So I thought Skyraider (3.5 and Athena) were Gingerbread based ROMs. I've been looking around, but I'm still a little confused. Which ones are Gingerbread based ROMS and which ones are currently the most bug-free?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865331 is this the only one?
Thanks
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
Your post should be a sticky or a FAQ. This makes perfect sense and really cleared up any confusion I had. Thanks!
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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never knew what AOSP stood for, so thanks for that!
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Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
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I have been playing with ROMs for last few months and could not figure this out until this post.
thanks
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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I agree with the rest, thank you for the insight on what the ROMS mean... I am currently running CM7 Nightly build #17, only issue I still have is playing a video and a qcp file...sigh anyhow great stuff and thanks again
nocode99 said:
So I thought Skyraider (3.5 and Athena) were Gingerbread based ROMs. I've been looking around, but I'm still a little confused. Which ones are Gingerbread based ROMS and which ones are currently the most bug-free?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865331 is this the only one?
Thanks
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http://t3hh4xx0r.com/ check here for some gingerbread
Removing gingerbread rom HELP!
I am new to the xda websites and forums alltogether. I rooted my phone about 3 weeks ago, and found a rom by xda to try an alpha version of gingerbread. I need to return my phone to either the rooted stage it was previously to adding the gingerbread, or completely unroot it altogether. I imagine that someone has probably posted about this already, but I was unable to find it. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Please excuse my idiocy.
Here is probably the best place to start researching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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Cyanogen also has a stable build which is based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 where the nightly build is currently based on 2.3.4 and I can attest to the fact that build #108 is bug free.
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Wrath_unleashed said:
Cyanogen also has a stable build which is based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 where the nightly build is currently based on 2.3.4 and I can attest to the fact that build #108 is bug free.
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The post that you quoted was from January. I assure you that it was correct at the time
Here's one. I'm running it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113507&page=63
Sorry in advance for the noob question but I am new to this forum, and to Android in general. I recently Upgraded to DK28 using Odin on my Epic. I was wondering if there were any specific community roms which are better than dk28, and if so, which ones are they and what features do they have which the dk28 doesn't offer, and how stable are they? Which ones do you recommend?
Thanks.
Most ROMs now re based on DK28. Read some of the ROM threads for info... I recommend researching CWM3 and ext4,this may be needed on some ROMs...
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Get nebula 1.0.7 its as stable as it gets. And its based off the dk28 modem. Stock dk28 isn't that geat so throw a custom rom over it and have fun!
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Is there any ROM which includes an alternate place to get APPS, similar to the Iphone's Cydia? For a non-programmer whos lookin for a overall 'cool yet stable' rom, which one do you recommend? Does the installation of the ROM delete any information from the phone (contacts, apps, etc)? And can the ROM be uninstalled?
Going with the stock dk28 is a good first choice. As far as I know there aren't any repositories like cydia for Android. That is due to the fact that you can already install unsigned apps in your stock android os.
Number one thing to do right now is READ. The threads are very long, so maybe read the first few pages, and last few pages of the long ones. Usually the first few posts are new updates to the thread, and the last posts discuss the most recent happenings and general discussion of the current version of those roms. Reading the stuff inbetween can be helpful to know how far each rom has come since inception, but its usually irrelevant and you can skip over it.
I've used cyanogen for another handset and I thought it was very well polished. I really like the ACS Syndicate rom. Although its 2.1, I liked it more than stock dk28 2.2. Im currently on bonsai4all, which requires you to format your phone into ext4. Its another step beyond just rooting and booting an OS, but its really fast and stable. I've also used Viper rom. There is a good version which is dual boot (ext4, and RFS), and I was using that before going with bonsai. I would give a strong recommendation between those two.
I can't really see anything getting that much better than bonsai. I wont say its the best, but i'm very impressed. I can say I look forward to seeing Syndicate rom once it gets to 2.2 (they are waiting for official 2.2 source) and also cyanogen 6.2 or better yet 7 (non betas).
Lastly, if you see the words Beta, please dont ask "how stable is it?" Its a beta version and not designed for a daily use. Some betas are very polished and nearly complete, but remember it's still just a beta. hope this helps
In my opinion bonsai rom is the most stable and a new release is getting ready to be released. I'm on eof the beta testers for the new release and its getting.ready.to be released.
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I want to start of by apologizing if this is a question that is answered somewhere else. I DID search and checked all of the 'similar threads' before posting.
I am wondering what the difference is between a froyo kernel and a gingerbread kernel. I don't really need super specific technical details, just the semi-technical general answer.
The reason I ask is because I am running the Incredibly Re-engineered (v2.3.2) with the incredikernel v2.6.32.27 and noticed that the incredikernel thread got updated.
Incredikernel Thread
In the update, there is listed a froyo and a gingerbread specific kernel. Do you have to chose a specific one for a specific rom? If so, how do you know which one to chose.
My About Phone screen shows "Android Version 2.2" so I assume that means I need the froyo kernel?
Edit: I also noticed that I didn't finish the thread title. I meant to put Froyo or Gingerbread Kernel... Can this be changed after posting? I'm not the best with forums.
