I'm curious to know what other people experience in terms of battery life. I've just put a fresh 1500mAh battery into my phone, and I've flashed it with two ROMs in as many days.
I got average battery life out of the first ROM I tried (Schap's v4.31 Full), but I'm currently running with CRC's Release 13.3 Stable (Build 20270) and I can - literally - see the battery life ebb away in front of my eyes. From the moment I unplugged it, the battery went down to 99%, 98%, 97%... slowed down at 94%, but it's carried on going down.
The phone's only been unplugged for about 3 hours, with moderate usage (occasional use, installing a couple of apps, a lot of time just sitting by my computer) and already the battery is at 79% (one minute ago it was at 80%).
I can monitor the power consumption with BatteryStatus and it does seem to be using more power than you'd expect just idling - 43mA with the phone idle, bluetooth turned on and paired to my headset and the backlight on. With the backlight off completely, it's still using between 25mA and 50mA! Is this to be expected, or is something sucking the battery power up?
Is WM6.1 just a thirstier OS than WM6, or is CRC's ROM particularly resource intensive? I have done a little tweaking, but mostly doing things like turning power management ON (to lower SD card power usage) and installing a couple of extra apps (none of which are currently loaded in the background).
If people have a particular ROM which has very good battery life, please let me know - I'm interested to see what people are using and what kind of battery life everybody is getting.
Cheers
Christopher
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Where did you get a 1500MAH battery for a herm? i could only find 1350!!!
I'm using Black Satin. 6.1pro but it doesn't have anything fancy, like manilla 2d or stuff its really basic. With 3g turned OFF! the phone doesn't overheat. As soon as the phone gets a little hot the battery just drains for some reason. I believe that the 3d card when its turned on it must not have signal everywhere and as soon as the connection is broken if you step outside of the coverage area it tries to find the signal and BOOM! your phone is dead! battery just drains.
on the average day ill take it off the charger around 8am. and just leaving it on standby not doing anything its usually dead around 5pm...
And this is the Black satin rom so far out of all the roms i tried it has been the best for power consumption. There is a guide on the "Best" tested roms in the stickie... its a great starting point. Some of the top rated roms didnt work for me cause i needed to install some 3rd party software for work ... and they didnt work, im guessing cause there was some stuff that was stripped out.
it is not only about the rom. it is also about the battery you purchased.
I have an old original battery which is about 4 years old. I also have a cheap brand new battery I purchased from china. The 4 year old battery holds more power than the cheap brand new one. I found that the new batteries are not properly initialized, or that there is something wrong with how they report the remaining power. My new battery drops down to 60% percent very fast. Then it hangs there for a long time and then starts going down very fast again. In standby it gives me 2-3 days. With wifi turned on, I get about 20-30 minutes. The original battery gives me a couple hours even with wifi turned on.
what you say makes sense, when i called HTC about this overheating / Battery issue they told me that they didn't specifically make batteries. After reading a bunch of posts there seems to be different models from different countries of the hermes. After looking deeper into the battery issue there are also different manufacturer of batteries from different countries also. The thing is HTC can not tell you EXACTLY which on you need cause each operator has different standards for the phone some even modify the phone from HTC... When i called Expansys which was where HTC recommended i purchase the battery from they had 2 models. 1 that was 1300mah and 1350mah. I Opted for the "House" brand instead of the other one which was cheaper in price ... I guess this is the reason. Like memory when it is made in JAPAN its quality is not the same as KOREA.
I agree with regards to the battery quality. That's why I only buy Cameron Sino 1500mAh batteries for my Hermes (I buy them from Morpeth Mobiles here in the UK, they also sell on eBay and I'm sure they'd ship international if you wanted to buy from them).
They handled a recent return excellently and I've been very happy with their service.
The nice thing about the 1500mAh batteries is that they fit inside the case without a replacement back cover...
I know that using 3G can suck the life out of our phones given the awful chipset (using it on GPRS only or in 3G with a very strong signal will always yield better results) but at the moment I'm not sure if it's a problem with this particular battery or with the ROM itself - I have two others with which I can do some comparisons, so I will be doing that later. However, the battery life today has been awful. I got home earlier, and less than 12 hours after being unplugged, my phone was down to 18% battery. Just awful, the worst battery life I've ever seen from my phone. I'm not sure whether it's the fact it's Windows Mobile 6.1 or whether it's a problem with this particular battery or the way the ROM has been cooked... I'll have to do some more experiments, but I know for sure that something's not right!
The roms Also do play a part i beleive, some use up more memory and have processes running.. this uses power. Its the same as a LAPTOP. The LT will not last forever.
