which one the is the best rom????
virtous or cyanogen????!?!?!?!?!
Do you want sense? If so get virtuous.
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I use the recovery to dual-ROM between both. I like CyanogenMod's stability and the ability to overclock to 1.8Ghz on Virtuous.
I've been bouncing back and forth from the two since the g2 has been rooted and i respect both... virtuous is good only if u like sense ui. cm6 is faster and gives me fewer errors and runs more smoothly... i got launcher pro with the sense dock and it works just PERFECTLY
Its a matter of sense vs vanilla on 'roids lol. I have been using CyanogenMod since my G1. It's updated regularly and there is a huge community of people for any kind of issues you might have.
goo with cynogen it has a sexy boot up and its fast asssssss hell!!!!! theres less errors at i think you can get a Sense Theme with launcher pro i think
thank you guys for all your help..
You can also get a sense theme with ADW I switch back and forth between LPP and ADW, both are equally good. Now the matter of Sense if you like big HUGE aesthetic visuals then go with Sense if you want more functionality go with CM.
I always used to like Sense back in the G1 days now I can't stand it. But I run Virtuous on one of my G2s and CM and my other one. I recommend you get lcddensity from the market and put CM on about anywhere from 170 -190 see how you like it, then try Sense on about 190 - 200 and see the difference. I will never go back to DPI at 240
but it's up to you...
also Sense has hibernate which is cool.
Go with Virtuous.
It's just so sexy, and Virtuous actually detects my contacts on my SIM, while CM does not.
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You can also get a sense theme with ADW I switch back and forth between LPP and ADW, both are equally good. Now the matter of Sense if you like big HUGE aesthetic visuals then go with Sense if you want more functionality go with CM.
I always used to like Sense back in the G1 days now I can't stand it. But I run Virtuous on one of my G2s and CM and my other one. I recommend you get lcddensity from the market and put CM on about anywhere from 170 -190 see how you like it, then try Sense on about 190 - 200 and see the difference. I will never go back to DPI at 240
but it's up to you...
also Sense has hibernate which is cool.
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Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about this.
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Sense has quick bootup
2.5 seconds from power off state to on state.
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You can also get a sense theme with ADW I switch back and forth between LPP and ADW, both are equally good. Now the matter of Sense if you like big HUGE aesthetic visuals then go with Sense if you want more functionality go with CM.
I always used to like Sense back in the G1 days now I can't stand it. But I run Virtuous on one of my G2s and CM and my other one. I recommend you get lcddensity from the market and put CM on about anywhere from 170 -190 see how you like it, then try Sense on about 190 - 200 and see the difference. I will never go back to DPI at 240
but it's up to you...
also Sense has hibernate which is cool.
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alright ! thanks for the help! your the BEAST!
how do you get such a fast boot time?
Mine takes nearly a minute to turn on!
it depends wether or not you want Sense or not. Cyanogen is still vanilla android with extra features. Virtuous is a port of Sense for the G2 from the DZ
also if i just found out that Cyan 6.1 hasa feature that changes the notification bar to black if thats one of you main likes of sense.
I am running Cyanogen 6.1 RC3 mainly because i love Vanilla Android and sense looks pleasant but feels more bloated.
just my 0$.02
i like sense ui but i prefer cm
if u like sense, go for virtuous
I just got my G2 today and have tried both CM6 and Virtuous. I think CM6 is a better daily driver. While Virtuous appeals to my go out on the weekend eyecandy phone. I like both.
Well i have been running virtuous for 2 weeks now and i havent even thought about trying cyanogen yet since sense is so sexy and fast for me even though i havent overclocked it....no lag at all and just love the features they added for the desire z .... cyanogen is faster obviously but try virtuous....im sure u will love it
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Which one to go for? Do you think sense is a bit of a bloatware and slows the system down?
Thoughts and opinions appreciated?
Ford or Honda?
what do you do with your phone? Do you want/need social networking that is always there? ......could go on and on.
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Hi dhiral.v
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Which one to go for? Do you think sense is a bit of a bloatware and slows the system down?
Thoughts and opinions appreciated?
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It does seem to have a lot of bloat, but I could not say it slow the system down.
But the Sense Rom approx 240MB, where as CM7 Nightly is approx 80MB, IMO it a No Brainer.
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It isn’t a good question, because it is preference related. You should try both and decide by yourself.
Imo, sense has good things (like camera app, phone app, browser "windows", keyboad) but most part is pure bloatware. So i decided for cm and i'm not able to back sense again.
