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[Q] Facebook push notification

Hi,
I used to have facebook push notification on my Galaxy S.
However, since around 1.5 weeks back - I rarely get this notification.
Facebook notification refresh setting is already set to every 30 minutes (but why is this necessary? Since it should be a "pushed" notification, isn't it?)
I've done plenty of things on the phone in the past 2 weeks (one of them is factory wipe); so I can't put my finger on when is the last time the push notification work.
Anyone got any clue?

Actually i noticed i havent been getting notifications either.
On 2.2.1 JPY.

same for me!! weird!!

poundesville said:
Hi,
I used to have facebook push notification on my Galaxy S.
However, since around 1.5 weeks back - I rarely get this notification.
Facebook notification refresh setting is already set to every 30 minutes (but why is this necessary? Since it should be a "pushed" notification, isn't it?)
I've done plenty of things on the phone in the past 2 weeks (one of them is factory wipe); so I can't put my finger on when is the last time the push notification work.
Anyone got any clue?
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I don't think I've ever had the facility to have the notifcations pushed. It probably works out in your best interests as it will probably save you more battery life and data in the long run

splish2010 said:
I don't think I've ever had the facility to have the notifcations pushed. It probably works out in your best interests as it will probably save you more battery life and data in the long run
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I think the opposite actually.
If it's not "pushed", then the apps in your phone will try to connect at certain interval to check if there's latest records.
If my understand is correct, in the past, facebook application for android, works by using the 'refresh interval'. But in Dec, the "pushed notification" is added into this apps
resource: cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20025786-251.html
* sorry, I can't create a URL link in my post due to low post count
I used 2.2.1 and had pushed notification. My guess is that this happen only in Jan, and probably after I did the X'mas version Darky's ROM.
Do you guys think this pushed notification works based on your phone "product code" ? Flashing ROM is known to change your Product CODE.. (I think mine was changed to XOR, XEE, XSO before.. )

poundesville said:
I think the opposite actually.
If it's not "pushed", then the apps in your phone will try to connect at certain interval to check if there's latest records.
If my understand is correct, in the past, facebook application for android, works by using the 'refresh interval'. But in Dec, the "pushed notification" is added into this apps
resource: cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20025786-251.html
* sorry, I can't create a URL link in my post due to low post count
I used 2.2.1 and had pushed notification. My guess is that this happen only in Jan, and probably after I did the X'mas version Darky's ROM.
Do you guys think this pushed notification works based on your phone "product code" ? Flashing ROM is known to change your Product CODE.. (I think mine was changed to XOR, XEE, XSO before.. )
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Yeah the app itself has settings for regular updates but I hadn't noticed a push setting previously. Can only assume FB pulled it for some reason because the ROM's themselves don't really touch any third party .apks.

Guys..
I got "pushed' notification now; but only for messages so far.
This is what I did in facebook notification settings..
Untick all Notifications (e.g. messages, friend requests, event invites) and also untick the notifications. Also set the Refresh interval to - NEVER
get out from that notification setting page.
Get back in again and this time around, ticked all notifications back .. but keep the Refresh interval to NEVER.
Using push notificatiion, so don't need to ask the Facebook apps to "poll" the servers for latest data.
once again, i'm on 2.2.1 using Darky's ROM V8.0 with latest SpeedMod Kernel (dated 13th Jan 2011).

I wasn't getting any notifications pushed either and i read somewhere (can't remember where) that you can fix it by resetting the push notifications thing (i think its called c2dm).
One way of doing this is by going into Settings > Applications > Facebook > Clear Data
Then open up facebook, enter your details and it should work (it worked for me)

sounds like when I did change the notification setting, that have the some effect as clear the data and create a new one.

got the same prob also since last two weeks.. flash every rom from stock to custom.. from 2.1 to 2.2 based.. and finally on darky 8.1.. still push notification for facebook app not popping up anymore.. but it works fine before.. can someone identify what is the source of this problem?..

Same problem here. Any ideas?

