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Desire Memory Space

Ok, so I finally upgraded to Android 2.2 and moved all my applications (except a few that don't work like that) over to my SD Card thanks to the hack.
Yet I still only have 43MB/147MB...Whats the deal?

Go into Manage Applications and delete data and cache of your apps. The Dolphin browser had something like 50mb of user data for me. Stopped using it now
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__WiZaRD__ said:
Go into Manage Applications and delete data and cache of your apps. The Dolphin browser had something like 50mb of user data for me. Stopped using it now
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if you buy a licence for dolphin it will move the cache to the sd card

bmancell said:
Ok, so I finally upgraded to Android 2.2 and moved all my applications (except a few that don't work like that) over to my SD Card thanks to the hack.
Yet I still only have 43MB/147MB...Whats the deal?
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its because you using legacy apps2sd as apposed to apps2sd+, legacy apps2sd only stores the .apk on the sd card, where as apps2sd+ moves alot more of the program data and cache' to the sd card

AndroHero said:
its because you using legacy apps2sd as apposed to apps2sd+, legacy apps2sd only stores the .apk on the sd card, where as apps2sd+ moves alot more of the program data and cache' to the sd card
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So how does one get the + lol

bmancell said:
So how does one get the + lol
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what rom are you using? if your using custom rom that already has apps2sd+ its as simple as creating an ext 2/3/4 partition on your sd card ...

AndroHero said:
what rom are you using? if your using custom rom that already has apps2sd+ its as simple as creating an ext 2/3/4 partition on your sd card ...
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Using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
and the App Mod Install Location

bmancell said:
Using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
and the App Mod Install Location
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that rom dosent have apps2sd+ i suggest if you want more disk space, you try a rom with apps2sd+, like leedroid or nextsence but remember it wont work if you dont create an ext partition on your sd card

AndroHero said:
that rom dosent have apps2sd+ i suggest if you want more disk space, you try a rom with apps2sd+, like leedroid or nextsence but remember it wont work if you dont create an ext partition on your sd card
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Well, eventually we won't need Mod Install or apps2sd+ to do it right, developers will make there apps do it auto? no...
Seems like I have enough space right now, much more then I did before hand, with 2.1. So should be fine. I just found it weird.
*and no way to add apps2sd+ to this ROM?

AndroHero said:
what rom are you using? if your using custom rom that already has apps2sd+ its as simple as creating an ext 2/3/4 partition on your sd card ...
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How does one go about installing Apps2SD+ manually, without resorting to flashing a custom rom (as there are some members here who, like myself, prefer stock roms)?

Teppic24 said:
How does one go about installing Apps2SD+ manually, without resorting to flashing a custom rom (as there are some members here who, like myself, prefer stock roms)?
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if your rooted you just need an apps2sd update.zip and flash it from recovery, becareful tho most of the ones ive seen on google are for eclair and wont work with froyo, maybe post a thread in the android development section asking someone to make you one, it wont take a skilled person long

AndroHero said:
if your rooted you just need an apps2sd update.zip and flash it from recovery, becareful tho most of the ones ive seen on google are for eclair and wont work with froyo, maybe post a thread in the android development section asking someone to make you one, it wont take a skilled person long
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I am rooted (via UnRevoked), and have even got a nice class 6 card already partitioned and waiting.
Surely if it wouldn't take a skilled person long to do it someone would have done it by now? I've seen a few requests in these forums since Froyo was released asking how to install apps2sd, and yet they all either get ignored or pointed towards a custom rom. It's almost as if the people who know how to do it want to keep the secret to themselves!

