Charging while phone is off? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development

Hi,
Yesterday I came across strange issue. In WinMo, when the phone was off it was charging normally untill the battery was fully charged...
After Flashing Android to NAND I can not do that. It seems to be charging (orange LED is on) for about 10 sec. and than the Display blinks with white light and the phone dies completely.
The only thing you can do after that is to pull out the battery and put it back. Than you can turn the phone on and charge as usually.
What is that issues origin? Battery driver? Or another thingie in Firmware? It seems to be quite strange, that it lights the display even with the phone being off...

a.s.j said:
Hi,
Yesterday I came across strange issue. In WinMo, when the phone was off it was charging normally untill the battery was fully charged...
After Flashing Android to NAND I can not do that. It seems to be charging (orange LED is on) for about 10 sec. and than the Display blinks with white light and the phone dies completely.
The only thing you can do after that is to pull out the battery and put it back. Than you can turn the phone on and charge as usually.
What is that issues origin? Battery driver? Or another thingie in Firmware? It seems to be quite strange, that it lights the display even with the phone being off...
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i have this problem too

a.s.j said:
Hi,
Yesterday I came across strange issue. In WinMo, when the phone was off it was charging normally untill the battery was fully charged...
After Flashing Android to NAND I can not do that. It seems to be charging (orange LED is on) for about 10 sec. and than the Display blinks with white light and the phone dies completely.
The only thing you can do after that is to pull out the battery and put it back. Than you can turn the phone on and charge as usually.
What is that issues origin? Battery driver? Or another thingie in Firmware? It seems to be quite strange, that it lights the display even with the phone being off...
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My Kaiser does the exact same thing, and what it is, is for some reason the phone is booting back up. I came across this the other day, and my phone did the exact same thing described, and not sure what I did, but I managed to turn on the screen and Android was booted up to the lock screen.
It's even done it when I plug the phone into A/C power without the battery even connected.

so here is why it happens, basicly what would happen is in WinMo when the phone would turn off and boot into a charge loop and it would charge and shut off when finished our kernel doesnt have this built into it so it just boots like normal when power is applied

thoughtlesskyle said:
so here is why it happens, basicly what would happen is in WinMo when the phone would turn off and boot into a charge loop and it would charge and shut off when finished our kernel doesnt have this built into it so it just boots like normal when power is applied
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yup... happens to all of us, its not a big deal... there are a lot of worse problems devs are trying to solve... maybe whn they reach a point where the kernel is more stable they should pay attention to the details like this (and the camera driver, camcoder... etc)

thoughtlesskyle said:
so here is why it happens, basicly what would happen is in WinMo when the phone would turn off and boot into a charge loop and it would charge and shut off when finished our kernel doesnt have this built into it so it just boots like normal when power is applied
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Well that answers my question... Yah knew it was something inside the kernel, just didn't know if it was a bug, or something that wasn't implemented yet.

Of course this is low priority task but I just wanted to have that confirmed to know, that my oldie holdie is not broken or what

Quick question:
How old is your kaiser and/or battery ?

About 5 years with original battery
Sent from my Full Android on Kaiser using XDA App

It used to be that if Linux NBH was flashed, the phone wouldn't charge at all when off. Then somebody (dzo I believe) added code to the kernel so that the phone turns on when it is plugged in, so that it will charge. That used to work, with a full complete boot. Now, as you say, the phone tries to wake up but doesn't really make it. Maybe we should look into that, we should be able to fix that, maybe by looking carefully at the git logs for the past six months or so.
There are bigger problems, like data reliability, but if somebody wants a problem in the kernel that they can study and perhaps fix, this is a good one to start with.

To correctly charge the battery system need to be on so i can do this:
start kernel
in initrd:
if it found the power connected then the phone wait for power button (trying the sleep mode)
else
start the system
i need some testing to do it.
Windows do quite the same thing.

l1q1d said:
To correctly charge the battery system need to be on so i can do this:
start kernel
in initrd:
if it found the power connected then the phone wait for power button (trying the sleep mode)
else
start the system
i need some testing to do it.
Windows do quite the same thing.
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If only the real code was as easy as the pseudocode =)

