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Juice defender any good?

I am using chads incredikernel with HAVS and i was wondering if. Juice defender would be of any help. I with typical use my. Battery gets to 30 by 7 or 8, and sometimes I cant charge it until 11. By then it's basically dead. So i am looking for ways to improve battery. I have the think 2500mwh battery.
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Towards the end of the day when I hit around 20% I turn off 3g. With 3g off I can get 2 hours out of every percent if I use it like a normal phone... calls and texts.
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I use Juice Defender(paid version) and love it. It's a great app! I have noticed since using it that my battery goes way farther than without it. If you get the free version, you will probably not see the gains as well. I'm using the stock battery and get close to 2 days on a charge with moderate use; internet, phone, angry birds, and etc..

I used to use the paid version of juice defender. I stopped using it because every day my phone got slower and slower, and then i disabled JD and my phone was slick again. It's a great app and it really did improve my battery a lot, but the fact that it made my phone quite slow sucked.

Extended battery lasting only a day

I have a 2800mah yoobao battery and its only lasting me about 18-20 hours...but a guy on youtube shows hes easily getting 2-3 days on his phone. I moderately use this phone with black backround...wifi enabled gps bluetooth and everything else i can disabled...and i have app killer and juice defender why is this battery not lasting long

Well first those ebay 2800mah batterys are more like 2100-2500mah. Second that guy on youtube did some black screen tricks and some other things to get 3 days. I wouldnt use any app managment programs unless you have 10 things that want to startup,and juice defender just isnt a good way to save battery unless you always have a bad signal,when you have a great signal very little battery life is used by the radio.
But I just posted some great numbers using the seido 3300mah battery,and I actually used this phone plenty during the tests...
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Like ecooce mentioned, those batteries aren't generally as good as they claim. But I can't answer your question until you answer a few more to the best of you ability:
1. Are you using a ROM? What ROM?
2. The "guy" on youtube was definitely using a ROM, what ROM was he using?
3. How long does your phone last on your stock Samsung 1500 mah battery, for reference?
4. How many and which widgets do you use?
5. Do you have poor signal and frequent roaming? Do you use Roam Control to rectify the constant signal searching?
6. Is your task killer an auto killer?
Answer me, and I'll answer you

well im not using a rom... i want to try to find the best rom for a extended battery. and i dont use any widgets just a clock one. i get about 10-12 hours on the regular battery if im lucky...im gettin about 18-20 on this one...i jus think i could get more

and yes i have roam control and i use task killer

ddizzy81 said:
well im not using a rom... i want to try to find the best rom for a extended battery. and i dont use any widgets just a clock one. i get about 10-12 hours on the regular battery if im lucky...im gettin about 18-20 on this one...i jus think i could get more
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OK, this is simple math...1500mAh battery is stock, you get 10-12 hours. 2800 mAh battery is only 87% higher which equals 18-20 hours. This is only true if it is a true 2800 mAh battery...so count your blessings.

ddizzy81 said:
well im not using a rom... i want to try to find the best rom for a extended battery. and i dont use any widgets just a clock one. i get about 10-12 hours on the regular battery if im lucky...im gettin about 18-20 on this one...i jus think i could get more
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Well you can try the Syndicate Rom Frozen I'm on, it's referenced in my signature. Only use your task killer manually. On auto-kill it will use battery to constantly run, and will kill services which immediately restart anyway. I use Advanced Task Killer manually by its widget, which, combined with my Power Control widget, are the only two widgets I have confirmed are not battery drains. This includes Pandora, Music player, Wifi Tether , Tesla Flashlight, and ES Task Manager widgets.
Moving on, Low brightness when possible, Google Sync off, unnecessary apps found to be running in the background removed. Google Wifi and GPS locations off, you want none of that. DRM and SNS services frozen by Titanium Pro or MyBackup Pro if unneeded (yes those apps are not free, but worth it!). Mostly black wallpapers use less power due to the nature of Super AMOLED screens (the pixels are effectively off when black). Do not use Juice Defender. VisionKernel 1.1 may be helpful. Do not use setcpu, stick with the Dev's stock settings, I'm sure you'll be happy :-D.
If I think of any major steps I've taken that I'm forgetting I'll be back lol. I think I may end up making a new thread on this with a list of my steps and setup.