[Q] Installing other ROM's than CM7

Hey Guys!!
So I have some question to flashing new ROM's and I would greatly appreciate your answers.So first off I'm going to tell you what I already did do.
Permrooted my HTC DESIRE Z
Flashed CM7
So, now I see plenty of roms here in the android development section and here is are my questions:
1.If I want to flash these roms, do I just have to put them into the root of my SD cart and flash them per clockword recovery?
2.I know that I have to wipe data and cache before flashing, but is there a way to backup my current ROM(So my current homescreen, installed apps,saved messages) in case I don't like the new ROM?
Thanks very very much for your answers!

whitis said:
Hey Guys!!
So I have some question to flashing new ROM's and I would greatly appreciate your answers.So first off I'm going to tell you what I already did do.
Permrooted my HTC DESIRE Z
Flashed CM7
So, now I see plenty of roms here in the android development section and here is are my questions:
1.If I want to flash these roms, do I just have to put them into the root of my SD cart and flash them per clockword recovery?
2.I know that I have to wipe data and cache before flashing, but is there a way to backup my current ROM(So my current homescreen, installed apps,saved messages) in case I don't like the new ROM?
Thanks very very much for your answers!
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Flash any ROM just as you did CM7; as for backing up, which you should always do just incase the flash fails, there's an option to backup your current ROM in CWM. Sadly, it gives the backup a generic date/time name so I'd recommend backing up via RM which allows you to name the backup.
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use this app titanium backup (pro is preferred)https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
then redownload it in your new rom and everything should be good....
oh and since your new instead of manually wiping flash superwipe for cleaner installs then install your new rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992

master.peterm said:
use this app titanium backup (pro is preferred)https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
then redownload it in your new rom and everything should be good....
oh and since your new instead of manually wiping flash superwipe for cleaner installs then install your new rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
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I would also recommend getting titanium backup Pro, its only a few $$ and it batch restores your apps. its a time saver if you flash ROMs often.

go to rom manager and click back up rom and name it the name of the rom and the date you backed it up
download titanium backup then open that and click batch then backup all apps and system data
then make a folder and call it ROMS and keep all your roms in there so its nice and organized
wipe and all that good stuff
then go back and flash the new rom the same way you did cm7
then install titanium again then click batch then restore all apps system data
if you dont like it just go back to rom manager and click manage backups and click on it and click restore and itll go back to your cm7

rickyiswhite said:
go to rom manager and click back up rom and name it the name of the rom and the date you backed it up
download titanium backup then open that and click batch then backup all apps and system data
then make a folder and call it ROMS and keep all your roms in there so its nice and organized
wipe and all that good stuff
then go back and flash the new rom the same way you did cm7
then install titanium again then click batch then restore all apps system data
if you dont like it just go back to rom manager and click manage backups and click on it and click restore and itll go back to your cm7
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No, no, no ... Never restore system data unless flashing between like ROMs. You want to backup/restore apps and data (not system data).
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OriginalGabriel said:
No, no, no ... Never restore system data unless flashing between like ROMs. You want to backup/restore apps and data (not system data).
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THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM

martonikaj said:
THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM
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Good tip! But I don't see an option to backup apps and data. Just batch app buckup or batch app buckup + system data.
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Murrzeak said:
Good tip! But I don't see an option to backup apps and data. Just batch app buckup or batch app buckup + system data.
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just hit menu > batch. Then hit "Backup all user apps". That'll back up the apps with the data. Titanium Backup inherently includes the app data with the app backup, it doesn't just backup the plain .apk's.
Also remember that you need to re-backup all the apps before you flash a new ROM, that way the backups are up-to-date with the latest changes you've made to them.

Wow thanks for all your replies, you guys really helped me out!!
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
Thanks again, you guys are awesome

whitis said:
Wow thanks for all your replies, you guys really helped me out!!
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
Thanks again, you guys are awesome
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If you backed up your stock ROM just restore it, otherwise check the sticky in the dev forum or the wiki to download the stock ROM
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whitis said:
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
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If you've made a backup with ROM manger (nandroid backup) then you can simply restore this. I'm assuming you didn't if you're asking though. Check the wiki or dev section to find a stock rooted ROM. Make sure you get the stock rooted version, otherwise you're going to unroot yourself.
whitis said:
And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
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Have you done speedtests to confirm? This could be any number of issues, and I'm sure you're not the only one who has experienced WiFi slowdowns, but there's no known issue in CM7 that affects WiFi speeds.