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battery issue

hi guys,
i just checked out my ARTE160 battery. when i checked out the output voltage, i found that its 3.95~4.2 v when full charged. i jus checked this out with a multi meter. the battery is designed for 3.7v only, so does this mean there is a prob???
thx guys
I'm not a pro, but I think this means that everything is alright with the battery. I would rather worry if the voltage was below 3,7 V - that would definitely mean a problem.
well i find wat u say is logical but still im having some small prob in my phone.....
it keeps working well and suddenly the phone service alone wont work and gets hanged (means no calls and sms) after couple of mins mobile just researches the network and joins.
the prob is when this thing happens and someone calls me the call is ringing but i dont get any ring or alert in my mobile.......
also sms is not delivered kater but is lost completely......
i jus looked out somewhere that these probs may be due to battery........
Battery issue reply...........
nataraj_latest said:
hi guys,
i just checked out my ARTE160 battery. when i checked out the output voltage, i found that its 3.95~4.2 v when full charged. i jus checked this out with a multi meter. the battery is designed for 3.7v only, so does this mean there is a prob???
thx guys
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I had to get a new battery and performed a hard-reset on my phone and all was well after that. make sure you have a back-up on your numbers....
well savain
thanks for ur reply.....
did u have the same kind of prob like the over voltage???
savain01 said:
I had to get a new battery and performed a hard-reset on my phone and all was well after that. make sure you have a back-up on your numbers....
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I've just chcecked the output voltage of my battery - when 45% charged - the voltage was 3.82 V.
in my opinion, your problem has nothing to do with the battery. I had same problem that you described - I switched to WM6 from WM5 - it did the trick.
now it hangs very seldom.
I guess that would help you (at least if you're using WM5).
oh but im using 6.1 at present
its TOM'S ROM.....
...
*for battery issue;
buy a new battery and
charge <----- device must be off!...
when green led light shows, its done..
this should sort your battery issue..
* for issue with - ''suddenly the phone service alone wont work and gets hanged..''
try a hard reset, if it still happens, open the device - open through the back of the device and simply give it a clean, ensure all connections are connecting, in other words, scratch the pins inside device if they need it.. assemble correctly and hope this helps..
-use cotton buds, the ones you use to clean your ears with..
-use a pin/needle to scratch connections..
*sounds like a hardware issue, not rom issue so cleaning inside the device is recommended..
*I've fixed my p3300 plenty of times now by just simply cleaning inside it.
- including the ''not charging'' and ''no sim'' issue people have experienced..
Not charging
HI Geeks, I have a problem with my blackstone battery. It is getting charged only up to 50 to 55 percent. I kept on charger for one ful night. But no use. I am using official ROM. Can you suggest any solution for that?
Help PLZ
I tired both the charger and the USB cable. Still the problem remains.
A new problem
Now i am facing a new problem. When i switch off the Touch HD, it will not start. When i press the power button, it shows "Smart Mobility" then it will go off. I tried once and pressed the power button again. It lasted some more time, reaching to the HTC logo screen.
Then I Connect the phone using the usb cable to the desktop and press the power button. WOW. it started without any problem. Can you help me to get around this problem?
Roy Varghese
royi386 said:
Now i am facing a new problem. When i switch off the Touch HD, it will not start. When i press the power button, it shows "Smart Mobility" then it will go off. I tried once and pressed the power button again. It lasted some more time, reaching to the HTC logo screen.
Then I Connect the phone using the usb cable to the desktop and press the power button. WOW. it started without any problem. Can you help me to get around this problem?
Roy Varghese
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*for battery issue;
buy a new battery and
charge <----- device must be off!...
when green led light shows, its done..
this should sort your battery issue..
i have a weird kind of battery issue
i plug in my AC adapter
the orange light lights up, for about 5 seconds
then , it keeps flashes orange
i power up my phone for about 5 seconds, it dies
any charge method will keep flashing orange
is my phone battery dead?
Does anyone have my issue ???
I am charging and charging and the indication shows as charging plus the percentage is increasing like normal. However, when I restart the system it shows more than charge percent. Most cases it shows 100%. For instance, show 82 % but after restart device shows 92 or 100%. Please help me experts. Thank a lot in advance for taking your time to reply

Battery Died Over Night?

