Few thing's
1) I can't find kernel for the froyo rom on evo. And after that which apps are good for overclock on evo.
2) is there an app that will not only back up apps but the settings within the apps so flashing different roms would be easier.
3) is it safer to reboot into recovery by actually doing it or are the rom managers capable without harming the system
Thanks.
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This is epic forum not evo. I moved the thread to evo general.
Thanks. I appreciate it. Told u I was a noob
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1. I think Cyanogen Snap is a Froyo kernel, but I also know it should be easy to find them on the first page of the Development forum if they're here. They'll start with [KERNEL] in the thread title. You didn't mean ROM, did you?
2. ClockworkMod Recovery or Amon Ra will back up everything as a system image, but Titanium Backup will back everything up more modularly AND allow you to restore things into different ROMs. This means you can flash, say, Fresh 1.0.1 and then restore your accounts, apps, app data, even scenes. Just know that it may be safer to only restore what you need, piece by piece as much as possible, rather than restoring everything all at once, unless you're using a Sense ROM. I didn't have any trouble when I restored everything, but I've seen some people say it's safer to be conservative.
3. I don't think it matters, but I always do my flashing work from the recovery boot, not while booted into Android. It's the same reason I turn off the engine in my car before I try working on it. I could probably do some stuff safely, but it's easier to just reboot into recovery.
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I've done a bunch of googling and can't seem to get a straight answer so I thought I'd just ask. I apologize for the noobishness of this question and thank every kind soul in advance for your help on this form in general and this question in particular.
To install cyanogenmod I had to install an older hboot (.76.2000 (pc361)). I did so and things are okay but I really need to wireless tether with 4G these days. So I want to go back to stock. When I try to restore my nandroid backup i get an error restoring the boot image. From what I've found this is due to the hboot version I'm using.
So my question is this: can I simply update the hboot to something newer? Would that remove my ability to run an nandroid recovery? Would I be better just doing a RUU recovery from scratch (or is that even possible)? Essentially, what is the fastest and safest way to get back to a stock image?
Thanks again for your help with this.
So I grabbed the latest RUU and thought I'd give that a shot. It won't work though as it won't see the phone...even though Windows is seeing the phone in device manager. I'm guessing this has to do with SENSE not being on there.
Can one extract the files from the RUU installer and just apply them via the clockwork recovery?
Sorry no one responded sooner you can just use the warm 2. 2 Rom its very good has 4g and Sprint hotspot is hacked automatically and its got a custom version of sense give it a go put it on the root of SD and flash through recovery no need for stock you'll see its enjoyable
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Also if necessary you can find an app for WiFi tether by googling WiFi tether apk
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hackulous said:
Also if necessary you can find an app for WiFi tether by googling WiFi tether apk
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You are both a scholar and a gentleman. I thank you for your help!
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Sorry no one responded sooner you can just use the warm 2. 2 Rom its very good has 4g and Sprint hotspot is hacked automatically and its got a custom version of sense give it a go put it on the root of SD and flash through recovery no need for stock you'll see its enjoyable
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From what I heard, the sprint hotspot app only tethers on 3G. Any truth to this?
I battled with the exact same issue. Search my posts for my thoughts and findings in this.
Briefly though, I can say I that you are on the money and I too didn't know how to get past this hboot issue, but I found a way around the issue.
from the beginning, To flash Cm6 you must flash to an older hboot, don't remember the version.
To perform a nandroid restore to your stock sense Rom backup you already made, that is now not working,you have to go back to that hboot you had before you went to the older on to get Cm6 to flash.
Here's how I did it with a little bonus info.
You can now ever make a nandroid backup of Cm6, incase you might want to go back to Cm6.
Use the 3.29. Ruu to get away from cm6 and put that hboot you need to run that nandroid restore to the sense Rom backup you made. This will make you completely stock.
Then you can use unrevoked to root again.
Now you can edo your nandroid restore to your backups that wouldn't work because our hboot is good to go now.
Also, good thing to know is that you can nandroid restore back to your Cm6 backup, if you made one, because its the flashing that requires that other hboot, not a nandroid backup.
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This is good info on how to go back to stock. If I weren't so damn busy with work and such I'd even think it should be a wiki article. The world of ROMs and ROOT is a fun place to play and opens up a lot of doors, but for a n00b you can feel kind of stuck. I thin it's because each phone/mfg tends to have their own quirks and so you can read general info but there are always these little variances which make me utterly afraid of bricking a $200 device....
