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I'm curious to know what other people experience in terms of battery life. I've just put a fresh 1500mAh battery into my phone, and I've flashed it with two ROMs in as many days.
I got average battery life out of the first ROM I tried (Schap's v4.31 Full), but I'm currently running with CRC's Release 13.3 Stable (Build 20270) and I can - literally - see the battery life ebb away in front of my eyes. From the moment I unplugged it, the battery went down to 99%, 98%, 97%... slowed down at 94%, but it's carried on going down.
The phone's only been unplugged for about 3 hours, with moderate usage (occasional use, installing a couple of apps, a lot of time just sitting by my computer) and already the battery is at 79% (one minute ago it was at 80%).
I can monitor the power consumption with BatteryStatus and it does seem to be using more power than you'd expect just idling - 43mA with the phone idle, bluetooth turned on and paired to my headset and the backlight on. With the backlight off completely, it's still using between 25mA and 50mA! Is this to be expected, or is something sucking the battery power up?
Is WM6.1 just a thirstier OS than WM6, or is CRC's ROM particularly resource intensive? I have done a little tweaking, but mostly doing things like turning power management ON (to lower SD card power usage) and installing a couple of extra apps (none of which are currently loaded in the background).
If people have a particular ROM which has very good battery life, please let me know - I'm interested to see what people are using and what kind of battery life everybody is getting.
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Christopher
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Where did you get a 1500MAH battery for a herm? i could only find 1350!!!
I'm using Black Satin. 6.1pro but it doesn't have anything fancy, like manilla 2d or stuff its really basic. With 3g turned OFF! the phone doesn't overheat. As soon as the phone gets a little hot the battery just drains for some reason. I believe that the 3d card when its turned on it must not have signal everywhere and as soon as the connection is broken if you step outside of the coverage area it tries to find the signal and BOOM! your phone is dead! battery just drains.
on the average day ill take it off the charger around 8am. and just leaving it on standby not doing anything its usually dead around 5pm...
And this is the Black satin rom so far out of all the roms i tried it has been the best for power consumption. There is a guide on the "Best" tested roms in the stickie... its a great starting point. Some of the top rated roms didnt work for me cause i needed to install some 3rd party software for work ... and they didnt work, im guessing cause there was some stuff that was stripped out.
it is not only about the rom. it is also about the battery you purchased.
I have an old original battery which is about 4 years old. I also have a cheap brand new battery I purchased from china. The 4 year old battery holds more power than the cheap brand new one. I found that the new batteries are not properly initialized, or that there is something wrong with how they report the remaining power. My new battery drops down to 60% percent very fast. Then it hangs there for a long time and then starts going down very fast again. In standby it gives me 2-3 days. With wifi turned on, I get about 20-30 minutes. The original battery gives me a couple hours even with wifi turned on.
what you say makes sense, when i called HTC about this overheating / Battery issue they told me that they didn't specifically make batteries. After reading a bunch of posts there seems to be different models from different countries of the hermes. After looking deeper into the battery issue there are also different manufacturer of batteries from different countries also. The thing is HTC can not tell you EXACTLY which on you need cause each operator has different standards for the phone some even modify the phone from HTC... When i called Expansys which was where HTC recommended i purchase the battery from they had 2 models. 1 that was 1300mah and 1350mah. I Opted for the "House" brand instead of the other one which was cheaper in price ... I guess this is the reason. Like memory when it is made in JAPAN its quality is not the same as KOREA.
I agree with regards to the battery quality. That's why I only buy Cameron Sino 1500mAh batteries for my Hermes (I buy them from Morpeth Mobiles here in the UK, they also sell on eBay and I'm sure they'd ship international if you wanted to buy from them).
They handled a recent return excellently and I've been very happy with their service.
The nice thing about the 1500mAh batteries is that they fit inside the case without a replacement back cover...