But im really dissapointed with the Hermes. i had NON touch screen HTC's . s640 and S621 and they used to go for days on end without charging...
i herd some back feedback on these touch screen phones also ... about the life... but every time also the 3g would murder the battery life!
Although on balance, I still don't think our phone does that badly... You realise that it's almost on-par with the more recent technology, particularly when you hear some of the battery life horror stories from iPhone users, who are dismayed that they can't get more than 12-15 hours' use out of their beloved phone when they attempt to do anything vaguely like USE it (push email, multimedia etc)...
The saga continues.
I may just buy a petrol generator on a small trolley and attach the whole thing to my belt. Now THAT's ultra portability. I could use my phone on 3G for days!
I picked up my Hermes from another xda member a week and a half ago. I flashed to CRC's stable 13.3, added HTC Home and a few other extras, nothing real system heavy or anything. Battery life was abysmal with bluetooth and 3g turned OFF, 3 email accounts syncing every 30 min, on the original 1350mah battery - I was lucky to last half a day.
I ordered a 3000mah extended battery, it arrived yesterday, I let it drain completely. It's fully charged and running now. I have bluetooth and 3g on, and my email accounts are syncing every 10 minutes. I will monitor the battery life over the next few days and report.
I too have noticed the battery meter being very eratic in CRC's stable rom for both batteries. I'm not sure if this is a battery issue or a rom issue. I may try turning 3g off as some have suggested and see if that yields better results.
My previous phone for 8 months was a Motorola Q9H, so I'm not exactly a noob to the winmo world. With the q's extended battery and bluetooth/3g on I was getting a good day and a half to two days with a rather large amount of data use in there. Honestly, as much as I love the upgrade to winmo pro, if the extended battery doesn't do the trick I'll be back to the moto for the remainder of my contract and the Hermes is going on ebay. Anyone with any suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
Yep i just installed CRCs Release 13.3 Stable... Looks nice, but i think you are right .... im stuck with this clunker for now cause i need it for work but im waiting on a Touch diamond... As soon as my company can afford it! LOLOLOL
Let us know about the 3000ma bat... Is that the one with the HUGE back door that sticks out?
I seen that online and though to myself.... WTF the phone is already too big!!!
What's your battery life like
I have an HTC TyTN that originally had Windows Mobile 5. I flashed to the rom to 6.1 pro and also noted a significant power drain that I didn't have with 5.0 or 6.0. My thoughts are that moving from 5.0 to 6.1 is much like going from Windows XP to Vista. The power demands are greater. At least that's my hunch.
Roms RULE!
Well i tried all these roms ... The Manilla roms look GREAT the touchflo is really cool!!!! But dam the phone doesnt have enuff ram or juice... So what happens if you get all kinds of bugs ect...
But if you try some of the other 6.1 roms like Black Satin or CRC which dont have touch flo ... the bat is not soo bad... The lite verisons of the roms can also be nice .... But they lack support for other software.
i prefer the classic Windows with the home cause you can use the Screen Lock feature ... specially for the HTC Herm ... i always had it in the pounch then all of a sudden i would pull it out and IE was open!!! or i was calling someone LOLOL that sucks!
i have tried lots of roms that were developed here on xda.
the best battery life was using k's final wm6.0. it was unbeatable.
the other thing is that it also depends on the type of storage version of the rom itself. the big storage roms eat your battery for breakfast but you get better performance.
if you have more today plugins they also eat up the battery
you also should, before flashing your new rom, flash the original rom. after that you flash the normal rom.
you can also check the processes running in the backgroung, maybe there is something left over that occupies the processor.
3g is a big drainer especially if you get to an area where the signal is weak and dissapears. then the phone constantly tries to find the 3g and your battery drains quickly. normaly, when i don't go online as much, i keep 3g swiched off.
now i'am using the new wm6.5 beta and i get more than one full day of battery life of normal usage. phone, mail, internet...
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Yep i just installed CRCs Release 13.3 Stable... Looks nice, but i think you are right .... im stuck with this clunker for now cause i need it for work but im waiting on a Touch diamond... As soon as my company can afford it! LOLOLOL
Let us know about the 3000ma bat... Is that the one with the HUGE back door that sticks out?
I seen that online and though to myself.... WTF the phone is already too big!!!
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Yea the extended battery turns the Hermes into a tank. It does have a nice feel to it in your hand though, and my Body Glove universal case ($15 walmart) actually fits, although its snug.
If the battery doesn't give me the life I'm looking for from CRC's 6.1, I am considering flashing to the stripped down version of ATT's 6.0 rom, or perhaps trying out the new 6.5 hybrid build from josh. Who knows, maybe CRC's rom is just a battery suck (which I can't imagine it is, it's pretty stripped down/light weight). I guess we will see after a few days here.
