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i was looking around and found that evo n other android phone can dual boot so i wondering if some one can come up with dual boot for g2
You can just use nandroid if you want to switch. It's not too bad to test out and play between ROMs.
Stryder5 said:
You can just use nandroid if you want to switch. It's not too bad to test out and play between ROMs.
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i hate installing apps over n over.....
its more practical to use nandroid
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i hate installing apps over n over.....
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What are you talking about? You wouldn't need to if you backup the roms properly.
Why in the world would you want to dual boot? Just nandroid.
im just saying it would be cool to have cuz its call dual boot n something new to try.......u guys dont? thats fine.......i wish someone would tho
I don't think I'm performing nandroid backups properly either. I always have to reinstall apps like the OP. Can someone please tell me the right way? Thanks!
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Lol! what on earth are yall talking about? nandroid only works with the same type of rom you used previously. for example, using rooted stock rom then backup via nandroid then switch to CM and restoring doesnt work. you would have to flash back to rooted stock and then restore. you can obviously make multiple backups... one for each rom. but again... you have to be on the same rom... otherwise, the restore will seriously corupt your current rom.
I'm beginning to wonder if some even know what dual boot actually means, lol!
Thats why you do a wipe befor you restore from a nandroid backup
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Thats why you do a wipe befor you restore from a nandroid backup
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That doesnt really matter if you are using a different rom this time around especially a themed one. Sometimes it can help.... but if the rom is completely different like sense then to stock or CM, you gonna have issues no matter if you wipe or not. Are folks crazy? the system folder varies HEAVILY between different roms. sure you can TRY restoring just the data/cache/ext but that doesn't always work out right. Stick around, kid. You might learn something if you quit running you mouth
Calm down guys. . . . Nandroid works just fine. .
I have used it on an array of ROMs, Stock, Sense, CM . .It works. You just need to backup, then wipe and flash the ROM you want. If you want to go back to the other ROM, back up, then restore the one you backed up previously. You can even name them, you just have to change the folder name in the clockwork mod folder on your SD and look for backups.
Seems like there's a little confusion on how Nandroid works...I didn't understand it myself until recently. I'll attempt to explain how it works, if any experts think I got it wrong, please let me know.
Basically, Nandroid lets you backup your current phone's state (ROM, apps, settings and all) into a single save file that you can restore whenever you want. So as an example, let's say you install ROM X, but you want to try ROM Y. You would first make a Nandroid backup of your phone, then flash ROM Y. Then let's say after a day of playing around with ROM Y, you want to go back to ROM X, you would then make a Nandroid backup of ROM Y, and restore the Nandroid of ROM X. Your phone will then be exactly the way it was when you created the backup of ROM X, and at any time you want you can restore your ROM Y. In this way, you can bootup any ROM you've saved in the past, anytime you want. This makes Nandroid a fairly effective "multi-boot".
You might notice one slight pain in this whole process, the first time you use any particular ROM, you'll have to setup your phone all over again. This can be made easier if you use Titanium Backup, which is an app that backs up your apps and settings to your SD card. Then when you try out a new ROM, install Titanium Backup from the Market and use it to restore your apps and settings. If you're using the free version, this means tapping the screen twice for each app on your phone ("Install", "Done", repeat), but I noticed the paid version claims to have a "0-click restore" feature.
I hope this helps clarify some things.
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Calm down guys. . . . Nandroid works just fine. .
I have used it on an array of ROMs, Stock, Sense, CM . .It works. You just need to backup, then wipe and flash the ROM you want. If you want to go back to the other ROM, back up, then restore the one you backed up previously. You can even name them, you just have to change the folder name in the clockwork mod folder on your SD and look for backups.
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Lol! Thats what I've been trying to explain to them but they just want to argue with me for some reason. hahaha! They'll figure out on their own any way if they want to be stubborn about it. Heck, I was just trying to save them some frustration. oh well...
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Seems like there's a little confusion on how Nandroid works...I didn't understand it myself until recently. I'll attempt to explain how it works, if any experts think I got it wrong, please let me know.
Basically, Nandroid lets you backup your current phone's state (ROM, apps, settings and all) into a single save file that you can restore whenever you want. So as an example, let's say you install ROM X, but you want to try ROM Y. You would first make a Nandroid backup of your phone, then flash ROM Y. Then let's say after a day of playing around with ROM Y, you want to go back to ROM X, you would then make a Nandroid backup of ROM Y, and restore the Nandroid of ROM X. Your phone will then be exactly the way it was when you created the backup of ROM X, and at any time you want you can restore your ROM Y. In this way, you can bootup any ROM you've saved in the past, anytime you want. This makes Nandroid a fairly effective "multi-boot".