I know that using 3G can suck the life out of our phones given the awful chipset (using it on GPRS only or in 3G with a very strong signal will always yield better results) but at the moment I'm not sure if it's a problem with this particular battery or with the ROM itself - I have two others with which I can do some comparisons, so I will be doing that later. However, the battery life today has been awful. I got home earlier, and less than 12 hours after being unplugged, my phone was down to 18% battery. Just awful, the worst battery life I've ever seen from my phone. I'm not sure whether it's the fact it's Windows Mobile 6.1 or whether it's a problem with this particular battery or the way the ROM has been cooked... I'll have to do some more experiments, but I know for sure that something's not right!
The roms Also do play a part i beleive, some use up more memory and have processes running.. this uses power. Its the same as a LAPTOP. The LT will not last forever.
But im really dissapointed with the Hermes. i had NON touch screen HTC's . s640 and S621 and they used to go for days on end without charging...
i herd some back feedback on these touch screen phones also ... about the life... but every time also the 3g would murder the battery life!
Although on balance, I still don't think our phone does that badly... You realise that it's almost on-par with the more recent technology, particularly when you hear some of the battery life horror stories from iPhone users, who are dismayed that they can't get more than 12-15 hours' use out of their beloved phone when they attempt to do anything vaguely like USE it (push email, multimedia etc)...
The saga continues.
I may just buy a petrol generator on a small trolley and attach the whole thing to my belt. Now THAT's ultra portability. I could use my phone on 3G for days!
I picked up my Hermes from another xda member a week and a half ago. I flashed to CRC's stable 13.3, added HTC Home and a few other extras, nothing real system heavy or anything. Battery life was abysmal with bluetooth and 3g turned OFF, 3 email accounts syncing every 30 min, on the original 1350mah battery - I was lucky to last half a day.
I ordered a 3000mah extended battery, it arrived yesterday, I let it drain completely. It's fully charged and running now. I have bluetooth and 3g on, and my email accounts are syncing every 10 minutes. I will monitor the battery life over the next few days and report.
I too have noticed the battery meter being very eratic in CRC's stable rom for both batteries. I'm not sure if this is a battery issue or a rom issue. I may try turning 3g off as some have suggested and see if that yields better results.
My previous phone for 8 months was a Motorola Q9H, so I'm not exactly a noob to the winmo world. With the q's extended battery and bluetooth/3g on I was getting a good day and a half to two days with a rather large amount of data use in there. Honestly, as much as I love the upgrade to winmo pro, if the extended battery doesn't do the trick I'll be back to the moto for the remainder of my contract and the Hermes is going on ebay. Anyone with any suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
Yep i just installed CRCs Release 13.3 Stable... Looks nice, but i think you are right .... im stuck with this clunker for now cause i need it for work but im waiting on a Touch diamond... As soon as my company can afford it! LOLOLOL
Let us know about the 3000ma bat... Is that the one with the HUGE back door that sticks out?
I seen that online and though to myself.... WTF the phone is already too big!!!
What's your battery life like
I have an HTC TyTN that originally had Windows Mobile 5. I flashed to the rom to 6.1 pro and also noted a significant power drain that I didn't have with 5.0 or 6.0. My thoughts are that moving from 5.0 to 6.1 is much like going from Windows XP to Vista. The power demands are greater. At least that's my hunch.
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Well i tried all these roms ... The Manilla roms look GREAT the touchflo is really cool!!!! But dam the phone doesnt have enuff ram or juice... So what happens if you get all kinds of bugs ect...
But if you try some of the other 6.1 roms like Black Satin or CRC which dont have touch flo ... the bat is not soo bad... The lite verisons of the roms can also be nice .... But they lack support for other software.
i prefer the classic Windows with the home cause you can use the Screen Lock feature ... specially for the HTC Herm ... i always had it in the pounch then all of a sudden i would pull it out and IE was open!!! or i was calling someone LOLOL that sucks!
i have tried lots of roms that were developed here on xda.
the best battery life was using k's final wm6.0. it was unbeatable.
the other thing is that it also depends on the type of storage version of the rom itself. the big storage roms eat your battery for breakfast but you get better performance.
if you have more today plugins they also eat up the battery
you also should, before flashing your new rom, flash the original rom. after that you flash the normal rom.
you can also check the processes running in the backgroung, maybe there is something left over that occupies the processor.
