I am planning to buy either MT4G or G2, I like the feel of the G2 more but since this is my last month in the US and it will be hard to replace the phone , I am worried about future physical problems. For those who had the G2 for more than a month , does the hinge really cause you any problems with normal usage? like texting , holding the phone , put it in your pocket? browsing the web? Does the screen close with normal usage? Did you notice any problems with building quality ?
nope, i think im one of the only ones that dont.
In my experience the hinge is really only a pain in the ass when you're actually inspecting it and testing it's quality, I mean I don't have a problem with it at all from day to day use. Other than the hinge it's a great phone to have and it would be a shame to let a little imperfection ruin it.
the hinge isnt a problem, its only a problem if YOU make it a problem (yes some do have faulty hinges) but in reality, this phone follows Murphys law and the laws of gravity. or w/e....my phone seems fine.
p.s. AS long as you use the phone in the intended way it was supposed to be used. then you shouldnt have a probem what so ever.
no. the hinge on mine work fine. I barely even open it thanks to swype.
hinge is so problem. if it's not this loose, this phone is ok. and what makes me frustrated is some can get not loose hinge but mine is this loose. it's hard to hold so the display doesnt fall.
holding the phone with keyboard closed is also like shaky.
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hinge is so problem. if it's not this loose, this phone is ok. and what makes me frustrated is some can get not loose hinge but mine is this loose. it's hard to hold so the display doesnt fall.
holding the phone with keyboard closed is also like shaky.
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Even with normal usage? like texting while walking or sitting?
Let me put it this way: I'm a 15 year old kid and I can't hold it with the keyboard open without holding onto the screen as well. So it'd be pretty much impossible for the screen to "fall" down on me.
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I am planning to buy either MT4G or G2, I like the feel of the G2 more but since this is my last month in the US and it will be hard to replace the phone , I am worried about future physical problems. For those who had the G2 for more than a month , does the hinge really cause you any problems with normal usage? like texting , holding the phone , put it in your pocket? browsing the web? Does the screen close with normal usage? Did you notice any problems with building quality ?
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The only down fall of the hinge is when you are in bed trying to txt or do something. But I found a way to cure that. I type with one thumb and the other thumb holds the screen up lol
Or u can just swype.
Other than that I love this phone..its soo powerful and impresive. Good job HTC.
Of you use swype, your qwerty use will be minimal
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never had a problem with the hinge ever.
I have issues with my hinge from time to time, If im holding my phone at a certain angle while using the hardware keyboard the screen somemtimes falls and it is a bit shaky, and for those who say just use swype what's the point of owning the G2 if you don't use the hardware keyboard at all???
The Hinge's poor design doesn't detract much from the overall greatness of this phone. But after holding DOZENS have G2's I'm pretty sure that's how they all are... nobody has a G2 hinge as tight as the G1 hinge, and it' impossible just based on the design.
It is a little loose even when closed if you press in the right spots.... it's not awful but some find it more annoying than others. My girl has a Droid 2 Global, and her sliding mechanism is as tight as a 14 year old Amish girl.... but her phone can't compete with mine on any other level.
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The Hinge's poor design doesn't detract much from the overall greatness of this phone. But after holding DOZENS have G2's I'm pretty sure that's how they all are... nobody has a G2 hinge as tight as the G1 hinge, and it' impossible just based on the design.
It is a little loose even when closed if you press in the right spots.... it's not awful but some find it more annoying than others. My girl has a Droid 2 Global, and her sliding mechanism is as tight as a 14 year old Amish girl.... but her phone can't compete with mine on any other level.
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14 year old Amish girl. Aha. WIN!
To be honest, the hinge will never be a problem thanks to swype.
Other than the few times i pull good old qwerty out to type my retardedly long password that contains symbols and letters and numbers, I always use Swype for everyday messages. It's so easy to use and so fast.
And if you do want to use the qwerty keyboard, here's a hint:
Put the inside bottom half of both your index fingers on the part of the phone where the top and the bottom are still connected together after the screen has slid up, and the top part of ur indexes hooked around the phone resting on the back panel. The pressure from the bottom part of your index fingers will keep the screen up.
This is the natural way I held the phone while typing and am surprised at people who complain about the screen sliding down while typing, cuz they would have to hold it pretty retardedly to get the screen to slide down.
