[Q] incredible or droid x - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As the title says which one? Presently, I have the incredible rooted and enjoying it very much. I upgraded my daughters phone to the droid x. This is her first smartphone and she's always been used to smaller phones. She commented that the x was big for her, so I said that I "might consider" trading if she wanted. But, I just don't know. I value opinions on this site, and rooted my phone with the help of people on this site. In fact, I quit looking at other forums because the help here has always been on target. So, come on and give me your opinions. Thanks

My co-worker has one...Seems very big and clunky to me. The actual buttons on the bottom make it feel outdated and the Moto Blur interface or whatever it's called seems a little slow in some respects. I know a lot of people don't like Sense but its way better than the Moto interface.

I almost picked the Droid X over the Incredible a couple weeks ago. But all I had to do was look at that washed-out screen on my friend's X and that made my choice a lot easier. The Incredible's screen, whether it's the AMOLED or SLCD (mine is SLCD), is simply amazing!

you ask this in the incredible forum - people will tell you to get the incredible (like me)
you ask this in the DroidX forum - people will tell you to get the X
play around with the x for a few days and see if YOU think it is worth giving up the incredible for...

g00s3y said:
you ask this in the incredible forum - people will tell you to get the incredible (like me)
you ask this in the DroidX forum - people will tell you to get the X
play around with the x for a few days and see if YOU think it is worth giving up the incredible for...
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Astute reply - Goos3y.
Yet the elephant in the room not being mentioned is that the X isn't really fully rooted.
As such, there's only so much modding/tweaking that can be done, unlike the Dinc, which is fully unlocked, and flush with mods/tweaks at the most base levels possible.

Good point. I was going to mention that but I got the impression there wasn't going to be much modding done on the phone anyway.
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IMO the only reason why people look at the Droid X is because of the huge screen.
Now 3.7 inches is not too small either..it's still above average. It's bigger than the low and mid-range Android phones. It's bigger than an iphone (3.5) and it's a hell of a lot bigger than my old storm (3.25).
The incredible's screen is far superior (especially the AMOLED imo). I'd rather have ridiculously dark blacks and vibrant colors just to sacrifice some time out in the sun which is going to make any phone look like crap anyways, even though it's worse on the incredible. The incredible's SLCD is better than the DX's screen as well. The DX just looks washed out and ugly if you've been using an incredible for a long time.
Despite what people say the RSS is very similar for both, I've done some side-by-side tests, the HTC just has problems reported the bars correctly.
The droid x is UGLY. Extra lips, old fashioned buttons, IMO it's an horrendous phone. The EVO is what a 4.3 inch phone should look like.
Also like others have mentioned the Inc is "hackable". With regards to the DX you can root it and that's about it. Any of the custom ROMs for it (I think there's like one?) are slow and not full replacement obviously.
Out of the box, the incredible is MUCH smoother than the DX's "fake motoblur".
Other than the ability to resize widgets..Sense > motoblur
Hardware specs are almost equal. 512 RAM, 8MP camera, 720p recording. Everyone thinks the OMAP 1 Ghz was going to be faster than the 1 Ghz snapdragon but from the benchmarks I've seen they're about the same or if anything the QSD8650 is faster. Please show me some benchmarks if you want to say that TI's implementation is better than Qualcomm's.
In almost every category the incredible beats the DX. EXCEPT in screen size, which could be either a pro or con considering the DX is, imo a poor implementation of 4.3 inches.

Not going to defend the DX per se, but I will say the physical buttons are actually better. (anyone who is playing a game and swipes too low on the screen only to be bumped out of the game because they hit one of the capacitive buttons will agree) The hdmi output is a nice bonus and the screen size is very nice for movies.
I personally like my amoled screen on the dinc... but that is rather subjective I think. Not everyone likes "real" black. ;-)
Having said all that... my biggest gripe on the DX (and my wife's D2, which is the same UI and proc) is the motoBlur-ish UI. Dispise some of the quirky and illogical changes from stock and loath the buried-menu concept with some settings they have. (completely an m$ trait that should not be on these phones) The occasional lag is (by my observation) from the proc clocking down so low on idle. (I've measured below 300 mhz on many occasions) It takes a split second to ramp up where the dinc on stock kernel (and most custom) does not clock so low and so "feels" faster. I've seen the same lag on dinc kernels that clock that low, I just think sense is not as 'heavy' and so is not as pronounced.
Just food for thought on anyone still considering between these phones. Having been in the bowels of the dinc and both the newer moto phones I think it really comes down to moto's vs. htc's custom android... if you root and flash to stock android then the hardware is the only thing you're worried about, but if not... IMO htc/sense is king for UI.