You might notice one slight pain in this whole process, the first time you use any particular ROM, you'll have to setup your phone all over again. This can be made easier if you use Titanium Backup, which is an app that backs up your apps and settings to your SD card. Then when you try out a new ROM, install Titanium Backup from the Market and use it to restore your apps and settings. If you're using the free version, this means tapping the screen twice for each app on your phone ("Install", "Done", repeat), but I noticed the paid version claims to have a "0-click restore" feature.
I hope this helps clarify some things.
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That was a perfect explaination! I hope that sheds some light for folks who didnt understand what I meant and I apologize for being annoyed. originally, I had thought the OP was talking about dualbooting with android/windows mobile or something... I didnt think about the possiblity of running two android roms. I see how nandroid was brought up now... yeah, thats kind of silly to dualboot with two android roms. but to each his own...
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im just saying it would be cool to have cuz its call dual boot n something new to try.......u guys dont? thats fine.......i wish someone would tho
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i cant believe nobody agrees, i would love to have dual boot just like my my laptop with win7\ubuntu netbook remix. the iphone people are dual booting into android or Ios and thats kinda cool even if its not completly functional. Id rather dual than trying to restore back and forth. Good Call
I used the Nandroid method on the G2 to switch between SuperD's ROM and KingKlick's Eclair builds. It works and really does make a good "multi-boot." Also, I use MyBackup Pro to back everything up, and all the settings for the apps and the phone are saved.
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i cant believe nobody agrees, i would love to have dual boot just like my my laptop with win7\ubuntu netbook remix. the iphone people are dual booting into android or Ios and thats kinda cool even if its not completly functional. Id rather dual than trying to restore back and forth. Good Call
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Of course, I have to agree with you... There are several things that bother me about nandroid, which I say, is not a good replacement for dual-booting. With dual boot you can shut down your phone/computer and be able to switch between operating systems. I can use Windows 7 to play games, Ubuntu to code, and Mac OS X 10.5 for multimedia. I'm pretty sure that people don't backup Windows 7, wait for that to finish, then install Ubuntu on their computer, wait 20-30 minutes for it to boot up, then get to work(and I'm sure computers would be horrible if you needed to do that). But I'm just saying this so I can get into the conversation and actually get somebodies recognition so they can actually start working on a script for the G2 so you can dual-boot. I'm pretty sure that it's possible... but I'm not sure if there's anybody willing to do it.
Well that's accomplished by partitioning, on a pc.
whichever rom u install completely takes over the previous one, thus eliminating that previous rom. There would need to be some sort of partitioning mechanism,involved. to achieve the dualboot, wouldnt there?
correct me if i am wrong, but the hboot controls the partitions of the phones, and when the G1 needed a new hboot to be re-partitioned to allow for better bigger ROMs there were a LOT of bricks that took months to figure out how to fix, so if someone wants to try to flash the hboot from another phone(and risk losing their phone forever) then by all means have at it, but for the time being nandroid will have to do.
Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..
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Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..
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1. You will restore all your apps with TB
2. If you restore a backup you will have everything back to before you flashed a new rom.
3. I like using Fresh but its a sense rom but very great , but yea just look around and pick a rom. Experiment and good luck
thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?
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thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?
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I'm not sure but I think you can download SWYPE from market.
EDIT : I have tried a lot of ROM here, I'll recommend you MIUI... Good luck and welcome to the DARK-Side... =]
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thanks man, I was already lookin at Fresh so I may give it a try tomorrow...
One more thing, I love the Swype keyboard and dont wanna lose it... so is that like an app that I just backup in TB and restore with whatever ROM I flash or a I stuck with the ROM's keyboard..?
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Its an apk file, so yes just back it up and your good , also fresh already has swype installed so your good to go.
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I'm not sure but I think you can download SWYPE from market.
EDIT : I have tried a lot of ROM here, I'll recommend you MIUI... Good luck and welcome to the DARK-Side... =]
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No swype is not on the market, nor can we post the apk on XDA
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Ok, first of all, I've done a lot of reading so I'm not just postin w/o lookin but, with all the posts out there I may have missed something... so if there's a thread(s) that answers this that you know of a link would be awesome.....
So I've been rooted for a while and want to try out a new ROM... had a few questions
1) Before I flash a new ROM I do a Nandroid and wipe so... when I flash the new ROM are all my apps still there or do I have to go into Titanium Backup and restore each one from the SD? .. Basically, once I flash, how do I get all my apps that I use on a daily basis back up and runnin?
