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[Q] 2.5ghz Overclock? YES PLEASE!

I bet everyone has heard of the droid 2 and X being overclocked to crazy speeds right? Well... how come the Incredible hasn't reached those speeds?!?! Im sure some awesome dev could probably achieve this! There are many Inc owners who would like... scratch that... LOVE this speed increase, and im sure they wouldn't mind donating to the truly amazing dev who does this. Now the question is... whose willing to do it?
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The problem is that our phones can't handle those speeds mine cant handle anything over 1.113
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Gahh Its Lee said:
The problem is that our phones can't handle those speeds mine cant handle anything over 1.113
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That doesn't mean we can't try! Lol
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You could probably achieve this. Except you'd be buying another phone after your incredible spontaneously combusts from this kind of overclocking. Motorola phones use a different line of processors, OMAP from Texas Instruments rather than the Snapdragons.

then why with D2 or X's is that possible?

Because the Droid 2 and X use completely different processors made by completely different companies. We have a Qualcomm Snapdragon they have Texas Instruments OMAP.

No, see. Those speeds are fake. There's no way a mobile processor with today's technology could handle speeds of 2GHz or higher. 1.6Ghz is the highest I've seen on the X/2, and it wasn't very stable. That's why these "overclock apps" for the Droid X/2 only have options for 1.4GHz max.

Fake... plain and simple... you can't even overclock a PC processor 1.5ghz above its stock speed without some serious cooling. You really believe that a phone, with no fan/water/cooling of any kind can do it?

I am not a dev but my first degree was in engineering 20years ago. So when I say that its extremely unlikely that any of the massive OC stories are true I am talking from knowledge of engineering processes. 30-40% OC seems to be in the realm of reality. Beyond that, you enter the land of the bovine excrement.
First of all, as an engineer you simply do not design these chips with that much OC'ing being possible. Up to 40% OC seems possible - I would actually predict that some time in the near future we will be able to run the chips in the inc at 1.3 - stable. Expecting anything more is silly. If it was possible to run them at those speeds, guess what, they would have released them as 1.5 or 2 GHz chips.
Secondly, even if you were to temporarily be able to run them at substantially higher frequencies than what we can see them get to right now, they would be extremely unstable and would run hot very quickly. Thats too big a risk to take. In the best case scenario, you will just have a bricked device - replacing which will cost you $500-600. In the worst case, you will burn your hand and/or your face.
I would recommend that the OP volunteers his money, device(s), body and brains towards finding just how far we can OC an incredible. In the meantime I am happy to sit on the sidelines and implement solutions which are more logical and less quixotic.

wow LOL sounds cool to me just wondering, thank you!

IMO, Over clocking is over rated. You end up with reboots, crashes, and an unreliable phone.
I see a lot of people more concerned with quadrant scores than good battery life. Some of them expect both. I for one think the incredible is fast enough already, especially coming from a storm 1.
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To be honest i do notice a little bit of a speedup when I had mine overclocked to 1.15. But of course less battery life is a trade off with that. I am running the newest HTC stock kernel, no OC, and am very happy with battery life and speed. The phone would absolutely FLY with an OC of 1.5ghz or higher. But as someone said, if it was made to do that, they would have just put a 1.5ghz chip in there to begin with.

Evo overclocking questions, hopeing for some Dev input!

Hey all, I want to get some info on the limitations of our processor, mainly is their a ceiling on how high we can overclock our Evo's?
I am sure most of us here are familiar with the insanely fast 1.3ghz-1.8ghz(I think the top I read was 1.8ghz) speeds some newer phones are getting clocked to, the only thing that caught my eye about these speeds is that they are reported stable & usable. Coming from a Hero(a while ago) that I had to overclock to my Evo that is not really necessary to overclock was nice, BUT it would be awesome to have an Evo clocked at 1.5ghz-1.8ghz and stable as well as usable, is this even remotely doable? If not what is causing the limitation? Just curious
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It all depends on your phone....what may run on yours may send mine into random reboot...I found mine is stable at 1.13
You may want to raise the bar a little at a time to see what you can handle....be sure not to have it set on boot till you are sure your phone can handle it....
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matthewjulian said:
Hey all, I want to get some info on the limitations of our processor, mainly is their a ceiling on how high we can overclock our Evo's?
I am sure most of us here are familiar with the insanely fast 1.3ghz-1.8ghz(I think the top I read was 1.8ghz) speeds some newer phones are getting clocked to, the only thing that caught my eye about these speeds is that they are reported stable & usable. Coming from a Hero(a while ago) that I had to overclock to my Evo that is not really necessary to overclock was nice, BUT it would be awesome to have an Evo clocked at 1.5ghz-1.8ghz and stable as well as usable, is this even remotely doable? If not what is causing the limitation? Just curious
Edit: HAPPY THANKSGIVING, I am very thankful for my wife & kids as well as all you great guys and gals here at XDA!
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not exactly sure how it works on the phones but if its anything like a pc processor then it would take a kernel that can tweek voltages right like to get a 1.8 on our ever i would say it would need about a 3 step down uv but not sure if it would be stable heck at 3 step down uv it shouldn't boot unless its set oc'd on splash boot I'm pretty sure since our proc. are first gen snapdragons and the one's in the G2 and myTouch 4G are second with a smaller die ours won't be able to make it that far up with out major modification