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I have a Hero, should I buy a Desire?

I have a GSM Hero with Android 1.6 and I'm thinking about buying a Desire with 2.1. I don't like flashing roms because there's always little bugs and things so I just prefer the stock ones. The price I'm getting on the Desire is $600 US brand new. The money isn't really an issue but I'm trying to decide if spending it is justifiable or if I'd just be wasting money on something that's basically the same as what I already have. What do you all think?
here look for your self,
The good: Epic customizability; well-designed home screen widgets with live updates; easy-to-use keyboard; convenient Android Market for apps; multitouch capability; Flash support; 3.5-millimeter headphone jack; Facebook integration.
The bad: Sluggish at times; Flash video is dodgy; no easy way to back up and restore; button and menu overkill.
The bottom line: If you can stand the Hero's occasional sluggishness, it's a fantastic smartphone packed with great features. We like its distinctive looks, and its innovative user interface brings Android much closer to being as fun and good-looking as the iPhone OS, while being far more customizable. Occasional lag and Android's rough edges mean it's not quite an iPhone killer, but it's definitely fighting in the same class.
HTC Desire
Previously known as the HTC Bravo, the Desire is essentially the Nexus One with HTC Sense. The sleek smartphone offers all the same specs as the N1, including a 3.7-inch AMOLED multitouch screen, a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, and Android 2.1, but utilizes HTC's Sense user experience rather than the standard Android skin.
This means you now get access to HTC's widgets, including some new ones like a revamped widget that shows a list view of all your mail instead of just one message. The Agenda widget also now displays your whole agenda on the screen, and like the HTC HD2, you get a weather widget right on the home screen that automatically displays the current conditions based on your location.
There are also some hidden goodies as well. In the browser, you can now do a long-press over some text to bring up a selection bar. This allows you to select a word that you can then look up in the dictionary or in Wikipedia. You can also select a whole paragraph to send to Google Translate to, well, translate. One other notable change is the optical joystick (a One & Co contribution) that replaces the trackball.
That's quite a predicament...
I wouldn't give up on your Hero just yet. It's still very capable and can probably do everything the current crop of devices can.
I would hold out until the next generation of devices. Why? What I'm about to say is known to induce drooling, so be prepared...
Dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU
How sexy would that be? On a phone!
That being said, I wouldn't mind another Desire owner in the community!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-core-snapdragon-chipsets-clocking-1-2g/
ohyeahar said:
That's quite a predicament...
I wouldn't give up on your Hero just yet. It's still very capable and can probably do everything the current crop of devices can.
I would hold out until the next generation of devices. Why? What I'm about to say is known to induce drooling, so be prepared...
Dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU
How sexy would that be? On a phone!
That being said, I wouldn't mind another Desire owner in the community!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-core-snapdragon-chipsets-clocking-1-2g/
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Dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU Oh i can not wait, hope HTC makes a 4.3 super amoled devices with 1gb ram and 512 nand memory that would be a sweet phone
1. Depends on the price.
2. Hero can now be officially upgraded to 2.1
3. I jumped from a G1 to a Desire. Payed 380 euros for it (unlocked, unbranded). Worth EVERY cent.
* superb screen (large, responsive, high resolution, great colors)
* very (VERY) speedy
* nice looking, great build quality (2 months old, not a single scratch, looks like new, not using any protection)
Bottom line: the Desire is a superb device, probably the best HTC has ever made, but if I had a Hero I would wait for the next one (slide keyboard?!). Problem is we don't know if there would be one this year. Tough decision.
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2. Hero can now be officially upgraded to 2.1
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How do you do that?
I actually just went ahead and bought the Desire, looking forward to receiving it
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Dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU
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I'm afraid that the battery life on this would be a joke
stingerpl said:
I'm afraid that the battery life on this would be a joke
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thats why i think this will be for tablets only but again i rather raw performance over battery life
If you're in the US make sure your network supports the Desire's. Some people have complained as they never checked and they get stuck with 2G only!
I was having a original Hero before my Desire and I must say the Desire is 10000 nicer and feels at least 1000 times as fast!
Much clearer screen, bigger and with that easier to handle it.
Only negative is the battery which is as weak as the hero's.
At the end of the day, I would always change the hero against the desire again
NO! Dont buy it!
I had a Hero as well. And I got a desire. And the desire is much much nicer imho.
The better screen in combination with the speed is well worth the upgrade.
If however, you don't need the speed you can always wait for the next flagship Android device from HTC. And start saving money already
But not for a moment did I ever regret getting the desire after my hero.
My Desire is currently in some 'repairs' because of the pinkish screen (I thought let's just send it to HTC and see what happens), but I'm back at my hero now and really miss the desire!
Oh... how I miss the speed and screen. And how do I NOT miss the trackball that works on its own
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Worth getting an incredible now, or waiting for Inc 2?