But of course, it's only my opinion. A LOT people would say i'm wrong...
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try it for your self mate
ive been a sense user and a cyanogen user
but now im sticking to cyanogen
it really depends on your taste mate
Like the guys above said you should give each one a try before coming to a opinion
.I for one like the social aspect of sense but then DSP in CM is to die for .
Sense roms have better intergration with Facebook and the like. Not a problem for my self as I don't use social networks, but was for my missus. While sense roms are nice they do feel bloated compared to cm and they lack the configurations options of cm too.
Depends on what you want really, try both and see how you go. Nandroid and titanium backup are your friends.
For what it's worth, I always end up going back to a SENSE rom...
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For what it's worth, I always end up going back to a SENSE rom...
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And i always end up back on no sense, CyanogenMod i like Mikes work, with his Revolution HD ROM/s, so check them out from time to time as well
Once you see how easy installing and backing up an installation is you will be a ROM addicts in no time
And then you can start playing with themes. there is some good work here done with that as well.
Used cm7 for a week or so. I kept going back to sense roms, bot for the social integration, but because to me, it simply looks much better, and the layout is nice, and the HTC apps are much better for me, than their aosp counterparts.
Gallery, camera, browser, keyboard, messaging, connected media, the themes themselves for me are better functioning, and better looking than the cm7 counterparts.
Sense widgets are nicely made also.
You should try them both and see which you like, it's all preference.
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You have to give them a try!
I like changing ROM often: up to now I like and use a lot the Spike_M ROM that is a lighter version of cynogenmod, fast and smooth. It needs a few to be totally gingerbread.
Otherwise I use Android Revolution 3.2 that is a stock ROM but incredibly fast, stable and long lastng battery (maybe is the best all over). I've to say I like many Sense widget and do not totally dislike the beautifull integration with socials and messaging. HTC is born with touchflo and now with sense. For sure the stock rom gives a sense to the phone itself.
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Try....
Ah a very nice question I wanted to ask myself... I started with the xperia x10 and am now with the HTC HD2 forum... there are so many roms available for my HD2
Okay comparing the two ... I would say the integration, look and overall feel of having a sense rom makes me actually like my phone...
Cons.... battery life could be better... I get about 9hrs daily with heavy usage on mornings and evenings before having to charge again
My experience with sense roms are good, but every now and again I get slowdowns. Does this happen with cyanogenMod?
CM is awesome and would be running it on my inspire if the stock htc music player worked on it lol. Sucks cause that's the only reason I just can't make the move lol I love the srs sound on my inspire . So like others have said it ends up coming down to what ya like.
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i vote for cyanogenmod
ull only like a few appls on sense like the camera app,social network site integration and the HTC KEYBOARD with arrows other then that its all crap.
that's what CM lacks atm. stock camera is not that good and keyboard aint that good.
Camera app of sense + keyboard of sense +FB htc sense+ CM = perfection
CoreDroid is also woth try...
if u wan froyo go for Android Revolution HD 3.3
n if u want gingerbread try CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V4.8
Having a lot of choice is a much better problem than having no choice
Anyways, I'm a big fan of SENSE. I love the way they have integrated all the social media. Especially for me, since I don't visit facebook often. So I love the fact that updates are pushed to me.
Anycase, if you are into a lot of social hubs, then Sense People app is worth its salt. I also like the level of polish Sense brings on top of android.
However, if you are a purist ( as many over here are ), go with cynogen.
However, I believe the Cynogen Mod's battery life is not as good as some of the "SENSE" based ROMS, like Leedroid or revo series (Correct me if I'm wrong!).
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However, I believe the Cynogen Mod's battery life is not as good as some of the "SENSE" based ROMS, like Leedroid or revo series (Correct me if I'm wrong!).
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yes found the sense roms are easier on the battery so far, but CyanMod have improved in this section a fair way in recent months
Hey guys, my old faithful rom was giving me problems last night so I decided to give cyanogen a try. Overall nice rom, very quick, I'm sure I'll like it, after I get some things figured out.
I never realized how much was sense on sense roms. Cyanogen is missing all those really handy widgets like email, people, and messaging. I'm slowly finding somewhat comparable widgets, but nothing solid yet.
What do you guys use for those basic widgets? Is there maybe a theme or something that has those, or should i keep looking on the market?
Thanks
I've been using GO Launcher EX and it's worked great in all the rom's I have tried.
I too gave CM7 a run but the biggest issue was that I could not get the auto backlight settings to duplicate the Sense rom's, and although minor to some people, this is a big deal with me.