2) I know making a Nandroid backsup the whole system so, if I flash a new ROM, kernel and all and then restore to pre-flash then I will have the original radios, kernel and everything?...
3) Is there a ROM that is really stable, fairly fast (would rather speed over battery life) and has a lot of pre-built themes built?... I've made a couple of my own "partial" themes with custom icons and such but would like some pre-made stuff to play around with...
4) I've learned a whole sh!t-ton of stuff from you guys on here so thanks, us average folks (non-programmer) appreciate it..
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1) Yes use TB to restore your apps. I recommend the paid version because it restores fast and automatically. I don't have to manually confirm each one like my cheap ass girlfriend...but she doesn't flash much. The poor Epic devs don't have froyo source.
2) Yes except for the radios. I nandroid just in case but I prefer reflashing what ever rom I'm going back to because nandroid restores just didn't run as well. But I have a new phone now so maybe that is changed.
3) Try MIUI its so fast that I underclock to 499 and it still feels like its full speed. It also has a built in theme manager. Also cyanogenmod has a lot of themes (turrrrible sentence structure). If you don't like aosp try myn's rom.
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No swype is not on the market, nor can we post the apk on XDA
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Oh ok, Thanks a lot for the info.
i think most of your questions are answered. i'll just give you the usual must try rom list:
myn's warm twopointtwo: this is the complete theme rom. it is simply fantastic. really, it looks like a new phone. performance is great, added apps are good, tweaks are good, everything is good really. it is definetally a must try. do not miss this.
caulkin's evio 2: another absolute must try. the tweaks are what make this rom special. caulkin knows his code. this is the fastest sense rom i have ever tried. simply speedy, fantastic battery, great tweaks by caulkin (almost all other devs use his tweaks) and a slick, silvery theme that makes sense look not ugly. in my opinion, this is myns only rival rom. crazy good.
ava-froyo z series: very good rom. ava knows his code. he has really dived deep into the evo's system, and made tweaks to just about everything, even how the radios interact. this is the rom if you want pure tweakage. works for some, for others it does not work. i'd reccomend trying it for 2 or 3 days to see if it is fantastic, or really slow and bad battery.
mikfroyo: i personally dont like this but many do. very small, fast rom.
then you have the aosp roms. these are not based off evo code. built from the ground up, using only google's base code for android.
cyanogenmod: humungous project. works on many different phones. vanilla style (google) android. many tweaks that should have been in android in the first place. this is the ultimate pure android. it should be what google uses for their stock. the things these people think up, makes iphones jealous. too much to name.
miui: many people like this. i dont, but its all preferance. iphone-like rom without all the, um, iphone. looks and feels as slick, fast, and battery efficiant as the iphone 4 itself, but its android! i have no idea who these dudes are, but they must be programmers because they baisically rewrote android to look, feel, and act like a crossover, with many tweaks in between. fully customizabe, not at all vanilla android. a must try. you may not like it but then again you may love it.
again, try caulkins, myns, miui, and any more that you may want.
any more reccomendations to add to this list?
Thanks for the info guys, really helped me out...
I know to do a nandroid backup but I've read all kinds of different stuff about what to backup and what app to use to back it up... apps? texts/calls? data? ... I just dont want to miss anything...
So far I've backed up all my apps in Titanium, my texts and calls with two apps for that, my contacts to google and just in case I backed up my whole SD card to my desktop... Anything that y'all can think of that I may have missed?.. Again, thanks
Yea thanks for the list.
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I was expecting that.
Either way, you really went above and beyond on backing up. I wouldn't worry about much more. To do a nandroid backup, boot into recovery. Scroll to backup/restore. Choose NAND backup. Make sure system, data, boot, cache, radio, and wimax are all checked. Then hit backup. Wait 5 minutes. Done. This is all assuming you have the newest Amon-ra recovery. If not, go to rom manager and choose flash alternate recovery at the bottom. Amon recovery is highly recommended over clockwormod. Sadly clockwork mod is the default for unrevoked.
So after you backup, make sure you wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache twice each before flashing a rom. Good luck
'Preciate all the help.. I now have Myn's Warm2.2 runnin and everything works great..
Also, just to note, if you like me FORGOT to back up all apps before flashing for the first time (ouch), you can get swype back very easily! They opened up the beta again, so you can just download from their website from your phone.
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Also, just to note, if you like me FORGOT to back up all apps before flashing for the first time (ouch), you can get swype back very easily! They opened up the beta again, so you can just download from their website from your phone.