I myself don't have a problem with the hinge. Some people might if they use a holster, so just be careful if you holster it. Also my wifes phone actually pops open in her purse which drains the battery sooner. I also had that happen while in my hoody pocket.
I have a simple, if not botched, solution for it though. When you get the phone, the cord and headset have a nice small black rubber band on them. Its the perfect fit for this phone. I just stretch it around bottom over the track pad. Its easy to pull off and holds the phone snugly closed.
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I have yet to have a hinge problem, but I find myself continually changing volumes accidentally.
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...6 weeks and the hinge is still tight.
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my hinge is loose but it is no problem for me even when i type upside down in bed because the base of my index fingers support the screen so i have no problem whatsoever with the phone falling down on me
its been very tight for me. I dont think there is anything to worry about. i dont see anything going wrong with it unless you abuse it severely over time.
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After praising the tp2 for nearly two weeks now I have decided I will return it to MPD.
I paid 457 for this phone and I will except nothing less than 100 percent perfection in terms of build quality.
After 2 weeks use I have to following problems:
- The sceen travel before it hits the lcd in the centre of the screen had increased rapidly and I can now notice a significant change between sensitivity at the edges and the centre (about 1-2mm).
- The sliding mechanism has got easier which is good, but the movement of the screen is about 7mm when at full tilt, where as it was minimal at best when I received it.
Im not writing this as a sob story; I have a genuine worry that these could be very common problems and yet im unsure at the chances of returniing it for a replacement - hoping it wont have the same problems
Mine went back I had it one day, They called me when they received it and then acitoned a refund. The Touch Pro 2 is a terrible built device for something that cost's half a grand.
I have gone back to the Touch HD but really miss the keyboard oh well at least my device isn't going to fall apart. My partners device was perfect and now after a month of use it is now wobblying when you touch the screen and slider is so loose.
sorry you need to mail the webshop and wait for your reply sometimes they reply quick other days they take a while to reply. It will get worse get it replaced or refunded is my advice.
had two deviced now and sent both back. i cross my fingers the third onw will be without any isues. think MANY bad manufactured devices are out there
on my 4th so far and not 100% happy, wobble in the screen when tilted. Very bad design from HTC, poor build quality.
wobble in the screen would not be such a big problem for me i never tilit the screen. hope ill get a device with no other problems next time.
i cant understand why they built this useless tilt feature into the slider the slider could be much more "robust" without this tilit mechanism.
Say it ain't so....
How common are these screen issues that you guys are mentioning, the wobble and such? These issues that you folks are bringing up are starting to worry me, and what worries me even more is that some of you went through 3 or 4 of the TP2s already, leading me to believe that these problems are more widespread than I'd like. I've been anticipating this phone's arrival since February and I really hope that these issues aren't so common that it turns the TP2 into a total let-down instead of the great device that all this hype is leading me to believe. If at all possible could you guys please post updates on your situations?
thanks, and I hope all works out well for you guys.
What do you mean by a wobble? Is the screen itself deformed or are the letters/pictures deformed on the display?
Maybe you can post a picture or something?
I hardly ever use the Tilt feature. When I first heard about it I thought it was brilliant, still looks cool, but it isn't comfortable to work with ...
the wobble issue is discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524641
some people are worried about the screen wobbles a little bit when its tilt like in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6A5v-DR1A8
i think this is ok if it is not too much.
BUT i had two devices with a problem similar to this video and thats absolute not ok for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObBGt40hYg
the screen wobble isnt such a big problem for me, it makes it easier to slide out flat.
my problem is with the flex on the touchscreen. it feels like you push down on one plastic layer which then hits the lcd behind, making it less sensitive in the centre than the edges where i dont have this problem.
i think there is nothing to do. this is the "touch" in touch screen. it has to be little bit flexible to react to your input. dont compare it to the iphone thats a nother technique.
or do you mean something else?
Hi lhwparis
real glad you posted those videos of the wobble. I was beginning to think it was something quite serious, but i see that kind of bounce in most tiltable systems. So not so worried now.