NICE!
i would like to try 6.5 .... but i cant seem to find any links with screen shots... If it has any sort of Touch flo ... Forget it ...
Do you have a link to 6.5 WWE?
Interesting about the comments re: big storage eating battery, and interesting also that other people using the same ROM as I am currently are also experiencing battery life problems.
I just swapped out the battery in my device - from the brand new 1500mAh battery to the older (identical) 1500mAh battery, freshly charged. As soon as I got to the Today screen, the battery was already down to 97% - and just sitting on my knee ticking over, it's already gone down to 94%. 93% now!
This is ridiculous. The battery life in WM6.0 is the same (just as bad? ) as the original WM5 ROM I had on it, it's mad to think that a simple point release of an Operating System can cause such a massive difference to battery life.
However, this ROM may have Big Storage enabled, so that could be sucking the battery life out of the poor thing. Does anybody have any pointers or links to previous discussiong about how (or why) Big Storage drains the battery more than a regular ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461680
the best 65 ROM so far and with relatively good battery life.
i had the same problem with the battery life and came to realize that NO rom is good enough in thus area.
i guess that is a small price to pay for free OS
i would also recommend you to try the original ROM for your country or WWE and check his battery life for a few days - you will soon find out that the more application you will install you'll get more processes that are running in the background = less battery life.
if you can live with the default WM - you wull get the best battery life.
Hehe, unfortunately the ROM which came with my phone was from my phone provider - T-Mobile UK - and it is awful! Broken Bluetooth, huge lag on the phone because of all the preinstalled crap, almost no free device memory, slow to respond generally... All of these new ROMs I've flashed make my device feel so quick again! It's amazing what a small change can do.
Has anybody cooked a WM6 ROM without the honeycomb Today screen interface? And is it totally impossible to go back to WM6/6.1 after you flash 6.5?
pickiki said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461680
the best 65 ROM so far and with relatively good battery life.
i had the same problem with the battery life and came to realize that NO rom is good enough in thus area.
i guess that is a small price to pay for free OS
i would also recommend you to try the original ROM for your country or WWE and check his battery life for a few days - you will soon find out that the more application you will install you'll get more processes that are running in the background = less battery life.
if you can live with the default WM - you wull get the best battery life.
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Has anyone tried this EVIL rom? 6.5? It saus dont synch with VISTA... i have vista...
Going for it
IM going for the 6.5 RIGHT now!!!!
Stay Tooooooooooooooned!
Problems problems problems!
Oh **** my phone is screwed! LOLOL
Installed 6.5 evil v10.. hehe works YEH! but when i connect to my Windows box "Vista" the phone freezes! i gotta hard boot!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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Im still in the process of choosing between the dash and the curve 8320 for tmobile...and so far im leaning more towards the dash but i see so many complaints about how windows mobile crashes like 5 times a day and its so slow that its worth getting another phone over
so ive decided to take a poll from the users to help me decide
Also ive seen lots of previous owners of the dash complaining about how the Screen broke VERY easily...are they just haters or is this true...? and how much do spare screens cost?
My opinion:
My Windows never crash - NEVER. I make everyting to crash it - Install unofficial ROMS every week, install many many programs, games, etc, edit registry to find what key for what is, end so on .
Good display
Good Radio
Good Wi-Fi
When you hit the phone to wall or to floor its normal to crash .
First problem is the battery - 2 days battery life with normal usage of wi-fi(20-30 min per day), gaming (15-20 min per day) and talking (20-30 min per day). If you use wi-fi more often, the battery will be uncharged very soon.
My phone is new but some guys here tells that the battery life become dramaticaly short after 8-9 mounths of usage - something like 6-7hours. But when this happen you just buy another battery fo 15 bugs - end of story.
Second problem is audio jack. If you don't have headset for mini USB jack, you must buy adapter for 3.5mm audio jack - someting like 10-15 bugs
Mine never "crashed" either.
The only thing that happened to me was installing some software locked it up and I had to hard reset.
If you like to tinker, and are a geek, and like lots of software, get the Dash.
If you are a pencil pusher, get the Curve.
Whatever you do, DON'T get the Shadow. You have never seen bad battery life
until you get that phone.
