Juice defender beta efficiency? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm using juice defender beta but everyday the efficiency seems to decrease, it's at 2.06x right now, why should I do?
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definitely would like to hear some input on this as well. Ive tried combinations of defender plotter and setcpu (with NO overclocking) and I cant see that any of these working with or without make a difference. Plotter all by itself you can just see how fast you battery dropped off and when.

jacoballen22 said:
I'm using juice defender beta but everyday the efficiency seems to decrease, it's at 2.06x right now, why should I do?
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How well is it working outside of that?
By 2.06x, are you really getting 48-50 hours between charges?

it will decrease with more use of your phone, if you dont use your phone much for a day it'll be like 2.xx but if you use it often like i did i constantly had around 1.8. so its mostly about use of your phone

this is correct. depending on settings the more time your screen is on the lower the number will go. This is normal and working as intended.

Well I haven't gotten over 12 hours with it even when it was at 3.xx. I'm running setcpu and autostarts as well. I'm still having battery trouble. At the moment I am trying to see if my battery gets better by turning juice defender off and leaving the plotter on. Any tips?
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I'[email protected] hours without juice defender enabled with 23% left.
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Juice defender any good?

I am using chads incredikernel with HAVS and i was wondering if. Juice defender would be of any help. I with typical use my. Battery gets to 30 by 7 or 8, and sometimes I cant charge it until 11. By then it's basically dead. So i am looking for ways to improve battery. I have the think 2500mwh battery.
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Towards the end of the day when I hit around 20% I turn off 3g. With 3g off I can get 2 hours out of every percent if I use it like a normal phone... calls and texts.
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I use Juice Defender(paid version) and love it. It's a great app! I have noticed since using it that my battery goes way farther than without it. If you get the free version, you will probably not see the gains as well. I'm using the stock battery and get close to 2 days on a charge with moderate use; internet, phone, angry birds, and etc..
I used to use the paid version of juice defender. I stopped using it because every day my phone got slower and slower, and then i disabled JD and my phone was slick again. It's a great app and it really did improve my battery a lot, but the fact that it made my phone quite slow sucked.