Has anyone done a poll yet of how many people have a phone that does this? strange that its not the same with everyones.
what do you mean with "bounce"? video 1 or the beginning of video 2.
i think the wobble when screen is tilt is normal on most phones (only some without wobble) and thats not a great problem. the second video with the gap between the display and the phone in closed position is a realy great problem for me.
yes i did watch both, i guess im refrerring to the wobble, whilst its open.
perhaps the bounce whilst its closed is not so normal, although again im not sure how much of gap would be a source of concern.
I've got to be honest here. I am one of the fussiest people in the world when it comes to gadgets, but I think there is a lot of over-reaction about the "wobble" issue. The mechanism which allows the screen to tilt will have some "play" in it - otherwise you'd never be able to slide the keyboard out. The same "play" is what means that there is a gap between keyboard and screen - and this will be larger on the side nearest the power button, and it will give a little when you push on this side of the device, as the two halves are held together by the hinge at the opposite edge. It's unavoidable - even if your device doesn't do this from new, I can pretty much guarantee that it will do so within a few weeks. If the hinge is actually loose - so the screen doesn't stay put where you leave it, or if the slider mechanism works without you wanting it to, then you have a problem - but small gaps and small amounts of play in the mechanism are not only normal; they are what prevents damage from operating the mechanism.
"Give" near the centre of a large touchscreen is also pretty common - it's difficult to get the touchscreen to lay perfectly flat, as it is only secured at the edges. Again, there will be a degree of variation between samples, but this is another thing that will change with time. It also quite often varies with air pressure - if you take any touchscreen device (other than the iPhone, which uses a different principle) up in an aircraft, the touchscreen will frequently bulge out more from the screen due to the reduced ambient pressure and the small amount of air trapped under the touchscreen.
I really think that some of you are getting a little too over-stressed about this - 99% of these devices are fine. Leaving aside anything else, these will all have been tested in the factory, and mechanical function of the screen hinges and touchscreen will have been tested on every device before it was packed.
still, its disturbing to hear how many people are getting differences in their build quality. perhaps this is why tmobile uk are not going to be launching the device?
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i think there is nothing to do. this is the "touch" in touch screen. it has to be little bit flexible to react to your input. dont compare it to the iphone thats a nother technique.
or do you mean something else?
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The flexibility in the hinge is nothing to do with the resistiveness of the screen. Regardless of the screen, there should not be this amount of flex in the hinge.
what a load a rubbish.............if any of you fusspots owned a tytn 2 you probably would have nightmares. too much fussing over a wobble which is manditory to avoid sudden harsh impacts and decrease tension on the ribbon that goes from the board to the screen. the screen when tiltled was not actually done so we can sit there wobbling it. in fact no one actually needs to wobble the phone. the phone is sturdy when in full tilt then it works. imagine people actually sitting there wobbling the thing. what do you think will happen? it will loosen...........the wobble is not a feature of the phone but for safety and longevity of the moving parts of the phone. if you don't like the phone then don't buy it. if the screen had no wobble i'd be reading whole new thread of how it should. obviously this phone willl not please everyone and so those moaning about wobble should not buy the phone! obviously there will be some faulty handsets but needing 4 handsets should tell you that maybe it ain't the phone but actually you with the issue. it amazes me how people always find one thing negative to focus on but forget all and i mean all the positive aspects of this phone. what wobble?????????? touch HD which i do own has nothing on tp2 so thats a backward step! this is a phone not a tennis racket
no you are right, but the gap has got bigger in the middle since when i first got it, and comparing it to my friends HD the gap is far greater. There is barely any travel when it comes to the edges, and I see no difference of why this couldnt be the same for the centre.
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what a load a rubbish.............if any of you fusspots owned a tytn 2 you probably would have nightmares. too much fussing over a wobble which is manditory to avoid sudden harsh impacts and decrease tension on the ribbon that goes from the board to the screen. the screen when tiltled was not actually done so we can sit there wobbling it. in fact no one actually needs to wobble the phone. the phone is sturdy when in full tilt then it works. imagine people actually sitting there wobbling the thing. what do you think will happen? it will loosen...........the wobble is not a feature of the phone but for safety and longevity of the moving parts of the phone. if you don't like the phone then don't buy it. if the screen had no wobble i'd be reading whole new thread of how it should. obviously this phone willl not please everyone and so those moaning about wobble should not buy the phone! obviously there will be some faulty handsets but needing 4 handsets should tell you that maybe it ain't the phone but actually you with the issue. it amazes me how people always find one thing negative to focus on but forget all and i mean all the positive aspects of this phone. what wobble?????????? touch HD which i do own has nothing on tp2 so thats a backward step! this is a phone not a tennis racket.