I went with the Warm Two Point Two and, wow, it's slick. It gives me the 4G i needed and works quite well. It does also appear to tether over 4G as well. I'm very happy. But, again, it's good to have the steps outlined to go back to stock because I'm sure I won't be the last person to want to know how to do this.
Thanks again for all your help!
Sorry for the dumb question, but a full nandroid backup, is done how? With titanium, or rom manager. Like I said sorry for the dumb question but everything I read just confused me. I'm really not that dumb just need some because I confused myself. Thanks!
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I am new to this stuff but I learned pretty quick because I truly love my Evo so I want the best for it! (roms/kernels) but I over think everything so I need a few dumb questions answered from time to time...
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Nandroid backup is done through the recovery menu. Use titanium backup for the apps, sms backup for the texts, and for the contacts, go to contacts, hit menu then export to SD CARD.
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They aren't dumb questions, you're just starting out. But:
1. Titanium backup is to backup your apps and system, in case you do a clean wipe. backup your apps every so often, especially when you changing roms.
2. If on clockwork recovery, you can backup your rom using it.
3. You can manually backup by turning the off the phone, powering back up, but holding vol+down ad you do, and then in the bootloader screen. Once there, select recovery, then go to backup/restore.
Thanks roxx, you cleared up what I said. You always seem to answer my questions or be in the same thread as me.
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Cool thanks! I know how to flash roms through rom manager and kernels in recovery. I thought I was doing a nandroid backup by backing up my stock rom before flashing a new one. So I just boot into recovery (rom manager,or root manager) can't remember if it's root manager? But get into recovery and it will say nandroid backup? Once again thanks for helping me. I want to switch to a non-sense rom but don't wanna mess up my Evo!
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Re read your answer and got my other question answered thanks all
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Got it! Nandroid backup = backup/restore! So if I do a nandroid backup it will backup my phone/rom/etc... As it is now?
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Thanks roxx, you cleared up what I said. You always seem to answer my questions or be in the same thread as me.
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Anytime man, and you made perfect sense. And I'm always floating around.
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Cool thanks! I know how to flash roms through rom manager and kernels in recovery. I thought I was doing a nandroid backup by backing up my stock rom before flashing a new one. So I just boot into recovery (rom manager,or root manager) can't remember if it's root manager? But get into recovery and it will say nandroid backup? Once again thanks for helping me. I want to switch to a non-sense rom but don't wanna mess up my Evo!
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Well you can boot into recovery from rom manager, just select reboot into recovery. And I believe you're referring to the bootloader screen. And it only says "nandroid' if you're on amon_ra recovery, but nandroid/backup are the exact same thing. On clockwork, navigate to backup/restore, then backup..and it'll take about 2-5 minutes. After that, go back to the main menu, and wipe factory/data, cache, and then go under advanced and wipe the dalvik cache. After that, install zip from sdcard > install zip > select your rom. And when you boot up, log in, blah blah, then use titanium backup to restore your apps but NOT system settings, or you can get some force closes.
If that's the case, why do I need to flash back to stock rom before flashing a new one? If I'm backing up my phone with a custom rom? Or do I flash back to stock then do a nandroid? You can stop me anytime...lol..I am normal...i swear I am
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If that's the case, why do I need to flash back to stock rom before flashing a new one? If I'm backing up my phone with a custom rom? Or do I flash back to stock then do a nandroid? You can stop me anytime...lol..I am normal...i swear I am
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Lawlz, you don't have to flash back to the original stock rom before flashing a new one. You just backup your current rom, then flash the new one. You always backup befpre flashing in case something bad happens.
1. Backup/nandroid current rom
2. Wipe factory/data, cache, dalvik cache
3. Flash new rom
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And its good to ask questions.
Wow THANK YOU! That makes my life soo much easier. Thank everyone I think I now what I'm doing now and not just doing it! You guys rock!
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Wow THANK YOU! That makes my life soo much easier. Thank everyone I think I now what I'm doing now and not just doing it! You guys rock!
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Anytime, and glad you've got it clear. Always here to help if ya ever need anything.
If they used the proper term, it might be much less confusing. Backups made from the recovery menu are synonymous with making an image of the phone's entire file structure (similar to acronis trueimage for windows). This includes all the system files, applications, settings, and any related customizations.
Titanium backup on the other hand serves the function of baking up an individual application and its' associated data. I don't think there's an equivalent of this on the pc, but you get the idea.
