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Looking at how easy and dumb proof they made the jailbreak for iOS 4, I'm not going to lie. I wish it was that simple on the Evo. You'd think that since Android is a stronger programming community, in my opinion, that we'd have a better mouse trap.
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=10943
Thoughts on this?
The hell? It's easy enough as it is.
If in doubt go watch this
How much simpler do people need it to be ?
Move a few files to if sdcard a dew commands and boom done
sent with my evo from a secret place
Besides, if you can't figure out how to do a few command lines and drop files on the SD card, I don't think you have any business rooting, since you will likely screw something up. Most of the stuff you use root for will require some of these skills, and they are potentially more harmful if you do them wrong than when trying to gain root access. Gaining root access isn't very hard or even that dangerous. Flashing stuff and messing with low level system stuff is.
Try doing a search for simple root. That might be what you are looking for.
You will need to install USB drivers though.
locutis78 said:
Try doing a search for simple root. That might be what you are looking for.
You will need to install USB drivers though.
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+1....easy rooting...
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superlinkx said:
Besides, if you can't figure out how to do a few command lines and drop files on the SD card, I don't think you have any business rooting, since you will likely screw something up. Most of the stuff you use root for will require some of these skills, and they are potentially more harmful if you do them wrong than when trying to gain root access. Gaining root access isn't very hard or even that dangerous. Flashing stuff and messing with low level system stuff is.
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I sort of agree with this.
However, it is very intimidating for people with little knowledge. There are a lot of terms and procedures that don't make any sense to people coming into this world.
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DanBergundy said:
I sort of agree with this.
However, it is very intimidating for people with little knowledge. There are a lot of terms and procedures that don't make any sense to people coming into this world.
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Those terms and procedures are all well explained if you read enough. I did. I'm far from an expert, but I have done way more than I expected with the info I found.
Uh, remember Unrevoked? All you had to do was simply go to unrevoked.com on the browser. Root Acquired.
It might have been easy this time on the iPhone, but it really depends on the exploit. Some are trivial, some are not. If anything it shows just how unsecure the iPhone is.
Moving on...
uniquenameevo said:
Those terms and procedures are all well explained if you read enough. I did. I'm far from an expert, but I have done way more than I expected with the info I found.
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I know, but we were all noobs once. Most the guides are written by smart people but they write in a way that doesn't cater to the new/dumb people.
Noobs are told "Post in the right section" and "Use the search!".
The info on the terminology and procedures is scattered about the site and it takes a lot of confidence for a noob with no knowledge to come in here with a $500 device and start tinkering with recovery modes and command lines.
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zeuzinn said:
Uh, remember Unrevoked? All you had to do was simply go to unrevoked.com on the browser. Root Acquired.
It might have been easy this time on the iPhone, but it really depends on the exploit. Some are trivial, some are not. If anything it shows just how unsecure the iPhone is.
Moving on...
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1000% agree with parts one and two. Part three seems like some personal anger toward the iPhone.
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It's basically the same. The iPhone Dev guys just build applications that carry out the jailbreak automatically. Here, many people don't bother but simple root runs batch files that take they typing out of the equation.
Unrevoked is more like the jailbreakme.com site and you don't even need a computer!
Coming from an iPhone myself I found the switch easy. Just have to do some reading to make sure you are aware of what you're doing. Although you should be doing the same with the iPhone too.
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Landmine said:
Looking at how easy and dumb proof they made the jailbreak for iOS 4, I'm not going to lie. I wish it was that simple on the Evo. You'd think that since Android is a stronger programming community, in my opinion, that we'd have a better mouse trap.
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=10943
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That jailbreak is so easy because of the GAPING HOLE in mobile safari's security.
Are you complaining that android isn't a security joke like iOS is?
DanBergundy said:
1000% agree with parts one and two. Part three seems like some personal anger toward the iPhone.
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No personal anger towards the iPhone. You needed to download and open a file to root with unrevoked, however, with this jailbreak for the iPhone, you do not need to do ANYTHING. It is a huge security hole and while no one has written any malicious apps to take advantage of this exploit, it could be easily created by even a mid-level programmer.
So it shows how unsecure the iPhone is, it really does. No personal anger, simply stating a fact.
zeuzinn said:
Uh, remember Unrevoked? All you had to do was simply go to unrevoked.com on the browser. Root Acquired.
It might have been easy this time on the iPhone, but it really depends on the exploit. Some are trivial, some are not. If anything it shows just how unsecure the iPhone is.
Moving on...
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With the new 1.47 root recently discovered, someone could have easily made a root method program that rivals that of iPhone's.
Besides, Android community is different from iPhone's. Most users are not tech illiterate (at least currently)
Apple software is notoriously ridden with security flaws. Of course it is easy to jailbreak.