So I want a new phone.
I found one reseller near me that has 1 incredible in stock. Apprently it's the last one in the entire northeast. I like the incredible, I like the screen, like the size, don't like battery life, don't like no keyboard.
The Inc 2 (Vivo) is coming out soon. The only differences are a 4" screen (dislike, I hate big screen phones), 256 more RAM (no difference, Dinc is fas enough for me), and POSSIBLY better battery life (which would be a plus), don't like no keyboard. Inc2 will also have Wireless charging, but I doubt it will be any good, or portable
Another plus for the Dinc is that it's a "solved problem, root exists, it's been around for a while, there is tons of informaiotn on how to solve practically every concievable issue with the phone. Inc2 will be starting fresh, so ther's waiting for root, waiting for common issues to be sorted out, etc.
So which should I get? I hate the whole "whatever I pick, I'm stuck for 2 years" BS.
Personally I like the Incredible better then the Inc 2. I agree the big screen phones don't look good and not to mention require a man-purse to carry. Also agree that the inc has a huge tech base. All kinds of ROMs and themes. Another deal breaker for the inc2 is the screen is SLCD. I prefer AMOLED on my Dinc. Looks way cleaner and crisper.
My. 02
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Incredibles have SLCD now...
I've had an incredible since the day it came out. (4/29/10)
Its rock solid. With tweaking i can make it two days of mild to moderate use.
But if you want to go for a new phone, go for it. The incredible 2 will have 2 cameras, and a second gen processor. However, it looks plasticky, and its resolution is no better than the incredibles, so the screen, stretched out to 4 inches, will look lower quality. Don't expect great battery life either.
You might be wise to take a look at some of the other Verizon phones, like the thunderbolt, the droid bionic, etc...
The thuderbolt is even bigger than the Inc2. 4.3" is just too big for a handheld device. I have no desire to carry around a dinner plate as my phone. On paper the Shift is the best (3.8" with keyboard) bt the build quality and hardware design are quite frankly crap. Slider sucks, terrible button placement, and a crappy screen.
Anyway, turns out the incredible that store thought they had in stock, they didn't. But Wirefly says they still have some for sale (for free, too boot, since this is a new Verizon account for me) so I'll order that tonight.
Since I'm getting the phone for free, think it's worth spending the $70 for the year long proteciton plan? I'm a little concerned that they don't cover "negligent loss", although I suppose if I do lose it I could always just tell them someone broke into my car and took it.
Let me take this chance to also say you guys are a prety awesome community, I've been frustrted and posted a bunch of whiny little ***** comments, and people still help me. You guys rule
Just ordered in an Incredible 1. Was in the same boat as you and decided that I didn't need all the extras that the 2 had to offer. Seriously, at some point, it is just more gadget that I am going to use (two cameras?).
Best protection you can buy, IMHO, is a good case (I prefer Otterbox, but there are a lot of good options). The deductable on some of those insurance plans will wipe out any value the Incredible may have had anyway.
i think its a dillema
in one think, this incredible allready 1 year old, so it's basically left in feature n tech
more ram I think more great
but if you get a reasonable price for this incredible why not ?
I'm also still use my incredible as my multimedia phone, i love it very much.
If you really want a keyboard, wait for the Merge.
I thought you still had some time left to get a 1 year contract.
Why not buy a used Inc or "like new but never used"? I bought mine on evilbay that way, and it was new, just had been activated and shut off.
You could actually make $ this way. Get a new phone, like the 'bolt, or even the Inc 2, at the contract price, sell it for a good profit, and then buy the Inc on eBay for much less than the new gen phones go for. Plenty of newish Incs to be had.
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If you really want a keyboard, wait for the Merge.
I thought you still had some time left to get a 1 year contract.
Why not buy a used Inc or "like new but never used"? I bought mine on evilbay that way, and it was new, just had been activated and shut off.
You could actually make $ this way. Get a new phone, like the 'bolt, or even the Inc 2, at the contract price, sell it for a good profit, and then buy the Inc on eBay for much less than the new gen phones go for. Plenty of newish Incs to be had.
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Sounds like the best idea. If you reread your OP, everything points to the incredible anyway.
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emkorial said:
So I want a new phone.
I found one reseller near me that has 1 incredible in stock. Apprently it's the last one in the entire northeast. I like the incredible, I like the screen, like the size, don't like battery life, don't like no keyboard.