3g is a big drainer especially if you get to an area where the signal is weak and dissapears. then the phone constantly tries to find the 3g and your battery drains quickly. normaly, when i don't go online as much, i keep 3g swiched off.
now i'am using the new wm6.5 beta and i get more than one full day of battery life of normal usage. phone, mail, internet...
godofthesms said:
Yep i just installed CRCs Release 13.3 Stable... Looks nice, but i think you are right .... im stuck with this clunker for now cause i need it for work but im waiting on a Touch diamond... As soon as my company can afford it! LOLOLOL
Let us know about the 3000ma bat... Is that the one with the HUGE back door that sticks out?
I seen that online and though to myself.... WTF the phone is already too big!!!
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Yea the extended battery turns the Hermes into a tank. It does have a nice feel to it in your hand though, and my Body Glove universal case ($15 walmart) actually fits, although its snug.
If the battery doesn't give me the life I'm looking for from CRC's 6.1, I am considering flashing to the stripped down version of ATT's 6.0 rom, or perhaps trying out the new 6.5 hybrid build from josh. Who knows, maybe CRC's rom is just a battery suck (which I can't imagine it is, it's pretty stripped down/light weight). I guess we will see after a few days here.
NICE!
i would like to try 6.5 .... but i cant seem to find any links with screen shots... If it has any sort of Touch flo ... Forget it ...
Do you have a link to 6.5 WWE?
Interesting about the comments re: big storage eating battery, and interesting also that other people using the same ROM as I am currently are also experiencing battery life problems.
I just swapped out the battery in my device - from the brand new 1500mAh battery to the older (identical) 1500mAh battery, freshly charged. As soon as I got to the Today screen, the battery was already down to 97% - and just sitting on my knee ticking over, it's already gone down to 94%. 93% now!
This is ridiculous. The battery life in WM6.0 is the same (just as bad? ) as the original WM5 ROM I had on it, it's mad to think that a simple point release of an Operating System can cause such a massive difference to battery life.
However, this ROM may have Big Storage enabled, so that could be sucking the battery life out of the poor thing. Does anybody have any pointers or links to previous discussiong about how (or why) Big Storage drains the battery more than a regular ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461680
the best 65 ROM so far and with relatively good battery life.
i had the same problem with the battery life and came to realize that NO rom is good enough in thus area.
i guess that is a small price to pay for free OS
i would also recommend you to try the original ROM for your country or WWE and check his battery life for a few days - you will soon find out that the more application you will install you'll get more processes that are running in the background = less battery life.
if you can live with the default WM - you wull get the best battery life.
Hehe, unfortunately the ROM which came with my phone was from my phone provider - T-Mobile UK - and it is awful! Broken Bluetooth, huge lag on the phone because of all the preinstalled crap, almost no free device memory, slow to respond generally... All of these new ROMs I've flashed make my device feel so quick again! It's amazing what a small change can do.
Has anybody cooked a WM6 ROM without the honeycomb Today screen interface? And is it totally impossible to go back to WM6/6.1 after you flash 6.5?
pickiki said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461680
the best 65 ROM so far and with relatively good battery life.
i had the same problem with the battery life and came to realize that NO rom is good enough in thus area.
i guess that is a small price to pay for free OS
i would also recommend you to try the original ROM for your country or WWE and check his battery life for a few days - you will soon find out that the more application you will install you'll get more processes that are running in the background = less battery life.
if you can live with the default WM - you wull get the best battery life.
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Has anyone tried this EVIL rom? 6.5? It saus dont synch with VISTA... i have vista...
Going for it
IM going for the 6.5 RIGHT now!!!!
Stay Tooooooooooooooned!
Problems problems problems!
Oh **** my phone is screwed! LOLOL
Installed 6.5 evil v10.. hehe works YEH! but when i connect to my Windows box "Vista" the phone freezes! i gotta hard boot!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
NOTE: Fourth Option Should Read 16-24 Hours of LIGHT Use!
I see a lot of people constantly talking about battery life on here and how they are disappointed by what they are seeing from ROMs, kernels, or the OTA release.
