[Q] sense 2.5 default message window - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I don't know if this has been covered, I've looked. But here's my question.
I have a Tilt II with WM 6.5 and HTC Sense 2.5 (I'm pretty sure Manilla 2.5.20133329.2.) I like Sense (after applying several tweaks and cabs to make it more user friendly), but I have a couple of points that drive me bonkers:
1) When I depress the Messages Tab, it brings me to (an HTC) screen. This screen will display a text message i may have gotten two weeks ago. Or yesterday, it seems to be random. It's not even the last text received, which would make some sense at least. I have to tap the screen to open the thread and see the last message received (if it even was from that person). Or I can press "All Messages" and see where the new message is. Why? Why doesn't it go to All messages right away, or better yet, to the most recent text/thread received? Why do I have to get sent to this lame screen first? HOW CAN I CHANGE IT?!?
2) Same with Email Tab, but at least it shows me the emails received. How can I get it to go to the WM Inbox instead of the stupid 3D Sense window?
Basically, Sense messaging was coded by somebody who seems to have no idea what makes Sense. (haha)
Are there cabs or registry tweaks that will automatically take me to the windows messaging formats when I choose one of these Tabs?
Thanx!

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Any way to review all messages in Message Tab?

hi Guys
I was wondering whether there is a way to review all messages in the Message Tab?
It shows the last message that was received and i have to finger scroll up and down to see all the messages. Moreover, it doesn't show me all the sent messages too, so trying to figure out what the message was related to has led to some confusing conversation.
Is there a way to show all the messages in the tab ? Tried looking for it on this search forum, but I wasn't able to find any, possibly due to the wrong keywords.
Thanks !
I'm assuming you mean in the TouchFlo 3D interface... It took me a while to stumble on this one myself (but it made sense thinking about the interface with other tabs), but you can go through the messages by dragging your finger up and down on the message on-screen. Dragging bottom-to-top goes backwards chronologically, and top-to-bottom goes forward.
Hope that helps.
thanks for the post.
Yeah i know that is how to go through the messages.
I was hoping i could see all messages displayed on the tab, instead of one message.
Is there a way to do this ?
I don't think that's possible, but you can tab on the message to open up the TF3D interface to view the conversation thread with the recipient, or click on All Messages (left softkey menu) to open the Windows Mobile interface to see the list of messages with various recipients.
Thanks for the reply.
That kinda is inconvenient. i would like to see all the new messages from different people, and i had already missed a few messages without thinking of going through the All Messages tab.
Wished there was a way to see all incoming new messages from different people at least.
Seeing as how it's still WM 6.1, I figured I'd just reuse all the old programs from my Wing. So I reinstalled the 750v palm threaded SMS program (which overwrites the current messaging app) and all was good in the world. Well, only somewhat...
Unfortunately, MMS no longer works which is really weird because it worked perfectly fine on my Wing. Now when I try to send a MMS, I keep getting the "Out of Memory" error. Oddly enough, I never got that error on the Wing... and it had a fraction of the memory compared to this beast.
Hopefully when 6.5 comes out, this can be resolved (or a program that automatically marks all your SMS's as read). Until then, the only solution I have been able to find has already been mentioned... and that's to manually swipe through each message. Sucks if you're a big texter since you can easily rack up tens (if not hundreds) of messages in a short period of time.
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately, i am a huge texter and i am loving the TP2. I could practically write an essay on it, and i won't feel like it is bogging me down.
Hence why i had "ignored" so many messages lol
With my Vodafone brnaded Touch Pro2 the left soft key is programmed to show "all messages" guess this is what you want but not sure how they managed it, I presume it is a reg edit. Maybe someone else knows which one.
Cheers
Barney
This is an interesting thread, as it highlights the design vs. functionality features of TF3D. As the author of this thread, me too would like to be able to see more than one message on the SMS tab and also have the option to have the reply go to the standard WM6.1 windows instead of the TF3D reply.
improwise said:
...and also have the option to have the reply go to the standard WM6.1 windows instead of the TF3D reply.
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You can already do this... kind of. When you go to the SMS tab, click left softkey for "All Messages." This will take you to the default SMS program you have on your phone (in my case, it will launch the Palm Threaded SMS). From here you can reply to any messages you have received. It takes a little longer to reply because you have to open the default SMS program then click the thread you want to reply to. Either way, it works.
Hope this helps!
Yeah I do heavy texting and emails but the touch flow 2d is really crappy. You can't even copy and paste!
I know I shouldn't say it but just simple think like the the safari web browser, sms messaging and big onscreen keypad is being missed on my iphone.
Maric said:
Yeah I do heavy texting and emails but the touch flow 2d is really crappy. You can't even copy and paste!
I know I shouldn't say it but just simple think like the the safari web browser, sms messaging and big onscreen keypad is being missed on my iphone.
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You can't copy and paste in the TP2 text program? Something I do every day on my Mogul? Geez, I really want this phone when it comes to Sprint, but that doesn't sound to good
TheBundo said:
You can't copy and paste in the TP2 text program? Something I do every day on my Mogul? Geez, I really want this phone when it comes to Sprint, but that doesn't sound to good
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Yeah it SMS on touchflo sucks bad. I am little weary with my purchase so far since I don't know I've run into a lot these little disappointments.
I guess I was spoiled by the iphone simple and clean interface. Even the dialpad seems kind of small and awkward to use. I am just hoping for some hardspl mods so I can see if this device can still woo me.
You CAN copy & paste from any SMS. Just open the message, or scroll down (if in threaded mode) to the item you want to copy, tap MENU, check SELECT TEXT, highlight the text, tap & hold then select copy.
It's 1 more step than before when I can simply highlight the text or number directly without having to tap menu. I guess the new TouchFlo 3D will have problems guessing if we want to highlight some text or scroll left/right when we slide our fingers across.
Putra said:
You CAN copy & paste from any SMS. Just open the message, or scroll down (if in threaded mode) to the item you want to copy, tap MENU, check SELECT TEXT, highlight the text, tap & hold then select copy.
It's 1 more step than before when I can simply highlight the text or number directly without having to tap menu. I guess the new TouchFlo 3D will have problems guessing if we want to highlight some text or scroll left/right when we slide our fingers across.
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When you said threaded mode, i am assuming you meant the Windows Mobile SMS app right ?
This is to clarify that the TF3D doesn't have the select text->cut and paste functionality but the Windows Mobile app does. You need to click on the left soft key "All messages" to bring up the Windows Mobile SMS screen, select the conversation, and you can then use Putra's instructions for text selection, copy and paste functionality.
Yes, in TF3D (or manila 2d), you can only read 1 sms at a time and limited to reply, forward & delete.
If you want to copy & paste, you need to open the Win Mob SMS application as outlined by btong1978