You are exactly correct, you would use the Froyo kernel. Froyo is 2.2, Gingerbread is 2.3, and you need to use a kernel for whichever version of Android you are running.
Perfect. Thank you very much.
the gingerbread kernels are for gingerbread based roms like CM7 you want the froyo one if you are still running android OS 2.2 ( look in the "about phone" tab in settings to confirm. also keep in mind that there are differant froyo kernels as well there is sense based kerners and AOSP kernels.
So the sense based kernels are based off of the HTC kernel? and AOSP is the completely open source project done by the community? How do you find out which type of rom you are running, other than looking on the forum/web page? Is there a spot in your phone settings that will list this? I've never seen one that I can remember.
Well, it's a matter of what flavor of Android the kernel is made for that determines if it's a Sense kernel or an AOSP one. As far as determining the ROM type, I am not aware of anything that specifically gives it away other than the general feeling of Sense verses the general feeling of AOSP; with Sense you have all the HTC widgets and apps, unless it's a Sense-less ROM.
TL;DR, your best bet is to just note what kind of ROM it is when you download.
Ok. Thanks for all of the help.
Hopefully any other newbies out there who have the same questions might get some use from this too.
You are certainly welcome.
I am currently running kingdom stock sense 3.0 and my ? Is does anyone know of any good kernels to go with this ROM? This will be my first kernel I look into installing so I'm still gathering info before I actually do it so any info is greatly appreciated.
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There aren't any kernels that will work with that rom aside from the stock one that comes with it.
To further explain as far as I understand it:
Since the sense 3.0 roms are based on leaked versions of gingerbread, we do not have access to the full source required to customize the kernel. Older Froyo kernels are not compatible, so we have to use the stock one that came with the leak. Be patient however, since we are supposed to be getting the official gingerbread OTA "soon" (current rumor is by the end of the month), and HTC has launched a developer's site, that should provide even more resources in the near future.
Awesome thanks for the info
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carpemortis said:
To further explain as far as I understand it:
Since the sense 3.0 roms are based on leaked versions of gingerbread, we do not have access to the full source required to customize the kernel. Older Froyo kernels are not compatible, so we have to use the stock one that came with the leak. Be patient however, since we are supposed to be getting the official gingerbread OTA "soon" (current rumor is by the end of the month), and HTC has launched a developer's site, that should provide even more resources in the near future.
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Thanks, i am currently running Synergy Nightlies (6/13). Everything seems alright, battery is a little questionable but not horrible, but am interested to see what kind of improvements i can make to it.
I am guessing some of the devs here got hold of the rom a little before the rest of us.
I am currently running Simply AOSP EC05 which has been pretty stable for me.
Want to upgrade to GB for an extremely stable bloatware free ROM. Is there anything now or should I wait a bit to give devs time to play with the new official release?
Thanks!
jmsnyc said:
I am guessing some of the devs here got hold of the rom a little before the rest of us.
I am currently running Simply AOSP EC05 which has been pretty stable for me.
Want to upgrade to GB for an extremely stable bloatware free ROM. Is there anything now or should I wait a bit to give devs time to play with the new official release?
Thanks!
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Haven't seen anything custom yet. But I have seen a pre rooted deodexed version i believe. Looks like a few devs have indicated they will have working custom versions up by tomorrow.
LOL wow. The OTA just started and already asking for custom.
If this community is to learn just 1 thing out of all our update situations... please be it patience.
Waiting patiently, excited to see what will come of this update
There are custom roms in the works, but you could always play with the modded stock roms that are popping up..
nikon120 said:
LOL wow. The OTA just started and already asking for custom.
If this community is to learn just 1 thing out of all our update situations... please be it patience.
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that's why I ended the subject with the question "is it too early"... so I'm guessing your answer to that is yes. I just figured some devs got hold beforehhand.
I saw the ERA thread for the Hurricane stockyish rom...looks promising...
Anxious for aclean simple rom...but patient =)
Hurricane is based on the pre release. It's been out for a while. It's good, but id wait till later. You want the best right?
Lord Syrics Jr.
EPIC 4G
ACS ICS BETA v6
Eh17+ (soon nubernal)
Lord Syrics Jr. said:
Hurricane is based on the pre release. It's been out for a while. It's good, but id wait till later. You want the best right?
Lord Syrics Jr.
EPIC 4G
ACS ICS BETA v6
Eh17+ (soon nubernal)
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There's an update to Hurricane coming soon..
Should be in testing in the next day or so..
Has anybody heard if acs is working on srf 1.3 or whatever it will be called?
My phone has been pretty stable running Simply AOSP. I installed the flashable EC05 to EI22 modem yesterday. Only issue is have been getting some random shutdowns. Not sure if it started before modem update - but looking to flash soon nevertheless.
So I noticed in the dev forum there are two interesting looking EI22 based ROMS... ACS ICS and also ERA's Legendary.
I realize each rom has its respective dedicated thread but is there a major difference between them that could help me decide between the two...
Best way to find out about custom ROMs is look in Development. The newest ones will always be at the top and simply read the OP of each.