I have heard people talk bad about the dash. I have had my dash for about a year and a half. I just replaced the battery because it had gotten to the point where it was useless, but after reading more about battery life of the battery this was as expected. I got a desk charger for 12 and a second battery and now I have two batteries for use and I can do pretty much anything I want. As far as crashing my dash has only had to be hard reset once for a real problem and other than that it was by choice. The one time it was hard reset it was my fault as well. It hung in a reboot loop after installing some flaky software. If you want a phone that just works get the dash and get an extra battery.
galley
i had the curve 8320 and honestly its a smooth running os but it is soooo boring plus sude for the curve it is way lighter han dash but dash is so customizable any winmo phone nut my preference is dash have had mine for ove a year and a half and loving it
Mine used to lock up once in a while when I was on WM5, but it's never crashed (other than some battery related shutdowns before I replaced it) since I upgraded to WM6 and then WM6.1. With 6.1 I haven't had to reboot it once yet.
galley3175 said:
I have heard people talk bad about the dash. I have had my dash for about a year and a half. I just replaced the battery because it had gotten to the point where it was useless, but after reading more about battery life of the battery this was as expected. I got a desk charger for 12 and a second battery and now I have two batteries for use and I can do pretty much anything I want. As far as crashing my dash has only had to be hard reset once for a real problem and other than that it was by choice. The one time it was hard reset it was my fault as well. It hung in a reboot loop after installing some flaky software. If you want a phone that just works get the dash and get an extra battery.
galley
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What is real new battery price?
Where can i read about battery? . Can I do something to use one battery longer, how to make battery life longer?
littleclown said:
What is real new battery price?
Where can i read about battery? . Can I do something to use one battery longer, how to make battery life longer?
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Try puting your battery in the freezer..... of course it wouldn't do you any good in there now would it?
Battery info
This is by far the best article on battery life I have found...that doesn't make it great just a good article:
http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
As far as Batteries how much:
http://www.cellphoneshop.net
I got two batteries and a desk charger sent to me by fed ex in 24 hours or so for 43 dollars. Desk Charger was 6 dollars shipping was the big item at 17.00, but I didn't have to use fed ex. The two batteries are 12.99. I did this last week and the stuff was sent to me via fed ex. I placed the order it shipped first thing the next morning and i had it about mid day on the third day. It came from Hong Kong.
Galley
I remember on my Wizard, that certain ROMs would drain the battery more quickly...there were actually radio patches to improve battery life, and they worked.
The DASH battery is problematic...it's a wonderful phone, crippled by an inadequate battery. I'm looking to extend its life, till I talk myself into an extended battery. (I've never been a fan of the "wart on its back" style of battery)
So, is there a ROM which is known for energy efficiency? I'm currently running Kavana.
Thanks for any guidance that can be provided.
Chuck
Energy Rom Save battery
Kavana is good and i really liked it but, battery was still draining like the factory t-mobile Rom. I installed the Energy Rom and the battery last about 10% more and is a much nicer Rom.
i recomend getting a extended battery i got a 2200 mah it looks fat but its worth it
i believe i saw a thread on it already but since this one is open, can you reccomend a good extended non fat battery? (like a site that sells them)
megacapacity.com is a big seller
thanks, i wonder is the 1050ma battery is worth it.
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thanks, i wonder is the 1050ma battery is worth it.
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I've heard this is a good battery, is the fattest you can get without having to fatten up the phone. http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi13tmdhm.htm
I'm waiting for my battery to hit the crapper to get one.
roloracer said:
I've heard this is a good battery, is the fattest you can get without having to fatten up the phone. http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi13tmdhm.htm
I'm waiting for my battery to hit the crapper to get one.
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I have this battery and it's good quality. I'd recommend them over the fat-ass ones that double the phone's size and screw up its attractive feel and profile.
I just finished my first full day with the Energy ROM and I can attest that it is more energy efficient than the Kavana ROM. Kinda' pretty, too, but I'm not sure where all the icons are, yet.
This is the first day in a while, that I didn't have to charge my phone mid-day.
NICE!
Now, I'll save up my pocket change and purchase an extended battery. A shame, since my brand new holster won't hold it, any more.
THANKS!
Chuck
roloracer said:
I've heard this is a good battery, is the fattest you can get without having to fatten up the phone. http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi13tmdhm.htm
I'm waiting for my battery to hit the crapper to get one.
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holy crap 1300ma and i thought the 1100 i saw on e bay was a good size. i just dont know if im comitted to the 40 bucks. gotta get a grip on how many days i can get on my dash on regular use.
Seidio 1300mah dash battery is the best purchase you could make
I really wouldn't give the 40$ price of the Seidio a second thought. It is well worth it if you do not want a unsightly buldge in your battery compartment, and want long battery life.
I don't use my phone much at all. I just browse the net a bit, make a few calls. I can usually grab the phone 7 am monday and it will last until friday 6pm. Before this with the standard battery it would last 7am till 3pm the next day. I don't know how I get almost 3 times the battery life but there you go.