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Like ecooce mentioned, those batteries aren't generally as good as they claim. But I can't answer your question until you answer a few more to the best of you ability:
1. Are you using a ROM? What ROM?
2. The "guy" on youtube was definitely using a ROM, what ROM was he using?
3. How long does your phone last on your stock Samsung 1500 mah battery, for reference?
4. How many and which widgets do you use?
5. Do you have poor signal and frequent roaming? Do you use Roam Control to rectify the constant signal searching?
6. Is your task killer an auto killer?
Answer me, and I'll answer you
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Well I'm that guy on youtube abd I believe I at that time I was on syadicateROM Froyo with a 1.3Mhz OC'd Kernal...now what saves on most of my battery life is underclocking while the screen is off to a max speed of only 600mhz...since about 75% of the time your screen is off...those numbers were for about the 1st 3 months with the battery....now I'm averaging from at least 30 hours to around 50 sometimes 60...but no more 3+ day stretches...and I make sure to condition my battery on a regular basis...because I did go through a major sump in performance jut like you are with around only 18 or so hours...a few (like 3) calibrations got me right back up to where I was at with hours unplugged....I think I talked about this in one of my video's...hope this helps fellas
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When I switched to ec05, my battery life went to crap. I now have the yoobao 2800 and with syndicate frozen and a few tweaks I now get around 24 hours moderate to heavy usage. 48 hours or more with light/idle usage.
On the other hand I'm lucky to get 8 hours out of my stock battery with light usage. I can literally sit and watch the srf battery meter draining every minute the screen is on. I'm thinking my stock battery may have gone bad.
The extended battery makes my phone huge. But theres nothing better than being at a conference talking on the phone constantly and still having 30% left at the end of the evening. While all the other evo's n blackberries n such are crying that their phones are dying by happy hour...

I'm not a heavy user, but I regularly get 30+ hours with 2.5 - 3 hours of screen on time off of a 1500MAH battery using SRF frozen.
You could have one of several issues:
1. Gallery app sensor issue.
2. Airplane toggle issue
3. phone not sleeping properly.
Any of them can severely impact battery life. If you look at your screen on time and you are regualrly at 2-3 hours screen on time in 12 hours then that is about right I would say.

I am a light to medium user and I get 40-55 hours of life out of my extended grant you my back ground is mostly black. Only widget I run is sense analog glass clock which pulls the weather every 15 minutes, I have task killer auto kill on, set cpu set to ondemand 10000 and 1000 which I believe is stock I was playing with it for a few still am (I just modified this to 13000 - 1000 set to performance so stay tuned for a update), Avg, wifi is usually on i forget to shut it off and gps is always on. I am using Frozen 1.1 with Vision kernal 1.1. Hope this helps. Don't forget to calibrate your battery I found that it does help to let it drain fully once after the calibration.
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Update well I have been testing since I first posted I am now getting about 18-24 hours but my usage has gone way up to high like 200 to 400 txt a day plus now using winamp cuz my music player died. Playing music for over 2 hours a day also poor signal strength at home so always have wifi on. Not sure what modem I am using not sure how to find that out either. Also my Setcpu is set to 1300 - 100 ondemand it didn't like having any other setting. I also turned journaling on which might not help the battery life.

EC05 suck your battery? Flash the EB13 modem. http://k0nane.info/rom/acs-eb13-modem.tar

I have this same battery and I have google and AOL email syncing every 30minutes, brightness on full, 6-7 widgets, 3 of which run constantly, and usually have pandora running most of the day, spotty signal, and data on all day...
I get 52-58 hours every charge with all this running, and an average of 4-6hours screen on time...
Also, when I put it on the charger i never let my battery get below 12% usually it goes back on after 55hours @ 16-21% left
Maybe I am lucky?
Running AOSP rom

ur lucky...cuz i have had this battery for about 2 weeks now and im starting to get about 24-26 hours of life...maybe the battery needs to be broken in cuz its increasing

[Q] How to super Optimized Tmo Sammy S2 for best battery performace?

So I switched from the iphone with edge to the Tmo S2 with Jugg 5.0 ROM + Go Launcher. I really appreciate the 4g speed. However, the overall experience is not as smooth as the iphone and the battery life sucks big time. I normally have to constantly plug the phone in whenever I can. It works ok when I'm at work but when I'm out all day my battery won't last more than half a day. It's so bad to the extent that I have to turn off my phone and turn on when I need to call or text so I can keep the phone alive the whole day. I tried Juice Defender but it didn't help my battery at all.
Yesterday I spent a few hours on XDA and I came up with these solution to my battery problem:
+DarkSide Digital Warfare v2.7 ROM (couldn't find 2.5.1 version)
+Flash Synergy Kernel over (supposed to give better battery)
+SetCPU app (auto detection)
+Zeam launcher
So far, it seems to be better on the battery. Is there anything else I could add to make my battery last longer? I need the phone to last at least the whole day without charge. I'm constantly on 4g looking up stocks, reading news, email, google voice, grooveip, facebook, turn by turn navigation, music, netflix, youtube ...
Thanks,

Welcome to Android.
From what it appears, you seem to be a heavy user. The most you can get out of a Android device with heavy usage is 3/4 of a day (14-18hrs) tops.
You have 2 choices, either you travel with the power cord not to far away and plug it when you need it or you invest a whooping 10$ and buy another battery.
There are tricks to keeping your battery healthy but lasting all day as a heavy user will be very difficult.