I actually do not have this problem BUT.... I can´t hear any pop sound when someone sends me a message on FaceBook....
I have gone into settings and enabled sound and everything there but I never hear any sound when I get a message
Any way to fix that?... would be SUPER sweet

poundesville said:
Do you guys think this pushed notification works based on your phone "product code" ? Flashing ROM is known to change your Product CODE.. (I think mine was changed to XOR, XEE, XSO before.. )
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Push notifications work via push service which is dependent upon "Android ID", not product code, I know that because I had problems with Kik Messenger which works with push notifications. People at Kik explained that push service is connected with unique Android ID of your device and if it changes, you will probably have problems with notifications. Android ID changes if you, for example, flash custom ROM. I was lucky enough to create complete nandroid backup when I first bought the phone. Kik didn't work properly on Darky's (or any other custom rom) so what I did was: restored my original ROM, installed Android ID changer from market, wrote down my ID, flashed Darky's again, installed Android ID changer again and restored my original ID.
Now push service works like a charm
Hope it helps...

I suggest facebook sms notifications. It's true push (And you don't need data enabled!)

oswade said:
I suggest facebook sms notifications. It's true push (And you don't need data enabled!)
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is that a app or how is it enabled?
If it´s an App... please tell me the name

Delete Facebook from Advanced Task Killer App.
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SAEVARM3 said:
is that a app or how is it enabled?
If it´s an App... please tell me the name
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on facebook desktop website, in the top right corner click "account" > "Account settings" > "mobile" (a tab).
The sms contains the content of the notification (altho can be cut short if too long) and depending on the context, a url to the mobile website.
EDIT: oops, looks like iceland isn't on the dropdown list... (probably no carriers in your country support the function ) Many other countries do though :S

I use F plus (flow) now.
Might not be push, but at least I get them now, which is more than the facebook app did ever did.
Sent from my Captivate.

No matter what settings I use on facebook they always revert to default after not using the app for a while.
Any ideas?

anyone find a solution to this yet? sorry for bumping a old thread but it's driving me nuts not being able to check notifications on facebook!

For Those Having Problems on GVoice

Seeing the "similar threads we found", I see that I'm not the only one having this issue and we're not the only phone having problems.
Turns out there's a known issue on Google Voice where if the customer adds a line, subtracts a line or screws with their service in any way that requires an activation of the line that's on Google Voice (like an upgrade...yknow like we all did ), that Google Voice can fizzle out. Basically, it automatically unchecks the box that says "this phone can receive texts" which prevents your phone from receiving texts. This also changes the setting on the phone app to route texts through your stock messages app again. This will step-by-step you into changing them back.
Well I got mine working again, and I'd like to share how I did it so maybe it'll work for you.
**NOTICE**
This is for one line on Google Voice only. Apparently this won't work if you have multiple phones attached to the same Google account.
Okay:
1. open up your web browser and go to: voice.google.com. Then open up google voice on your phone.
2. in the browser, click your phone number (top right corner). A menu will pop up and you'll notice the "this phone receives text messages" (or however it's written) is unchecked. That's the bug, it'll uncheck itself every time you go to that screen. Also, when this box becomes unchecked, it actually changes a setting in the Google Voice app on your phone to route texts through the stock messaging app again (annoying).
3. Check that box so that it's one (don't close out of the browser yet, leave it on that screen)
4. Then, in your google voice app on the phone, go to menu > more > settings > notifications and sync where there's a drop down menu specifying whether you want messages received by the messages app or GVoice. choose which one you want (i'm assuming if you're here, you use GVoice). This is the setting I mentioned that it changes in the app (all the way back in step 2).
5. Now you should still have GVoice open in your browser. If not, you follow directions badly and need to repeat the process. If yes, you should have the unchecked box checked (when it wasn't before) and the setting on the phone app itself changed back to normal.
6. While the browser is open, have a few people text you. You should now be getting texts and voicemails delivered to your GVoice account again. This isn't necessary, but to test to make sure you did it right.
Last: once you re-establish that "connection" close the browser and never go back to that options page again (it'll just un-check that box and change that setting on the phone and make you do this all over again). Now your GVoice should be working properly.
*addendum*
If you're still have trouble after this. Go back to the options page where you started, check the box, then uninstall/re-install Gvoice on your phone and go through the set up again...then continue following the steps.
*addendum 2*
If this fails, then disable GVoice services with Sprint and set them up anew using the app on your phone (like you did the first time).
Don't worry about the "can't do whatever", just hit "skip".
Then follow the steps above.
Hope this helps, I know us GVoice users are minority but hey we need people to figure crap out too