LauncherPro Plus is personally my first choice. It's $3(?) and I have never found a launcher I like more. I actually think the "People" widget functions better than the sense one.
I don't use it but I hear launcherpro has some sense like widgets. And as far as the backlight settings, they are set lower than sense roms by default but you can just go into settings and bump the levels up a bit or search for settings other people have posted and use theirs as a starting point.
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Ok, well I just completed a nandroid backup of my cyanogen mod 7 rom. I'm gunna restore the incredibly re-engineered rom I had before cyanogen. I'm thinking I'll flash the incredibly re-engineered Z rom's /system and the incredibly re-engineered evo /data that is in my old backup.
I'll play with cyanogen a little more later, or hold out for the sense version. The widgets aren't the only thing bugging me, I can't seem to get the t9 phone keyboard for portrait mode, and to me, cyanogen is just not worth it at the moment.
Basically I'd like to be persuaded as to whether to use a sense rom (e.g ARHD) or a nosense rom (e.g CM7). And if I use CM7 can I install the HTC dialer and messaging app?
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Previously I was using ARHD (sense) and go launcher, and I've just updated to the new ARHD with sense 3. As much as I like it, it's not quite as minimalist as I liked with go launcher and my battery life is not as good (sense is a battery hod, no denying).
I'm tempted to go the other way; CM7 with no sense features. What are the advantages of this? Why do some people prefer no sense?
Can I install the sense APKs of the apps I like? The htc dialer is great, as is the messaging/
I can't answer all your questions however I recently went from RCMix3d 1.4 runny to CM7 and I'm loving the change. The battery life is excellent and it makes me wonder why I was using sense in the first place.
I don't even miss it that much, apart from the odd thing. I'll take longer battery life over flashy show off animations any day
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Basically I'd like to be persuaded as to whether to use a sense rom (e.g ARHD) or a nosense rom (e.g CM7). And if I use CM7 can I install the HTC dialer and messaging app?
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Can I install the sense APKs of the apps I like? The htc dialer is great, as is the messaging/
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No, the HTC apps won't run without the Sense framework.
Beyond that, I'm not going to persuade you with way; the only way to decide is to backup, flash cm7 and see which one you prefer.
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I suggest giving MIUI a try. It is basedd om CM7,has great features and is very easy to customise!
Definately take a look at MIUI as well Its an AOSP rom like CM7 but with some very nice additions. If you like to try out different themes and lots of personalization options MIUI is definately the way to go.
But in the end both ways (sense or no sense) have their advantages. What i dont like about sense is that its so bloated up with stuff you rarely ever use. You can cleane some of it with scripts like rom cleaner but still we're talking 350mb rom (sense) vs 80-90mb rom (CM7 or MIUI).
On the other hand with sense you get one good looking theme and good to very good apps for all the features of your phone. On CM7 you might need to find another app to play music via DLNA for example and another app for weather and so on.
sense and see how you feel if you dont like then go for no sense .....simple really
im with sense atm and feel that it is good
you could try the better of both worlds by flashing DeDense from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207645
Try Helios 0913 for a CM7 rom if you're gonna try one. It'll make you not wanna go back. These forums are crowded with sense roms that look exactly the same and offer nothing different, except some visual stuff, than the other 20 or so sense roms that are here. A good AOSP rom is hard to find on HTC phones now. Like I said though, try Helios or better yet, Hydrogenmod and you'll forget all about sense.
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I love Helios too but, more broadly, I went the way of CM7-based ROMs in general + Lord Clockan's amazing kernels and never looked back.
I never enjoyed such a snappy and responsive device when I was on Sense-based ROMs. Ditto battery life. I'm a massive CyanogenMod fanboy now, and will be flashing Nightlies (which are in a very good condition ATM) until Richfish updates Helios.
People on Sense ROMs have good things to report too, though, so my suggestion (which you've probably already heard a million times) is to try stuff out for yourself.
No one will be able to tell you what you would prefer. Test out a CM rom and a sense rom. Make your own mind up.
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Hi i am a new owner of wilfire buzz.
i want a stable phone! So what do you longtime buzz users think
what is better CM7 or sense
i use/love cm7 it has some cliches from time to time but its the best imo, f you want custom rom use cm7 or some 2.2 sense roms or just root the stock one flash oc kernel and you are done
You are going to get a totally split opinion here (Many love CM, but, some hate the dialer app, the messages app, and its looks, and so on and so forth). Honestly, just use both, and stick with the one that suits YOU.
