[Q] HBOOT Questions: Back to sense from cyanogenmod - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've done a bunch of googling and can't seem to get a straight answer so I thought I'd just ask. I apologize for the noobishness of this question and thank every kind soul in advance for your help on this form in general and this question in particular.
To install cyanogenmod I had to install an older hboot (.76.2000 (pc361)). I did so and things are okay but I really need to wireless tether with 4G these days. So I want to go back to stock. When I try to restore my nandroid backup i get an error restoring the boot image. From what I've found this is due to the hboot version I'm using.
So my question is this: can I simply update the hboot to something newer? Would that remove my ability to run an nandroid recovery? Would I be better just doing a RUU recovery from scratch (or is that even possible)? Essentially, what is the fastest and safest way to get back to a stock image?
Thanks again for your help with this.

So I grabbed the latest RUU and thought I'd give that a shot. It won't work though as it won't see the phone...even though Windows is seeing the phone in device manager. I'm guessing this has to do with SENSE not being on there.
Can one extract the files from the RUU installer and just apply them via the clockwork recovery?

Sorry no one responded sooner you can just use the warm 2. 2 Rom its very good has 4g and Sprint hotspot is hacked automatically and its got a custom version of sense give it a go put it on the root of SD and flash through recovery no need for stock you'll see its enjoyable
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Also if necessary you can find an app for WiFi tether by googling WiFi tether apk
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hackulous said:
Also if necessary you can find an app for WiFi tether by googling WiFi tether apk
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You are both a scholar and a gentleman. I thank you for your help!

hackulous said:
Sorry no one responded sooner you can just use the warm 2. 2 Rom its very good has 4g and Sprint hotspot is hacked automatically and its got a custom version of sense give it a go put it on the root of SD and flash through recovery no need for stock you'll see its enjoyable
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From what I heard, the sprint hotspot app only tethers on 3G. Any truth to this?

I battled with the exact same issue. Search my posts for my thoughts and findings in this.
Briefly though, I can say I that you are on the money and I too didn't know how to get past this hboot issue, but I found a way around the issue.
from the beginning, To flash Cm6 you must flash to an older hboot, don't remember the version.
To perform a nandroid restore to your stock sense Rom backup you already made, that is now not working,you have to go back to that hboot you had before you went to the older on to get Cm6 to flash.
Here's how I did it with a little bonus info.
You can now ever make a nandroid backup of Cm6, incase you might want to go back to Cm6.
Use the 3.29. Ruu to get away from cm6 and put that hboot you need to run that nandroid restore to the sense Rom backup you made. This will make you completely stock.
Then you can use unrevoked to root again.
Now you can edo your nandroid restore to your backups that wouldn't work because our hboot is good to go now.
Also, good thing to know is that you can nandroid restore back to your Cm6 backup, if you made one, because its the flashing that requires that other hboot, not a nandroid backup.
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This is good info on how to go back to stock. If I weren't so damn busy with work and such I'd even think it should be a wiki article. The world of ROMs and ROOT is a fun place to play and opens up a lot of doors, but for a n00b you can feel kind of stuck. I thin it's because each phone/mfg tends to have their own quirks and so you can read general info but there are always these little variances which make me utterly afraid of bricking a $200 device....
I went with the Warm Two Point Two and, wow, it's slick. It gives me the 4G i needed and works quite well. It does also appear to tether over 4G as well. I'm very happy. But, again, it's good to have the steps outlined to go back to stock because I'm sure I won't be the last person to want to know how to do this.
Thanks again for all your help!

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Noob problems. Thanks for any help

Few thing's
1) I can't find kernel for the froyo rom on evo. And after that which apps are good for overclock on evo.
2) is there an app that will not only back up apps but the settings within the apps so flashing different roms would be easier.
3) is it safer to reboot into recovery by actually doing it or are the rom managers capable without harming the system
Thanks.
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This is epic forum not evo. I moved the thread to evo general.
Thanks. I appreciate it. Told u I was a noob
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1. I think Cyanogen Snap is a Froyo kernel, but I also know it should be easy to find them on the first page of the Development forum if they're here. They'll start with [KERNEL] in the thread title. You didn't mean ROM, did you?
2. ClockworkMod Recovery or Amon Ra will back up everything as a system image, but Titanium Backup will back everything up more modularly AND allow you to restore things into different ROMs. This means you can flash, say, Fresh 1.0.1 and then restore your accounts, apps, app data, even scenes. Just know that it may be safer to only restore what you need, piece by piece as much as possible, rather than restoring everything all at once, unless you're using a Sense ROM. I didn't have any trouble when I restored everything, but I've seen some people say it's safer to be conservative.
3. I don't think it matters, but I always do my flashing work from the recovery boot, not while booted into Android. It's the same reason I turn off the engine in my car before I try working on it. I could probably do some stuff safely, but it's easier to just reboot into recovery.