I still don't know where this term 'nandroid' comes from. I've seen it used both as a noun and verb on here, which only complicates matters for those not familiar with the android terminology.
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If they used the proper term, it might be much less confusing. Backups made from the recovery menu are synonymous with making an image of the phone's entire file structure (similar to acronis trueimage for windows). This includes all the system files, applications, settings, and any related customizations.
Titanium backup on the other hand serves the function of baking up an individual application and its' associated data. I don't think there's an equivalent of this on the pc, but you get the idea.
I still don't know where this term 'nandroid' comes from. I've seen it used both as a noun and verb on here, which only complicates matters for those not familiar with the android terminology.
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'Nandroid' come from amon_ra, its what its listed from you when backup. Nandroid backup/restore. I personally don't know where it came from, but that's where people get it from.
I repeat what I hear, so nandroid could mean asswipe for all I know lol I never looked it up.
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I repeat what I hear, so nandroid could mean asswipe for all I know lol I never looked it up.
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I think it was a coined term relating to android, as that is the root of the word.
Nand is the type of flash memory that is used internally on our phones for the android system.
Nand + Android = Nandroid
I'm guessing that's how Amon came up with the name.
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Nand is the type of flash memory that is used internally on our phones for the android system.
Nand + Android = Nandroid
I'm guessing that's how Amon came up with the name.
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Exactly how.
I have been running this rom for a couple of days now. Its fast quick and very well designed. But I have been experiences a couple of issues. 1 wifi disconnects even when im next to my wireless router. 2 I get alot of droped calls for some reason while im on the phone an app will launch and drop my call. 3 Slingplayer works but when I change channels no picture comes up only the sound. I have used other roms and never had this issues can I get some help anyone.
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I have been running this since it came out wiped and flashed it multiple times over the course of messing with my phone and never had any of the above issues.
The first thing I would try is to wipe everything with calk's format all zip and reflash the ROM.
Do you have the link for zip file.
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This guy just attached it in another Q&A thread, but it's also in the Calkulin's Mods and Fixes thread and the EViO 2 thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12160262&postcount=2
Last two questions, how fo I flash this zip file, and where can I throw you some change, even if it doesnt work I would like to thank you for your help and quick responses, much appreciated.
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No need for donations, thanks button is enough. If you want to though, I added a link.
Flash from recovery. I usually wipe cache/dalvik/data/SD EXT (if your sd card is partitioned) and then flash the zip. If you are using Amon Ra, just flash that zip like any other ROM/Kernel, etc. You can flash it with older versions of clockwork as well, but not the current version. If you're running a newer clockwork, and it gives you an error when you try to flash it, just manually wipe cache/dalvik/data/boot/system then try flashing the ROM again.
Also, if you are using Titanium to restore your apps, make sure you don't restore any system data and when you restore your apps, restore app only and not app + data. If your backups are from a Froyo ROM, the safest thing to do is redownload them and make new back ups. I think you can change the name of your Froyo backups folder on the SD card so that you can keep them and use that to restore if you flash any new Froyo ROMs. Most people don't have issues restoring apps btw the two, but if you're having issues, better IMO to be safer. Hope that makes sense.
I saw that the final release of cm7 came out and I'm super excited for it! I've been running RC3 for awhile and it's been working fine, but there have been some issues that I would like to have fixed with the update.
My question is: Is there a way to update the rom without losing all of my data or having to do a full wipe?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
You wont need to do a full wipe, just download the ROM to your sd card, boot in to recovery and do a nandroid backup. Then select wipe cache. Once that has finished head to advanced and select wipe dalvik cache (some people say to do this some don't, I do) then flash the ROM.
You will only lose all your apps and setting if you select wipe data, you only need to do this if you are have serious issues that cant be fixed by any other means. Or if you changing to a completely different ROM.
And remember to do a nandroid before touching anything else in the recovery menu
That's it? Awesome! I know what I'll be doing tonight.
Or you can just do it from rom manager and not check the wipe data. I swear some of you just like taking the long way.
Always do a nandroid?No. Nandroid your original rom? YES. Nandroid custom rom? Only if you like it..but to do a nandroid every single time you flash new rom is ****
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Or you can just do it from rom manager and not check the wipe data. I swear some of you just like taking the long way.
Always do a nandroid?No. Nandroid your original rom? YES. Nandroid custom rom? Only if you like it..but to do a nandroid every single time you flash new rom is ****
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ROM Manager can some time cause issues when you flash directly from the app, Some people prefer to do it manually. Ok it might not be totally necessary to wipe the cache's between flashes but does really hurt?