I started with 80% on Windows Mobile, launched Android, and slept with it sleeping on Android.
I had it under my pillow and I did notice that the phone was hot whenever I picked it up (After an hourish)
In the morning when I wake up the phone is dead.
Any explanation? The phone's backlight was fully off and the phone was locked. Normally on Windows Mobile 80% battery can last me two full days before I need to charge again.
I thought the full sleep was completed on the Android?
Also it shows that it's charging even after I unplug it? I'm using the latest Android on Launcherpro
o my gosh do some effing research first!!!!!! that answer is in the android build thread.
but to answer your questions....
full sleep is working its just that they still havent got the battery voltage or something like that working right so it still drains and its hot cause the drivers still arent working right in some things.
but all of this is from the top of my head so im pretty sure that im wrong with one of those but just go to the build thread use the SEARCH button..
and have fun with your android
Do you know how hard it is to find anything in that thread... It's like finding a needle in a haystack.
Okay so I just booted it without my charger plugged in and it shows that it is charging? But no LED.
I open Battery Indicator and it says "Charging from 32%" and it stays there... Never changes.
Now then if I plug in my charger... nothing changes. No LED even. Just "Charging from 32%" as before... Really weird.
andershizzle said:
Okay so I just booted it without my charger plugged in and it shows that it is charging? But no LED.
I open Battery Indicator and it says "Charging from 32%" and it stays there... Never changes.
Now then if I plug in my charger... nothing changes. No LED even. Just "Charging from 32%" as before... Really weird.
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There are many posts concerning the current battery issues with the Rhodium. I suggest reading them. There's even a sort of fix if you don't mind losing wifi.
roofuskit said:
There are many posts concerning the current battery issues with the Rhodium. I suggest reading them. There's even a sort of fix if you don't mind losing wifi.
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Actually you don't lose WiFi anymore.
I used that battery fix but I'm still having this same issue... It says I'm charging even if I'm not.
I think my phone didn't enter deep sleep mode... for one of two reasons... I had windows live messenger running.. or it thought it was charging, and it doesn't sleep while it charges? Dunno.
Maybe I'll re-install it all..
I fixed my issue. I figure it had something to do with the update utility in WinMo. I re-installed Android and added only the zimage from the Battery fix and ran that, and everything works. The first time I had updated the Android using the utility first. All good now. Weird stuff.

Battery icon or battery information not showing charging but still is why?

Just trying to get my head around this dumb battery charging issue. Seems that some Roms the wife's kindle charges but doesn't say/show anything is actually charging. Some Roms show charging under battery information. All Roms don't show battery charging icon. Also the light on the power button works or doesn't work. Can someone explain all this so I can understand.. Its pretty bizarre.. Thanks
I will try to first give you the short answer then I will make an attempt at the long one. The charging issue is directly related to the kernel.... the long one... the icon will not indicate charging ever... go to about phone or tablet and status plug it in if it still says discharging unplug and replug if it still say discharging reboot then try again.. its common for the light to flicker amber when charging and not remain static at some point it will go green near the end of the charge... bottom line its just the nature of the beast...high usage fast or slow charge erratic indications all part of the animal...
Thepooch said:
I will try to first give you the short answer then I will make an attempt at the long one. The charging issue is directly related to the kernel.... the long one... the icon will not indicate charging ever... go to about phone or tablet and status plug it in if it still says discharging unplug and replug if it still say discharging reboot then try again.. its common for the light to flicker amber when charging and not remain static at some point it will go green near the end of the charge... bottom line its just the nature of the beast...high usage fast or slow charge erratic indications all part of the animal...
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Thanks for the explanation! What you mentioned is exactly what we have been seeing. It does charge so knowing its kernel related thing works for me.
I'm having a similar problem, I know it charges by going to the settings menu. The problem comes from when the Kindle goes to sleep, I always had a light come out of the button, but after installing Jandycane the light wont come on. It's hard to know if it is charging or not, anyone have the same problem?
HerSpace said:
I'm having a similar problem, I know it charges by going to the settings menu. The problem comes from when the Kindle goes to sleep, I always had a light come out of the button, but after installing Jandycane the light wont come on. It's hard to know if it is charging or not, anyone have the same problem?
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I described how to work around it in my above post
HerSpace said:
I'm having a similar problem, I know it charges by going to the settings menu. The problem comes from when the Kindle goes to sleep, I always had a light come out of the button, but after installing Jandycane the light wont come on. It's hard to know if it is charging or not, anyone have the same problem?
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Everyone has the same problem that's just how it is on JB and I believe ICS roms. The kernel needs fixed, but there are other issues that are most likely higher priority.
Sent from my ICS Dinc2
I have Hashcode's kernel and have flashed many ROMs. I'm on Hellfire's now . I find that if you charge in TWRP the light acts normal, stays red while charging and turns green at 90%. It may be my particular kf but try it , it might work.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using Tapatalk