I'm interested to see exactly what sort of expectations people have on the lifetime of their phone.
I've been fairly cognizant of my phone's power consumption and have done a lot to ensure I understand how I use it and what effect that has on its life between charges.
I understand that a first generation phone with the largest screen, the fastest processor available, the most processor intensive camera, with animated wallpapers, synchronization to various web services, flash, and borderline experimental next-generation wireless connectivity that can tether to multiple devices. To have all that on a unit marginally larger than my old Palm Pre and roughly the same battery size (1150mAh stock) is going to come with some compromises.
I tend to overclock, ROM flash, and beat the snot out of my phone on a regular basis. Therefore, I have a super gigantic Seidio battery that I absolutely adore. I found that even before that, I was able to get my battery life under control if I controlled my phone properly, so I'm not sure what the problem is.
Did some people just get bad phones? Are some people just being unrealistic with their expectations? What goals do you think people should be setting for the lifetime of their phone between charges?
Its an honest question.
I used to get almost a week out of an old motorola flip style phone (v500 something).
Everything since then has been downhill.
I'm not under the false impression that these new phones are going to last as long as the older "dumb" phones, BUT.....Id like to be able to get through the day without charging my phone. I keep my screen about 40% brightness, I'm usually in an area with good reception, I only sync my Gmail, I've calibrated my battery, etc. The only real USE my phone gets is texting. I unplug my phone at 5am and its more than half gone by noon. Not real great IMO.
I think this will provide valuable insight as to expectations for this phone. Personally I have used smartphones since I can remember and I was bread to expect a nightly charge.
It may be unacceptable to some that we have to "mod" our phones to get reasonable battery life, but I really dont have too many complaints. Out of the box, the EVO is running a 1gz processor and powering a 4.3" display. Not to mention if you're running wifi and various apps. I think some people are just expecting too much from these phones. Look at laptops. When my dell was brand new, I could get 2-3 hours of steady use before it conked out. The battery life our phones are getting, modded or stock, isnt really that bad. If you're unwilling to do some research and easy mods or buy a spare $20 OEM battery off eBay please dont complain about it.
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I think this will provide valuable insight as to expectations for this phone. Personally I have used smartphones since I can remember and I was bread to expect a nightly charge.
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A nightly charge is acceptable. It's when you have to charge 2-3 times a day from moderate usage that is a little out of hand... Understandable that with heavier usage, more frequent charges would be needed.
Wat kernel is best for saving battery life.. i use CM6 NB
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Wat kernel is best for saving battery life.. i use CM6 NB
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Off Topic.
I want to power a small village from my phone please
I want my phone to last a day. And call a typical day something like:
- l/2-1 hour talk
- 12-24 text messages
- 45 minutes - 2 hours web browsing
- 2 hours music
My iPhone 3GS would do this without a problem, my wife's iPhone 4 might do 2 days like this. The EVO just barely does this.
But.. I prefer the EVO for enough reasons I just dropped $10 for 2 extra batteries and a phone-less charger on ebay, and keep chargers in the car and at my desk, and get it plugged in for like 30 minutes somewhere during the day. I rarely use the backup batteries, but it is nice to have them.
Totally worth it for a bigger screen, 4G, more open OS.
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I want my phone to last a day. And call a typical day something like:
- l/2-1 hour talk
- 12-24 text messages
- 45 minutes - 2 hours web browsing
- 2 hours music
My iPhone 3GS would do this without a problem, my wife's iPhone 4 might do 2 days like this. The EVO just barely does this.
But.. I prefer the EVO for enough reasons I just dropped $10 for 2 extra batteries and a phone-less charger on ebay, and keep chargers in the car and at my desk, and get it plugged in for like 30 minutes somewhere during the day. I rarely use the backup batteries, but it is nice to have them.
Totally worth it for a bigger screen, 4G, more open OS.
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This definitely sounds doable. If you aren't getting that out of your phone, I'd reccomend calling support. I'm going to assume your dedication has already lead you down your own troubleshooting path.
My standard was set with my BlackBerry: less than 5% discharge rate per hour under normal use, and I am happy.