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Seeing the "similar threads we found", I see that I'm not the only one having this issue and we're not the only phone having problems.
Turns out there's a known issue on Google Voice where if the customer adds a line, subtracts a line or screws with their service in any way that requires an activation of the line that's on Google Voice (like an upgrade...yknow like we all did ), that Google Voice can fizzle out. Basically, it automatically unchecks the box that says "this phone can receive texts" which prevents your phone from receiving texts. This also changes the setting on the phone app to route texts through your stock messages app again. This will step-by-step you into changing them back.
Well I got mine working again, and I'd like to share how I did it so maybe it'll work for you.
Okay:
1. open up your web browser and go to: voice.google.com. Then open up google voice on your phone.
2. in the browser, click your phone number (top right corner). A menu will pop up and you'll notice the "this phone receives text messages" (or however it's written) is unchecked. That's the bug, it'll uncheck itself every time you go to that screen. Also, when this box becomes unchecked, it actually changes a setting in the Google Voice app on your phone to route texts through the stock messaging app again (annoying).
3. Check that box so that it's one (don't close out of the browser yet, leave it on that screen)
4. Then, in your google voice app on the phone, go to menu > more > settings > notifications and sync where there's a drop down menu specifying whether you want messages received by the messages app or GVoice. choose which one you want (i'm assuming if you're here, you use GVoice). This is the setting I mentioned that it changes in the app (all the way back in step 2).
5. Now you should still have GVoice open in your browser. If not, you follow directions badly and need to repeat the process. If yes, you should have the unchecked box checked (when it wasn't before) and the setting on the phone app itself changed back to normal.
6. While the browser is open, have a few people text you. You should now be getting texts and voicemails delivered to your GVoice account again. This isn't necessary, but to test to make sure you did it right.
Last: once you re-establish that "connection" close the browser and never go back to that options page again (it'll just un-check that box and change that setting on the phone and make you do this all over again). Now your GVoice should be working properly.
*addendum*
If you're still have trouble after this. Go back to the options page where you started, check the box, then uninstall/re-install Gvoice on your phone and go through the set up again...then continue following the steps.
*addendum 2*
If this fails, then disable GVoice services with Sprint and set them up anew using the app on your phone (like you did the first time).
Don't worry about the "can't do whatever", just hit "skip".
Then follow the steps above.
Hope this helps, I know us GVoice users are minority but hey we need people to figure crap out too
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I have tried these steps and nothing works..If i change the setting in the app to use the google voice app for receiving text it automatically un checks the box online in the google voice settings. When I recheck the box online the app reverts back to using the stock app for messaging in the goggle voice app. quite pissed off about it but i'm still receiving calls from my google voice number so I guess I will live with it until its figured out.

alnova1 said:
I have tried these steps and nothing works..If i change the setting in the app to use the google voice app for receiving text it automatically un checks the box online in the google voice settings. When I recheck the box online the app reverts back to using the stock app for messaging in the goggle voice app. quite pissed off about it but i'm still receiving calls from my google voice number so I guess I will live with it until its figured out.
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here's the essential part:
Check the box, but leave the browser window open so you can see it.
save the setting for using GVoice but leave the settings open so you can see it.
Then open a new browser window and text someone using the browser interface in a separate tab. I use Google Chrome and have the GVoice extension so I didn't need to do that.
The idea to get texts moving back and forth while both are checked without leaving so they can't uncheck (which they won't do if you stay in the windows).
Once you get the flow of traffic going, then leave those settings windows and never, ever go back to them. It's a cheap fix and a house of cards of sorts (i've accidentally undone my own work twice), but it does work.