Hmmm......so if I were to get off my ass and learn to compile a kernel I could at least attempt it, good info, thanks! At least now I have a place to start researching, I think I would be happy with a bump to an even 1.5ghz if it were stable, well if anyone else has more info I'm all ears!
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I got mine at 1.15 anything past that seems unstable 1.2/1.25 reboots automatically (cm7 nightly 88)

The FroYo kernels come unlocked to 1190 I believe. When I was running FroYo I ran 1152 all the time. You don't really need to compile your own kernel unless you really want to. All of the kernels available here are unlocked except for the stock kernels. Also 1190 was about the limit for most EVOs.

I don't have an evo, but I do have a snapdragon, use quadrant to check scores after an overclock. 1190 isn't so good. Makes lower scores than the stock 1ghz. Fsb bottlenecks at that speed, but gets a boost at 1530. I've had my snapdragon around 1600 stable all day. Low battery life though.
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G2 gets 3000 on Quadrant?!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839687
How can we get a kernel to compare to this?! Holy hell!

thats in-freaking-sane that thing isn't made to run those speeds can't wait for the first my G2 caught fire stories because of this i mean come on 1.9 ghz and no real cooling basically means i'm cooking my processor

Brutus2TheMax said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839687
How can we get a kernel to compare to this?! Holy hell!
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I got 2800 on my EVO using CM6.1 RC1 with snap7.6 turbo kernel and thats running at 1.2 GHz. There is a new Snap kernel coming out too (Snap9). Quadrant should be close to or at 3000 with that new kernel.

1.9GHz is soooooooooo fast holy titties

how in the world do you overclock a cpu 225%?

clock speed means nothing, its just a number.
my x2 athlon at 3.2ghz wont compare to a current 2ghz, im happy for them they were able to clock it that high but benchmarks will show real world results
I couldnt be happier with my evo regardless of what others can do with their phones

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1.9GHz is soooooooooo fast holy titties
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I was informed at the store that the G2 is a next generation Snapdragon than what the EVO has and thus can be mad overclocked. However to achieve those speeds I promise they aren't running stock voltages. And yeah, they are close to cooking that baby.
Amazing that Amazon had the G2 for FREE with new service the other day.
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It is easy to FaKE the scores lol!!!! Anyways it just a number and really dont mean much. I yet to really see a video of these number being legitament!!!

Fly like a G2

Holy BALLS. They OC'd that thing a whole 1.1Ghz... That's insane. I would NOT want to push that processor that hard though. That's reducing the life of the phone by a very significant amount, especially considering how these phones have such crap heat dissipation.

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how in the world do you overclock a cpu 225%?
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How, because the G2 is already underclocked down from 1.2GHz for battery saving reasons. Really only a 50% increase, which is still substantial as the EVO only overclocks 20%. You can't actually run it that high though, you can run it at around 1.45GHz, so its back at that 20%.
Also, my friend's HD2 hits 3500 in quadrant on the DesireHD rom. It hits 2000 underclocked at 500 MHz. He is running android off a class 6 card, but thats still some crazy scores. So our phones can hit that too if someone much smarter than me has some free time.

How fast can the desire go ???

The hd2 can go up to 1.5ghz I know so why can't the desire, you may ask 'why does it need to get faster its fast anyway ' well that's because I want to see how far it can go. ages ago our kernels were going up to 1.3ghz and surprisingly it was stable for me. Any answers
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DHD has a different processor

What? He is not even mentioning Desire HD, only HD2, which has an identical chip.

My fault, swear it said DHD!

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My fault, swear it said DHD!
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lol shouldve went to specsavers