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I think this havent been discuss.. my question is: what do you guys do to keep your battery thru the whole day? I have seen people said that they keep their phone alive for at least a 1.5 or 2 days????
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I think this havent been discuss.. my question is: what do you guys do to keep your battery thru the whole day? I have seen people said that they keep their phone alive for at least a 1.5 or 2 days????
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There are several threads on this topic. Here is a current and popular one: How Do You Charge Your DInc?
Yeah but thats on charging it.. not wat u do to keep it.. like i read in another forum that some people disable gps and stuff like that... thats what i mean.. and thank you for ur post!!
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Yeah but thats on charging it.. not wat u do to keep it.. like i read in another forum that some people disable gps and stuff like that... thats what i mean.. and thank you for ur post!!
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No problem for the link. There are many ways to help save battery. I for one turn off GPS, Bluetooth, and mobile data when I'm not using them. I use AOSP Roms mostly because they give me better battery life, I use Incredikernel because it regulates how my battery works more efficiently, and I also have an extended battery. Wiping your battery stats every once in a while can help you prolong your battery life as well.
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optimized sense with the stock kernel will warrant some seriously nice battery life. thats how I maintain mine.
Depends on what I do, through a normal day (texting, few short calls, 30 minutes of music streaming, less than 5 minutes of GPS) it'll last ~1.5-2 days with CM7 nightlies and chad's incredikernel - underclocked 128MIN - ~800max
But if I use GPS all day, which I sometimes do- it'll drop 50% after 4-5 hours of use (this means screen-on, GPS running, also uses 3G data for maps) and I'll usually need to plug it in before the day ends.
I have a 1900mAh battery that fits in the stock case, so this isn't what I get on the stock 1300mAh battery.
If you can't last it through the day it usually means that you are a very heavy user (you like browsing the web all the time, streaming music, texting, watching videos) OR you have a setup that likes to eat your battery.
I need two of my 3 batteries to make it through one day. I use juice defender, and when I stream pandora at work I turn it off cause it interferes. I always have a charger handy too
Please lengthen your message to at least 10 charters
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people would like say how ugly my phone was in public.
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This made me me lol!
I actually didn't know that the 2150 was smaller than the 3500. That thing is a beast, my friend uses one and his phone is at least twice as thick as mine.
If you are rooted, you can update the radio, I've noticed much better performance out of the updates cause they seem to manage gps and wireless better. The radio update turn off wireless if you are out of range and turn off gps if no app is using it.
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I actually didn't know that the 2150 was smaller than the 3500. That thing is a beast, my friend uses one and his phone is at least twice as thick as mine.
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yeah but you have to take into account how slim the stock incredible is. Without any case and with only the stock battery it's too thin (for me at least). Hard to hold onto the sides and I accidentally press the volume buttons often. I've also dropped it 3 times with that setup.
With a case it's great and with the 2150 it was great, loved both setups but I'm liking the new style now with the 1900 and case so that's where I'm sticking at.
Does wiping the battery stats help the battery life? Or is it just so the phone better understands how much battery is left?
Stock battery has always worked best for me.. I also have the seido 1750 mah as well as some chinese versions of 1500 mah.. I use them as backups.. I'm currently using miui as my rom and the battery life is great... I usually get about 24hrs before i'm down to 20%. No way I would make the whole day on previous roms..
I take cues from battery university. Basically, don't let the battery go below 20% shallow charge /discharge
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The kernel your running makes a huge difference in battery life. Been using Ziggy's BFS for quite some time now with the Seido 1750. Gets me though the whole day
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Alright so I have had some time on XDA without really contributing. In the past year I have owned 7 android phones and havent really done anything. My newest try is the NITRO HD which I bought with a broken screen but fixing it. I was skeptical because the Optimus 3D had the worst battery life of the 7 I've owned.
Always with LG phones the question is battery life, so I wanted to share a thread where you guys, the reviewers would post battery info screenshots with information on usage (heavy, moderate, light), which battery you are using, which ROM you are using, Battery brand and size
I will post my first battery review pictures as soon as I get the phone up and running with a custom ROM. You guys (or ladies for the ladies out there), if you want can go ahead and start posting.