The Inc 2 (Vivo) is coming out soon. The only differences are a 4" screen (dislike, I hate big screen phones), 256 more RAM (no difference, Dinc is fas enough for me), and POSSIBLY better battery life (which would be a plus), don't like no keyboard. Inc2 will also have Wireless charging, but I doubt it will be any good, or portable
Another plus for the Dinc is that it's a "solved problem, root exists, it's been around for a while, there is tons of informaiotn on how to solve practically every concievable issue with the phone. Inc2 will be starting fresh, so ther's waiting for root, waiting for common issues to be sorted out, etc.
So which should I get? I hate the whole "whatever I pick, I'm stuck for 2 years" BS.
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Honestly for you then I think you just answered your own question. Myself I think 3.7 is a bit too small. I'd like between 4 and 4.3. So the inc 2 will be mine one day...
I just got a Thunderbolt coming from an Incredible (coming from a Fascinate). I don't think say that you can't go wrong with the Incredible. It is solid in almost all areas. I used Juice Defender and then used Green Power while using a stock EVO battery and I didn't have any isssues with battery life. The Incredible has basically the same processor and is very snappy even when compared to any of the newest phones. I bought the Thunderbolt for the 4G speed and the front facing camera. I hardly use the front camera and the 4G speed is fast but I never have a strong signal to really take advantage of it. I use wifi 90% when I need internet so 3g on the Incredible is hardly noticed (3g isn't that bad for most things anyway) The larger screen is really nice and, to the contrary of what others say, doesn't require a man purse- fits in my pocket fine without a problem. However, in sum, I can honestly say that upgrading to a Thunderbolt isn't all that I thought it would be and I would be just fine with the Incredible.
I don't know why you would buy old technology at this point - the incredible is almost a year old. After having the incredible and using it more and more for browsing the net, I wish I had a little bit bigger screen. Maybe not the size of the Thunderbolt but tthe incredible 2 size would be perfect. Also, I upgraded to the extended battery on my incredible because the battery life is unbearable IMO even with root and custom roms. I haven't looked but I'd hope the Incredible 2 will have better battery life.
Finally found someone who had one in stock, wirefly.com had them, and it was free with a new line of service, which I needed (I'm coming from Sprint). So I sprung for the year long protection plan. Phone should be here Wed or Thu. I got 2 weeks to back out if something comes up.
meh... Incredible 2.
Id would go for the Incredible 2. It has a superior processor and more ram. Also bigger screens are not that cumbersome. If my friend who is 4'9" 90lbs and always wears tight pants with small pockets can lug around his Galaxy S all day I don't think its a problem. Also the DInc is being discontinued, after the gingerbread ota don't count on it getting newer versions of android except through custom roms, which will also die down when the devs get their upgrades. Not to mention all the other under the hood things HTC may have overhauled such as the motherbaord.
The 2 is a world phone you might want to get the thunderbolt that has the new sense UI and it'll get 2.3 update before the incredible. I'm on my incredible bow and love it but figure I would give you q little info if your planning on getting a new phone.
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I just got my Inc about a month ago so I'm stuck with it for a while, so far it's worth it to me, it gets the job done.
Incredible 2
I'd wait for the inc2 because of the front facing camera 768mb ram newer 1ghz snapdragon processor and 4 inch display which is a perfect size not to big or small and because it is a world phone and because it will get more updates than the original incredible THE INCREDIBLE 2 might even get the rumored Android Ice Cream Sandwhich which the incredible one will not get and the incredible one might not even get sense 2.0
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just get the incredible and love it. I have been loving mine. The keyboard is great and with a simple default profile on juice defender, a task killer, and a bump charge from time to time it is fine
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Nnnnnoooooooo task killer....noooo...nnoooooo
I bought my DInc off of CL for 200 back in December, so Im not stuck on a stupid Verizon contract. If you dont care about those things, then wait for a DInc2. My only fear about DInc2 and the Thunderbolt is that it may be severely locked down, which could hamper ROM development.
Thy have their pros and cons but if it is between the Incredible and Incredible 2 I say stick with the original. I2 has some cool extra's (2 camera's) but because the screen is larger and the resolution isn't any higher it won't look as sharp as D1.
If you want a newer phone I suggest the Thunderbolt or the Droid Bionic (that thing looks like it could be awesome!) but if you are fine with the incredible for a cheaper price it is a wise choice.