Anyway to fix this dual texting crap?

Delete.
One's man burden is another man's blessing!
Most folks seem to hate the threaded SMS which you like, for reasons including that you get such a tiny little area to see what you've typed, plus you don't have the option of adding other recipients.
I'm not trying to get into a debate about it .. just hoping to point out that there is more than one solution to your problem of "dual texting crap": I haven't seen any tweaks to embrace the nice new interface, but here is one for killing it and sticking with the tried and tested 30 year old way ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373681
BTW .. a bonus is that once you have applied this, you can easily change your mind later and simply go and toggle the value between 0 and 1 without rebooting the device
Hope this helps
I have to agree with vin5cent0, I bl**dy hate the WM SMS reply interface. It's _so_ ugly. I don't care for threaded SMS's though.
Maybe you'd like Vito SMS-Chat, vin5cent0?
I prefer the TF3d threaded interface over the windows mobile interface as well. However it only appears accessable by replying to a message on the messaging tab in TF3d. Any new message or other way of replying to a message brings up the older WM interface. I would like be able to use the TF3d threaded interface for all the ways you can send a text.
This is the first i've seen someone wanting to actually embrace the TF3d message interface. It's woefully inferior to the WM one for the following reasons:
1.) Lack of character counter for sending message
2.) No support for signatures
3.) Phone numbers aren't clickable
4.) URL's aren't clickable
5.) Stupid Soft Key for Sent isn't the same as WM messaging program and is back (without confirmation) instead of send resulting in lost messages
6.) Reply to: screen / threaded view TERRIBLY SLOW when you have a lot of messages - we're talking 10 seconds pauses sometimes when pulling it up or replying (I imported all my SMS from my old phone so I have 9k text messages currently...)
I'll take functionally over "prettiness" any day. If they can fix these issues, I'd use it again I suppose. For now I'm using the "zoom sms" hack to disable the TF3d reply to interface and it goes to the WM instead.

Remapping Message double tap to take me to SMS in Manila 2.1

Hello all. First time poster, long time reader. I've got myself a Touch Pro 2 on VZW running the feb. 10th version of mighty rom. I have just one tiny problem with this rom, and also with the standard rom. When I double tap a text message from Manila, it opens said message in Manila's text messaging program. What I want to know is does anyone know of a way to tweak the registry or manila itself to allow for the double tap of a text message to bring me into windows mobile's text messaging sms program?
I apologize mods if this is in the wrong place, feel free to move it to the right one. I also searched for about a half an hour and could not find a resolution to my problem.
Thank you all in advance.
Brian

Remapping Message double tap to take me to Windows Mobile's SMS and not Manila 2.1's