Rules/Instructions
Post usage information, pictures or link to screenshot pictures, battery size in mAh, which rom you are using (if on nightly, just post nightly date) and I believe thats just about it. Let the games begin.... or Review
Also, to make it fair, charge battery to 100% and then begin regular usage and take screenshot at 20% battery left or lower
Finally I am on CM9 from 5/7
My battery is the extended hyperion (I think thats the name) 3800mAh
Under heavy usage with over 100 texts, a few 2 minute phone calls, screen on for about 1 hours in that entire cycle and also listening to music through Bluetooth headset for about 2 hours and few camera uses
Goal was 10 hours.
between 21% and 10%, I went super heavy pn the phone with youtube videos, web browsing, listening to some music, downloading apps, and facebook. screen was on the entire time.
Battery: Stock 1850 mAH
ROM: CM9 Nightly 04/30/12
CM9 seems to be getting better on the battery life to be honest. I'm actually getting through the work day and then some.
Those times are not bad at all! I thought it would be worse. I ordered a 3800 mAh battery and I'm also getting a stock with the phone. Ill put up pictures tomorrow night EST or Saturday afternoon EST.
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Battery: Stock 1850 mAH
ROM: CM9 Nightly 04/30/12
CM9 seems to be getting better on the battery life to be honest. I'm actually getting through the work day and then some.
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did u use uot kitchen to make that battery mod? if not can u share?
Nope, it's a CM9 add on called ICS Reloaded. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531222
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not sure why the big drop when i rebooted early in the cycle.
this is an average complete day for me of listening to music (with the screen off mostly) handling emails & phone calls, several brief surf sessions, news reading, playing temple run, chess, and table tennis several times each but briefly.
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not sure why the big drop when i rebooted early in the cycle.
this is an average complete day for me of listening to music (with the screen off mostly) handling emails & phone calls, several brief surf sessions, news reading, playing temple run, chess, and table tennis several times each but briefly.
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Wow your battery life obliterates mine. What were you getting before JD?
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Wow your battery life obliterates mine. What were you getting before JD?
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about what you are getting. I would say it is at least a 40% improvement.
THE curious part is that up until now I had assumed that improvement was due to how JD handles the screen brightness but my screen is only using 6% < than your screen (12% v 18%).
it doesn't seem to me that the savings from the screen adds up enough to = the 40%, but hard to tell, what do you think?
Yeah it's definitely more than just the screen brightness. When I used JD on gb before I didn't like it because it would not allow my Google+ messages to get through real time, even when I enabled screen off in the options..
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not sure why the big drop when i rebooted early in the cycle.
this is an average complete day for me of listening to music (with the screen off mostly) handling emails & phone calls, several brief surf sessions, news reading, playing temple run, chess, and table tennis several times each but briefly.
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WOW! that's on stock??? Thats great! now im thinking i should not have bought the extended (not a fan of bulky batteries) Anything more than 10 hours for me is enough and that got you to 15. And i didnt like JD ultimate on GB either. Im about to kdz my way back to rootable firmware and then flash cm9 nightly and have a try. (accidentally applied AT&T firmware update)
^Your standards are sort of low? 10 hours??? Phone should last a day (less sleep) - 16-17 hours. I have a skyrocket, a captivate, this P930, and now a one X and the battery life is just unacceptable on the P930. Bad enough I'm gonna have to ditch it.
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^Your standards are sort of low? 10 hours??? Phone should last a day (less sleep) - 16-17 hours. I have a skyrocket, a captivate, this P930, and now a one X and the battery life is just unacceptable on the P930. Bad enough I'm gonna have to ditch it.
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Well everyone is different so yeah 10 hours is good enough for me. Just need something where i dont have to plug it in when im out of the house from 7 to 5 and thats fine. i got the extended anyway so it wont be bad but yeah i would be fine with 10 hours. also, the nitro, is actually not bad. im running stock and its not as slow as people make it seem. its definitely faster than my old infuse (over clocked and optimized with custom rom). The only doubts i had was the battery thats why i got the extended and have the stock as backup. but everyone is different. if you want to ditch it then its up to you, but its a good phone.