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Isn't swype in the newest ota now? Well, the beta is better. If you want the beta instead of the ota version, use root explorer or adb commands to delete swype.apk from /system/app/ and libswypecore.so from /system/lib/. Then just install the beta like normal, and accept the do not update to newest ota warning it gives you.
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Isn't swype in the newest ota now? Well, the beta is better. If you want the beta instead of the ota version, use root explorer or adb commands to delete swype.apk from /system/app/ and libswypecore.so from /system/lib/. Then just install the beta like normal, and accept the do not update to newest ota warning it gives you.
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How's the beta version better, what's it got that the version that's included in Warm2.2 doesnt have?
By the way, just my opinion but I tried MIUI and really didnt care for it.. too... iPhoneISH I guess, didnt feel as intuitive as Sense to me... but then again I've never had an iPhone.. anyway, just my 0.2cents
the beta version is better bcuz it is newer. newest is best, as they say. the ota is 2.7.something and the beta is on 2.17 already. the ota one is included in myns, and all sense roms. i'm not into miui either, but many people are. hey, its worth the flash to try it.
Oh ok, well I'll just stick with the OTA version for now I guess if there arent any glaring differences... and yeah, it was worth a try.. I can see how that would be someone's cup of tea.. just not mine.
Yes I would do the same if I had backed it up despite it being a stock version it never let me down. Regardless, you have a choice, for the time being
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I've been rooted with unrevoked3 (and I have verified that I have S-Off) for a few months now and I've gotten at least a decent feel for what you can do with a rooted evo. I've gotten used to a few adb terminal commands also. The next big thing that I'm trying to do is install a cyanogenmod 6 rom on it (and eventually update it to 7 after it's no longer a nightly). I've already done a nandroid backup, titanium backup, and I have a copy of my RSA keys. I've read through the installation instructions for cyanogenmod 6 (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_4G:_Full_Update_Guide) and it mentioned flashing the radio. I'm not worried about doing that part, but I want to know if the changes that I make to it will be reversible or not if I decide that I don't like cyanogenmod. Finally, if there's anything that I'm missing, or if there's an easier way to do this other than the link I posted, any advice/tips would be great.
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I've been rooted with unrevoked3 (and I have verified that I have S-Off) for a few months now and I've gotten at least a decent feel for what you can do with a rooted evo. I've gotten used to a few adb terminal commands also. The next big thing that I'm trying to do is install a cyanogenmod 6 rom on it (and eventually update it to 7 after it's no longer a nightly). I've already done a nandroid backup, titanium backup, and I have a copy of my RSA keys. I've read through the installation instructions for cyanogenmod 6 (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_4G:_Full_Update_Guide) and it mentioned flashing the radio. I'm not worried about doing that part, but I want to know if the changes that I make to it will be reversible or not if I decide that I don't like cyanogenmod. Finally, if there's anything that I'm missing, or if there's an easier way to do this other than the link I posted, any advice/tips would be great.
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Undoing it would be as simple as restoring that nandroud backup you made. It sounds like you're ready. Have fun!
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+1 sounds like you've done your homework.....you can go right back to your nandroid in the very small chance you don't like CM.... and when you restore your nandroid it will be as if you never changed anything in the first place...
The radio is a two step process. It will flash in recovery and then reboot and finish writing the radio. You have to let the second part complete or you will brick your phone.
Quick question based on the OP's question: Do we have to update radios when we flash a new rom? I was also looking to install CM7 as my first flashed rom today. I already have the most current radios, as my phone is only a couple weeks old, and has all the sprint updates. I am rooted just running the stock rom for right now, so do I have to flash radios even though they are the same version that I have now?
You don't HAVE to update the radios to the latest. I haven't updated either since I received my new Evo. "If it ain't broke ...." Could just give the ROM a go and see what happens. If you feel like it's necessary you can give it a shot. You can always go back if a new one doesn't appear to be working as well. It's not required, and it's not "un doable."
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Yea if you get slow internet or bad service a fresh radio flash can't hurt. But as it was said earlier, let the radios flash! I screwed up and pulled my battery because I thought it wasn't working but all I did was end up breaking my rsa keys.
Swyped from my Evo on steroids.
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Yea if you get slow internet or bad service a fresh radio flash can't hurt. But as it was said earlier, let the radios flash! I screwed up and pulled my battery because I thought it wasn't working but all I did was end up breaking my rsa keys.
Swyped from my Evo on steroids.