Depends what you like, cm7 is way way way way more customizible IMO, and also not full of junk i never use so I'm definitely on the cm7 side of the fence, I'm not knocking sense for all you sense lovers out there it is good at what it does and if you use all the things in it its perfect. its just I like to decide what is on my phone and how it looks
But I agree with 3xeno test em all, it took me 3 months to decide to stick with cm7.
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I agree wit u both 3xeno and Scratch... test all the ROMs and decide yourself...
For me CM7 is best wen cam to performance and customization, but lacks all the UI stuff that a sense ROM gives... the intelli dialer, camera, sense feel...so on...
Cm7? The thing i love in it is its versatility and capabilities. And ofcourse if you are a dev, you should use it, but sense is eyecandy, ofcourse i use some elements from sense rom, like gallery and camera in my cm7, and uninstalled some default app from cm7 and replaced some with market app, ( like slow adw launcher with launcher pro) and trying to inter breed cm7 and sense.
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There is no good or bad... CM7 uses adw launcher. So download it and test if you like it more than sense.
My Wildfire have sense.
I just like it more than adw. (dont ask me why!)
Agree with Scratch0805 It depends on what you like really, me personally i enjoy CM7 more cause of the speed, higher OS, more things i can customize on...
I got my wildfire last october but i finally decided to flash it just last week
I'm still on 2.2 mainly to test my applications against it, but what I'd miss with CM7 is that when the phone rings I can just flip it over and it'll STFU. That's really helpful when I'm at work. Also, when it rings and I pull it out of my pocket it lowers the volume a bit. But it also has useless junk like Footprints and Friend Stream.
Does anyone else feel like it's like wrong to run other looks/UIs, like stock Android, or like TouchWiz look on an HTC device. Whenever I try to, I always restore back to sense as soon as I remember that it's an HTC device that's supposed to have sense. Maybe I'm just weird.
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Does anyone else feel like it's like wrong to run other looks/UIs, like stock Android, or like TouchWiz look on an HTC device. Whenever I try to, I always restore back to sense as soon as I remember that it's an HTC device that's supposed to have sense. Maybe I'm just weird.
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Nah. Even when I was stock w/Sense, I used ADWLauncher and tried to make it feel like plain android.
Lol nah. I was just running Adw ex on rls 1.1 for an ics look. It went with the theme. I personally love sense, but don't like all the gloss and crap. I want it all matte.
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I love stock Android too, and I'll probably run ICS when camera is fixed, but stock feels like something is missing. But, I don't feel that way on a Nexus device, only my HTC phone.
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I love stock Android too, and I'll probably run ICS when camera is fixed, but stock feels like something is missing. But, I don't feel that way on a Nexus device, only my HTC phone.
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Well cuz you know what to expect from both. On htc you know they get fancy
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I don't want to start a Sense vs AOSP debate, but IMO Sense is really starting to feel like it's own OS. With each update it seems to feel less like an android. I may be biased because I hated it from the time I had the Eris. Sense was very laggy back then lol.
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I don't want to start a Sense vs AOSP debate, but IMO Sense is really starting to feel like it's own OS. With each update it seems to feel less like an android. I may be biased because I hated it from the time I had the Eris. Sense was very laggy back then lol.
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I have to agree about it coming into its own os feel. I know when I was running the SE X10 everyone asked for a sense port of some kind. I can't stay away from it. I might run GOLauncher from time to time but I flip back to sense.
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I don't want to start a Sense vs AOSP debate, but IMO Sense is really starting to feel like it's own OS. With each update it seems to feel less like an android. I may be biased because I hated it from the time I had the Eris. Sense was very laggy back then lol.
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We see eye to eye allot lol.
I loved sense for a while lol but it hot heavy and bloated to me...and no 5 column app drawer....lame..
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3rd party roms are always too buggy or lack features for me to justify using them. that includes cm7,miui and all of the sense roms.my phone just seems to perform more consistently with the rooted stock roms and sense launcher, that is the only reason i use it.
of course i hate sense and probably won't be buying another htc phone next go around because of it.
never liked Sense, TouchWiz,etc. TagHome is what i've always run.
Yeah kinda feels weird when u go back to sense, but sense isn't for me when we can root and do anything
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sense is the best out of touchwiz, motoblur, etc.
I really enjoyed sense 3.5, plus i love the power saving features. However, I don't like being stuck on one single UI. Its the only reason, why I would never buy an Iphone. Also, I prefer MIUI because i can change customizations as often as i want. Also, I'm thinking some of our dev's will have a complete ICS port way before HTC has a working Sense ICS version.