martonikaj said:
Have you done speedtests to confirm? This could be any number of issues, and I'm sure you're not the only one who has experienced WiFi slowdowns, but there's no known issue in CM7 that affects WiFi speeds.
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No I didn't, but i saw The wifi Symbol in The notificationbar showing less bars than IT showed me on my stock ROM.
But i assume it's a Kind of Placebo effect because The wofür symbol in cm7 has Overall less Bars to fill then the stock one
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whitis said:
No I didn't, but i saw The wifi Symbol in The notificationbar showing less bars than IT showed me on my stock ROM.
But i assume it's a Kind of Placebo effect because The wofür symbol in cm7 has Overall less Bars to fill then the stock one
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Yea, less bars doesn't mean worse signal necessarily. CM7 reports signal with bars pretty accurately, moreso than the stock ROM for sure. If you want to know for sure, run comparative speed tests, or go to settings > about phone > status and see your WiFi signal strength.

martonikaj said:
THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM
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Did I say backups? No, I said roms. When you download roms and put them into a folder called ROMS instead of having them scattered around your SD card. He's asking for suggestions. Not someones opinion on someones suggestion. I'm telling him what I would do. Sorry I don't do everything the way you do it.
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rickyiswhite said:
Did I say backups? No, I said roms. When you download roms and put them into a folder called ROMS instead of having them scattered around your SD card. He's asking for suggestions. Not someones opinion on someones suggestion. I'm telling him what I would do. Sorry I don't do everything the way you do it.
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Settle down. Seriously. Either way there is no need to create a folder for them. I'd be surprised if he had so many ROMs on his SDcard that he couldn't distinguish between them. They're all named appropriately or you can rename them. Also, there's no need to keep the .zip's on the SDcard after you've flashed anyways.

martonikaj said:
Settle down. Seriously. Either way there is no need to create a folder for them. I'd be surprised if he had so many ROMs on his SDcard that he couldn't distinguish between them. They're all named appropriately or you can rename them. Also, there's no need to keep the .zip's on the SDcard after you've flashed anyways.
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So say somehow you lose your rm backups and something goes wrong, then you have re download the rom and if you don't have a pc near by, you have to download it from your phone and all of us tmobile users know that downloading a rom uses a good amount of data, so if you wanna download a new one on your phone if you have to, have fun being throttled quicker. A friend of mine had that happen to him, he was ****ed so I let him use my sd card to flash the rom. And I only have glite and the rom I'm running now, I don't have every single rom on xda
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rickyiswhite said:
So say somehow you lose your rm backups and something goes wrong, then you have re download the rom and if you don't have a pc near by, you have to download it from your phone and all of us tmobile users know that downloading a rom uses a good amount of data, so if you wanna download a new one on your phone if you have to, have fun being throttled quicker. A friend of mine had that happen to him, he was ****ed so I let him use my sd card to flash the rom. And I only have glite and the rom I'm running now, I don't have every single rom on xda.
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If you lose your ROM manager backups, chances are you lost your SDcard, which also contained your initial ROM .zip's (aka lose one, you lose the other). Just keep the .zip's on your computer, its wasted space to have the originals and the backups on the same SDcard. Storage space ain't free.
I don't understand why you would download ROMs continuously over 3G when you can simply wait and download on a computer. Who needs to download a ROM that bad that they would be willing to go over their data cap for it? Seems to be a weird use-case, you clearly wouldn't download a ROM on 3G if you were close to your data throttle. I'm sure at that point your current ROM can last you the rest of the day till you get to a computer.
If you're "somehow losing" your ROM manager backups you might have other issues to deal with first.

Rom question

I started checking out some roms to flash and saw something that caught my attention. No all, but a cpl roms say "wipe data, dalvik,cache, system, sdext". i am running Energy 1/12/12 sense 3.5 rom with anthrax kernel and dt a2sd. If i wipe my sdext wont all my apps be gone? is this step necessary? do i just need to avoid these roms or is there another way to restore my apps? or woould i have to make sure they are backed up in Tibackup then redownload from market and then restore data after flashing new rom?