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Yea I believe only 3.70 requires you to have the new radios other than that just enjoy life nandroid and flash away. Like said earlier "if it aint broke" and since mine are working fine I have not updated my radios and the fact that I run Gingerbread and not one of these new 3.70 roms makes my decision easy.
Okay, I've got cyanogenmod installed, I'm doing a nandroid backup right now, and my big questions now, if I want to switch between cyanogen and what I had before installing it, can I just nandroid between the two? and can I use Titatium to reinstall all of the apps I had before installing cyanogen without problem?
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Okay, I've got cyanogenmod installed, I'm doing a nandroid backup right now, and my big questions now, if I want to switch between cyanogen and what I had before installing it, can I just nandroid between the two? and can I use Titatium to reinstall all of the apps I had before installing cyanogen without problem?
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If you made a nandroid before switching, the nandroid will save EVERYTHING, including your apps. So if you want to switch back and forth, make a new Nandroid for CM (make sure you know which one is which), then you can boot into recovery and restore the old one, and restore the CM one whenever you want. No need to use titanium once you have made a nandroid.
Awesome. I said what the heck and experimented and found out I could do that yesterday. The one last thing that I'm trying to do now is to backup all of my sms to the sd card so I can restore them in cm. I'm gonna search around for an app for now until someone points me in the right direction.
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Awesome. I said what the heck and experimented and found out I could do that yesterday. The one last thing that I'm trying to do now is to backup all of my sms to the sd card so I can restore them in cm. I'm gonna search around for an app for now until someone points me in the right direction.
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You can use mybackup pro or titanium backup
Sorry, wrong thread.
hey xda fans....ok so i have a severe issue here:
i have the evo 4g...rooted... and am on sense with 2.2 and 3.70 (i think you guys know what that is) so anyway i want to get the new update and start really having fun with my phone. I have not been able to fully understand all this rooting and flashing etc...O_O so i installed ROM manager, which now some peeps are sayin dont use if you dont know what you are doing WELL HI, THAT WOULD BE ME so for all the experts, gods and godesses of rooting (EVO) flashing, please please please help me from start to absoulute finish...i need to know what am i downloading, running, saving and to where- that was a huge issue too i couldnt find the files after i downloaded them LOL if i am successful...I will post the greatest YOUTUBE, forum, blog about this..i am so lost right now
b4 i forget a couple updates of info everytime i tried to flash or do any type of recent updates i get the usb connection 170 error or maybe 171 cant remember now....ummm...i rooted originally with unrevoked so unrooting i wouldnt have a clue...and yes i have searched allll possible threads for help but i only get 50/50 and then still get messed up..thanks
thanks again and happy rooting
While I am not going to hold your hand as there is plenty of information on these forums and the internet, I will steer you in the right direction. Since you are rooted, all you really need to do is download the rooted version of the latest stock rom. There are a few in the development section. The version is 4.22. After downloading you will flash this rom in recovery. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before flashing the update.
DO NOT unroot just to install the update. You will lose the ability to root hour phone for the foreseeable future.
Good luck
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ok thanks i will try it now...stay tuned
Ur not going to see much difference. The update dissapointed lots of people expecting a new look. Install a couple of custom roms if u want to have some fun. I am using the MikG v1.03 Rom with new sense incorperated and its waaaay better than the stock update we just got.
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Pleat try to see this as advice and not being an ass.
Rooting your phone is really for being able to dig in to your phone and get all you want out of it and be able to customize more than the average evo.
What were your initial intentions for rooting? I get the draw to have free wifi tether but, that just happens to be one perk of it. Of course, there are the options of kernels and cpu clocking.
But, really the developers are attempting to bring the newest and most useful and functional features to the roms opening the full potential of your phone.
Aside from that, if you are unclear and confused about the process of flashing, you should really hold off and do some more research.
Go to the wiki page and read up! i spent about a month reading everything I could find on rooting, flashing, kernels, radios, prls, threads on roms and their issues and up sides. I knew what I was doing and what rom and features I was going to use.
Honestly, youtube will also be your friend. A few devs also post videos people have made about their roms including how to flash them. You should also read up on the results of mistakes made during flashing and how to fix them.
Get to know your phone and submit it to do your will!
Good luck!
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thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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Your apps were gone because you wiped data. Try Titanium Backup - there's a free version in the market that allows you to backup and restore, get the Pro key to avoid agreeing to the permissions/install of each individual app. The Pro version also allows for a larger number of backups per app, where the free version limits to one and when you make another backup it overwrites the first one. You can also freeze apps with the full version, but if you enable "Chuck Norris Mode" in settings the free version will allow you to uninstall system apps. There are other perks to the Pro Key, but I digress...