[Q]Desire Z or Desire HD/Inspire

The Desire Z was my first ever android phone after coming from iPhones (2G>3G>3GS>DZ) and it's definitely won me over iOS (aside from the appstore, but the android market is exploding). After switching around phones, I want to find one that will satisfy me for a long period of time, and right now it's between the Desire Z or Desire HD.
To the people who have both a Desire Z and a Desire HD/Inspire, which do you prefer/which do you think is the better phone in general? Disregard anything stock, and assume the most you could do with both of them rooted. (Define them on terms of everything: Dev support, development, screen size, screen display, battery, performance, general feel/use, etc).
Off-topic question, but if anyone knows, is it possible to use THD apps on the Desire Z? (ie. Fruit Ninja THD)
If it ain't got a kb it ain't better than the dz! Ill never own another "bar" style device, depends on personal preference but I looooove having a full kb. (Fat fingers)
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To the people who have both a Desire Z and a Desire HD/Inspire, which do you prefer/which do you think is the better phone in general? Disregard anything stock, and assume the most you could do with both of them rooted. (Define them on terms of everything: Dev support, development, screen size, screen display, battery, performance, general feel/use, etc).
Off-topic question, but if anyone knows, is it possible to use THD apps on the Desire Z? (ie. Fruit Ninja THD)
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I have the DZ, brother has the DHD.
Personally, they're both the same phone. Only differences:
DHD: 4.3" screen, last-gen 1GHz Snapdragon CPU, Al unibody chassis, dual LED flash, 8MP camera
DZ: 3.7" screen, current-gen 800MHz Snapdragon CPU, physical keyboard, single LED flash, 5MP camera, dedicated camera button
Of the two, I would get the DZ. The CPU is more efficient, the 3.7" screen isn't too big but isn't too small. Physical keyboard ensures that you have 100% screenspace for whatever you are looking at rather than having the Onscreen keyboard take up 50%+ screen space when typing. Despite having a single LED flash and a 5MP camera, it easily compares with the DHD's dual flash and 8MP stills.
If you have the older firmware, both are very easy to root. Once you have root and custom rom's on them, they're essentially the same phone save for the physical keyboard. That would be the deciding factor in choosing IMO.
Have fun!
Oh the DHD uses last gen snapdragon? Was under the impression that they were both 2nd gen. That pretty much decides it then LOL, thanks. Hows the dev on the DHD compared to DZ?
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Oh the DHD uses last gen snapdragon? Was under the impression that they were both 2nd gen. That pretty much decides it then LOL, thanks. Hows the dev on the DHD compared to DZ?
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yep, the DHD uses the last-gen Snapdragon CPU. That's why it's stock clocked at 1GHz while the DZ is clocked at 800MHz and it still keeps up while being power efficient.
I don't hang around the DHD section too much, but my brother seems to be happy with them. But then again, what kind of Dev is not helpful or nice on XDA? haha