Yet another extended battery 2400mah

Anybody using one of these 2400mah batteries on their evo?
http://www.amazon.com/Extended-Cell-Phone-Battery-2400/dp/B0040MNJPC
not bad for the price
I just don't see why people get extended batteries when kernels now days are supporting my battery all day dragging on into the mornings.. i guess every phone reacts differently.
conman123 said:
I just don't see why people get extended batteries when kernels now days are supporting my battery all day dragging on into the mornings.. i guess every phone reacts differently.
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pm me where the crap are these battery saving kernals cause all i get is **** and can't find the right link any and all help would be appreciative cause seriously thinking about going to the epic.
bfitzpatrickd2d said:
pm me where the crap are these battery saving kernals cause all i get is **** and can't find the right link any and all help would be appreciative cause seriously thinking about going to the epic.
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I've tried all the hottest kernels and battery saving tricks and still average only 8hrs under real world use
Running Evo Deck 1.2.1, display at 12%, couple widgets, data off (using wifi at home) , sync off, and all of that. Underclocked, undervolted too.
Browsing, xda app, etc results in 20% battery usage per hour. Battery consumption is zero at idle, but drops like a rock if i use the phone at all.
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I'm using Seidio 3500mah and enjoying the 5 days no charging. I use my phone mainly for texting/facebooking.
Braneless said:
I've tried all the hottest kernels and battery saving tricks and still average only 8hrs under real world use
Running Evo Deck 1.2.1, display at 12%, couple widgets, data off (using wifi at home) , sync off, and all of that. Underclocked, undervolted too.
Browsing, xda app, etc results in 20% battery usage per hour. Battery consumption is zero at idle, but drops like a rock if i use the phone at all.
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I'm evo deck 1.2.1 with sz 2.2.1
Setcpu at 245/1152 sz governor
Chainfire 3d
Battery calibrated
VM heap at 48
SD card cache set to 8192 on my class six
Brightness on auto
I get 20+ hours of heavy use, xda, music, browsing I'm sixteen so my girlfriend is ALWAYS texting me some pandora, youtube tossed in there
Oh and I'm using a live wallpaper (pixel rain) I keep sync on, gmail hourly everything else daily, weather on the half hour, right now my phone is at 17 hours with 38 percent left.
Under lighter usage ( more pocket time, less texting, less sitting around bored on xda and Facebook )
30 hours is pretty common
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Zac95....I hate you lol.
Maybe my batteries are shot - their health shows "good " though. I have two OEM 1500 batteries that I swap, but I did buy an HTC 2150mAh, just waiting on my battery cover to arrive before I use it.
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Battery calibration is very important, don't know how I lived without it
Setting the VM heap to 48 allows the dalvik garbage collector to run less, improving battery
Chainfire 3d helps with anything graphical, makes home using lwps smoother, games run better etc, also saves battery by making all animations, graphics processing more efficient
If you use apps2sd bumping the cache makes it faster, and more efficient saving battery
Also updating to the latest radios etc, and making sure your prls and profile is up to date is essential, many aosp users, formerly including my self forget about that stuff
I've spent a huge amount of time expirementing with different setups, I think I've found my phones sweet spot
I have loads of friends with rooted evos, mine has the best battery and is typically fastest (chainfire 3d) makes everything snappier
Maybe with all of this info you can test these apps / settings and find your phones sweet spot. Good luck man
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Zac95 said:
Battery calibration is very important, don't know how I lived without it
Setting the VM heap to 48 allows the dalvik garbage collector to run less, improving battery
Chainfire 3d helps with anything graphical, makes home using lwps smoother, games run better etc, also saves battery by making all animations, graphics processing more efficient
If you use apps2sd bumping the cache makes it faster, and more efficient saving battery
Also updating to the latest radios etc, and making sure your prls and profile is up to date is essential, many aosp users, formerly including my self forget about that stuff
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would love to know what you did exactly and how to do it...need major battery life improvement.
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oski252 said:
would love to know what you did exactly and how to do it...need major battery life improvement.
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What would you like to know? I'd love to help. You can pm me if you'd like
My setup is also posted a few posts back.
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Since I'm stock for now, my battery sucks.
thinking of buying this since its apparently the same size as the original.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-EVO-4G-EXTE...ltDomain_0&hash=item4aad318894#ht_2377wt_1270
what do you guys think? Can't get a 3500 due to my otterbox case
gab2012 said:
Since I'm stock for now, my battery sucks.
thinking of buying this since its apparently the same size as the original.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-EVO-4G-EXTE...ltDomain_0&hash=item4aad318894#ht_2377wt_1270
what do you guys think? Can't get a 3500 due to my otterbox case
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I wonder how the mfg pulled that off? My HTC 2150mAh battery is twice as thick as the 1500. I'd bet that that eBay battery will not yield the stated 2100mAh.
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I just bought 2 batteries and a wall charger from amazon, and I just switch out batteries, no more charging or being tied down to a seat
Zac95 said:
I'm evo deck 1.2.1 with sz 2.2.1
Setcpu at 245/1152 sz governor
Chainfire 3d
Battery calibrated
VM heap at 48
SD card cache set to 8192 on my class six
Brightness on auto
I get 20+ hours of heavy use, xda, music, browsing I'm sixteen so my girlfriend is ALWAYS texting me some pandora, youtube tossed in there
Oh and I'm using a live wallpaper (pixel rain) I keep sync on, gmail hourly everything else daily, weather on the half hour, right now my phone is at 17 hours with 38 percent left.
Under lighter usage ( more pocket time, less texting, less sitting around bored on xda and Facebook )
30 hours is pretty common
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I'll agree with Zac here,
evo 3d with CM7 nightly, SavagedZen 2.2.1 CFS. removed all the crap i dont use or think they suck the battery down. live wallpaper etc.
InteractiveX governor, 245-1113mhz
No setCPU.
no juice defender
no taskkiller.
no 4g - no gps - no wifi
blutooth ON
3g always ON.
battery calibrated is a must
display set to manual around 33% brightness. but i change it on the fly (swipe the notif bar).
Now the results are pretty interesting here:
With the stock battery and all the above; if the reception is good, i can go for 2 days with moderate usage. yes i know i night i sleep, so it idles nicely.
If the signal is not so good, it will destroy the battery, and can't really get anything more than 13hours.
My typical use:
unplug at 10am.
use the phone normally.
plug it back in at midnight that night, and i would have between 35% or up to 67% battery left in the phone, depending on the factors mentioned.
Which to me, going all day is all i wanted before i started tweaking. Mission accomplished.
The quality of the reception is a killer, i'll tell you.
I bought a 3500mah battery from the same company, and it is trash.
are there any extended batteries that fit in an otterbox commuter case?