If this is a new phone it takes a week or so for the battery to settle in a hold a charge well. After a week or so you'll notice your battery is lasting longer. Also make sure that nothing is keeping your phone awake 100%. Some apps don't play nice and cause issues. Welcome to Android.
Note: navigation kills battery fast, when your using it try to plug into a car charger or something.
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There are a lot of things you can do to improve battery.
1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
etc etc.
Those are the main things that I tend to do. I plug my phone in every night before I go to bed as well so I am not sure how long my battery actually lasts. But typically after 16hrs of use I still have 60% battery when I go to bed.
Currently my phone has been on for 7hrs 15mins and I have 87% battery. So you can do the math. I am not as heavy a user as you seem to be, but hope this helps. Peace.

Check out this video it helps show you how to save battery. Enjoy!

Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
Chochiwpg said:
1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
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I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.

DroidNo0b said:
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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You could run Juggernaut with Faux Kernel and Gideon's battery scripts. Or Telus T989D stock ROM lightly tweaked with same kernel and script. Got good results on those as well. Good luck.

Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,

Use fox star rom
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DroidNo0b said:
Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one

Gideon's scripts are great with Juggs. Underclock it as well like 384-1080 is a great setting. Also let die all the way down and charge all the way up and repeat for a few cycles. And don't stare at your phone every few seconds either lol! Another thing are the notification lighting buttons at the bottom. Drop to 1.5 seconds.
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yoft1 said:
If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
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I have the extended 3800mah battery. It's insanely fat and makes the phone look hideous. On top of that I really don't feel like the battery lasts all that long at all. It's in my pocket all day at school and by 3:30 I'm at 35%. This thing cost me 65$. Total ripoff. I'd suggest spending 20$ and buying two more regular batteries. See what that does for you all
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A few things you can do on ANY ROM to improve battery life.
*) Decrease screen timeout to the lowest possible setting.
*) Adjust screen brightness to the lowest level you can tolerate.
*) Decrease the backlight key timeout to the lowest setting ( or off if you have the option )
*) Be sure to only have wifi and gps on if you are using them.
Those will help quite a bit in general however, a ROM like Juggs is meant to really take advantage of the power of your device so its probably wise to move to a different one if max battery is your goal. I love Juggs but had to move on to the AOSP stuff. Also, heed the advice above, allow the ROM a few days to "settle" before making a switch or even a judgement of its performance.

Thanks for the replies guys. So my phone lasted for 9hrs today which is a little bit of improvement. I was streaming netflix for half an hr on the train on the way back home so that may have drained the battery. I have just installed JD, will post back how it goes tomorrow.
So the extended battery is a no go eh. I really don't want to lug around a few extra batteries. I want to carry as little as possible. I normally carry my phone and my ipad but now I tend to not use the ipad much now because the S2 screen is pretty gigantic for a phone.

DroidNo0b said:
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.

tablador said:
I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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If you read my post above. I'm against the idea lugging around too many things. It's also a hassle to swap the battery and keep them all charged. I may be a heavy user but it's not like I use the phone all the time. I use the phone heavily early in the morning on the way to work and after 5pm on the way home after work. The commute each way is roughly 45 mins. In between the commutes i make a few calls and texts through GV. I don't think i'm that of a really heavy user.
Anyway, it's noon and I'm at 75% with JD on and setCPU to 384-1084mhz which is pretty promising.

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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.

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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Don't you think it is ironic for me to switch from the iphone to the S2 because I couldn't stand the slow 2g Edge connection then have to lower data speed to GSM (2g) just so I can use the S2 long enough?
I think the S2 is one heck of a device but the OS and Apps are not running very efficiently.
I tried the ICS ROM ARKSIDE.UCLE2:: x[BETA07.1] in the last 2 days with setCPU at 384-1026Mhz. I have had great battery life. I got home at 12 am yesterday with a 2% battery. Today it's been 7 hrs on battery and my battery is at 70%. I don't know if it is the ROM, setCPU or a combination of the two but I'm pretty happy with the phone right now. ICS is awesome too.
I highly recommend that solution to anyone having a short battery life problem with their S2.

