead of doing this kind of thing, start from things that will not hurt our regular users, like disallowing guest access. Right now, there are more guests than registered users browsing the forum, creating an unnecessary burden on the system.
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Yes, Jesus Christ this is annoying. How was I ever exploiting the search? Search is the best and fastest way to find the threads I seek. This is nonsense.
Sorry, everyone. We're looking into the cause of this. It's possible that our server admin had to turn off search for several hours to do maintenance. It must have been unexpected, because usually he encourages us to announce the down time before it happens when it's going to be more than a few minutes.
its still working fine
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File Explorer Demoed For Windows Phone 7, Coming Soon

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/touchxplorer-windows-phone-7-file-explorer-demoed-coming-soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57XWYlcZxGM&feature=player_embedded
this is interesting, so does this mean we will be able to download mp3s and such through the web browser and access them using this like we can on windows mobile?
i doubt. it appears to just be an app, so unless it's homebrewed to use interop to do it in which case i don't see it getting into the market place.
The Gate Keeper said:
i doubt. it appears to just be an app, so unless it's homebrewed to use interop to do it in which case i don't see it getting into the market place.
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It would be awesome.
The Gate Keeper said:
i doubt. it appears to just be an app, so unless it's homebrewed to use interop to do it in which case i don't see it getting into the market place.
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if you read his web site you will see that it is only for homebrew , and that is the best that can happen for a file explorer
http://www.touchxperience.com/
I really hope that schaps either releases the source code, or doesn't obfuscate it so other developers can make use of this.
yea likewise. though based on readings, i believe he's just calling HTC's interop service to pull the file listings that way.
The Gate Keeper said:
yea likewise. though based on readings, i believe he's just calling HTC's interop service to pull the file listings that way.
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Where did you read this? very interested..
and let the patry begin
http://forum.touchxperience.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=582#p2308
I can only say WOW WOW wOW
Yes WOW!!!
his wp7 UI for winmo was coming soon for almost a year. Let's hope this is a little faster.
nrfitchett4 said:
his wp7 UI for winmo was coming soon for almost a year. Let's hope this is a little faster.
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LOL, but this you can already download
http://forum.touchxperience.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=582
Who knows if I will not root my device first time in my life.
WP7 with extra power is my dream.

[Q] Sideloading Apps

Are there any?
Windows Phone 7 is already open to homebrew applications.
The chevron tool unlocks the device, but to anyone that isn't a developer there seems to be no point to this.
The question is are there any sideloading applications readily available for us non-developing members? Or should I, for now, leave my device locked.?
(And to all you Devs making Apps keep up the good work. And dont let excited people like me rush you )
WindowsLP said:
Are there any?
Windows Phone 7 is already open to homebrew applications.
The chevron tool unlocks the device, but to anyone that isn't a developer there seems to be no point to this.
The question is are there any sideloading applications readily available for us non-developing members? Or should I, for now, leave my device locked.?
(And to all you Devs making Apps keep up the good work. And dont let excited people like me rush you )
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Have you searched? It's rampantly talked about and even stickied in this very forum.
thesecondsfade said:
Have you searched? It's rampantly talked about and even stickied in this very forum.
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Yes I have searched...
And the best i could find was infact the same information, that being that the chevron App unlocks it.
Thanks for the help...
So far the only really useful capability we've unlocked is the ability to do networking. Someone used that to make a webserver, which is cool, but the average user probably won't be too interested in it. We're still working on unlocking a lot of other things, though.
The best thing to do is to hop in, learn to program, and start coding yourself! With a weekend, you should be able to make something fairly basic and nice.

ChevronWP7 Unlocker Possible Patch by Microsoft on next Update

Tried installing, but it didn't recognize my HD2.
So following the advise to put a reg entry on my pc, Chevron opened, I checked the required boxes and tried to run, but again it wouldn't see the phone.
I finally found the makers Twitter page, saying that MS will be patching the unlocker on their first update.(proberbly the reason the site is now down).
Anyway after checking Zune on my PC, Microsoft has already installed three patches to the phone during my first Sync.
Here is the Twitter page...http://twitter.com/search?q=%23ChevronWP7
I hope there's a way round this, and I hope I'm wrong, sorry for the bad news...
EDIT: Found out that I need Development tools installed, which isn't stated in the two Threads I was reading, after more searching, I have hope again. If it works I will update this post.
Dam I need Vista SP2 or win7, xp no good.. now I've got to set up a desktop...
Edit: Finally got it working today and UK is screwed...just got off the phone wit MS (UK based folk can call: 0844 800 2400 choose option 2 and then option 7) They've stopped giving them out and to contact my operator. T-mobile UK will proberbly tell me to sod off... so I guess I'll have to wait for a Key-Gen to come out.
Hmm Then i must be just in time because i got mine unlocked a few hours ago..
Hopefully this product works like an Iphone does ( not installing any updates or w/e without notifying you ).. If it happens automatically I'm screwed because Windows Phone 7 seems to have a mind of its own doing its own updating and everything..
I had to install WP7 SDK. Without that, it would not work at all! Just worked for me.
AverGo said:
Tried installing, but it didn't recognize my HD2.
So following the advise to put a reg entry on my pc, Chevron opened, I checked the required boxes and tried to run, but again it wouldn't see the phone.
I finally found the makers Twitter page, saying that MS will be patching the unlocker on their first update.(proberbly the reason the site is now down).
Anyway after checking Zune on my PC, Microsoft has already installed three patches to the phone during my first Sync.
Here is the Twitter page...http://twitter.com/search?q=%23ChevronWP7
I hope there's a way round this, and I hope I'm wrong, sorry for the bad news...
EDIT: Found out that I need Development tools installed, which isn't stated in the two Threads I was reading, after more searching, I have hope again. If it works I will update this post.
Dam I need Vista SP2 or win7, xp no good.. now I've got to set up a desktop...
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might be worth changing the thread title since it's incorrect.
indiekiduk said:
might be worth changing the thread title since it's incorrect.
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Well the title is correct, Microsoft is patching the ChevronWP7 exploit.
The inclination that the patch has already been pushed is the incorrect part.
Let's just hope something good comes from the talks DFT ChevronWP7 is going to have with Microsoft!
nzxtneo said:
Let's just hope something good comes from the talks DFT is going to have with Microsoft!
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DFT is not involved in ChevronWP7.
LongZheng said:
DFT is not involved in ChevronWP7.
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Sorry, got my head in the clouds...
http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-...ommunity-schedules-roundtable-chevronwp7-team
LongZheng said:
DFT is not involved in ChevronWP7.
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LOL , No your not on DFT?
Thanks.. Will re-edit title, and have put an update in first post, not good news for uk users, trying to get activation.
To general.
~~Tito~~
AverGo said:
Thanks.. Will re-edit title, and have put an update in first post, not good news for uk users, trying to get activation.
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Still do not get it, what activation are you talking about? WP7 does not need to be activated?!

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