Ok..this is what I discovered for me. I have an Evo3D flashed to boost and I have the same google voice number going to it as I do the touch. I was looking at my settings online and suddenly the box for receiving text to the 3D was unchecked so I rechecked it. Well when I did that my messages started going through the stock messaging app on the 3D . So I decided to uncheck both my Touch and my 3d in the settings online to receive text and now I'm getting my text back through the google app. This makes no sense but its working right now.

alnova1 said:
Ok..this is what I discovered for me. I have an Evo3D flashed to boost and I have the same google voice number going to it as I do the touch. I was looking at my settings online and suddenly the box for receiving text to the 3D was unchecked so I rechecked it. Well when I did that my messages started going through the stock messaging app on the 3D . So I decided to uncheck both my Touch and my 3d in the settings online to receive text and now I'm getting my text back through the google app. This makes no sense but its working right now.
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Tell me about it dude, I spent 4 hours finding my method last night and an extra hour today screwing around. I have the worst headache right now lol.
I didn't know you had two lines on GVoice, I have no clue how that works lol. Hopefully your tinkering helps others.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Tell me about it dude, I spent 4 hours finding my method last night and an extra hour today screwing around. I have the worst headache right now lol.
I didn't know you had two lines on GVoice, I have no clue how that works lol. Hopefully your tinkering helps others.
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They will both ring at the same time and its pretty good. I don't know whats going on but I don't see how I can be receiving text messages with it unchecked on the setting part on the web...oh well!

alnova1 said:
They will both ring at the same time and its pretty good. I don't know whats going on but I don't see how I can be receiving text messages with it unchecked on the setting part on the web...oh well!
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yeah, it is a known issue and Google is working on it (at least according to their forums). it started with the newest Google Voice updates for honeycomb.
I actually got the E4T to lag last night using Google Voice..I felt it was brag worthy

AbsolutZeroGI said:
yeah, it is a known issue and Google is working on it (at least according to their forums). it started with the newest Google Voice updates for honeycomb.
I actually got the E4T to lag last night using Google Voice..I felt it was brag worthy
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That is brag worthy..lol. Well i'm glad to hear there working on it because I ported my number to google when they first started offering that option so I could have any phone and it would show up my work number...and thats why I need it to work because its my work number! lol

alnova1 said:
That is brag worthy..lol. Well i'm glad to hear there working on it because I ported my number to google when they first started offering that option so I could have any phone and it would show up my work number...and thats why I need it to work because its my work number! lol
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I suspect it'll be fixed in the next update or two.
If you didn't mind going through the WHOLE set up process again, you could find and download an older apk and just go back to a bug-free version. I have a transparent themed one and an inverted one from before the latest update and they worked fine before I updated it (ever since, they are screwed up).

AbsolutZeroGI said:
I suspect it'll be fixed in the next update or two.
If you didn't mind going through the WHOLE set up process again, you could find and download an older apk and just go back to a bug-free version. I have a transparent themed one and an inverted one from before the latest update and they worked fine before I updated it (ever since, they are screwed up).
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I guess since I have it working for the moment I will leave it alone but thats an idea though.

alnova1 said:
I guess since I have it working for the moment I will leave it alone but thats an idea though.
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You can find the themed ones in the apps/themes section of the OG epic 4g. search forum: Google Voice and you'll find it.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
You can find the themed ones in the apps/themes section of the OG epic 4g. search forum: Google Voice and you'll find it.
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Thank you sir...

How well does the Me Tile work for you?

when u get a notification on FB how long before the Tile informs you?
Well for me I dont get informed 99% of the times. Even in notifications hub the last notifications are hours old and it only get refreshed when i open the hub otherwise there is rarely any background updating. I have seen the tile show something maybe 5-6 times in 1 month now. what gives?
P.S I have add/removed the tile and restarted the phone.

It has worked pretty well for me. The other day it had stopped working but now its been fine...
I've got the Facebook app pinned to my start screen and when that notifies me I gnerally get a Me tile notification as well

I put me tile into my family contact group and use it exclusively to be able to retrieve my sent e-mail items faster. No problems with tile notifications though.

I see sporadic updates, but even when it does update, it doesn't really tell me much, other than the fact that I have something I need to go look for. Not really a "glance and go" tile at all for me.
For example, the last update I saw was (name changed) "John Smith and 3 other people commented on..." So I knew I needed to bring up the Facebook app. But I already knew that from looking at the notification badge on the Facebook app tile.

RoboDad said:
I see sporadic updates, but even when it does update, it doesn't really tell me much, other than the fact that I have something I need to go look for. Not really a "glance and go" tile at all for me.
For example, the last update I saw was (name changed) "John Smith and 3 other people commented on..." So I knew I needed to bring up the Facebook app. But I already knew that from looking at the notification badge on the Facebook app tile.
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Well you dont need to bring up the app.. you can just go into the me tile and swipe to notifications. will bring up posts, tagged photos etc...
Since mango i've found i very rarely use the FB app any more.