Just rooted and flashed myns Rom but I like stock

I rooted my Evo yesterday and flashed myns rom. I like the stock Rom that my phone came with and I would like to return to it. I would like to improve battery life as much as I can but with the stock Rom. So my questions are, Where can I download the stock Rom? I have hw 004 and it came with 3.30.651.3 second question is, what could I do to the stock Rom to improve battery life?
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Sprint Lovers is a very close to stock rom, your best bet probally lies there. After that, you can try running a few apps like SetCPU and Juice Defender. You do have to pay for SetCPU from the marketplace though, so it may not be your first choice.
A task watcher or killer also helps, I tend to lean towards Watchdog over something like Advanced Task Killer. You can also try AutoKiller Memory Optimizer, but if you don't know what you're doing, I'd suggest leaving it on the standard settings.
Is the stock available for download? Let's just say incase of warranty purposes and I had to unroot
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You should ALWAYS nandroid backup your current phone image before flashing any ROMs. If you would have, you'd be able to easily revert to the stock.
It is available somewhere, but not sure where for 004/3.30.
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You should ALWAYS nandroid backup your current phone image before flashing any ROMs. If you would have, you'd be able to easily revert to the stock.
It is available somewhere, but not sure where for 004/3.30.
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I did nandroid backup it was part of the instructions I followed to flash a rom. I didn't know that nandroid backup was for that. Thank you.
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Watch out, doing that nandroid recovery doesn't get you back to the stock rom for Sprint warrenties.
What you want is How to Unroot the EVO in 2 steps. After that you can take it back to Sprint with no worries whatsoever.
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Watch out, doing that nandroid recovery doesn't get you back to the stock rom for Sprint warrenties.
What you want is How to Unroot the EVO in 2 steps. After that you can take it back to Sprint with no worries whatsoever.
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So what is I want a stock rom with some of the sprint stuff removed, is there a way to remove the sprint stuff manually?
Nandroid recovery then unroot for warranty purposes correct? I want to stay rooted so I just did Nandroid recovery...I'm all good for now. Just wanted stock Rom
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ahfu25 said:
I rooted my Evo yesterday and flashed myns rom. I like the stock Rom that my phone came with and I would like to return to it. I would like to improve battery life as much as I can but with the stock Rom. So my questions are, Where can I download the stock Rom? I have hw 004 and it came with 3.30.651.3 second question is, what could I do to the stock Rom to improve battery life?
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In these forums are rooted odex/deodex versions of 3.30.xxx.x. Choose your flavor. Improving battery life is subjective at best and the answer comes from you trying anything and everything. People can tell you what works for them but you should take it with a grain of salt, try it, and expect the worst.
Personally, I improved battery life with one simple solution...extended battery. I have tried many roms for the evo and have settled on a rom I built myself. It's funny because I flashed kernels and roms trying to find the best for me and I ended up making my own and using the stock kernel (I have also extended the stock kernel but that's a different animal).
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Is the stock available for download? Let's just say incase of warranty purposes and I had to unroot
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Yes. If you put in the effort you can find anything and everything you need in these forums. If you're good with google you can venture further. I'm not trying to be a **** but I am trying to let you know everything and anything you need is easily found somehwere in this wonderland of a forum.
KeithGS said:
So what is I want a stock rom with some of the sprint stuff removed, is there a way to remove the sprint stuff manually?
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If you are rooted get titanium backup and uninstall whatever you want including sprint apps.
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Nandroid recovery then unroot for warranty purposes correct? I want to stay rooted so I just did Nandroid recovery...I'm all good for now. Just wanted stock Rom
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Again for me I settled on a stock rom I built. I still uninstalled all the sprint stuff and I found that uninstalling every single sense related gibberish helped improve my evo overall (battery, speed, responsiveness, memory space). My info/personal experience is also subjective but you can take it, try it, and if it doesn't work for you nandroid restore is your friend and lifesaver.
Good luck.
Thank you very much. I don't thing your being a ****, I Google a lot of what I asked I just can be a bit ocd and wanted to get info from a forum I trust. Its been a while since I did any flashing but I pick things up pretty fast. I'm gonna try sprint lovers next since its close to stock and experiment with others until I find what fits me best. Again thanks for your input.
lovethyEVO said:
In these forums are rooted odex/deodex versions of 3.30.xxx.x. Choose your flavor. Improving battery life is subjective at best and the answer comes from you trying anything and everything. People can tell you what works for them but you should take it with a grain of salt, try it, and expect the worst.
Personally, I improved battery life with one simple solution...extended battery. I have tried many roms for the evo and have settled on a rom I built myself. It's funny because I flashed kernels and roms trying to find the best for me and I ended up making my own and using the stock kernel (I have also extended the stock kernel but that's a different animal).
Yes. If you put in the effort you can find anything and everything you need in these forums. If you're good with google you can venture further. I'm not trying to be a **** but I am trying to let you know everything and anything you need is easily found somehwere in this wonderland of a forum.
If you are rooted get titanium backup and uninstall whatever you want including sprint apps.
Again for me I settled on a stock rom I built. I still uninstalled all the sprint stuff and I found that uninstalling every single sense related gibberish helped improve my evo overall (battery, speed, responsiveness, memory space). My info/personal experience is also subjective but you can take it, try it, and if it doesn't work for you nandroid restore is your friend and lifesaver.
Good luck.
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wondering..
is the unrevoked hboot drivers this?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.p...driver_install
also where is the SDK link?