You should do that procedure with ANY rom. Yes, your apps will be gone, but that's a good thing, means the rom will run smoothly and not have "leftover" bits from old roms. Use Titanium Backup to backup and restore your apps.

sitlet said:
You should do that procedure with ANY rom. Yes, your apps will be gone, but that's a good thing, means the rom will run smoothly and not have "leftover" bits from old roms. Use Titanium Backup to backup and restore your apps.
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so what about apps iv paid for?

dbenney said:
so what about apps iv paid for?
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You can reinstall those too. Those purchases are linked to your Google account, so when Market signs into your Google account, it will know what apps you've paid for, and you can simply re-download them.

Captain_Throwback said:
You can reinstall those too. Those purchases are linked to your Google account, so when Market signs into your Google account, it will know what apps you've paid for, and you can simply re-download them.
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Capt, sorry for being such a noob, but i thought the there were 2 reasons for partitioning your sd card...1. save internal space and 2. save apps so that you could jsut restore them when you flashed different roms. I am trying to learn as much as i can about this stuff.

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Capt, sorry for being such a noob, but i thought the there were 2 reasons for partitioning your sd card...1. save internal space and 2. save apps so that you could jsut restore them when you flashed different roms. I am trying to learn as much as i can about this stuff.
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Actually there is no 2. The reason to partition is to get more internal space and so your able to manage your storage settings to your liking
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ok... i think i understand this now... jsut to free up internal space, and when i flash a differnet rom, i just reinstall all my apps and use tibackup to restore data. thanks EVO4GNOOB....always a wealth of knowledge. how to i remember all the apps i have so i dont forget any critical ones?

dbenney said:
ok... i think i understand this now... jsut to free up internal space, and when i flash a differnet rom, i just reinstall all my apps and use tibackup to restore data. thanks EVO4GNOOB....always a wealth of knowledge. how to i remember all the apps i have so i dont forget any critical ones?
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Backup your apps with titanium backup so you don't have to remember any apps
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evo4gnoob said:
Backup your apps with titanium backup so you don't have to remember any apps
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^^This^^
And, because I am the king of overkill, I also make sure all my apps are on a list in appbrain so I have a handy list to go to if I have any problems with titanium backup or want to do completely fresh installs for any reason.

Yea Titanium will backup both the app AND it's associated data (i.e. game saves). If you buy the pro version (VERY worth it) you can backup and restore all your apps with one click.
But as everyone else said, your paid apps are always remembered from the market, so you can always just re-download them. This won't save your app's data, but it can be done.

You can now also use Google to backup and restore your apps and when u sign in on a fresh install it reinstalls all your apps from the market but its slower than tibu since the download and install instead of just installing from a compressed backup on your SD
Edit: also mybackuproot will backup.and install apps with one click and its free but last time I used it I couldn't find a way to pick and choose apps like in tibu you can run a batch and check off ones you want to reinstall and not have to install em all
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[Q] Removing Bloatware without Flashing new Rom?

Is it possible to remove the bloatware apps on a HOX without having to flash a new Rom? I can deal with rooting my phone but the rom business is confusing and id rather keep Sense but get rid of the pointless apps if thats possible
Thanks, apologies if this has been covered before.

Here's what we're going to do.
Root your device.
Get "Root Explorer" or any other file explorer with root capabilities.
Mount R/O.
Go to "system ->app" and remove what you like.
Keep in mind that there are some system apps that shouldn't be removed though!

D3VICE said:
Here's what we're going to do.
Root your device.
Get "Root Explorer" or any other file explorer with root capabilities.
Mount R/O.
Go to "system ->app" and remove what you like.
Keep in mind that there are some system apps that shouldn't be removed though!
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Thanks, will do.
Is it easy to upgrade rom, say when KLP is released?

You must make a nandroid backup directly after flashing the custom recovery. You need it to get back to full stock to be able to have official updates.
If you want to delete system apps i would like to recommend titanium backup.....you can uninstall and re-install system apps.