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I really enjoyed sense 3.5, plus i love the power saving features. However, I don't like being stuck on one single UI. Its the only reason, why I would never buy an Iphone. Also, I prefer MIUI because i can change customizations as often as i want. Also, I'm thinking some of our dev's will have a complete ICS port way before HTC has a working Sense ICS version.
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Something I'd love to see, and would probably keep me using only that is a hybrid between sense and MIUI similar to MIUIwhiz from TSM.
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I always restore back to sense as soon as I remember that it's an HTC device that's supposed to have sense. Maybe I'm just weird.
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I thought I'd love Sense until I got the Inc2, and pretty much immediately disliked it. I didn't like the launcher - dedicating the entire bottom dock to phone, apps and customize buttons, to me, is just stupid, especially the customize button - once I get things set how I like it, why would I ever use that button again. I know it can be modded to be something else, but we're talking about stock Sense. Also, most of the widgets are useless to me - I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any other social network BS, and I don't schedule anything on a calendar. The e-mail and SMS widgets are OK, but would have been better if they were combined into a catch-all messaging widget like Pure Messenger.
So I ended up using ADW EX (which I had been using since my Fascinate). Went back and forth between CM7, Sense and MIUI for a while until I realized I don't care for the overall aesthetics of Sense, and CM7 is just a little too spartan. I don't like MIUI's lack of an app drawer, but I like how it looks/works otherwise, so I've been using MIUI with ADW EX and it suites me just fine. Never once thought that, being an HTC phone, it HAD to run Sense.
Just my 2 cents.
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I thought I'd love Sense until I got the Inc2, and pretty much immediately disliked it. I didn't like the launcher - dedicating the entire bottom dock to phone, apps and customize buttons, to me, is just stupid, especially the customize button - once I get things set how I like it, why would I ever use that button again. I know it can be modded to be something else, but we're talking about stock Sense. Also, most of the widgets are useless to me - I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any other social network BS, and I don't schedule anything on a calendar. The e-mail and SMS widgets are OK, but would have been better if they were combined into a catch-all messaging widget like Pure Messenger.
So I ended up using ADW EX (which I had been using since my Fascinate). Went back and forth between CM7, Sense and MIUI for a while until I realized I don't care for the overall aesthetics of Sense, and CM7 is just a little too spartan. I don't like MIUI's lack of an app drawer, but I like how it looks/works otherwise, so I've been using MIUI with ADW EX and it suites me just fine. Never once thought that, being an HTC phone, it HAD to run Sense.
Just my 2 cents.
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I feel like you're spot on. I feel like that is the beauty of Android, we have so many choices, and no one can tell you what you have to run or what has to be done with your looks. I used to love MIUI, but for some reason I restored to it today after being on sense for a while, and it just didn't do it for me. I'm kinda curious about lefty's cm7.2 kang build. I love this phone and how many choices there are and how diverse we have it here. To each there own, I love sense, but I also love AOSP. I love Android. Haha
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I just came to the DInc2 from OG D1, and I've actually really taken to the Sense UI. To me, coming from custom froyo then GB Roms, then a few HC and ICS themed Roms, the Sense feels so much more polished and intuitive.
I'm running Skyraider with dres' OC kernel, but even stock didn't seem laggy, just crazy bloated.
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There are a lot of Sense features I like, but the only thing I end up using really is the Ring-Pull and shortcut Sense lockscreen. Dedicating valuable screen space is not cool, especially with how little you can change it (skins only for stock). I think HTC does a good job with it, it just isn't for me. I'm liking ADW ex right now on rls1.1, but I'm just biding my time for MIUI to put out their ICS build like I'm sure a lot of people are.
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There are a lot of Sense features I like, but the only thing I end up using really is the Ring-Pull and shortcut Sense lockscreen. Dedicating valuable screen space is not cool, especially with how little you can change it (skins only for stock). I think HTC does a good job with it, it just isn't for me. I'm liking ADW ex right now on rls1.1, but I'm just biding my time for MIUI to put out their ICS build like I'm sure a lot of people are.
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Have you tried the CM7 "rings" lockscreen? It gives you the option to put any app shortcuts on the screen.
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Have you tried the CM7 "rings" lockscreen? It gives you the option to put any app shortcuts on the screen.
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I haven't. Operation is smooth? And I assume these can be used with MIUI?
And lastly, where do I find these?