Juice Defender

Does anyone use it with their thrive? I just got my thrive today, absolutely love it, plugged it in and charged it, I'm not worried about battery life, just wondering if anyone else uses it. Also what are your settings if you do use it?
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Using Juice Defender
I have it on mine and it works like a charm. I'm typically a pretty heavy user (web, videos, etc...) and I was getting maybe an average of about 6 hours of use before I would hit that magic "15%" of battery life remaining that told me I needed get some A/C action going. After installing Juice Defender and getting it configured (that took a couple of days of tweaking settings) correctly for the way I use my Thrive I started getting slightly over 7 hours. It is not a huge increase but it works for me.
So even without jd I'm getting pretty awesome battery stats, now this is including standby and what not, but I've been using this pretty much on and off for the past few days and I've been getting well over 24 hours of use before having to plug it in, is anyone else getting this?
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Nope, I'm not getting that.

Juice defender

I finally tried juice defender and within 5 minutes of enabling it got a LOS and before that I was on xda and market and it wouldn't load anything. I had it on balanced settings. Any one else experience this? After all I read it does t seem like it does anything more than disables 3g data when your screens off. I don't use wifi or blue tooth so that doesnt matter to me. Uhg this app frusterates me
I have no problems with this at all. I bought the ultimate to use all its features and it does increase my battery life by 3 hours max. Ive tried it on all the settings, Balance, Advance and Extreme and never had an LoS problem with it.
I have heard Green Power Pro is better but I don't use either atm
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Juice defender has been a saving grace. I got a LOS the first time I used it but not once since. My battery is lasting a stupid long time. I mean it takes my phone a hr to go from 99 to 98%
I'm gonna wait to root.the only reason I want to root is for customization.coming from the
Evo which was a killer phone to have due to all the roms that were out for it.
Every time I flashed, it was like getting a brand new phone.I'm just not seeing the
support for this phone that the evo had.this phone unrooted is still an awesome phone.
I too need a reason to root.hope some killer roms come out sooner than later.
Thanks for the feed back guys! Is there a program that tell me what programs are using the most cpu and shows graphs and battery % a hour of usage statustics/
BetterBatteryStats
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
Just installed juice defender this morning. No los so far on balanced settings