Removing Bloatware
Try an app called "Root App Delete". I tested it by removing one piece of bloatware and seems to work very well (you must be rooted).
Being over cautious I have disabled (rather than deleted) all other bloatware for 2 weeks now just to be sure all is ok to delete.

yes it is possible
captaincrayola said:
Is it possible to remove the bloatware apps on a HOX without having to flash a new Rom? I can deal with rooting my phone but the rom business is confusing and id rather keep Sense but get rid of the pointless apps if thats possible
Thanks, apologies if this has been covered before.
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There are many apps listed
you can try sd maid, rom toolbox, root uninstall,

See you have many options now

Thanks for your replies, can you not get OTA updates when you're rooted even if you stick with stock Rom then?

Yes you can but you have to leave the rom itself 100% stock (no removing of system apps) and you have to reflash the stock recovery after applying the root because you root the rom via a custom recovery.....i dont know exactly if a tool can root the rom without a custom recovery.....
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This ROM Still works great- [ROM] Stock Deodexed 98.16.3 Base

[ROM] Stock Deodexed 98.16.3 Base
One of the few based on the newest ...78 update. Plus initd!
SAFESTRAP READY!
I plan to port the (Avsitralia deodexed mod) SD swap to this rom.
Thread is locked but was other reasons than it's performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2408763
Direct download thanks to Moparman371 : http://d-h.st/users/Moparman371/?fld_id=23066#files
DL count 49 9/9/13
Enjoy.

Thanks a lot!
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I'm on locked but trying to debloat stock myself. I have safestrap installed primarily just to backup (I have a full stock backup). Freezing apps with TiBackup can be trial and error. I was hoping to figure out what all can be frozen and ultimately deleted to gain space. Is it possible to safestrap this ROM, set it up to where you want it, back it up, delete ROM slot and finally restore this backup to primary slot to gain maximum space? Maybe not possible, or am I making it too difficult? Would be nice if there was just a .bat script to debloat,etc. to the stock ROM.

HemRoyd said:
I'm on locked but trying to debloat stock myself. I have safestrap installed primarily just to backup (I have a full stock backup). Freezing apps with TiBackup can be trial and error. I was hoping to figure out what all can be frozen and ultimately deleted to gain space. Is it possible to safestrap this ROM, set it up to where you want it, back it up, delete ROM slot and finally restore this backup to primary slot to gain maximum space? Maybe not possible, or am I making it too difficult? Would be nice if there was just a .bat script to debloat,etc. to the stock ROM.
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there used to be an app on the market that debloats the ROM for you, but it was compatible with 4.1.1 only (Razr M toolbox, I think)

HemRoyd said:
I'm on locked but trying to debloat stock myself. I have safestrap installed primarily just to backup (I have a full stock backup). Freezing apps with TiBackup can be trial and error. I was hoping to figure out what all can be frozen and ultimately deleted to gain space. Is it possible to safestrap this ROM, set it up to where you want it, back it up, delete ROM slot and finally restore this backup to primary slot to gain maximum space? Maybe not possible, or am I making it too difficult? Would be nice if there was just a .bat script to debloat,etc. to the stock ROM.
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I do not know how one would choose but by duplicating a "list" from a bug free deodexed rom. There are 5 around: 2 from 4pda , this one, clean rom & one cooking @ rzr.

I have been trying to get the SD swap to work via initd. Seems initd is not functional. Comes with empty file "placeholder".
Question-has anyone used the initd on this rom?
Thanks

Been using for quite a few days now, and seems like it stops the shakes that were very annoying! Just cleared cache and dalvik and flashed! On TWRP 2.6
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aviwdoowks said:
I have been trying to get the SD swap to work via initd. Seems initd is not functional. Comes with empty file "placeholder".
Question-has anyone used the initd on this rom?
Thanks
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Not quite sure what initd is, but I did notice when I flashed this I now have superuser, and super su (which is what I had before) which one should I keep? They keep conflicting each other.
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