Lol yeah , but seriously any idea
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No cpu is the same, even if its the same model, one person may be able to oc theres to 1.5 ghz. where as another may be only able to oc theres to 1.1 ghz. someone on another forum oc'd there droid x to 2.5ghz lol
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AndroHero said:
No cpu is the same, even if its the same model, one person may be able to oc theres to 1.5 ghz. where as another may be only able to oc theres to 1.1 ghz. someone on another forum oc'd there droid x to 2.5ghz lol
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This is very true not only that there is the stresses that your ROM and apps are taking on the CPU some will be OC'd to be extremely fast but never actually use that amount of CPU speed so will always be stable however some users will take theirs to the limit and will only remain stable at much less CPU speed.
It's pretty much the same with all processors but who really wants to fry their processor just checking how fast they can make it run. If 1.3Ghz is stable for you then that's all good bump it up yourself once your cpu burns out you know it can't go that fast

warlordxxx said:
This is very true not only that there is the stresses that your ROM and apps are taking on the CPU some will be OC'd to be extremely fast but never actually use that amount of CPU speed so will always be stable however some users will take theirs to the limit and will only remain stable at much less CPU speed.
It's pretty much the same with all processors but who really wants to fry their processor just checking how fast they can make it run. If 1.3Ghz is stable for you then that's all good bump it up yourself once your cpu burns out you know it can't go that fast
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+1 and if the op really wants to try it, why not throw a donation at a dev, get him to compile you a kernel that can be oc'd that much
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998Mhz does me just fine on my Desire. I used to run 1.51Ghz on my DHD but all I got from it was an awesome Quadrant score and a piss poor battery life. For day to day use I really don't notice the difference from 998Mhz to 1190Mhz with a HAVS/BFS kernel on my Desire.

my amoled went up to 1300 and my wife slcd wont go over 1030(i menan it will but any stronger activity will crash it)

2.5ghz overclocked with a droid x?
how good was the battery life on that?

I think 998 MHZ is enough for my Desire. 1.5 GHZ is nothing to me.

ics overclocked!

this is just for those who wish to see a bit more snappyness in your ics....
First i have no idea if this will work on all roms, but im using the PHANTOM rom ( 4.0.4 ) and using the tergat paid version.. im using the kernal that came cooked into the rom....
i just loaded the overclock module, and set it to 1.54Ghz.. i did not change the voltages at all..
doing this i saw an increase in about +200 points testing with antutu benchmark...
im advance i apologize for wasting fourm space but just figured since i havent seen anything on overclocking ics yet, id just show how i did it..
just something to tinker with..

There are threads and this has been discussed before. Thanks for trying though.
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of course.... always a thread mixed within the 1000s out there.
one thing i noticed is on the antutu it shows where people have post thier results... how on earth are some of them overclocking to 1.9ghz and 1.75hz.. scoring soooooo high?! for example im at 1.452ghz scoring say 7200-7300 and some are at 1.452 scoring 12000-15000... seems kinda high to me...
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chris-allen said:
of course.... always a thread mixed within the 1000s out there.
one thing i noticed is on the antutu it shows where people have post thier results... how on earth are some of them overclocking to 1.9ghz and 1.75hz.. scoring soooooo high?! for example im at 1.452ghz scoring say 7200-7300 and some are at 1.452 scoring 12000-15000... seems kinda high to me...
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Lets just say they are ways to cheat the benchmark test. I never did and not sure exactly how to but I know I have seen people talking about it.

ace0603 said:
Lets just say they are ways to cheat the benchmark test. I never did and not sure exactly how to but I know I have seen people talking about it.
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I've never understood why someone would want to fake a already meaningless benchmark number. It screams I'm over compensating
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i agree..i was just wanting to overclock. little to sed if it would make some of the ics Roms any snappier.. Alot of Ics is being released on quad core phones and phones with slightly snapier processors.. but i thought taking my 1.2ghz to say 1.4ghZ would polish the speeds of ics on my phone.. well and it does!! just gotta use tegrak..
seems like 1.452 is the best.. im not good on messing with voltages so i stay away from too much change. seems lime @ 1.4 i get a 200-400 point increase, but at 1.6ghz it seems to decrease 200-250points and 1.7ghz locks up 1/2 way through the benchmark..
got me.. i just like tinkering around with it... i tried it on calkulins El29 rom and holy **** it screams!!!

chris-allen said:
i agree..i was just wanting to overclock. little to sed if it would make some of the ics Roms any snappier.. Alot of Ics is being released on quad core phones and phones with slightly snapier processors.. but i thought taking my 1.2ghz to say 1.4ghZ would polish the speeds of ics on my phone.. well and it does!! just gotta use tegrak..
seems like 1.452 is the best.. im not good on messing with voltages so i stay away from too much change. seems lime @ 1.4 i get a 200-400 point increase, but at 1.6ghz it seems to decrease 200-250points and 1.7ghz locks up 1/2 way through the benchmark..
got me.. i just like tinkering around with it... i tried it on calkulins El29 rom and holy **** it screams!!!
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Keep in mind that most of the newer phones being released in the US are still dual core. I believe the reason for this is for the LTE support. And even single core phones can run ICS without much of a hickup so I wouldnt worry too much about overclocking just to gain some performance in ICS. The devs are working hard to tune it up. Just follow Phantoms thread. And I am sure once we get the official release and/or source drops we will see even greater performance tweaks done to ICS for our phone. Its just a time game....