If you backup your apps & data, you can restore them on the new one. Whenever you flash a new rom, always wipe data, cache and dalvik (dalvik cache is under advanced in Clockwork). If you're simply updating the rom (ie to a newer version by the same dev, like Cyanogenmod nightlies) you can just wipe cache and dalvik unless otherwise stated in the rom. Whenever you flash anything other than a rom - kernels, themes, mods, radios, etc - do not wipe data.
If you don't know which rom to use, as long as you have a nandroid backup you can always go back to your setup that you like... so flash away. If you want to stick with something closer to what you're used to, try Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo... it's still FroYo. If you want Gingerbread/Sense, I've heard great things about MikG. I would avoid any rom that needs you to partition your SD card until you get your feet wet & know what you're doing.
Oh, and if you decide to flash the new radio update, don't pull the battery when you see the screen you've never seen before - you'll brick your phone. Just wait it out, and it'll take you back to recovery where you can then reboot normally.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
Definitely look at Mik, and learn all you can about partitioning your card for APS2SD, you'll want that for the bigger ROMS, about flashing radios, very important to do that correctly, about theming, and so many other things that being rooted opens up for you.
Mik is great for sure, also kings roms. If you want something that is still htc sense there are many great developers and right now is the time because they are able to merge ports with the ota for the max performance for our phone while running gingerbread and having nifty new 3.0 sense features.
And maybe someday you will venture to the aosp world some day...
Sent by Supersonic!
I'm currently running GB El29 and am looking to update. I've done a lot of reading around the forum, the wiki, and a few other websites, and I'd just like a little bit of clarification. I figure I'd ask now, before doing anything, as opposed to asking later, after something's gone wrong.
Looking at the Wiki, I was considering updating to Calkulin's E4GT 2 v1.6, or unrooting and then waiting for the Official ICS update (it was rerolled today, apparently.) Or, to Blazer, but I'm not sure if going to the ICS version or GB version is best.
My question - The process to update - Nandroid, Flash Format All, Flash Rom, Success? I've noticed a lot of installs say to "Wipe All", and I assume that's what Flashing Format All does, correct? I just don't want to mess up - I had no problems rooting, following that guide I mentioned, and I've done a lot of reading...I just want to confirm before doing anything. I mean, I know, wipe delvic and clear cache, but Format All does that, correct?
I rooted my phone using "How to Root Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch! [NEW][SPH-D710]" rom Epic4gtouchroot.com. I'd post a link, but I've fewer than 10 posts. All I've done, outside of root, is install the Beats sound files. That's really it.
Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
Read this 10 times over then you should be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
If you are interested in certin roms read threw the rom post to see if people have already answerd the questions you seek. Some devs request you flash different ways so read the OP in the post of the roms you are considering
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Read this once, stay with gingerbread, try Calks E4GT V. 3.0 YOU won't regret it.
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Read this once, stay with gingerbread, try Calks E4GT V. 3.0 YOU won't regret it.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking of going with. I've read over his topic several times, and even though I'm really not a fan of the transparent notification tray, most of the included mods sound really, really useful. Thanks for the heads up.
And thank you too, jugaloo. I actually have that page bookmarked on my phone lol. I've already made several nandroid backups - I plan on making a titanium backup in a moment. My only concern now is th process from going from El29 GB to E4GT 3. Rereading that thread several times has me wondering - I download the ROM, place it on the SD, boot into recovery, clear delvic and cache, run Format all, then install the ROM, correct? I already have a nandroid backup, so in case anything here goes wrong, I can just flash the backup back on, correct?
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking of going with. I've read over his topic several times, and even though I'm really not a fan of the transparent notification tray, most of the included mods sound really, really useful. Thanks for the heads up.
And thank you too, jugaloo. I actually have that page bookmarked on my phone lol. I've already made several nandroid backups - I plan on making a titanium backup in a moment. My only concern now is th process from going from El29 GB to E4GT 3. Rereading that thread several times has me wondering - I download the ROM, place it on the SD, boot into recovery, clear delvic and cache, run Format all, then install the ROM, correct? I already have a nandroid backup, so in case anything here goes wrong, I can just flash the backup back on, correct?
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I just run the format x2 script made by ruj in the blu kuban thread. Then i follow the devs op to install. From what i see you have your feet planted and ur about to make that plunge. Id take the next step and try the flash. Id go with a different rom the the fe22 is out of date and calk has moved on. Try blu kubans rom its super stable and ita built from source. I myself like gb better.