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yep, the DHD uses the last-gen Snapdragon CPU. That's why it's stock clocked at 1GHz while the DZ is clocked at 800MHz and it still keeps up while being power efficient.
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Wrong. The CPU on the Desire HD is the same generation CPU as the Vision, using the same 45 nm process (the "older" Snapdragons use 65 nm). And both use the same Adreno 205 GPU. I can't find any benchmarks comparing the 2, but my money would (obviously) be on the DHD being faster. Not sure if its as overclockable as the Vision, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Since the OP is an iPhone user for a few generations, I'd say he probably won't care about the hardware keyboard. And personally, with Swype, I've found myself using the hardware kb less and less. For my next phone I will very possibly go without the hardware kb. And that's coming from a formerly stubborn hardware kb proponent, this being my 3rd smartphone with one. Personally, I find myself typing just as fast (maybe even faster) using Swype, without the hassle of having to open the keyboard and turn the phone sideways. Not to mention the weight and thickness savings you get by ditching the keyboard.
Add in the faster CPU, and larger screen, and I would tend to lean toward the Desire HD, myself. There are a couple other minor considerations, like I read some reviews mentioning the volume rocker on the DHD felt cheaper, and the speaker is supposedly a bit better on the Vision. But these seem like minor quibbles, overall.
It all comes down to personal preference in the end, of course. Try to play around with both, if you can. Its mostly about the form factor. Whichever one feels better, is the one for you.
I can't get my hands on a DHD to play around with, which is why I'm asking fellow XDA members for their opinions. Having a keyboard doesnt bother me, it's nice to have one, but I wouldn't be hindered if I didn't have one. The deciding factors are pretty much which phone will last me longer in the long run. Which would hypothetically be supported longer by devs, which would be better for general use (call quality, performance, etc), and which would physically last longer (I would assume the DHD would last longer, though, since it doesn't have a hinge). I've also read that the battery life on the DHD is horrible, is this true?
Can't speak personally on the DHD. But comments I've read say you can typically get a full day using the "usual" Android battery saving tips (turn down screen brightness, turn off WiFi when not in area of a WiFi network, turn off GPS when not in use, etc.). Charging overnight is pretty much par for the course with any smartphone nowadays, with any moderate use. Of course, it all depends on how you use your phone. A larger screen will mean shorter battery life. But with the right amount of tweaking of the settings, you should be fine.
In theory, a phone with a slide/hinged keyboard would be easier to break. More moving parts means more things that can possibly fail, with failure of the ribbon cable between the screen and keyboard being a somewhat occasional point of failure for slider/hinge type phones. But this is my 3rd HTC phone with a hinge/slider. My Tilt2/Rhodium is 1.5 years old, and my Tilt/Kaiser is 3.5 years old, and they are both in good shape. HTC builds these phones pretty well. Take decent care of it, and it should last a while.