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i said that wobble is normal in all posts before but i sent back my two devices because of the issue shown in this video (at the beginning):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObBGt40hYg
so you want to tell me its normal that i can lift of the screen more than 5mm in closed position?
my friend has a TP2 too and he cant lift of the screen from device and there is nearly no gap!
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After praising the tp2 for nearly two weeks now I have decided I will return it to MPD.
I paid 457 for this phone and I will except nothing less than 100 percent perfection in terms of build quality.
After 2 weeks use I have to following problems:
- The sceen travel before it hits the lcd in the centre of the screen had increased rapidly and I can now notice a significant change between sensitivity at the edges and the centre (about 1-2mm).
- The sliding mechanism has got easier which is good, but the movement of the screen is about 7mm when at full tilt, where as it was minimal at best when I received it.
Im not writing this as a sob story; I have a genuine worry that these could be very common problems and yet im unsure at the chances of returniing it for a replacement - hoping it wont have the same problems
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Good luck..
The screen went really weird on mine, colours all messed up so on. Emailed mpd, which of course they didn't answer in a timely fashion so I phoned them to which they refused to help me over the phone and told me to email.
Half a day later I get a reply refusing to take it back as I've had it for over seven days and to send it to Regeneris or whoever they're called so I did that. The idiots at MPD failed to realise Regeneris wont' repair these phones, and then forward it on to HTC .. which of course it bizarrely taken them three days to do so.
Apparently now HTC have had it a week, and I've been bugged Regeneris every day, and the answer is the same .. "We've not heard anything, but I'll email them again" Either they've not emailed them as promised or HTCs customer service is evern worse than MPDs.
I've now been without my TP2 for over two weeks, with no sign of getting back and needless to say I'm pissed off!
First off, I just got my tilt2 from stores yesterday, and I must say, I love it so much! Just got a few concerns...
For those of you who have the tilt2, when the screen is tilted all the way up, is there a "looseness" of about 2-3 degrees? Meaning, theres just a small portion of the tilt2 at its most "tilted moment," so to speak, that it just wiggles back and forth for about2-3 degrees? It's not too big of a deal really as the current tilting of the tilt2 seems MUCH more sturdy (and it will probably last much longer holding its tilt feature), but I want to know if its a physical defect on my current tilt2, or that's just how its made for whatever reason.
Also, I am quite worried about how much looser the top screen portion of the tilt2 is from the bottom keyboard when closed all the way as compared to my original tilt. If I were to slightly use my hands to grab each separate part and pull them apart gently, it is easy to see that it easily lifts, and if I pulled any harder, I can almost break those halves apart, whereas my first tilt BARELY budged even after 2 years of use. Basically, everything about the tilt2 is better, but it seems like it won't be able to take much of a beating as compared to the tilt1.
Just concerned about inevitable wear-n-tear, and its effects itll have in the long run, or couple of months even. Thanks in advance for future input!
Regards,
K
The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.
I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.
I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.
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The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.
I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.
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Thanks for your reply, makes me feel at ease. Also, I think you've misunderstood, my gap is as small as you say, and from your words, it must be normal. It's when I intentionally put pressure on the screen and keyboard (not that I would do that on a normal basis, just for initial inspection purposes) that makes the gap wider. Though, I guess with a tilting screen like this, theres less tightness between the screen and keyboard. But nonetheless, all is normal. I was only concerned with those when I purposely applied my own force. I was not use to how much more delicate this machine, the tilt2, is as compared to my brick of a tilt1.
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K
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I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.
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Yes, that was one of my que's from the start.
It was when the whole device was closed and I was playing with the touch screen, you could feel the screen go down a bit as I applied pressure to it. It was almost like if i pressed any harder, the bottom of the screen would just keep hitting the keyboard. But hey, glad to see that this seems to be a normal thing.
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K
PS. Oh and yes, I noticed it when I tapped on the left side of the screen as well.
Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
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Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
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well what caused it to get scratch? maybe there were objects that were hitting against it in your pocket(if you do put it in your pocket)
or do you flip the phone over for speakerphone and tend to drag it on the desk around?
i certainly have no scratches on mine and i did drag it a little but none
Huh?