Nandroid Question

Hello everyone, this is my official greeting to start since I am very new to all this rooting and flashing roms business but I am learning (hopefully not the hard way) But I rooted my phone with Unrevoked3 and then I flashed CM7. When they said create a backup, I used TI but did not back up my phone in the recovery screen. I wanted to reflash Sense so I could fix my GPS glitch. But I can not find it. Did I lose all the stock Sense rom that came on my Evo? And if I did, Is there a way to fix it?
I'm sure I'm not the first person to do this but I haven't found a thread to answer my question. All help will be appreciated!! Thank you!
Yes you lost your stock ROM but you can just download a sense ROM and flash that you can also find a stock rooted ROM on this site if you want that
To make a nandroid back up you can either use rom manager app from the market and do it that way or make one from recovery you should have cwm recovery so you might want to use rom manager for now its easy and you can name the backup.
Hope that helps you.
And tb only backs up your apps and data not your system.
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When they said create a backup, I used TI but did not back up my phone in the recovery screen.
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Yea, Titanium is ONLY for apps. EVERY rooting and flashign guide tells you to create a NANDROID backup in recovery.
I wanted to reflash Sense so I could fix my GPS glitch. But I can not find it.
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That's because you didn't back it up.
Did I lose all the stock Sense rom that came on my Evo?
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Yes.
And if I did, Is there a way to fix it?
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Yes, you can flash a stock rooted rom. They can be found in many of the stickies here. It will flash just like you flashed cm7, except obviously you will be back to factory, i.e. no apps, etc. But BE SURE TO NANDROID BACKUP YOUR CM7 ROM BEFORE DOING THIS.
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Hello everyone, this is my official greeting to start since I am very new to all this rooting and flashing roms business but I am learning (hopefully not the hard way)
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Welcome aboard.
But I rooted my phone with Unrevoked3 and then I flashed CM7.
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Good method of rooting and a good choice of rom to use.
When they said create a backup, I used TI but did not back up my phone in the recovery screen.
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We all eventually learned the importance of a nandroid backup, my friend.
I wanted to reflash Sense so I could fix my GPS glitch. But I can not find it. Did I lose all the stock Sense rom that came on my Evo? And if I did, Is there a way to fix it?
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Yes, you lost your original rom and no,you cannot get it back, however, you can flash an official HTC rom for the EVO. You can download a rooted stock rom from HERE. I suggest the ODEXED version. After you've flashed the rom, go into recovery and make a nandroid backup of it.
I'm sure I'm not the first person to do this but I haven't found a thread to answer my question. All help will be appreciated!! Thank you!
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Believe me, you are not the first and wont be the last either.
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Thanks everyone!! I downloaded Speedy's (Misfit's) Sense Rom. I did this time create a NAND of my CM7. Flashed the Sense rom and fixed my GPS glitch that Evo has with CM7 and Im back to normal. Works great! Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and help!
the latest CM7 versions should have fixed the GPS issues..
even with the fix in Sense... and with the latest CM7 version.. I myself still get a few issues here and there with GPS and the applications that use it.
i found it best to download GPS Status from the market which will help in getting the GPS to work... and even with that, sometimes i have to even toggle the GPS off and on to get it all working.
remember.. TI is only for apps.. you make sure and do a nandroid backup thru recovery every time you wanna mess with something.
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Yes you lost your stock ROM but you can just download a sense ROM and flash that you can also find a stock rooted ROM on this site if you want that
To make a nandroid back up you can either use rom manager app from the market and do it that way or make one from recovery you should have cwm recovery so you might want to use rom manager for now its easy and you can name the backup.
Hope that helps you.
And tb only backs up your apps and data not your system.
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Thats the way to go.
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[Q] HELP - tried to update, now not rooted, all sorts of other problems