I never use it. I just go to the social hub and see what's new.

Updates about every half an hour for me.
For Facebook, it's slower than email notifications, which usually comes almost instantaneously. But it's still useful in the sense that I can see what everybody is saying in the comment first before adding my own. It's better than going to IE9.
For twitter, it's really useful for alerting me about mentions. Since Twitter's email notifications rarely work anyway. Plus, there isn't a WP7 app that gives tile/toast notifications faster than the Me Tile, so I'll just be happy with my Me Tile.

I just have it there for the animation. It updates too slow to be useful for that. Its useful for checking in quickly, though. Facebook app notifications are way superior but I guess it can b useful for Twitter.
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I actually prefer it to the Facebook App. Works fine for Facebook notifications which come as they arrive, bit slow for Twitter notifications though.

The Me tile works pretty good, maybe updating every 30 minutes or so. The strange thing is that when synced with my Facebook account it would only show me notifications that were directly related to me (my posts, ppl comment on my posts or pics), but now it is showing other people. Anyone know how this works?

Me tile's notifications work, but bages on facebook tile don't :/

Freypal said:
Well you dont need to bring up the app.. you can just go into the me tile and swipe to notifications. will bring up posts, tagged photos etc...
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And you missed the point. Whether it's the Facebook app or the people hub, the issue is the same. The tile doesn't give me useful information, just an alert that I have to go somewhere ELSE to get what I need. A badge would do the exact same thing.

so why is it that when I go into the me hub it refreshes and shows me updates that happened 2-3 hours ago :S why doesnt it get refreshed automatically and show it on the tile. it's pissing me off. this is a big reason why I got WP7 (social integration)

ammarmalik said:
so why is it that when I go into the me hub it refreshes and shows me updates that happened 2-3 hours ago :S why doesnt it get refreshed automatically and show it on the tile. it's pissing me off. this is a big reason why I got WP7 (social integration)
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same problem !

I almost never require immediate notications so the ME tile works just fine for me.

xcen_xda said:
For twitter, it's really useful for alerting me about mentions. Since Twitter's email notifications rarely work anyway. Plus, there isn't a WP7 app that gives tile/toast notifications faster than the Me Tile, so I'll just be happy with my Me Tile.
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Rowi supports push notifications.

ammarmalik said:
so why is it that when I go into the me hub it refreshes and shows me updates that happened 2-3 hours ago :S why doesnt it get refreshed automatically and show it on the tile. it's pissing me off. this is a big reason why I got WP7 (social integration)
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if you are on WIFI then please note that wifi drops on screen lock/sleep. You need an active data connection E/3G

works well for me on my HD7 as well as on my arrive

backlashsid said:
same problem !
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Is the problem that is has to refresh when you go in or that even after the refresh it still has old data?

ammarmalik said:
so why is it that when I go into the me hub it refreshes and shows me updates that happened 2-3 hours ago :S why doesnt it get refreshed automatically and show it on the tile. it's pissing me off. this is a big reason why I got WP7 (social integration)
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Can you check if battery saver is turned on? I believe that push notifications stop if battery saver is on....only manual trigger refreshes notifications.

Two small things that are insanely frustrating

Sorry everyone, gotta rant.
Bing.
Oh Bing, you useless, useless application. No Zehr's in my city? No Service Canada locations?
I don't care that "it only works in US and UK", if your product doesn't work in a certain country, then WHY is it sold there?
It'd be like a blu-ray player that doesn't play DVD's.
No rotation-lock.
This in itself isn't that bad, sometimes the display turns sideways, what IS bad, is trying to get it the way you were using it again. Shaking the phone, twisting it, being patient, nothing works. Once it rotates the way you weren't using it, gooooood luck, cause that thing ain't ever rotating back.
I feel like smashing my phone into a million pieces every time I see if flipping over.

Yes both things that need addressing, and I am expecting Bing to have massive upgrades in Apollo. The rotation lock is a no brainer, and should be there. Hopefully also in Apollo.