I don't have any scratches whatsoever on my phone. I had this baby from December and the only protection I have my phone is the screen protector. I don't what you have been rubbing against your phone but it must be something rough, as posted above.
I've had my TP2 for months and no scratches here.
the screen is definitely a scratch magnet! my screen protector is less than a month old and its noticeably time for a new one
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the screen is definitely a scratch magnet! my screen protector is less than a month old and its noticeably time for a new one
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Well that's what you have the screen protector for! That said.... depending on the quality of your protector it will show more wear quicker. For a time I ran on old tilt without a protector and NO scratches showed up on it at all. Then I put the protector on and bam... after a month.. scratched to hell. Same tile the Tilt 2!
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Has anyone noticed that the silver keys Send,End, Back on the front get scratched up really quickly. Everywhere else on the phone is protected and brand new but the phone has been sitting on my desk for a couple days. Is it a scratch magnet or what?
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Annnd yeah I have had my phone since December and not a scratch on the thing. I keep my phone in a holster on my belt and when I'm in my truck it goes into the car holder. I often put my phone face down on tables and what not and no scratches on the front for me.
It's all based on how careful you are with something that has value. Perhaps it's just you and not the phone.
Actually what I was asking everyone was whether or not they noticed that the chrome keys are pretty prone to light scratches, hardly noticeable in certain angles.There was an issue like this with the touch pro where they were exchanging phones for free at repair centers.I bought the phone a week ago and have barely used it and noticed that the chrome keys were lightly scuffed its as they put so much care into everything and stick some crappy chrome on it to make it stand out. Ive had HTC phones the past 4 years and hate the chrome keys and bezels. My screen is always protected sorry if I confused some.. I treat my phone with alot of care so the user and not the phone comment was unnecessary. I was just asking other peoples opinions. I had the same problem with the Tilts chrome keys where the paint just wore away with regular use.
Ive just noticed that different carriers use different materials and finishes on phones to make it more branded. Also I was talking about a sprint TP2 and I went into the reverse logistics and found out it was a refurb so it wasn't as new as I thought.
Thanks for everyones thoughts though.
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Actually what I was asking everyone was whether or not they noticed that the chrome keys are pretty prone to light scratches, hardly noticeable in certain angles.There was an issue like this with the touch pro where they were exchanging phones for free at repair centers.I bought the phone a week ago and have barely used it and noticed that the chrome keys were lightly scuffed its as they put so much care into everything and stick some crappy chrome on it to make it stand out. Ive had HTC phones the past 4 years and hate the chrome keys and bezels. My screen is always protected sorry if I confused some.. I treat my phone with alot of care so the user and not the phone comment was unnecessary. I was just asking other peoples opinions. I had the same problem with the Tilts chrome keys where the paint just wore away with regular use.
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What carrier are you with? I have never seen chrome keys on any touch pro 2 variations.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/ima...om+"HTC+Touch+Pro2+for+Sprint+Review"&popup=1
Sprint Touch Pro 2. And whether its chrome or metallic it sux
soooo, its been about 5 months since the G2 came out, closely followed the be Desire Z
I have had my Z for 2 months now and the hinge is grand flops a bit but it doesn't bother me.
Im just wondering how your phone is now since you have gotten, it has it become unusable, or has you first expectations about the hinge just been over exaggerated like i think it has been
HOW HAS YOURS BEEN?
Mine has been fine. I feel that it has been over exaggerated a bit.
I was always confused by the hinge issue. I've never had a real problem with it, but I guess I can see where people come from. I'll have some problems if I'm laying in bed and the phone is above my face, then yeah, gravity brings it down. But I prefer to have a looser hinge than the one with the G1 where it snaps into place. The top shell is broken because of that snap.
yeah when i hold the phone upside down texting it doesn't flop anyway cus when i grip it my hand kinda stop it from falling naturally anyway so thts no problem for me
My hinge seems about the same from when I first purchased my G2. It is loose, no doubt about that however it really has not affected the way I use the phone.
I think T-Mobile and HTC could have handled customer complaints in a better way but other then that its not a big deal for me.
It turned out rather anticlimactic. Had the phone for months and the hinge is fine. Opens easily and generally stays closed until I want it open.