Hello,
I am having some serious issues with my Evo. For several weeks now my Gmail accounts have not been syncing at all, incredibly frustrating, to say the least. I was hoping that the Gingerbread update would take care of this, so I followed all the instructions I could find, downloaded the de-odexed zip update, booted into recovery, wiped davlik, then installed that zip, and it seems to have updated (I'm running 2.3.3 now, that's the updated version, right?). However, not only has that not solved my syncing issue, but now when I went into Titanium Backup, it said that it could not establish root access! Also, when I go into ROM Manager and try to "Manage and Restore Backups," nothing comes up, when I know there are 3 backups on there (I was trying to delete one of them to free up space on my SD card).
Maybe related are the terrible space issues I've been having. It's also for some time now been telling me that I'm running low on space, but I have moved virtually all of the big programs to the SD card and deleted things I do not use, so I really don't understand how it's having such space issues.
Anyway, I really need some help here. I guess the number one most important thing I need to figure out is why I am no longer rooted. Can I just reroot like I did in the first place? But I'm also very bothered by this syncing problem, and the space issue is not far behind.
Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Do you have the superuser app and what version is your hboot?
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Oh and do you have a recovery on that still works like among RA or clockwordmod (amon RA is way better tho)
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I do have SuperUser, but have used it very little - what can I do with it/what will it tell me?? Not sure what HBoot version I have - where do I find that?
I don't have Amon RA, I do have ClockWorkMod, although I'm a little confused - what is ROM Manager? I'm not sure if ClockWorkMod still works - how can I tell?
Sorry, I'm obviously fairly a novice at this. Thanks much for your quick reply, and thanks in advance for your help.
Superuser is the app that gives you root permission
and rom manager is an app for beginners that will allow people to download roms and making backups doesnt do nothing
OK im going to help you now but your going to have to flash a new rom and everything ok tell me when your ready
Ah, OK. Fantastic, thanks so much!!! I am ready anytime...
download that rename PC36IMG and put on root of sd card now go into bootloader go into fastboot and it should stay start update press volume up for yes ok then reboot
EDIT: hers a good link
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...ersonic-v2.3 - xda-developers&txt=PC36IMG.zip
Oh shoot, I just realized that, since I'm at work, I'm not going to be able to put anything on the SD card until I get home later tonight. Maybe you can just spell out the instructions and I'll give it whirl tonight?
Also, I just clicked on that link though, and got this message - "Parameter 'out' is required."
Thanks so much again!
yeah sure k and yeah link is bad
download that rename PC36IMG and put on root of sd card now go into bootloader go into fastboot and it should stay start update press volume up for yes ok then reboot
EDIT: hers a good link
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...ersonic-v2.3 - xda-developers&txt=PC36IMG.zip
now you should have amon ra as your recovery boot into recovery now make sure you downloaded a rom or you can use that stock rooted gingerbread and put it on root of sd now go into recovery on evo and click wipe cache then go into install zip from sd card choose the zip (rom) and it should install then reboot
and try titanium backup and gmail again if tb should work if gmail doesnt work view this thread on gmail http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703912
im currently running Decks rom with savaged-zen kernel sbc and everything is working perfectly heres a link to decks rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078558
Keep in mind you can flash any roms u want these are my choices
these are really stable ones
Here are some good Roms
Myns warm 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
End of Days
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065414
Decks Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078558
Konis elite series 3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941055
If he has ROM manager he should just try to change recoverys with that if not I'll post some links where you can get the recovery and some nice gb ROMs.
Recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
radios ,wimax,pri etc..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Mikg ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Kings ROM this is what I'm on its amazing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120734
These all have instructions on how to flash them .
Hope I helped you somewhat.
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yeah but he doesnt have root he has superuser but he doesnt have superuser permissions thats wht he said so he cant use like tb or rommanager and yeah mikgs rom is good but im giving him COMPLETELY stable roms with good battery life
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yeah but he doesnt have root he has superuser but he doesnt have superuser permissions thats wht he said so he cant use like tb or rommanager and yeah mikgs rom is good but im giving him COMPLETELY stable roms with good battery life
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Sorry didn't see that and I was posting all those links before I saw all yours didn't mean anything by it it just took that long and I just saw by the time I was done you had posted everything and yes decks is bad ass I also use that I have it backed up as well.
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So did he get it to work he hasn't posted?
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Thanks much to both of you. Yeah, all I really want is the updated stock rom rooted, I'll be happy with that. I'll try out what you suggested later and let you know what happens.
In the meantime, anyone have thoughts on my storage issues? It fluctuates like crazy, goes from 50 MB+ free, down to like 4. Driving me absolutely crazy!