If I stream music from the web it lasts about 4-5 hours. Or I listen to music stored on the flash almost all day and still have more than half the battery.
Yianaki said:
I really wouldn't give the 40$ price of the Seidio a second thought. It is well worth it if you do not want a unsightly buldge in your battery compartment, and want long battery life.
I don't use my phone much at all. I just browse the net a bit, make a few calls. I can usually grab the phone 7 am monday and it will last until friday 6pm. Before this with the standard battery it would last 7am till 3pm the next day. I don't know how I get almost 3 times the battery life but there you go.
If I stream music from the web it lasts about 4-5 hours. Or I listen to music stored on the flash almost all day and still have more than half the battery.
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i think i might go with the 1100 off e bay for 12 dollars. i should be able to get three days off normal use. which is more than plenty.
Jeez...with normal LIGHT use, no bluetooth or wifi, and the regular battery, I'm lucky to get 8-10 hours of use. I admittedly live out in the country, but routinely have 3-4 bars of signal strength.
The battery is brand new, and head and shoulders above the original one, or I'd think it was a bad battery. Stock capacity, though.
-- Chuck Knight
Heres the truth yes some roms are drainers but the kavana on a S621 Pro is bomb for battery Life , you can overclock to 264 stable and the battery will last all day, in mind that you're not constintly on it, wifi batt life is 12 hours straight, set on 20 mins auto disconect and reconnect, you can spend some time through out the whole day on ur phones browsers on wifi, gprs i would imagen would last longer on our phones then wifi if u get a auto disconnector.., also huge tip, never charge your phone via USB, i wont go into why but this will kill your batteries Life.
U can turn off USB charging on the phone so syncing wont charge your phone, i recommand if u need to boost the battery use the wall charger!
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Amazing. No wifi, no bluetooth, and just AT&T cell phone use of 90 minutes or less in a day will kill my phone in under 10 hours.
That's with a fully charged, brand new, stock battery.
I live in a rural area, so maybe I'm having to use a higher radio power level...but even so, this battery life is just pathetic. This phone, I love. But, the battery life, I hate.
Apparently I've *got* to change to a higher mAh battery.
-- Chuck Knight
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Amazing. No wifi, no bluetooth, and just AT&T cell phone use of 90 minutes or less in a day will kill my phone in under 10 hours.
That's with a fully charged, brand new, stock battery.
I live in a rural area, so maybe I'm having to use a higher radio power level...but even so, this battery life is just pathetic. This phone, I love. But, the battery life, I hate.
Apparently I've *got* to change to a higher mAh battery.
-- Chuck Knight
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Do you have all power settings on with screen dimer aswell running when you can? have you used celetask to turn off your scren when u give ur phone a break, u on Kavana rom ?
where can i find this energy rom?!
I am using a T-mobile Dash flashed into an original htc excalibur rom .. and since you guys are talking soo well about this energy rom i would like to give it a try... is there anybody among you kind enouth to host a download of it here?!
Thank you!!!
HTCP4000PPC said:
Do you have all power settings on with screen dimer aswell running when you can? have you used celetask to turn off your scren when u give ur phone a break, u on Kavana rom ?
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Yes all power settings are on, and scrn dimmer aswell, celetask i used before i found it improveed batt life.. when u used celetask to turn off the screen, celtalk will turn the screen off but keep wifi going.. for those who dont know this.. and yes Kavana the best 621 S620 rom.
But nevercharge phone at night wth ur USB on ur pc, never do that.
Will surge the battery when the battery is fully charged, will just keep pumping the battery, and i recommand disabling the charging option when u sync.
Has anyone else had any battery life problems with the new Rom by ookba? I have one of those extended life batteries in my excalibur ( it is a 2400 mAh ) and I have found it loses power much quicker after I installed the new Rom by ookba. By the way I love the Rom it is awesome! But I was wondering if there is something I could do to increase the battery life more like it was befor I installed the new Rom. I do not want to take the new Rom off cause it Rocks!
I would like to have the battery last a bit longer though.. I don't know if it is the titanium panels or what that is making it lose power so quick after I have it on all day ( with bt off and wi-fi only occasionally ) it drops to 70 to 60 percent power by nightime. I have the normal stuff set up on the phone to use the best possible battery life but uses a lot more battery than befor I put the new Rom by ookba in.
I am looking for some answers but do not want to take this super Rom off my phone.
Thanks!
Personally my battery life has drastically improved since I moved from one of the Rose's Roms to 3VO's Rom. I had no idea that a Rom could make such a big difference in terms of battery life.