[Q] swap for a droid x2?

I know it is still early in the dinc2 development stages but things are not looking promising. My 14 day Verizon return is creeping up on me.
Should I stick with the dinc2 or trade it in for something else?
The main contender at the moment is the droid x2. From what I have read so far the boot loader is locked. (See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089067). The dual cores, qHD screen and large amount of support for the previous generation are all solid selling points for me.
I have also considered the thunderbolt but have decided against it. There's no LTE in my area yet, the battery life is abysmal, and it is a massive phone.
I am open to other suggestions I have not mentioned as well.
TL;DR: Swap my dinc2 for a droid x2 (or other non-thunderbolt verizon phone)?
I have a dx2 and im thinking of trading it for something else, not sure what i want tho
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No way would i get an x, x2, or any other moto. D2 was my last mistake.
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Despite being dual-core with qHD it's running a weird resolution
Motoblur is so eh to me, everytime I try it in the store it's really slow
The design of the phone is just ugly to me with the really square look and physical buttons
I just received a Droid X2 today and I must say it is the clunkiest phone I have ever used. I cannot believe how much it locks up and how choppy everything is. My Fascinate blows it away.
I wish we had a better root scene over here. The only reason I'm still considering a thunderbolt is because of this. Where is the incredible s in terms of perm root?
dinc 2 is a great phone, however I've also been thinking about trading to the x2 just for the tegra 2 processor and future gingerbread update. that will be a wonderful phone to work with in the future. i'd love to trade someone my dinc 2 for an x2 but i doubt i'll get that lucky..
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dinc 2 is a great phone, however I've also been thinking about trading to the x2 just for the tegra 2 processor and future gingerbread update. that will be a wonderful phone to work with in the future. i'd love to trade someone my dinc 2 for an x2 but i doubt i'll get that lucky..
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Why don't you think dinc2 will get Gingerbread? Ill bet it does.
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Why don't you think dinc2 will get Gingerbread? Ill bet it does.
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I implied the combination of Tegra 2 AND Gingerbread, not just the Snapdragon and gingerbread combo of the INC2. T2 / 2.3 will be pretty rad.
In light of this release by HTC: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098489 I have decided to stick with the incredible 2.
It is difficult to see into the future where dual core phones will actually be utilized to their full potential. I just don't see that happening for a while.
The battery life and aesthetics are too appealing to make the switch.
Its really that difficult when no one knows how android will take out of there bag
Nitro a lot of what makes the Fascinate so good is what devs like you corrected in major flaws from Samsung and Verizon.
Can't wait to see permanent root on the DInc2, to see what the dev community can do with this powerhouse.
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I just received a Droid X2 today and I must say it is the clunkiest phone I have ever used. I cannot believe how much it locks up and how choppy everything is. My Fascinate blows it away.
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for a solid week, I was debating between buying a DInc2 or waiting for the Droid X2 to come out. The day the X2 released, I was at my local retailer waiting to buy one and turned out to be the first in my state to purchase one. I set it up, activated it, took it home and played with it for a good 2 hours... then i brought it back to the store and returned it for a DInc2. reason? HTC Sense vs Moto Blur. Blur is horrible in my opinion. its clunky, utilitarian, lacks the visual aesthetics, ease of use, and functionality of HTC sense. syncing facebook contacts was a nightmare on Blur. Sense practically synced for me with barely any user input.
The fit and finish of the Incredible 2 is miles ahead of the bulky clunky case of the X2, and despite the bigger screen, the Inc2's display does not disappoint in any way.
While the X2 has superior hardware, (dual core processor, bigger screen), I would compare it to running Windows XP Home on an Alienware computer. nothing but wasted potential.
I say, unequivocally, just wait until these developers find a way to perm root the Incredible 2, or until HTC does away with their locked bootloaders, and you'll have everything you want in a phone and more.
Return it and wait for the Bionic.
I just got my dx2 a few days ago and I'm happy. Of course blur sucks and slows the phone down to a crawl. I've been reading this is a huge problem but seems to be related to blur. I installed Launcher Pro and for some unknown reason, my phone speed/responsiveness has increased drastically. It no longer freezes or hangs. With that said, here are the pro's/cons in my opinion.
Pros: New screen is awesome, very fast after I installed launcher pro and if the DX2 gets half the attention the DX did, there will be some pretty awesome roms coming out pretty soon.
Cons: I've heard rumors the tegra 2 processor does not play well with 4G LTE and has some issues (but what phone doesn't have any issues. That's why I think they switched to the OMAP4)... No 4G LTE and of coarse the locked bootloader (but the DX got around that pretty good).
In my opinion, the speed, screen and potential for custom ROMS were the selling point.
The low RAM on the X2 is the bottleneck from hell. After blur and the GPU, the RAM available to the phone for use is comparable to the D1. You literally can't multitask on it. I had an X2 and returned it for an Incredible (I wasn't eligible for a 3g phone because it was an early early upgrade).
Software matters a lot and people tend to forget this. Look how much more lightweight Android is than PC Windows. Sometimes a phone with less powerful specs is still faster because of the software. Blur is a resource hog.
Isn't there a perm-root for the X2, you could just install a custom ROM that gives you stock Android.
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The low RAM on the X2 is the bottleneck from hell. After blur and the GPU, the RAM available to the phone for use is comparable to the D1. You literally can't multitask on it. I had an X2 and returned it for an Incredible (I wasn't eligible for a 3g phone because it was an early early upgrade).
Software matters a lot and people tend to forget this. Look how much more lightweight Android is than PC Windows. Sometimes a phone with less powerful specs is still faster because of the software. Blur is a resource hog.
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That's what I LOVE about my inc2, always above 200mb free if not 250-300.