And I resent you saying that doing a nandroid is "F'in Retarded" how frequently do we see people on these forums who have flashed something there not supposed and there most recent backup was weeks ago. It never hurts to do a nandroid it adds 5 minutes to the total time it takes flash something.
As some one who does do a nandroid every time I take your insult personally. And that sort of language is not appropriate in a forum where people of all ages can view.
LOL i don't even have a nandroid of my original ROM. I just got 1 image of RC4...
So I wanted to be 'better off safe than sorry', and I did a nandroid backup (using the latest CWM) before doing a CM7 RC3 -> CM7 Final non-full data wipe upgrade. I had a bunch of problems from the get go, and wanted to revert back to my RC3 backup as I didn't have time to fiddle with everything to get it tweaked from scratch...
However I can't for the life of me get Clockwork to recover my backup. It stops half way through and I'm left sitting at the main orange menu with no confirmation or details on what happened.
Any thoughts?
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Glad its not just be with this mentality. Better to be safe than sorry. I haven't had to start from scratch since the first nightly, because I all ways have a recent nandroid, some times things do go wrong.
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I did the backup (2 actually) and just installed the update. Everything seems totally fine so far and I'm really happy with it! Seriously stepping up to cm7 has made my G2 go from a decent phone with a nice keyboard to a flipping fantastic phone!
Many thanks!
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Your definition of *** seems to be basically the opposite of mine. What if an update breaks something (especially if you are cutting corners by not wiping or by using ROM manager) if you don't have a nandroid of your phone before you flashed that update you are screwed, you will need to start over from scratch.
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Yeah, I agree with you completely. Doing a nandroid takes 5 minutes. Then later you can just move it to your desktop computer, to not take up space on your SD card. I have 3 TB of storage on my desktop, so no worries about saving as many nandroid backups as I feel like.
I've seen random issues pop up on my phone for no obvious reason, with no clear fix. But reverting to a nandroid cleared it up.
Really no reason NOT to do it.
Hi Folks,
Newbie question here. I had installed the wonderful I317_Repack_T889_N7105ZHALJ4 ROM when it was first introduced in November. Not too bad, but kind of a pain. Last weekend I tried to install the Lidroid ROM, twice actually, and then I had to back it out because the phone went dead twice.
So my question is there an easier way to seemlessly install the ROM like the carriers tend to?
My process was something along these lines:
Take a TIBU off everything
do a Nandroid backup
Follow the flash process, I use CWM
Restore the apps, with app data using TIBU
Triangle away
Rebuild the APN
Setup all the screen layouts, widgets
Setup all the system default settings
Generally, the ROM builders recommend to not restore the app data. Boy it is a BIG time consumer if one has to go back and setup all app passwords and setting. Lots of apps I guess.
Even if I restore the app data, one still has to go through and setup all the phone defaults, home screens again, and general settings. Ends up taking me hours.
So is there some secret method to do this quicker, and easier? Is there something besides Titanium Backup that can save all this stuff, like system settings, home screen layout, app data and settings when going to a higher level of Android? Something that makes the process easier but is reliable?
Thanks in advance.
Well if you are talking about going back to stock, I have a topic for that in general.
If you are talking about flashibg roms...
I would make a nandroid backup of a stock rooted firmware the way you want it, then restore it when you want to flash a rom.
Your steps should now be this
Back up stock rooted firmware (once)
Then when flashing...
1. Restore backup of stock rooted firmware.
2. Flash Rom.
Then when you want a new Rom follow the same steps.
Why do triangle away over and over. If you want to revert to stock unrooted then do that.
I never use tibu anymore.... too lazy.
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Well if you are talking about going back to stock, I have a topic for that in general.
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I was looking for an easier way for the non-stock new wonder ROMs.
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I was looking for an easier way for the non-stock new wonder ROMs.
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ultimately the easiest way is to follow the directions in the op cuz beach developer has the best instructions for getting their specific ROM up and running.
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personally i flash over roms, I will only revert to stock if flashing over another rom causes problems.
I haven't been to stock on my note 1 since.... 5 minutes after I got it home..... in April
Just wipe and flash new rom.
Pretty much Any issue with a Rom installing( even say a boot loop) can be fixed with a simple redownload of the rom then moving it over to phone in recovery, wiping and flashing again. Or... restoring a backup of you are the type to make backups.
I pretty much treat going to stock add just for returning a phone for warranty due to legitimate hardware defects nowadays.