Hello all. First time poster, long time reader. I've got myself a Touch Pro 2 on VZW running the feb. 10th version of mighty rom. I have just one tiny problem with this rom, and also with the standard rom. When I double tap a text message from Manila, it opens said message in Manila's text messaging program. What I want to know is does anyone know of a way to tweak the registry or manila itself to allow for the double tap of a text message to bring me into windows mobile's text messaging sms program?
I apologize mods if this is in the wrong place, feel free to move it to the right one. I also searched for about a half an hour and could not find a resolution to my problem.
Thank you all in advance.
Brian

Basic customization for TF3D home screen

Using:
HTC Tilt2 (AT&T)
Stock ROM
Manila 2.1 tf3d (not sense ui)
Is there any simple way (via editing xml code or a .cab) to add notifications to the home screen of the touchflo 3D? I really dislike both the sms and email tabs and want to remove them, but need to know when an account has a new email.
Alternatively, is there a way to make the tabs display the # of NEW messages, rather than Unread messages? If so, I could just use the tabs for notification, and otherwise ignore them...
I have been searching a reading until my head hurts, but I just cant seem to find the right key words to get the info I need. Thanks for any help...
Ok, maybe a complicated way, then?
After looking through all of the xml files on this device, there does not appear to be one that controls the main "home" tab of the touchflo 3d interface. At least, not one that I can make any sense of (there are several that are just numbers/letters grouped in 4s through most of the document)...
So... What type of file should I be looking for, and how to edit it?
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What I think I know about the xml files:
att_tabitems.xml -> all of the elements on the att tab of the touchflo ui.
default_contacts.xml -> speed dial
ha_skin_*.xml -> photos and videos tab of touchflow ui
internet_portal-en-US.xml -> top half of internet touchflo ui
StreamingPlayer*.xml -> music tab of the touchflow ui
There's also a few obvious ones for other program's, like the calculator, settings for pop mail... etc
They are manila files.
I did a quick search and i found this... not sure if it will work though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611346
cbeck said:
Using:
HTC Tilt2 (AT&T)
Stock ROM
Manila 2.1 tf3d (not sense ui)
Is there any simple way (via editing xml code or a .cab) to add notifications to the home screen of the touchflo 3D? I really dislike both the sms and email tabs and want to remove them, but need to know when an account has a new email.
Alternatively, is there a way to make the tabs display the # of NEW messages, rather than Unread messages? If so, I could just use the tabs for notification, and otherwise ignore them...
I have been searching a reading until my head hurts, but I just cant seem to find the right key words to get the info I need. Thanks for any help...
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How would the phone discern which messages are unread as opposed to which is new? They are essentially the same thing. Good luck with finding that one.
All new messages are unread... but all unread aren't new (but "new" being as you haven't read them so, in a sense, all unread messages are new... yeah haha have fun with that.)
Not quite, I think...
brent372 said:
They are manila files.
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I've looked at all of the manila files with the manila editor (literally every single one)... they all seem to be just images. Am I missing something here?
Edit: Yes, I'm a blooming dope. The manila editor was filtering for just graphic files. opening in mode9 editor allows me to see file types. There are 4 types of manila files: mode9, lua, xml, and graphic files. Haven't figured out what yet, but the file 590ad244_manila seems to be the xml file controling the home screen. Not sure how far I can get with just the xml (as there are also lua and mode9 files associated w/ the home screen, but I'll be giving it a go over the next bit
macaraballojr said:
I did a quick search and i found this... not sure if it will work though
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Thanks, but that thread says it is for "sense", and that seems to be different than the 2.1 tf3d "manila"... at least based on post 3 of this thread
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676139*.
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That is exactly what I am looking for though.
Any chance that information is wrong and I actually have sense 2.1? I read elsewhere that if the slider icons were black/white, it's not sense, colored icons, it is. Can't seem to find that info anywhere right now though.
Thanks for the help so far, I really do hope you all can help me sort my muddled noob confusion out here.
*Sorry, had to remove the http bit from the link to the post. for some reason the forum is calling that an outside link and not allowing it.
buru898 said:
How would the phone discern which messages are unread as opposed to which is new? They are essentially the same thing. Good luck with finding that one.
All new messages are unread... but all unread aren't new (but "new" being as you haven't read them so, in a sense, all unread messages are new... yeah haha have fun with that.)
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Well, I have ~102 unread messages on my gmail account (I suscribe to several linux lists- i know, cut back) and 4 unread messages on my outlook. In TF3D UI, the message tab says 99+. If I switch to stock Windows Mobile 6.5 (titaniun), on the email slider it just says "1", because there has only been one message received since the last time I went to the email interface and opened those accounts. This has been the default behaviour of all of my previous WinMo devices (always WinMo standard, before now).

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