Such a strong defensive stance by most of you. I have my Evo rooted. I'm a programmer and I've been hacking away at my devices and computers for as long as I've had them. However, I'm getting lazy these days and busy. To to clear up any confusion....
1) I love my Evo more than my old iPhone
2) I know Android is a better OS for me it can do a lot more than any other mobile OS
3) Following a 30 set fool proof guide is fine, but I like 3 step's to get what I want more than 30.
4) I'm far from "complaining", more than anything this thread's purpose was to ask and gain information to improve my understanding.
5) I love you guys
I will probably get flamed for what I'm about to say. The phone I had before the evo was the samsung moment. I came into that scene just after march of this year. Sprint had just released a downloadable update that anyone could update on their own. It was a windows based updater/flasher that had drivers and the update tar inside. It was incredibly simple then to flash any rom or mod you wanted. You could go back and forth from an oem stock rom to rooted and custom roms. The flasher program walked you through everything, so practically anyone could do it.
I would guess htc is a completely different beast. I don't know if they ever released a newb friendly updater or what. For me, this process could be made much easier.
same i came from a moment which was not hard at all too root. Ive flashed rom after rom but when i went and looked at the htc evo root... well i didnt do it. so many people having problems ect . So ya i havent rooted the evo and actually im scared too.. lol i am pretty good at that stuff i just dont want to brick my evo.
That's kind of my feelings on it as well. Seems like a lot of people are feel like me asking for a 1 click root is attacking everything great about the Evo. I love my Evo. It replaced my tv in my bed room, my iPhone and my laptop. Any device that could do 1 of those is an amazing device, but all 3? Nice.
Hi, let me start by apologizing for my ignorance but ive always been in love with phones for i dont know how long and i finally have a good one specifically the evo and even though i love phones i no little about the software but i want to learn. can anyone point to the start i want to learn rooting flashing ROMs and kernels the works im not so much interested in developing but that might change once im more knowledgeable in the whole process im just some high school kid so my tech knowledge right now is pretty much zero please help i no everyone here started somewhere so can u tell me where i just want to make my phone as good as possible
Let me ask you this: What software version is on your phone right now? 2.1 or 2.2?
im running 2.2 on my evo
Take a gander at the development forum. There is a guide that was posted just a couple of days ago about rooting 2.2. Great timing for you since this method was only just discovered.
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
Welcome!
Oh..and be sure to do a search in the forums for any issues you may have before posting a question to the forums. Chances are it has already been addressed...unless you enjoy getting flamed.
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Be sure to check out the evo wiki too. It has many guides and tutorials to get you started in the right direction.
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sombdy said:
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
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That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
SilverZero said:
That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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LOL! Except we're Android people, so in the spirit of openness, I demand that you make that quote 100% free and available. (kinda like how people bash the unrevoked team about not giving away their methods...)
SilverZero said:
That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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True, but wouldn't be plausible for an OTA to be released that turned the security permissions back on and plugged the exploits for rooting? That's why I just say be cautious. UF probably will work "forever" but it's no reason to be careless. Sticking with the rooted ROMs is just a safer bet.
So if you don't want to loose root, give those Sprint OTAs the boot.
Yeah...I'm not copyrighting that. It sucks! lol!
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thanks for all ur help i love this site so full of smart helpful people
Is there some type of service where you can bring your phone in and they upgrade your Verizon GNex to 4.1? I live in the south Tampa Bay area. I am tired of being a pawn for Verizon to play with. Thanks. Having a nexus device has not been what I thought it would be.
Just learn how to root and upgrade it yourself, that's 95% of the purpose of this phone IMO.
Thanks....But
I Am Marino said:
Just learn how to root and upgrade it yourself, that's 95% of the purpose of this phone IMO.
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I understand that is possible to do it. I would rather have someone walk me through it in front of me. People pay me for my expertise and I respect other people for theirs.
There's no service and 4.1 won't officially be ready for vzw gnex for months. There's plenty of well thought out and put together walkthroughs - even one click methods. Droid-life's guide is extremely easy to follow, as are several threads here. I'd recommend using a manual method though so you better understand what rooting and unlocking are actually doing.
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If you really aren't comfortable doing so...
My guide is a great start.
If you read through that and are still confused...
I can TeamView to your computer and get it done for you while you watch.
It'd have to be late at night..
I get off at 1:30 mountain standard.
Or the weekend at any time.
http://www.teamviewer.com/
Send me a PM if you like to do that.
You'd be better off OP finding someone on here to teamview you like it was suggested and getting you there that way if you want JB.
There is no service, as someone else also said, just people on CL who might offer to do it for you, but yet again, they might be amateur at best and charge you unnecessary amounts of money.
I assure you I know what I'm doing.
And I've TeamViewed numerous people to help them root or "unbrick" their phones.
No charge...and I help you learn along the way.