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I just run the format x2 script made by ruj in the blu kuban thread. Then i follow the devs op to install. From what i see you have your feet planted and ur about to make that plunge. Id take the next step and try the flash. Id go with a different rom the the fe22 is out of date and calk has moved on. Try blu kubans rom its super stable and ita built from source. I myself like gb better.
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I was thinking that - Calk's topic was updated in May, while blukuban was updated in February. I mean, I can always try both, right? I'd like to go with Calk's first, then try blukuban, only because BK is heavily themed. But either way, thanks!
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I didn't realize the blukuban thread had updates outside of the OP. It was very recently updated. I might check that one out first.
Yes the blu kuban ics is always up todate and he is there for the people. If you want ics builds that are more stockish id aokp they have theming going on but is nice and stable. Read all of the op and there sites for correct install. Cm9 alpha 6 is also really good. Blazers rom is also really good. Those are all stockish built from source. For gb roms id go with either calks 3.0 or UnOfifcials ics gb rom. For me gb gives me most bang for battery and bandwith. Those last two roms are highly recomended. Calks is super fast stock with options for themes. Unofficial gb ics is themed lightly and is very good for battery and the animations are nice
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Alright, awesome. Waiting for my battery to finish charging (my phone reset while performing a titanium backup, and the battery life dropped from 44 to 9, so I'm getting it back up to at least 50.)
So just to recap
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To Install
Boot to recovery
Make a NAND Backup
Wipe Phone (Format All/wipe delvic/wipe cache)
Install ROM
Right? That's what Blukuban's install requires, and Calk's doesn't have any special instructions, outside of " a wipe is recommended BEFORE flashing if coming from another ROM", which is what the Format All is for, correct?
You've been insanely helpful. Thank you so much! I'm also looking into UnOfficial (it's not on the Wiki, so I didn't really know about it until you mentioned it.
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Alright, awesome. Waiting for my battery to finish charging (my phone reset while performing a titanium backup, and the battery life dropped from 44 to 9, so I'm getting it back up to at least 50.)
So just to recap
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To Install
Boot to recovery
Make a NAND Backup
Wipe Phone (Format All/wipe delvic/wipe cache)
Install ROM
Right? That's what Blukuban's install requires, and Calk's doesn't have any special instructions, outside of " a wipe is recommended BEFORE flashing if coming from another ROM", which is what the Format All is for, correct?
You've been insanely helpful. Thank you so much! I'm also looking into UnOfficial (it's not on the Wiki, so I didn't really know about it until you mentioned it.)
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Charge the bartery more. Use a wipe script dont touch the fomat that is built into the cwm while flashing a ics rom. If you use the wipe x2 script found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25448865
U should be good. It wipes everythings even both of the caches twice. If you already have a newer nandroid id just go with that instead of making a new one everytime you flash. If possible download the roms to pc check the md5 check sums make sure they match. If they match transfer to the phone. When downloading to the phone it has a higher chance of a bad download. I try and flash at 75% battery incase of error and you have to restore a previous nandroid. If you want read this post about the eMMc bug. Most roms are safe now but some are not current.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
Not trying to scare you with that last link you should know about it before hand so you know the dangers of flashing a non safe ics roms. If you have any more queations shoot. But i think your good to go
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One more thing. Qbking27 has install video guides for 90% of the roms in the threads of the rom. Id watch those before installing that rom you want. Some times they are buried in the op. You can use them as a step by step as you install. Best if luck to you and i want a report once you get your new custom rom on your phone.
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You got it!
I'm doing a GB build - from what I've come across, GB just gets better battery life, and I just feel more comfortable using it. At least, until the official ICS rolls out from Samsung. If that one is well received, and it's worth it, I'll unroot/wipe fresh and try it out.
That being said though, I'll use x2 then. Will it matter if I do both, just for good, measure? (Both x2 and FormatAll)
And yes, I'll be downloading to PC first, then transferring. I feel more comfortable doing it that way. I'll be doing Calk's 3.0 first, and if I don't like it, I'll try either Unofficial or BluKuban.
And once it's done charging more, and I perform the install, I'll report back, with a screenshot or two as well.
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You got it!
I'm doing a GB build - from what I've come across, GB just gets better battery life, and I just feel more comfortable using it. At least, until the official ICS rolls out from Samsung. If that one is well received, and it's worth it, I'll unroot/wipe fresh and try it out.