It is a little ironic since you did bring up the comparison. What I was attempting to do was to bring the phone more into spec of an iphone to get similar battery life. You're probably going to even get better runtimes due to the battery having a much larger capacity and better screen technology. All that superior hardware packed in the t989 is going to need more juice to run.
It's great you're getting good runtimes now. From my personal experience, once I drop down to the single digit percentages, it starts lasting a lot longer per percent. If you wanted to squeeze all you can from the device, those 2000mah aftermarket cells might add another 15~30 minutes.

Severe battery drain - Juice Defender problem?

My wife and I have this phone. A few weeks ago I installed Juice Defender (free) on mine and so far it's working remarkably well. Last night I installed it on my wife's phone and the battery level dropped precipitously. She wasn't using the phone much (if at all) and eventually plugged it in to charge it up. After fully charging, the phone wasn't used - overnight it just sat on the kitchen counter and the battery went from 100% to 17%. Never had this problem with my phone and can't figure out what the deal is. Does Juice Defender have a weird reaction under certain settings or installed apps that I don't know about?

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My wife and I have this phone. A few weeks ago I installed Juice Defender (free) on mine and so far it's working remarkably well. Last night I installed it on my wife's phone and the battery level dropped precipitously. She wasn't using the phone much (if at all) and eventually plugged it in to charge it up. After fully charging, the phone wasn't used - overnight it just sat on the kitchen counter and the battery went from 100% to 17%. Never had this problem with my phone and can't figure out what the deal is. Does Juice Defender have a weird reaction under certain settings or installed apps that I don't know about?
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I have exactly the same issue? you get anywhere with this?

Thats strange... I was planning on installing JD myself after a couple of days without it to get a good baseline. Anyone know what the deal is?

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Thats strange... I was planning on installing JD myself after a couple of days without it to get a good baseline. Anyone know what the deal is?
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I installed it one of the first days I got my LGOG, before it was rooted or unlocked and it killed my battery. I went through everything within the app and couldn't figure it out at all. Next step would be to contact the dev to see if he has any ideas.

Why not just use the builtin methods to save your battery?
Assimilated using the interface that interacts with the advanced internet.

I think I'm getting decent battery life with juice defender on
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Man listen you do not need addon software to save your battery. It's useless! You do not need any software or app to save battery life! It's like me using pc with norton protection LOL. Turn your sync off.

I've been using jd since the day I got my phone... No battery drain problems. I have my settings on a semi frequent sync schedule (30mins) and can get about 1.5-2 days if I let the battery get close to 0. Check your settings... Both in jd and not.
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I never partook in using these seemingly useless apps. From what I have seen over the years, these apps cannot really differentiate what processes need to run for system stability versus what is just eating up RAM and metaphorically killing the battery. I have never had success using battery saving or task managing apps, as they eventually always proved counterintuitive.
Want better battery life? Turn on Eco mode; lower your screen display; keep Wifi, NFC, and bluetooth off when not in use; and turn your vibration completely off.

JD does bring a few features you can't find in the native settings - I use it mostly to lower the screen brightness below the lowest built in setting for usage at night, as well as to quickly turn on data when I turn the screen on, and intelligently choose which type of data to connect to.
I think the main value is that I can get the best performance out of my phone (all cores, bluetooth constantly on so it connects instantly in the car, nfc on demand) when I am using it, and battery savings when I'm not. It's a very powerful tool, as long as you know how to configure it! It takes some tweaking but it's worth it.
That said, I'd contact the developers to see if you can send them some kind of log file to see what could be going on with the battery drain... They might be able to help, though JD seems to be out of active development.
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[APP] Juice Defender - HUGE help for extending battery.

I downloaded and installed Juicedefender ultimate.... For the first time in quite some time, I was still at 50% battery after 8 hours of regular usage.
It'll turn off wifi and turn off data when the phone's sleeping and only sync when the phone is turned on or by schedule ( I set mine to every 15mins).
It's worked great for preserving battery life on my phone when using Dman's PACMAN 18.2.

And this is with the stock battery?
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Try this one too...Dev'd here (XDA)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030696
This one gives me 2 solid days of use with extended battery.
Couldn't believe how quickly battery died without & how long it seems to last with.
Plus the guy's on here. Support local talent.
Even gives "Pro" free to XDAer's.

yes stock battery .. the other day I was at 30% after 15 hours ..
Juice defender actually memorizes where you are (somehow) and will turn wifi on in my house and this other site i go to where the signal is weak .. just auto switches it on for me when the screen wakes up, really really great app.
This other one above, i tried the version off of the store but juice defender kicked its ass ... Soooo many features in JD its a bit confusing in areas to setup, but the battery life is by far worth the cost of the pro app. Ill try the Battery Saver app that MoodSwinger posted above, see if theres a big diff or not.