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And we'll back up your applications and such along the way so you lose as little as possible.
Jubakuba, Where do I get your guide?
Jubakuba, I have a mac at home, does that matter?
nixrob9 said:
Jubakuba, I have a mac at home, does that matter?
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Guide is the exact same. Just use Terminal instead of Command Line and type "./" in front of all of the commands. For example:
Code:
./adb devices
still confused
Jubakuba said:
If you really aren't comfortable doing so...
My guide is a great start.
If you read through that and are still confused...
I can TeamView to your computer and get it done for you while you watch.
It'd have to be late at night..
I get off at 1:30 mountain standard.
Or the weekend at any time.
http://www.teamviewer.com/
Send me a PM if you like to do that.
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I have read a TON of articles and none of them are written in a way i can truly understand what i am doing. I have a mac and want SIMPLE, STEP by STEP instructions. I cannot find it. In all examples there are assumptions the reader knows what they are talking about and lack of clarification on how the mac instructions are different from windows. If so many people can do it, why can't someone just layout the steps for doing it. The reason most people wait for the OTA is because it is not a straightforward process.
nixrob9 said:
Is there some type of service where you can bring your phone in and they upgrade your Verizon GNex to 4.1? I live in the south Tampa Bay area. I am tired of being a pawn for Verizon to play with. Thanks. Having a nexus device has not been what I thought it would be.
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Bro, nexii are easiest hassle free device to root.
Then again I don't argue with my friends giving me money. ^_^
They bring in there androids to me for upgrading and rooting.
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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^
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I have read a TON of articles and none of them are written in a way i can truly understand what i am doing. I have a mac and want SIMPLE, STEP by STEP instructions. I cannot find it. In all examples there are assumptions the reader knows what they are talking about and lack of clarification on how the mac instructions are different from windows. If so many people can do it, why can't someone just layout the steps for doing it. The reason most people wait for the OTA is because it is not a straightforward process.
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a)
The FEAR is making you weary. Don't be afraid to get your feet wet.
b)
As they've said...
./ before all commands = working for mac.
Again, I could TeamView you.
But I get the feeling you wouldn't be the type to learn anything...
Probably walk away and make yourself a cup of coffee while I work.
Jubakuba said:
I assure you I know what I'm doing.
And I've TeamViewed numerous people to help them root or "unbrick" their phones.
No charge...and I help you learn along the way.
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And we'll back up your applications and such along the way so you lose as little as possible.
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I apologize for butting in but wow, that is extremely nice of you.
I'm sure everyone here is trying to help you, but everything cannot be handed on a silver platter. It will take some work and leaving but the nexus is the easiest to root/customize. Like I said, droid-life is probably the easiest guide to follow, as straight forward as it gets. There's a reason there's no official service for what you want to do.
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Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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tiny4579 said:
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
Wallex said:
No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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Well, most people consider root a power, and with great power..... Anyways,this is a developer forum, aimed at developers. I don't have a problem teachinganyone anything (within the realm of my knowledge, of course), but I do have aproblem with those who want their hand held, and refuse to look on their own. Ican pretty much guarantee you, that if you don't learn anything, and wanteverything spelled out, that's all fine and dandy, till you have an issue. Orsomething else doesn't work right, and then you constantly ask questions on howto fix your phone when a little research and a little learning will preventmost of these issues in the first place.
kyphur said:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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/end rant.
Sorry about that. You're easiest bet is to use htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader, then flash a recovery through your now unlocked HBOOT, then flash aSuperuser.zip to gain root.
if you knew someone who could root it for you, that would be easiest. maybe you could pay someone to root your phone? you know what we say, only smart people now how to get stuff for free or cheap. and in the realm of 'hacking" what we are definitely doing is value adding to what we have.
but if you learn how to do it, you could be that person helping others!
btw, funny thing about that link-that is the one I used. i found it a little intimidating at first(and looked extensively for an easier way that I never found) but now that I;ve rooted 3 phones, its fairly accurate. unfortunately you do have to go through the steps. there aren;t any shortcuts but it works. and the good thing is that if anything actually goes wrong in the process, atleast you should know where and why and how to fix.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
insomniac_lemon said:
You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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FWIW, there was a version of Unrevoked that worked with certain versions of the Dinc's software (that's how I originally rooted my first Dinc), but recent OTA upgrades have made that method very unreliable. If you have HBOOT 1.07, there is no question that the best way to get root is using the guide, and yes, that guide the OP linked is a very good one. Follow it carefully and it will work, every time. You can even stop at step 3 and have a stock, rooted, s-on phone, without the complicated downgrade which is required to get s-off. Which is what the OP wanted, I believe.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
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LOL @ legible ENGLISH :good: Sometimes I feel the same way.
P.S. Broke out my old HTC INCRED 2. Think I may try rooting it. Got nothing to loose.