[TIP]Increase battery life by at least 50%

Here is a tip on how to increase battery life by at least 50%. For me, it has increased by 83%, given that my S II is relatively new (3 months old). It is an app in the market which you can get for free: JuiceDefender
MUST:
Remove any task killing apps (Advanced Task Killer) otherwise this app is useless as it needs to be on at all times.
I have my settings set to Aggressive, as I don't use my phone much during the day.
My normal on the Bombaridier v3.5 ROM by TricH was 100% at 7:00 AM and 88% at 10:23 AM with only 40 minutes of music and standby with no data connection or Wi-Fi. With JuiceDefender, I get 100% at 7:00 AM and 98% at 10:23 AM with the same circumstances of use. It is worth downloading and will extend battery life. I have 83% more battery life according to my math (which is (10/12)=(x/100)) and it is amazing.
I agree that JuiceDefender is an excellent product for extending battery life.
I have the "Ultimate" version.
JuiceDefender alongside "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" is the killer combination...
I did notice one slight bug with JuiceDefender (JD) - there's a known issue with wifi management. Phone turns itself off occasionally. The fix is to simply set JD "disabled" for WiFi management - problem then goes away.
I also listen to music (Pandora) over a Bluetooth headset (about 3 hours per day).
I regularly get about 18hrs+ (combination, on average: 3 hours on voice, lots of email). Stock, rooted ROM... bloat removed.
I agree Juice defender is purely amazing, according to JD stats, I get 1.83% more battery life, that's with aggressive settings.
Ps: Thanks for the Wifi tip
It'll be hard pressed for any app to extend my 3+ days of usage on a single charge. Just sayin..
I just bought the ultimate. I will let everyone know how it goes after a week of using it.
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8Fishes said:
It'll be hard pressed for any app to extend my 3+ days of usage on a single charge. Just sayin..
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That's not called usage. That's just carrying a weight around with you. I'm sorry but you're not getting 72 hours on a single charge.
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avarize said:
That's not called usage. That's just carrying a weight around with you. I'm sorry but you're not getting 72 hours on a single charge.
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Beat me to it
avarize said:
That's not called usage. That's just carrying a weight around with you. I'm sorry but you're not getting 72 hours on a single charge.
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The first thing that came to mind is; haters gotta hate.
I use it just fine with my purposes.
Check/write emails, make calls. Nifty info widgets for updates. I just don't use it for everything because that's just silly. That's the reason why I get such a long run-time. I already have a dedicated media device, no need to watch videos, etc etc on the phone.
Just because most people don't get more than a day usage, don't mean it doesn't happen.
GaryAustin said:
I agree that JuiceDefender is an excellent product for extending battery life.
I have the "Ultimate" version.
JuiceDefender alongside "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" is the killer combination...
I did notice one slight bug with JuiceDefender (JD) - there's a known issue with wifi management. Phone turns itself off occasionally. The fix is to simply set JD "disabled" for WiFi management - problem then goes away.
I also listen to music (Pandora) over a Bluetooth headset (about 3 hours per day).
I regularly get about 18hrs+ (combination, on average: 3 hours on voice, lots of email). Stock, rooted ROM... bloat removed.
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whoa 18+ with 3hours voice is killer.
i barely get about 16 with 2.5 voice and roughly 2.5 display on time
just fyi to those who don't know. voice weighs heaviest on battery usage, even more so than display.
I can get 2 days with moderate use but I dont realy tLk on the phone and I use wifi most of the time
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Seems to me that most people who use this app set to Aggressive, get around 83% more battery life. Amazing app and my math was on point.
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will definitely try this out! thanks for the tip!
on a side note, has anyone tried to undervolt and underclock? if so, which is the best program for this? i am using setcpu but doesn't seem to allow voltage tweaks. with JD and undervolting, i can only imagine what type of battery life this would have
8Fishes said:
The first thing that came to mind is; haters gotta hate.
I use it just fine with my purposes.
Check/write emails, make calls. Nifty info widgets for updates. I just don't use it for everything because that's just silly. That's the reason why I get such a long run-time. I already have a dedicated media device, no need to watch videos, etc etc on the phone.
Just because most people don't get more than a day usage, don't mean it doesn't happen.
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Not trying to "hate" Just don't see it getting 72 hours. I'd like to see some screen caps of that if it's somehow possible with any use.
chhan02 said:
will definitely try this out! thanks for the tip!
on a side note, has anyone tried to undervolt and underclock? if so, which is the best program for this? i am using setcpu but doesn't seem to allow voltage tweaks. with JD and undervolting, i can only imagine what type of battery life this would have
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Use the Darkside X kernel and under clock to 1128000 or something and it still runs smooth.
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Best thing you can do to to increase battery life is to disable all those Google services. I don't know why but I make it pretty clear in the settings that I do not want any auto-update or syncing of any sort but it happens anyway, so I have to manually freeze all the **** that Google insists on running 24/7.
Thanks for the tip! Extra battery life is always welcome.
Although jd isn't exactly new, but there seems to be a lot of people who just heard of it now. Not bashing but this just shows that there seems to be a lot of new android users or well xda members since the release of our awesome device. I bet most are all former ifags (don't take me seriously).
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Teo032 said:
Although jd isn't exactly new, but there seems to be a lot of people who just heard of it now. Not bashing but this just shows that there seems to be a lot of new android users or well xda members since the release of our awesome device. I bet most are all former ifags (don't take me seriously).
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Lmao. I think this made my day. xD I was using juice defender way back when the droid eris was new and I still do! It works wonders. When I had a dell streak I went from 6-8 hrs of batt life with no usage to over 2 days.
Sorry if I sound like a tool for asking this but if you turn off the Google gmail and calender sync then how do you get your emails?
U have to manually check for mail all the time?
sorry, having issues with my battery also. I use Juice Defender but the free version - everyone that is having success with it are you using the purchase one, Juice Defender Ultimate?
Ive had my phone since october, and the battery has gotten better and better. And im not doing anything special, stock rom, no juice defender, no task killer, nothing of that sort.
I use wifi tether almost all day at work(about 6 to 8 hours) and I still have 20 to 30 percent left when i head home.

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