The hinges hold closed more tightly when I remove my case. The case holds on by gripping inside the seam and keeps it partly open. Without the case, I have to remember to lift to open.
I've been holding off buying the S III for some time in hopes of something better, but nothing has come along so I finally bit the bullet. I bought a new white one off ebay for $450, which is on the cheaper side. It came with a rather deep scratch on the bottom right on the chrome, but frankly its hard to notice and the rest of the phone seems to work fine. Wanted to ask a few questions and make a few comments.
1. Screen is the best AMOLED screen period. The lack of reflection and infinite viewing angles puts it head and shoulders above all phone IPS screens I've used. Also on a completely different level to the beta AMOLED screens Samsung was churning out. None of the pixelation, dithering, artifacts, lines, blotches, and crap from the S II or the Note. It doesn't turn to crap when I dim the screen, and looks very nice and even like that. The saturation has been toned down as well and looks better. However, I wish the greens were not so BLUE and the skin tones were less ghastly red/yellow/orange.
2. My volume keys are firm and clicky, but my power button is kind of loose. Will it deteriorate over time?
3. The battery cover is still a horrible design. My left side snaps into place completely, but there is a gap that you can put a fingernail and also feel the seam and slight hump since its not flush. This is normal for Samsung right? My Note also had a battery cover problem. It would ot snap in, and I had to jam it in at a very sharp angle and bend the cover back heavily. At least that was flush. This one is not. Also noticed looseness on the top corners with the S3, especially when you move the phone around or hold it in landscape and either push the corners a bit or hold onto them. I think this is endemic to the S3 since all the display phones at my local store had the same problem, along with the entire cover being taped up since they were coming off of course.
4. The home button is hard to press. I also noticed this on the demo models. Why couldn't it be more like the iPhone's button? The amount of force required to push it, its location at the very end of the phone, and the lightweight nature of the phone means I have to hold the phone firmly down or the entire thing just might bounce out of my hand. I usually have to hold the bottom underneath the button and pinch down with my thumb. That's not very satisfying either, since I am also pushing up into a looser part of the back cover and it flexes a bit, especially since there's that hole where the microUSB plugs into. I try to avoid using the home button and use back all the way if possible.
5. The phone is fast, but not blazingly fast or smooth. It's better than my old One X. Still far from the smoothness of a Windows Phone device. Hopefully Jelly Bean will help a lot.
6. They need to disable the capacitive keys during camera mode. I always end up pushing one or both of them and exiting the camera or getting edit popups. Same problem I had on the Note.
7. Phone looks and feels a million times better without the rim sticking out above the glass surface. It's more prone to damage, but I'll take the look and unimpeded finger swiips any day.
8. The Note had a much much better speaker. The S3 sounds like an S2 without the back cover helping muffle it.
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I've been holding off buying the S III for some time in hopes of something better, but nothing has come along so I finally bit the bullet. I bought a new white one off ebay for $450, which is on the cheaper side. It came with a rather deep scratch on the bottom right on the chrome, but frankly its hard to notice and the rest of the phone seems to work fine. Wanted to ask a few questions and make a few comments.
1. Screen is the best AMOLED screen period. The lack of reflection and infinite viewing angles puts it head and shoulders above all phone IPS screens I've used. Also on a completely different level to the beta AMOLED screens Samsung was churning out. None of the pixelation, dithering, artifacts, lines, blotches, and crap from the S II or the Note. It doesn't turn to crap when I dim the screen, and looks very nice and even like that. The saturation has been toned down as well and looks better. However, I wish the greens were not so BLUE and the skin tones were less ghastly red/yellow/orange.
2. My volume keys are firm and clicky, but my power button is kind of loose. Will it deteriorate over time?
3. The battery cover is still a horrible design. My left side snaps into place completely, but there is a gap that you can put a fingernail and also feel the seam and slight hump since its not flush. This is normal for Samsung right? My Note also had a battery cover problem. It would ot snap in, and I had to jam it in at a very sharp angle and bend the cover back heavily. At least that was flush. This one is not. Also noticed looseness on the top corners with the S3, especially when you move the phone around or hold it in landscape and either push the corners a bit or hold onto them. I think this is endemic to the S3 since all the display phones at my local store had the same problem, along with the entire cover being taped up since they were coming off of course.