[Q] Phone wont turn on after battery depletion

I am having troubles booting my phone after the battery depletes and the phone shuts off. My Optimus G is rooted with lifeless Rom v14 and I have TWRP recovery.
So once the phone dies, I plug it in to charge, and the phone screen automaticaly comes on and the LG logo flashes for a second, but nothing happens. The phone doesn't actually charge. If I remove the phone from the charger, the display still stays on until I hard reset it. I cannot access recovery mode or download mode for some reason. Usually when my phone dies, and I plug it in, it will flash the LG logo, keep the display on for a few seconds, and then shut down and restart and show the battery logo charging. I am not getting that this time, and I can't seem to do anything to get it operating again. There also isn't a red LED light to represent charging either. If anyone has had this issue before or knows how to fix it, I'd really appreciate the information right now.
Thanks
Mexicouger said:
I am having troubles booting my phone after the battery depletes and the phone shuts off. My Optimus G is rooted with lifeless Rom v14 and I have TWRP recovery.
So once the phone dies, I plug it in to charge, and the phone screen automaticaly comes on and the LG logo flashes for a second, but nothing happens. The phone doesn't actually charge. If I remove the phone from the charger, the display still stays on until I hard reset it. I cannot access recovery mode or download mode for some reason. Usually when my phone dies, and I plug it in, it will flash the LG logo, keep the display on for a few seconds, and then shut down and restart and show the battery logo charging. I am not getting that this time, and I can't seem to do anything to get it operating again. There also isn't a red LED light to represent charging either. If anyone has had this issue before or knows how to fix it, I'd really appreciate the information right now.
Thanks
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I had the exact same problem last night. (weird) I held down the power button for ~15 sec, and let the phone sit for about 15 min. I booted it and got it to load into TWRP and then put it on the charger. Let it charge in TWRP to around 10% and then booted into android and let it charge overnight. I had a mild panic attack at first but all is good now. Stupid software dependent charging.
Mexicouger said:
I am having troubles booting my phone after the battery depletes and the phone shuts off. My Optimus G is rooted with lifeless Rom v14 and I have TWRP recovery.
So once the phone dies, I plug it in to charge, and the phone screen automaticaly comes on and the LG logo flashes for a second, but nothing happens. The phone doesn't actually charge. If I remove the phone from the charger, the display still stays on until I hard reset it. I cannot access recovery mode or download mode for some reason. Usually when my phone dies, and I plug it in, it will flash the LG logo, keep the display on for a few seconds, and then shut down and restart and show the battery logo charging. I am not getting that this time, and I can't seem to do anything to get it operating again. There also isn't a red LED light to represent charging either. If anyone has had this issue before or knows how to fix it, I'd really appreciate the information right now.
Thanks
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r.asimi said:
I had the exact same problem last night. (weird) I held down the power button for ~15 sec, and let the phone sit for about 15 min. I booted it and got it to load into TWRP and then put it on the charger. Let it charge in TWRP to around 10% and then booted into android and let it charge overnight. I had a mild panic attack at first but all is good now. Stupid software dependent charging.
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Ok, that's definitely weird... I came to XDA because of this, it happened to me 2x and I did the same as you, let it charge in CWM till 12% ( shower time) and reboot the system. I'm not sure what exactly is causing the issue, it shouldn't be a software problem.
To try to find what's going on, lets talk about what we have in common:
ROM: Houston stock international (stock 4.1.1)
Charger: Non LG charger (htc)
Cheers

SMW3 wont start

Hey all. I made a recovery flash, and for some reason im not able to start the device. Is very hot, like chargin (but it's not), I press hole button and at 8 seg of press ir vibrate 1 time, ando do nothing more...
My computer dont recognize it so i cant adb it
SOLVED.
Seems there is a bug. When you power off and connect the watch to charge it, it starts the charging screen. If you start the device connected and with this screen, enter in a loop black screen draining battery. Until the battery is not at 0% the watch don't start.
I can confirm there is some kind of bug when you are charging your SW3, I did as you said and worked for me. now my SW3 is working again! thanks!
mdomfu said:
SOLVED.
Seems there is a bug. When you power off and connect the watch to charge it, it starts the charging screen. If you start the device connected and with this screen, enter in a loop black screen draining battery. Until the battery is not at 0% the watch don't start.
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Have same problem, but do i understood corectly: i just need to leave swr50 for some time (how long?) till battery drains to 0% ? how will i know that? and what to do next? charge it? Thanks.
amdas said:
Have same problem, but do i understood corectly: i just need to leave swr50 for some time (how long?) till battery drains to 0% ? how will i know that? and what to do next? charge it? Thanks.
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After ~2 hours turned watch on and it started like nothing happened before. Battery was empty ~1%, then plugged to charge and now works. So i hope problem solved... :/

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