That being said though, I'll use x2 then. Will it matter if I do both, just for good, measure? (Both x2 and FormatAll)
And yes, I'll be downloading to PC first, then transferring. I feel more comfortable doing it that way. I'll be doing Calk's 3.0 first, and if I don't like it, I'll try either Unofficial or BluKuban.
And once it's done charging more, and I perform the install, I'll report back, with a screenshot or two as well.
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Just use the wipe x2 that does everything you need. Blu kubans gb rom is good but wifi is whacky. Id go with his ics build. Well your set good luck!
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Alright so, I installed it, and all is working well. It's actually a bit...erm, slow? Whenever I swipe from screen to screen on the homepage it's a bit laggish. But it works! I'll run around with it for a little while and see how it works. I'm in the process of reinstalling my older apps, updating my contacts and such.
Thanks for all of your help!
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A little worried, to be honest. Some of the apps I'm trying to install is giving me the "Package file is invalid" error off of the Google Market. Dropbox, Amazon, etc. Not sure what to make of it, to be honest.
Try and clear the cache for the market. If your using tb try to unmount the sd card if that dont work do fresh installs off the market place . Also go into recovery and clear the cache and dalvik.
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Try and clear the cache for the market. If your using tb try to unmount the sd card if that dont work do fresh installs off the market place . Also go into recovery and clear the cache and dalvik.
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Done. I cleared both caches, and so far, all of the problems I've had with the market is gone. (Dropbox didn't install on the first try, but it did after the second.)
I've replaced the default touchwiz interface with Launcher Pro (TW was running wicked slow - loads of lag with just basic scrolling) and it seems to be running well. And it's definitely saving on battery life.)
That being said, it's not really my cup of tea. I restored my contacts and such, but eh. I think I'll try UnOfficial, and if it's not better, either go back to el29 or update to official ics.
I'll likely keep this one until tomorrow. You've been such a huge help. Thank you so much.
Actually, with launcher pro replacing it, this is pretty good. I want to mess with it more. I'll run it for a few days and see how it fairs.
Ok wait before everyone leaves, Ive got some questions too!
I just got my replacement(after a hard brick trying JB) and figure Id ask my questions in this thread rather than starting a new one..
1. Ive decided to odin EL29 EVERY TIME I want to flash a new rom, just to be safe. If I use CMW with EL29 and decide to try out CM9, Do I always need to flash a aokp kernel? Or is that built into the CM9 install?
2. If I like CM9, and want to make a nandroid backup of it, do I need to Odin back to EL29 first to back it up? Or is it safe to do it with the recovery that comes with CM9?
3. If the answer to #2 is yes, meaning I do have to odin back to EL29, how do I restore my backup? Let me explain:
Lets say I flash CM9, make a nandroid of CM9, then decide to try out say a different rom, like a TW rom. Then I hate the TW rom and wanna restore my backup of CM9. Do I need to ODIN back to EL29 to restore the nandroid? I read in the "how not to brick my..." thread its bad to restore a ICS rom from a GB Kernel. Can someone please explain?
Ive really, really tried to search and read as much as possible before asking, but a lot of the threads are old and have contradicting information. Sorry for being so noobish, but I dont wanna brick my new phone. I come from Evo, Evo3d, Hp Touchpad, etc, where there arent as many issues to flash customs roms. Ive rooted and flashed custom roms ever since the PPC6600, 100's of times and NEVER had a problem. Sorry, this just really confuses me for some reason!!!
Can't help you with CM9 or AOKP because I've never tried either one. The OP was talking about launcher pro. I highly recommend Nova launcher or Apex. They are both specifically built for ICS and look and act like stock android with great customization features.
Was going to make another topic, but I thought I'd ask here first
- The notification tray in this rom (Calk 3.0) is transparent, and I'm not fond of the icons in the Notification Tray. I tried using Rom Tool Box lite to change it, but the tray won't change, no matter what I do. Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried before - it just won't change.
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Was going to make another topic, but I thought I'd ask here first
- The notification tray in this rom (Calk 3.0) is transparent, and I'm not fond of the icons in the Notification Tray. I tried using Rom Tool Box lite to change it, but the tray won't change, no matter what I do. Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried before - it just won't change.
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I don't mess with rom tool box. I hear good and bad things about it. If you start at page 1080 and read to the end people post new system ui's but it may theme it a little bit. They have blazers UI in there and one other one I think. I'm not sure it is transparent or not. Or even make a post in the thread about it. I know its still active and you may find your answer. Sorry I can't really help you on this.
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Alright, cool. Thanks a lot. You wouldn't happen to have the link to that thread, would you? I've searched, and I'm a bit lost. Sorry for the trouble.