I have no issues with rotation on my HD7 whatsoever, when I rotate it rotates without hesitation. It might be a problem with your phone and not the OS itself, and Zehr? Wow that's old school,ain't seen one of those around my area in quite sometime.

sure haven't said:
Sorry everyone, gotta rant.
Bing.
Oh Bing, you useless, useless application. No Zehr's in my city? No Service Canada locations?
I don't care that "it only works in US and UK", if your product doesn't work in a certain country, then WHY is it sold there?
It'd be like a blu-ray player that doesn't play DVD's.
No rotation-lock.
This in itself isn't that bad, sometimes the display turns sideways, what IS bad, is trying to get it the way you were using it again. Shaking the phone, twisting it, being patient, nothing works. Once it rotates the way you weren't using it, gooooood luck, cause that thing ain't ever rotating back.
I feel like smashing my phone into a million pieces every time I see if flipping over.
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1st calm down and do a little googling.
Answer for A
http://www.wpcentral.com/activate-scout-bing-vision-mango-canada-others-how-to
Answer for B
What app are you having rotation issues in? rotation always worked in all apps for me with NO issues.
What O/S version? Nodo? Mango? above?

You can also install orientation lock (assuming you can side load and are IU);
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/orientation_lock_v3-04-16-12
Not built in but at least an option

Bing works only in certain countries, its like Zune though.
The rotation is good, never had problems with it.

it's funny, just yesterday I was telling a coworker how well the rotate works on my arrive compared to my old tp2 wm 6.5. No issues here.
Bing is great too..... AMERICANS FTW! j/k!

I wish Bing rewards was integrated into the phone, just another selling point Microsoft.... That way when the real deal Skype App/integration comes we can search Bing to earn Skype minutes , simply with our phones..

LiFePo4 said:
You can also install orientation lock (assuming you can side load and are IU);
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/orientation_lock_v3-04-16-12
Not built in but at least an option
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Lucky for many of us, it seems that IU (interop unlock) isn't necessary for the latest release. YAY!
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/orientation_lock_release-02-06-12

Oh gods double on the rotation. It's usually completely fine. And keeps how it's meant to be.
But once in a while (usually in IE) it rotates and then takes ages to realise I want it back.

I think it's frustating Facebook messages. It should receive inboxes. I hate need to go to Facebook app to read inbox messages. That sucks so bad..

Never had a problem with quick rotating back on any of my 9 Windows Phones(1 Lumia 900, 3 Radars, 2 Hd7s, 2 HD2's), not on a single one.
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mikeeam said:
I think it's frustating Facebook messages. It should receive inboxes. I hate need to go to Facebook app to read inbox messages. That sucks so bad..
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Are you signed into FB chat via the messaging hub or the Me tile? You should receive most FB messages the same as SMS.

anseio said:
Are you signed into FB chat via the messaging hub or the Me tile? You should receive most FB messages the same as SMS.
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I receive when I'm online, yes. But those messages are Facebook chat. Facebook have unified inbox and chat messages, but still, when i'm not online and someone send me a message, I just receive it through the app.

mikeeam said:
I receive when I'm online, yes. But those messages are Facebook chat. Facebook have unified inbox and chat messages, but still, when i'm not online and someone send me a message, I just receive it through the app.
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It would be nice if it all were treated the same. I do think it's an FB issue though. I've got friends whose messages come to my phone, and others' who don't. What I've noticed is that Damon is signed into chat, but Jacob is not. Jacob's messages always appear in the app/online but never in my messaging hub. :|

mikeeam said:
I think it's frustating Facebook messages. It should receive inboxes. I hate need to go to Facebook app to read inbox messages. That sucks so bad..
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Sometimes when people send me a Facebook message I get it in the messaging hub.

Google Hangouts it's horrible!!!

I think it's a horrible app you can't see who is online or busy or whatever. This is not a chat service anymore. There is no contact list basically listing all the people from your G+ and contacts. It's horrible!. In every level. I have to scroll through 800 contacts or search just to send a message and it doesn't even let me know if that person is online, so I have no idea how they are getting my messages

I have to agree. This is pretty terrible. They even removed the calling option so its just video now, as if video-only makes sense on a PHONE.
Hopefully Talk isn't dead by the end of the year.
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Thankfully when you uninstall google hangouts you get google talk back

I'm going to agree as well. I dont like that I cant see who's online. And almost all of my contacts dont have this service so, in my opinion, they shouldnt show up at all.