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Well everyone is different so yeah 10 hours is good enough for me. Just need something where i dont have to plug it in when im out of the house from 7 to 5 and thats fine. i got the extended anyway so it wont be bad but yeah i would be fine with 10 hours. also, the nitro, is actually not bad. im running stock and its not as slow as people make it seem. its definitely faster than my old infuse (over clocked and optimized with custom rom). The only doubts i had was the battery thats why i got the extended and have the stock as backup. but everyone is different. if you want to ditch it then its up to you, but its a good phone.
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The main reason I HAD to switch to CM9 was that the colour gradients on the screen in gingerbread were driving me crazy. GB doesn't support the 1280x720 pixels our phone pushes, but ICS does
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Well everyone is different so yeah 10 hours is good enough for me. Just need something where i dont have to plug it in when im out of the house from 7 to 5 and thats fine. i got the extended anyway so it wont be bad but yeah i would be fine with 10 hours. also, the nitro, is actually not bad. im running stock and its not as slow as people make it seem. its definitely faster than my old infuse (over clocked and optimized with custom rom). The only doubts i had was the battery thats why i got the extended and have the stock as backup. but everyone is different. if you want to ditch it then its up to you, but its a good phone.
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I agree, my post came off as sort of harsh, didn't mean it do. I'm just disappointed. I liked the Nitro so much, but something is seriously wrong with the battery life. The battery is plenty big, we make sure no apps are misbehaving....but the battery life is AWFUL. Waayyyyy worse than any similar phone. It's a bummer.
ok ok, we get it.
you don't see me droning on about how good my batt life is, please don't keep going on with your dissapointment.
scott0 said:
ok ok, we get it.
you don't see me droning on about how good my batt life is, please don't keep going on with your dissapointment.
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I wasn't droning and I can't see you at all. How do you get good battery life? How about contributing?
like you have?
^No, what I have is a problem. And since you have "good" battery life, I thought maybe you can share a solution. I wonder if there's a voltage issue or something with the stock kernel. We run the same chipset as the skyrocket, right?
So I switched from the iphone with edge to the Tmo S2 with Jugg 5.0 ROM + Go Launcher. I really appreciate the 4g speed. However, the overall experience is not as smooth as the iphone and the battery life sucks big time. I normally have to constantly plug the phone in whenever I can. It works ok when I'm at work but when I'm out all day my battery won't last more than half a day. It's so bad to the extent that I have to turn off my phone and turn on when I need to call or text so I can keep the phone alive the whole day. I tried Juice Defender but it didn't help my battery at all.
Yesterday I spent a few hours on XDA and I came up with these solution to my battery problem:
+DarkSide Digital Warfare v2.7 ROM (couldn't find 2.5.1 version)
+Flash Synergy Kernel over (supposed to give better battery)
+SetCPU app (auto detection)
+Zeam launcher
So far, it seems to be better on the battery. Is there anything else I could add to make my battery last longer? I need the phone to last at least the whole day without charge. I'm constantly on 4g looking up stocks, reading news, email, google voice, grooveip, facebook, turn by turn navigation, music, netflix, youtube ...
Thanks,
Welcome to Android.
From what it appears, you seem to be a heavy user. The most you can get out of a Android device with heavy usage is 3/4 of a day (14-18hrs) tops.
You have 2 choices, either you travel with the power cord not to far away and plug it when you need it or you invest a whooping 10$ and buy another battery.
There are tricks to keeping your battery healthy but lasting all day as a heavy user will be very difficult.
If this is a new phone it takes a week or so for the battery to settle in a hold a charge well. After a week or so you'll notice your battery is lasting longer. Also make sure that nothing is keeping your phone awake 100%. Some apps don't play nice and cause issues. Welcome to Android.
Note: navigation kills battery fast, when your using it try to plug into a car charger or something.
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There are a lot of things you can do to improve battery.
1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
etc etc.