Thinking about buy?

For months I've been trying to upgrade. (At&t straight talk etc.) I was going to buy an old my touch 4g slide put it on straight talk but right now its hard to find. So the HTC one v is it worth it (cdma version) would I enjoy it more the I enjoyed my ov? Do you think more roms will be made? Tough decision seeing as I work at lil ceazers not making much lol. So big question is it a good phone?
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I know there's some awesome devs like jmz working in the CDMA side, but until htc releases the source it'll be slow going.
I came to the OneV from an optimus v, and i love this phone way more. Even if you look at just the hardware, it's a big step up (or at least it feels like it).
If you're planning on doing straight talk, that's GSM not CDMA. Only the virgin mobile OneV is CDMA.
Would you say its worth the upgrade then?
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I was waiting for the price to go down, but I bit the bullet based on 3 things:
1. the screen! one look at the fonts and I was in love!
2. ICE CREAM SANDWICH!
3. The development! In a span of 3 months this community/devs have done a wonderful job in showcasing the future of this phone!
I don't want to come off as too negative about this phone, as it is very beautiful and I would probably buy it again. So just be aware that this post is mostly focusing on the negatives.
While single core 1ghz isn't the fastest around, it is fast enough for an android phone. In fact I noticed no significant speed difference to my 1,5ghz dualcore Sensation. And HTC even released a 600mhz phone this year, the desire C. In my experience the utility of more CPU power in android phones maxes out at around 1 ghz. More CPU power and screen real estate just means lower battery life. And the battery life on this thing is pretty much the best you're going to find in the ICS camp. With many of the big-and-fast alternatives, if you're actually using it you're not going to take that many steps away from the charger.
That being said, at the moment I'm slightly pissed off about some aspects of this phone. That's mostly because it feels like a repackaged 2010 phone. It is very pretty with the aluminum unibody and all, compared to this even new high end devices look cheap and plasticy. But you have to like the design, because it's not the most cost-effective hardware. There are a few year-old android phones around with the same hardware, that you can get used for like 100 bucks less, and most of them come with a full list of polished ICS custom roms. With the One V you pay extra for the design and for getting ICS out of the box. And that's not even of much use if you're capable of installing a custom rom.
I bit the bullet because I was running out of other options that fit my preferences. I wanted a three-button setup, and less than 4", and pretty much all alternatives in that camp seem to have some crippling flaw, like crappy battery life or nonexistent GPS capabilities or a really mirrory screen. So far I haven't noticed any flaws on the V, except for the inexplicable button and usb-plug placement, and that the front speaker is really quiet. But most importantly, since it's a new phone, and a non-high-end device, custom rom availability is only just starting to build up. For example there is still no way to get real status bar toggles, which my first smartphone from 2009 with Cyanogen 6 could do.
In the end it comes down to whether you like the design, or whether you care about raw specs more. I'm just not as interested in counting cpu cores, so it's fine for me. Don't get me wrong, it runs perfectly smooth. But it is just 400mhz up from a Legend.
If you like the nose and the aluminum unibody, and prefer a not-too-huge phone, then go for it. But if you are looking for the most price-effective hardware, then buy something used with the same capabilities. You just have to be aware that you pay extra for the fancy design here.
When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
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When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
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Lol its not ics its sense 4.0 , and plus I don't see any lag anywhere on this other then the settings.
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It's android 4.03 under that sense ui. Find someone who has older android phone 2.3.x,even a bad one, and compare. It's true that you only feel that lag in multitasking and browsing...like pinch to zoom etc...but also scroll between screens is a big delay
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For me cm9, nonsense rom and even suprimo 4.1 made it respond faster but still not even comparable to 2.3.x devices
the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
i guess it all comes from what phone you come from and your budget. i came from a huawei ascend (junk) i love this phone! My wife had a huawei ascend 2 (junk) and i got her on of these and she loves it. I am rooted and running a custom rom, she is rooted and running stock with no bloat. i am sure there are many phones out there that are better than this one, but for our carrier and budget, we can't beat it!
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the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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scypheroth said:
the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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hell if u think its a crappy phone then u dont deserve to be here.....love what you have!

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