Keep the threads alive; -)
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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I assume that you have the fastboot files for the htc one x .
If not then please search on xda
Make sure u backup all your important data,contacts,etc
Step 1. Register on htcdev.com
Step 2. Unlocking the bootloader
Enable usb debugging on your phone
Power off your hox
Hold power button and volume down to get into bootloader
Select fastboot
Connect hox to ur pc using usb cable
Open command prompt
Go to your fastboot folder ex. cd c:\fastboot
type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" without quotes
Copy the token code.. check on htcdev site for copying that token code
Submit your token code
Wait for an email from htc
After you get, download the Unlock_code.bin file from the email u received
Copy it to ur fastboot folder
In command prompt type "fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin" without quotes
On your hox u will be prompted with "Unlock bootloader?"
Choose yes using volume buttons and then press power button
This unlocks your bootloader.
Sry gtg, will post on how to root, after sometime..
Till then unlock your bootloader.
Is the phone branded? Is the phone evita or endeavoru? Check the bootloader
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There are lots of youtube video of the process.
It's really easy, if you follow them there is nothing dangerous that might happen.
Check this tool, it may make your life easier.
Good luck
Check the post by Hasoon in the stickies. Truly foolproof
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Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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One thing to make absolutely clear is that there is absolutely never, ever an exact foolproof method. The rooting process is as simple as it can be made and yet many fools somehow manage to screw their devices.
You are looking for a guarantee, a process that is "undeniably going to work". You are NOT going to get one.
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Craiglivesey94 said:
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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You better be sure don't just assumed. Listen for Stefan0vic check your bootloader(hboot).
Craiglivesey94 said:
I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
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Because I'm not gonna spams if I'd do it correctly without problems. You better don't want to go through any exact noob proof methods believe me, else you'll most likely ended up with some bogus mistake/error accompany by panic and shout help me xda-ers...
Craiglivesey94 said:
... should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
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Since we're using official bootloader unlocked process not s-off, we're actually immuned to hard bricking our phone. Unharmful soft bricking happening sometimes, however 99% of human mistake or boot image did't flash properly. Assumed that you're not going to flashes any custom ROM thus you will most unlikely to face bootloop btw.
Craiglivesey94 said:
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
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Trickier parts. First let me explained how official OTA updates apply, it checks and verifying on many aspects to ensure integrity of the ROM. If you removed system apps, themed on it, altered framework files, you will fail to complete OTA update. Even you don't do somethings like I said, you will still lost root access after successfully apply though simple re-rooting resolve the problem.
To play safe, make sure you find a RUU for your phone (according to your phone's CID; edeavoru/evita does matter) with greater or same version number as your current. Else you might wanna to make yourself one immediately you unlokced your phone or look in the [Stock Nandroid Backups for Different CIDs] thread on this sub-forum. The reason to do that is so you can always fallback to original ROM state for an official OTA.
If the guides on this forum are not clear enough for you then you should not be attempting to do anything with your phone. There are a multitude of threads on here and 99% of them are aimed at the beginner and are as simple as they can be. If you cannot follow them then you haven't read enough. Please remember this is a Forum for developers and everyone else, including myself, is a guest here. No one is under any obligation to explain anything or provide guides of any kind, they do it because they want to. You are basically making a post directed at the people who have provided guides out of the goodness of their hearts and telling them that those guides are useless. That's not a very nice thing to do. And yes, this is another unnecessary thread
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I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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Thanks for response, I was worried I wouldn't be getting the 4.2.2 update whenever it arrives.
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Nice! I will refer my friends to this every time I get the "what is rooting" question.
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Craiglivesey94 said:
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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It is clear and it is foolproof. I'm no expert and I used the guides to which you are referring. The problem, which you don't seem to be able to understand, is that the people who are having problems have not read and understood everything before they proceed. And you have implied that the guides are no good, again. It is not mis-information, it is impatience. Read, read and read again, use the search button and read once more. Everything you ask has been answered over and over again and everyone is fed up of seeing the same questions multiple times a day. Have a look in almost any rom thread and you will see that devs and team members are repeating themselves constantly simply because people can't or won't use the search button and fail to read previous posts.
Pause a little and think how the author of a help post must feel when they read that their guide is being reported as incomplete or incorrect after spending countless hours making sure the information is correct.
Rest assured that all guides are correct and accurate, if they weren't they would only be devs on here and no users.
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I'm not sure how use words like 'incomplete' or 'incorrect' when I have used neither to describe the developers guides.
For the third time, I said miss understanding and miss information on behalf of the users who are attempting the guides. Not at all did I say or imply that the developers guides are useless. Now, I fully understand the point you're making about this being annoying, I just failed to understand how annoying this actually is on a large scale. I'm new to forums like this and it's obvious now that repetitive posts become annoying after many people have already discuss them, to which I apologise for.
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