My battery life has gone down since upgrade to "3VO Rom ver 2.50 080809"(But still I like this rom). It only lasts 18hrs without any extensive usage. I will suspect that its radio which is causing this drain.
ramfan43 said:
I have one of those extended life batteries in my excalibur ( it is a 2400 mAh ) and I have found it loses power much quicker after I installed the new Rom by ookba.
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That is reallly odd. I have a 1550 mAh extended battery, and in one day of decent usage I only go down to 80% on a daily basis.
What I do notice is that once I hit 35-40%, battery usage increases insanely (but i am assuming that this is due to some anti-fail methods used to preserve the phones functions and whatever you may be working on , but i may be wrong). But besides that, i have had no real power issues...
jharag said:
My battery life has gone down since upgrade to "3VO Rom ver 2.50 080809"(But still I like this rom). It only lasts 18hrs without any extensive usage. I will suspect that its radio which is causing this drain.
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same thing here. i switched back to 2.0 and have been very happy with the battery life...
This has been a well documented issue with the 2.50 version of the ROM. Ookba is aware and has mentioned reverting to an older core but keeping the same UI tweaks and feel of 2.50. If the drain is that much of a concern try version 2.00, 071809. It supposedly has a 'hole' in it but I never noticed it. The icons are a little different and there aren't as many UI tweaks but I had GREAT battery life on it. But if you can deal with it for a while Ookba I am sure will have something for us to try when he gets done over on the Maple page. The Dash 3G needs 3VO too ya know. So its up to you. Try the other ROM that doesn't have as much eye candy but has better life until a new release, or deal with the battery drain like the rest of us and wait for a new release. I just close out my programs as much as I can. I have a 960 maH and I get about 24 hours with regular use. Up to you.
battery life is so good so far
the battery life was good and improved and the mobile changed totally as i feel i got new one thanks for 3vo rom
I have noticed that my battery is also going low very quickly after this rom upgrade. today I'v removed omap clock settings from startup and looking what will happen. I think the OMAP is eating more power from my battery. the battery is 960mah and lasted 3-4 days with previous NRG rom.
well i completely agree i am using same battery and it was draining very quickly so i switched back to kavana 6.1 and every thing was normal again
idinaxui said:
I have noticed that my battery is also going low very quickly after this rom upgrade. today I'v removed omap clock settings from startup and looking what will happen. I think the OMAP is eating more power from my battery. the battery is 960mah and lasted 3-4 days with previous NRG rom.
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I improved battery performance by using the OMAP Clock GUI and setting the low-end to 180 and the high-end to 252.
I agree, it must have something to do with the last version because the previous versions didn't drain so quickly...
I disabled omap and nothing significant happened, during the night in standby mode the battery was drained from 60% to 25%. now I disabled titanium panels and changed back to sliding panels. And there is IT! the battery life is much better, I think the "power eater" was titanium panel. You can give it try and post results.
remove check status mscr
its in the startup folder. helped me alot. before with my phone habits i would make it about 3hrs if that.
ookba posted this in his ROM thread.
idinaxui said:
I disabled omap and nothing significant happened, during the night in standby mode the battery was drained from 60% to 25%. now I disabled titanium panels and changed back to sliding panels. And there is IT! the battery life is much better, I think the "power eater" was titanium panel. You can give it try and post results.
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There's no way that's possible. If anything, HTC Sliding Panels will eat more battery than CHome because it's a loyout no longer native to the OS. checkstatus.mscr is the culprit. Almost positive.
I Do Completly Agree ...
Yes I feel the 3VO Rom Ver 2.50.080809.. makes the effect on the performance of the Battery Life, I would indeed like make a STRONG APPEAL on behalf of all the users of 3VO Rom Ver 2.50.080809, to MR. OOBKA that he should get us some way of it , because we love and admire his hard work a Lot.
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Karan Adhikari
World War-III - No option but only WIN
Battery Patch
Guys, I built a patch file that makes a few changes in an attempt to help battery life. Please install it and reboot.
Also could be found on the second post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=224547&d=1252178358
well i'm 3 hours into testing the patch.. gonna see if i can beat my normal 24-36 hours limit. i'll let you know tomorrow if i see any improvement
for me its a big improvement almost half day since i last charge my dash and with normal used im on 93%, before it will eat up 20% just texting from time to time.
tomorow i'll post again, before i can used my dash with the newest rom for just 1 1/2 day or less.