Those are the main things that I tend to do. I plug my phone in every night before I go to bed as well so I am not sure how long my battery actually lasts. But typically after 16hrs of use I still have 60% battery when I go to bed.
Currently my phone has been on for 7hrs 15mins and I have 87% battery. So you can do the math. I am not as heavy a user as you seem to be, but hope this helps. Peace.
Check out this video it helps show you how to save battery. Enjoy!
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
Chochiwpg said:
1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
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I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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You could run Juggernaut with Faux Kernel and Gideon's battery scripts. Or Telus T989D stock ROM lightly tweaked with same kernel and script. Got good results on those as well. Good luck.
Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
Use fox star rom
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DroidNo0b said:
Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
Gideon's scripts are great with Juggs. Underclock it as well like 384-1080 is a great setting. Also let die all the way down and charge all the way up and repeat for a few cycles. And don't stare at your phone every few seconds either lol! Another thing are the notification lighting buttons at the bottom. Drop to 1.5 seconds.
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yoft1 said:
If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
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I have the extended 3800mah battery. It's insanely fat and makes the phone look hideous. On top of that I really don't feel like the battery lasts all that long at all. It's in my pocket all day at school and by 3:30 I'm at 35%. This thing cost me 65$. Total ripoff. I'd suggest spending 20$ and buying two more regular batteries. See what that does for you all
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A few things you can do on ANY ROM to improve battery life.
*) Decrease screen timeout to the lowest possible setting.
*) Adjust screen brightness to the lowest level you can tolerate.
*) Decrease the backlight key timeout to the lowest setting ( or off if you have the option )
*) Be sure to only have wifi and gps on if you are using them.
Those will help quite a bit in general however, a ROM like Juggs is meant to really take advantage of the power of your device so its probably wise to move to a different one if max battery is your goal. I love Juggs but had to move on to the AOSP stuff. Also, heed the advice above, allow the ROM a few days to "settle" before making a switch or even a judgement of its performance.
Thanks for the replies guys. So my phone lasted for 9hrs today which is a little bit of improvement. I was streaming netflix for half an hr on the train on the way back home so that may have drained the battery. I have just installed JD, will post back how it goes tomorrow.
So the extended battery is a no go eh. I really don't want to lug around a few extra batteries. I want to carry as little as possible. I normally carry my phone and my ipad but now I tend to not use the ipad much now because the S2 screen is pretty gigantic for a phone.
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Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
tablador said:
I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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If you read my post above. I'm against the idea lugging around too many things. It's also a hassle to swap the battery and keep them all charged. I may be a heavy user but it's not like I use the phone all the time. I use the phone heavily early in the morning on the way to work and after 5pm on the way home after work. The commute each way is roughly 45 mins. In between the commutes i make a few calls and texts through GV. I don't think i'm that of a really heavy user.
Anyway, it's noon and I'm at 75% with JD on and setCPU to 384-1084mhz which is pretty promising.
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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
8Fishes said:
Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Don't you think it is ironic for me to switch from the iphone to the S2 because I couldn't stand the slow 2g Edge connection then have to lower data speed to GSM (2g) just so I can use the S2 long enough?
I think the S2 is one heck of a device but the OS and Apps are not running very efficiently.
I tried the ICS ROM ARKSIDE.UCLE2:: x[BETA07.1] in the last 2 days with setCPU at 384-1026Mhz. I have had great battery life. I got home at 12 am yesterday with a 2% battery. Today it's been 7 hrs on battery and my battery is at 70%. I don't know if it is the ROM, setCPU or a combination of the two but I'm pretty happy with the phone right now. ICS is awesome too.
I highly recommend that solution to anyone having a short battery life problem with their S2.
It is a little ironic since you did bring up the comparison. What I was attempting to do was to bring the phone more into spec of an iphone to get similar battery life. You're probably going to even get better runtimes due to the battery having a much larger capacity and better screen technology. All that superior hardware packed in the t989 is going to need more juice to run.
It's great you're getting good runtimes now. From my personal experience, once I drop down to the single digit percentages, it starts lasting a lot longer per percent. If you wanted to squeeze all you can from the device, those 2000mah aftermarket cells might add another 15~30 minutes.