If you guys have any link to updated apk please post it
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Wow, that sounds bad. I'm so glad I saw this thread before installing this garbage.

kenedy said:
If you guys have any link to updated apk please post it
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It's in the Play Store

NexusHeat said:
Wow, that sounds bad. I'm so glad I saw this thread before installing this garbage.
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I just sent a message to a yahoo account, thinking I was going to get an email or something, NOP! Nothing, so you have to be totally sure that message you're sending it's to someone who has a gmail account

chanchan305 said:
Thankfully when you uninstall google hangouts you get google talk back
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I did that as soon as it asked me to confirm my phone number. I really just want the built-in IM that came with my account, not a Whatsapp clone to replace it. I already have Whatsapp.
Hopefully Talk never dies. Hangouts is social media disguised as instant messaging.

So after watching a video on it, I realized it does show who is online by displaying their profile pic at the bottom when they join the hangout. But still, it shouldnt display ALL my contacts in the contact list. Just the ones who have the ability to use it.

Idk maybe it's just me, but I like the new hangout. You can send screenshots again and everything. Granted, it takes some getting used to, but after playing with it a bit, its growing on me
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jsgraphicart said:
So after watching a video on it, I realized it does show who is online by displaying their profile pic at the bottom when they join the hangout. But still, it shouldnt display ALL my contacts in the contact list. Just the ones who have the ability to use it.
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exactly!

I just wish it was a proper unified messaging app - i.e. could send carrier SMS to non-Hangout contacts. Incidentally, anyone know what happens to the message if you do try and send to someone who doesn't have it? Must get routed somewhere?

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I just wish it was a proper unified messaging app - i.e. could send carrier SMS to non-Hangout contacts. Incidentally, anyone know what happens to the message if you do try and send to someone who doesn't have it? Must get routed somewhere?
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I'm still waiting for the message I sent to my yahoo account

chanchan305 said:
I'm still waiting for the message I sent to my yahoo account
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I would think this only works with Gmail/Google+ users. Which, again, is why not all contacts should not be displayed. I'm going to try and search for some info on this.

!!11oneone said:
I just wish it was a proper unified messaging app - i.e. could send carrier SMS to non-Hangout contacts. Incidentally, anyone know what happens to the message if you do try and send to someone who doesn't have it? Must get routed somewhere?
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Why would you think this would happen? Google doesn't want you using carrier SMS anyway. They will shift us to internet-based messaging completely someday. That's why you didn't get SMS integration.
I'm guessing it gets sent to their Google Talk.

chanchan305 said:
I think it's a horrible app you can't see who is online or busy or whatever. This is not a chat service anymore. There is no contact list basically listing all the people from your G+ and contacts. It's horrible!. In every level. I have to scroll through 800 contacts or search just to send a message and it doesn't even let me know if that person is online, so I have no idea how they are getting my messages
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So if you go and try to start a hangout it will show you a list of people to start the hangout with, people not available(offline) has their picture grayed out and the available(online) are shown as usual. As far as the video calling-I think if the person on the other end doesn't have video calling available(due to no front facing camera on their phone or no camera on the desktop/laptop) only voice calling will be the option available....have to test it though... I think it's fresh and after awhile it will get better...I don't hate it.

Sadly a lot not to like so far. I was wondering why there were duplicate users in my contact list, if they are showing non-gmail email accounts separately I guess that explains it. Unfortunately, it doesn't show what account users in the list are coming from so you don't know which one you can use, if any.
Hopefully they will fix the contact mess and re-add status information (online/busy/offline, mobile/desktop). I like the new emoji, but hardly seems worth the great leap backwards in functionality.
On the plus side, you can finally copy text from your message history, so that's one longstanding, inexplicable failure corrected

pfmiller said:
I like the new emoji, but hardly seems worth the great leap backwards in functionality.
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This is what is really annoying. It feels like a dumbed-down product even though its been in the making for what seems like forever. It even requires you to join G+ to get the most out of it. Plus, its not even really that unified, as people still have G+ messenger since this only replaces Talk.
Heck, the app rating in the Play store has plummeted to 3.9 as I type this. What a joke.

completely useless.
I can't believe it took them two years to make this.
google talk was MUCH better, and compared to let's say, whatsapp, google talk was completely useless. that's how bad this thing is.