*70% left for 24 hrs
im in the middle of figuring out something. Its highly unlikely this is ookba's problem but, i installed the patch and got great battery life for 2 days about 5 hours longer than normal. I fully recharged before i went to bed and woke up this morning with my battery at 38% thats a 62% lose in less than 8 hours... anyone have any ideas. I'm used to running 18-30 hours non stop on this battery
2.50 and 2.60 rom update
i keep getting an error on my phone from time to time
Tmobile Dash 3G Mapl100
error: Cannot find window "DesktopExplorerWindow"
ive done hard reset's and everything still comes up on both roms
Hi Guys,
I actually have a HD7m but my dad quite liked the 4.3 inch screen and was now asking me to buy a similar handset. We went out and he was quite impressed with the Desire HD.
But the catch, when I researched online, I found out the battery issue on practically every thread and community.
Now my problem: He is an old man and can get cranky at times. Currently owes a Nokia C6 and is pissed with the touch screen. So is it wise to buy him Desire HD even with the bad battery life?
Or worse case scenario, I swap my HD7 for his Desire HD????
Should I go for it or should can you guys suggest something else equally fluid??
It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
FirefighterDown said:
It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
If its battery life your after, buy a Johns Phone, you get 3 weeks between charges.
After you battery has been "run in" and calibrated you will get at least a day with light usage. Remember this is a powerful smartphone.
circleofomega said:
Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
Hawks556 said:
The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Thanx so much...that was really helpful...albeit your explanation on battery life, I just wanted to add that he was in love with the 4.3 inch screen...and only HD7 is the other device with that screen size...So I think Desire S is also a good option...let me check with him...
Again, Thanx!
depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Absolutely right. I'm tired of hearing people evangelising that the DHD's battery is fine. It patently is not. Even when you severly rein back the device's features (features which HTC flaunted to get us all hooked), one ends up with 25-30% at the day's end.... And if you have a 'heavy' day of calls/browsing etc, you'll have to top up to get through the day.
But I still regard HTC as just about the best of a bad bunch...
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
andyharney said:
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
I don't Say ! ^^
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depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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If you want to receive emails and text, I find that GSM is fine for that. If you want to go internet browsing, just switch on to 3G.
Smartphones these days have basically a different definition of battery life to the old nokia symbian and similar phones of old. Those could go up to a week. Smartphones on the other hand are considered awesome if they can last 3.
I do have to say ultimately I think HTC sold the battery life a bit short on the DHD. 1230mah I think is really just making way for all the other top-of-the-line features that it had when it came out.
HTC have released a great number of variants of this phone now, all with better iterations of design and also with bigger batteries because of this.
1400-1500mah (or even above) I think is really what you need with a 4.3" display phone. 1230 would be far more acceptable for a <4" display. Although it can be made quite livable for a day or two with an excellent custom rom, I don't really think it's enough for a basic consumer using the standard rom. That and the speaker/audio out are the two biggest pitfalls of the DHD imo.
Sensation is now HTC's newest 4.3" phone which has a good 1500mah battery. I hope Sense 3.0 doesn't wear it down too fast!
Ultimate thoughts: Although it's a great phone, I think it's a power user's phone more than anything. You will definitely only get the best out of it by customising to it's best potential, which is also when you get acceptable battery life. If you don't, it really does seem a waste.
Hawks556 said:
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life
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I had the same sort of expectancy out of the battery using it moderately during a day at work out of the box. However with custom ROM installed I have found the battery to last easily the whole day with the same usage and probably have approx 40 - 50% left after 15hrs on battery.
just my 2c
andyharney said:
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I am extremely sorry but I disagree with u completely. You are talking as if you buy an expensive car but dont drive it too much as it eats a lot of fuel. If you want to just drive around, why dont you just get yourself a mopet. The point is, i have bought an expensive car TO DRIVE it around. If I buy a smartphone and not use its SMART features, why am I buying it for??? If I practically shut all the reasons why I bought this phone, WHY the hell am I buying it??
There is an old saying that comes to mind that it takes guts to stay in the minority. If the battery is flawed, ACCEPT it.
Anyways, I have got my answer. Thanx for your reply nonetheless.
As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
jpinky said:
As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
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Hey thanx man...But was just wondering, with very moderate usage, will it still be over in no time?
Also, the other thing worrying me is the memory card issue...I cant afford to lose one card after another once I buy an expensive phone, u know what I mean...
The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
Hawks556 said:
The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
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After receiving a replacement 'new' phone, and having problems with my SD Card from the very second it switched on, I complained to HTC about the issue and the man on the end of the phone admitted around 500,000 phones that had been dispatched has been shipped with KNOWN issues & SD Card incapabilities. If you went out today and bought a brand spanking new card, in theory the phone WOULD NOT and the SD Card WOULD NOT fail.
mjt said:
I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
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I don't mean to hijack you here mate, but you assume/claim that:
'HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job.'