[Q] Best way to seemlessly flash?

Hi Folks,
Newbie question here. I had installed the wonderful I317_Repack_T889_N7105ZHALJ4 ROM when it was first introduced in November. Not too bad, but kind of a pain. Last weekend I tried to install the Lidroid ROM, twice actually, and then I had to back it out because the phone went dead twice.
So my question is there an easier way to seemlessly install the ROM like the carriers tend to?
My process was something along these lines:
Take a TIBU off everything
do a Nandroid backup
Follow the flash process, I use CWM
Restore the apps, with app data using TIBU
Triangle away
Rebuild the APN
Setup all the screen layouts, widgets
Setup all the system default settings
Generally, the ROM builders recommend to not restore the app data. Boy it is a BIG time consumer if one has to go back and setup all app passwords and setting. Lots of apps I guess.
Even if I restore the app data, one still has to go through and setup all the phone defaults, home screens again, and general settings. Ends up taking me hours.
So is there some secret method to do this quicker, and easier? Is there something besides Titanium Backup that can save all this stuff, like system settings, home screen layout, app data and settings when going to a higher level of Android? Something that makes the process easier but is reliable?
Thanks in advance.
Well if you are talking about going back to stock, I have a topic for that in general.
If you are talking about flashibg roms...
I would make a nandroid backup of a stock rooted firmware the way you want it, then restore it when you want to flash a rom.
Your steps should now be this
Back up stock rooted firmware (once)
Then when flashing...
1. Restore backup of stock rooted firmware.
2. Flash Rom.
Then when you want a new Rom follow the same steps.
Why do triangle away over and over. If you want to revert to stock unrooted then do that.
I never use tibu anymore.... too lazy.
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Well if you are talking about going back to stock, I have a topic for that in general.
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I was looking for an easier way for the non-stock new wonder ROMs.
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I was looking for an easier way for the non-stock new wonder ROMs.
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ultimately the easiest way is to follow the directions in the op cuz beach developer has the best instructions for getting their specific ROM up and running.
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personally i flash over roms, I will only revert to stock if flashing over another rom causes problems.
I haven't been to stock on my note 1 since.... 5 minutes after I got it home..... in April
Just wipe and flash new rom.
Pretty much Any issue with a Rom installing( even say a boot loop) can be fixed with a simple redownload of the rom then moving it over to phone in recovery, wiping and flashing again. Or... restoring a backup of you are the type to make backups.
I pretty much treat going to stock add just for returning a phone for warranty due to legitimate hardware defects nowadays.

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