4. The home button is hard to press. I also noticed this on the demo models. Why couldn't it be more like the iPhone's button? The amount of force required to push it, its location at the very end of the phone, and the lightweight nature of the phone means I have to hold the phone firmly down or the entire thing just might bounce out of my hand. I usually have to hold the bottom underneath the button and pinch down with my thumb. That's not very satisfying either, since I am also pushing up into a looser part of the back cover and it flexes a bit, especially since there's that hole where the microUSB plugs into. I try to avoid using the home button and use back all the way if possible.
5. The phone is fast, but not blazingly fast or smooth. It's better than my old One X. Still far from the smoothness of a Windows Phone device. Hopefully Jelly Bean will help a lot.
6. They need to disable the capacitive keys during camera mode. I always end up pushing one or both of them and exiting the camera or getting edit popups. Same problem I had on the Note.
7. Phone looks and feels a million times better without the rim sticking out above the glass surface. It's more prone to damage, but I'll take the look and unimpeded finger swiips any day.
8. The Note had a much much better speaker. The S3 sounds like an S2 without the back cover helping muffle it.
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1. There is a setting in display settings to adj screen tone. See if that helps.
2. Some have reported this, but mine is fine. Not loose at all.
3. The battery cover while flimsy i agree, should snap on with ease. No raised or humped section, no gap for a fingernail... almost sounds like yours took a nasty fall or other impact... it should fit just fine with no blemishes.
4. Home isnt hard to push. Agree though that it couldve been implemented much better.
5. Imho, this thing screams. Never had any problems with lag or not being smooth and speedy. Top of the line if you ask me.
8. Speakers fine for me, for what it is. I never expect the external speaker to be super high quality.
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On the screen issue, have you gone out to broad daylight and trying to see the screen? Its tough. I still prefer IPS screens.
The home button is hard to press. Being accustomed to only capacitive buttons, the home button is tough to press. Even more so with my ballistics case.
The back is plastics but it gets the job done
The power button is sturdy and fine on my end
I agree with the camera button.
I also got mine from eBay about a month ago for 469 and although it was used, it was kept and very good condition. All I have is a small line on the gray part of the phone by the volume button that only extends about 2 mm. Sometimes I forget its there. The screen is my biggest letdown. Coming from 2 LG devices, the IPS screen is the best screens in my opinion. Natural colors, awesome brightness. This one is good I enjoy it but its not great.
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Hey man.. Cool thing you got an s3 but if I was you, I would of waited til tomorrow for the nexus 4 and paid 100$ less.
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Crisisx1 said:
Hey man.. Cool thing you got an s3 but if I was you, I would of waited til tomorrow for the nexus 4 and paid 100$ less.
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I played with an Optimus G in-store, basically a Nexus 4. Did not like it AT ALL. The glass was icky. Was not impressed by the display. It was washed out looking. This is in comparison to the One X and iPhone, not just AMOLED.
IPS is better outdoors and at max brightness. However, indoors at low brightness the contrast looks way better on the AMOLED screen of the GS3.
Oh man the 5" HTC Droid DNA is coming out. If it can be unlocked for GSM networks, I'm itching the jump again...haha I had the Note two months ago too.
I'm getting buyers remorse from the build quality. Just holding or moving the phone around and taking it out of my pocket, there's always a creak or a flex from the loose back cover. The phone is kinda slippery and clammy, not much to hold on to, and the jiggly power button. I said I would never buy another Samsung phone because of build, but here I am again...a sucker for the screen!
3. My battery cover is perfectly flush. I have pulled it off to change sd cards and once when initially rooting.. I simply put it in place and smoothly press the edges while moving around the whole phone.. all click in, flush
5. check to see if Power saving mode is on, and if cpu saving is on in power saving ... if it is, chances are your phone is only hitting 1GHz
when power saving is off (via the handy toggle in the notification shade dropdown), phone is allowed to hit full 1.5 GHz
another reason for some speed loss is the samsung touchwiz environment.. beautiful, but a bit heavy
jellybean from a google/nexus base IS faster, but mainly cuz it is more bare
cheers!
Samsung Galaxy S3, 16GB, pebble blue
rooted, running jellybean 4.1.1 on touchwiz-based Xquizit xD rom