Well I take it that you assume this on the basis that Leprechauns are real and are roaming New York city as we speak? If HTC were doing any market research at all, they would realize that even devices with smaller screens have a bigger battery than the one they have put into the DhD, including the Desire Z & Desire's batteries?
I remember when I was looking at reviews for the original Desire, as I fancied one, the main complaints were the battery life, and the fact people only got a day's charge on it. So I thought fair do's, big screen, big price to pay? If HTC had done any research, they would have realized that people wanted better battery life, a better quality screen, better sound quality?
You want to know what the real reason is behind HTC putting a small battery inside the Device? Well it's the fact that the entire thing was rushed, and I mean rushed? There's evidence of this in the build quality, the software, the placing of different things within the phone and also the bad batch issues HTC experienced.
The HD was leaked in September/October, it was released by November, this is not normal for any device that becomes 'leaked'. HTC used a bad screen, imported most of the software from the original Desire, obviously making edits to make it Sense 2.0, but you can clearly see they didn't change everything? If you set the Android Pattern Lock Screen, you can see that it doesn't fill the whole screen, the IME is the standard HTC one with some arrows slapped in at the bottom? They didn't even change the size of the keyboard?, this is more evident if you use the IME in landscape mode, its hard.
What sort of company places an Antenna in the Battery Cover? It's true, remove your Battery Cover and you'll loose all signal? Pretty risky move for HTC, seeing as the Battery Cover is VERY easy to 'accidently' break, and frankly your screwed then right? It's like they designed the phone, forgot the Antenna, then quickly though 'Where the f*** is this going?' and decided to place it there? In my opinion, and a few others, they did this with the battery, they made the device too thin, and in reality they just couldn't fit everything in. The Desire S which is slightly thicker, packs a brilliant battery. Problem solved.
The build quality of the phone, is not one of a £500 price tag. Some parts of the phone squeak whereas others just do not feel adequate to the pricing of the device. There again we live in a world where no matter how much you pay, something always seems to be wrong.
Sorry if I have offended any HTC lovers, all attacks on my and opinions against me are welcome, don't get me wrong, I love my phone and I can cope with charging the battery every night. Chao.
Hi all,
I'm a noob who was happy to get a BA to use instead of a Pocket PC/ MDAII. I thought the battery was no good so bought two new ones (1490mAh).
But even these only give me about 2-3 hours, with all possible power saving settings in use (brightness, beams, bluetooth off, power down if unused etc.).
I've searched and read up a lot on here, it's an excellent forum. I've flashed the ROM from the original 1.12 WWE (I think) to various ones I've found on here using WM6 and WM5 claiming to give good life, still getting nothing better than 3 hours even when left completely idle .
So is there a common hardware fault known for draining the battery? It certainly seems battery life is a common topic here for BA, but I can't see a phone that gives less than say 12 hrs use per charge having ANY success in the marketplace, yet the BA is regarded as pretty popular.
I'm about to bin it and go back to the PPC, or worse the Nokia.
Any ideas please for troubleshooting or remedies before I do that? One strange thing is even when it's idle the back is slightly warm to touch, so I'm thinking of either an invisible rogue application running or a parasitic current drain in the hardware.
All help and suggestions gratefully received.
henrysheil said:
Hi all,
I'm a noob who was happy to get a BA to use instead of a Pocket PC/ MDAII. I thought the battery was no good so bought two new ones (1490mAh).
But even these only give me about 2-3 hours, with all possible power saving settings in use (brightness, beams, bluetooth off, power down if unused etc.).
I've searched and read up a lot on here, it's an excellent forum. I've flashed the ROM from the original 1.12 WWE (I think) to various ones I've found on here using WM6 and WM5 claiming to give good life, still getting nothing better than 3 hours even when left completely idle .
So is there a common hardware fault known for draining the battery? It certainly seems battery life is a common topic here for BA, but I can't see a phone that gives less than say 12 hrs use per charge having ANY success in the marketplace, yet the BA is regarded as pretty popular.
I'm about to bin it and go back to the PPC, or worse the Nokia.
Any ideas please for troubleshooting or remedies before I do that? One strange thing is even when it's idle the back is slightly warm to touch, so I'm thinking of either an invisible rogue application running or a parasitic current drain in the hardware.
All help and suggestions gratefully received.
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to solve problem of battery life on your device, much better check at >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1145499&postcount=2
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SOLUTION found
The clue was the warm battery
A repair guy over the phone said it was probably water damaged, sure enough the "white spot" inside was showing VOID in red.
So I opened it up including some of the sheet metal covers on the board, and used cotton buds and methylated spirits, cleaned off some deposits.
Put it back together and it's now had >100 hrs of standby time and is still over 50% on battery meter.
Now on to finding a ROM I like and starting to use it.