hi Guys
I was wondering whether there is a way to review all messages in the Message Tab?
It shows the last message that was received and i have to finger scroll up and down to see all the messages. Moreover, it doesn't show me all the sent messages too, so trying to figure out what the message was related to has led to some confusing conversation.
Is there a way to show all the messages in the tab ? Tried looking for it on this search forum, but I wasn't able to find any, possibly due to the wrong keywords.
Thanks !
I'm assuming you mean in the TouchFlo 3D interface... It took me a while to stumble on this one myself (but it made sense thinking about the interface with other tabs), but you can go through the messages by dragging your finger up and down on the message on-screen. Dragging bottom-to-top goes backwards chronologically, and top-to-bottom goes forward.
Hope that helps.
thanks for the post.
Yeah i know that is how to go through the messages.
I was hoping i could see all messages displayed on the tab, instead of one message.
Is there a way to do this ?
I don't think that's possible, but you can tab on the message to open up the TF3D interface to view the conversation thread with the recipient, or click on All Messages (left softkey menu) to open the Windows Mobile interface to see the list of messages with various recipients.
Thanks for the reply.
That kinda is inconvenient. i would like to see all the new messages from different people, and i had already missed a few messages without thinking of going through the All Messages tab.
Wished there was a way to see all incoming new messages from different people at least.
Seeing as how it's still WM 6.1, I figured I'd just reuse all the old programs from my Wing. So I reinstalled the 750v palm threaded SMS program (which overwrites the current messaging app) and all was good in the world. Well, only somewhat...
Unfortunately, MMS no longer works which is really weird because it worked perfectly fine on my Wing. Now when I try to send a MMS, I keep getting the "Out of Memory" error. Oddly enough, I never got that error on the Wing... and it had a fraction of the memory compared to this beast.
Hopefully when 6.5 comes out, this can be resolved (or a program that automatically marks all your SMS's as read). Until then, the only solution I have been able to find has already been mentioned... and that's to manually swipe through each message. Sucks if you're a big texter since you can easily rack up tens (if not hundreds) of messages in a short period of time.
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately, i am a huge texter and i am loving the TP2. I could practically write an essay on it, and i won't feel like it is bogging me down.
Hence why i had "ignored" so many messages lol
With my Vodafone brnaded Touch Pro2 the left soft key is programmed to show "all messages" guess this is what you want but not sure how they managed it, I presume it is a reg edit. Maybe someone else knows which one.
Cheers
Barney
This is an interesting thread, as it highlights the design vs. functionality features of TF3D. As the author of this thread, me too would like to be able to see more than one message on the SMS tab and also have the option to have the reply go to the standard WM6.1 windows instead of the TF3D reply.
improwise said:
...and also have the option to have the reply go to the standard WM6.1 windows instead of the TF3D reply.
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You can already do this... kind of. When you go to the SMS tab, click left softkey for "All Messages." This will take you to the default SMS program you have on your phone (in my case, it will launch the Palm Threaded SMS). From here you can reply to any messages you have received. It takes a little longer to reply because you have to open the default SMS program then click the thread you want to reply to. Either way, it works.
Hope this helps!
Yeah I do heavy texting and emails but the touch flow 2d is really crappy. You can't even copy and paste!
I know I shouldn't say it but just simple think like the the safari web browser, sms messaging and big onscreen keypad is being missed on my iphone.
Maric said:
Yeah I do heavy texting and emails but the touch flow 2d is really crappy. You can't even copy and paste!
I know I shouldn't say it but just simple think like the the safari web browser, sms messaging and big onscreen keypad is being missed on my iphone.
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You can't copy and paste in the TP2 text program? Something I do every day on my Mogul? Geez, I really want this phone when it comes to Sprint, but that doesn't sound to good
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You can't copy and paste in the TP2 text program? Something I do every day on my Mogul? Geez, I really want this phone when it comes to Sprint, but that doesn't sound to good
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Yeah it SMS on touchflo sucks bad. I am little weary with my purchase so far since I don't know I've run into a lot these little disappointments.
I guess I was spoiled by the iphone simple and clean interface. Even the dialpad seems kind of small and awkward to use. I am just hoping for some hardspl mods so I can see if this device can still woo me.
You CAN copy & paste from any SMS. Just open the message, or scroll down (if in threaded mode) to the item you want to copy, tap MENU, check SELECT TEXT, highlight the text, tap & hold then select copy.
It's 1 more step than before when I can simply highlight the text or number directly without having to tap menu. I guess the new TouchFlo 3D will have problems guessing if we want to highlight some text or scroll left/right when we slide our fingers across.
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You CAN copy & paste from any SMS. Just open the message, or scroll down (if in threaded mode) to the item you want to copy, tap MENU, check SELECT TEXT, highlight the text, tap & hold then select copy.
It's 1 more step than before when I can simply highlight the text or number directly without having to tap menu. I guess the new TouchFlo 3D will have problems guessing if we want to highlight some text or scroll left/right when we slide our fingers across.
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When you said threaded mode, i am assuming you meant the Windows Mobile SMS app right ?
This is to clarify that the TF3D doesn't have the select text->cut and paste functionality but the Windows Mobile app does. You need to click on the left soft key "All messages" to bring up the Windows Mobile SMS screen, select the conversation, and you can then use Putra's instructions for text selection, copy and paste functionality.
Yes, in TF3D (or manila 2d), you can only read 1 sms at a time and limited to reply, forward & delete.
If you want to copy & paste, you need to open the Win Mob SMS application as outlined by btong1978
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i changed my font size when i was texting someone and i don't know how i did it. it is now too small, and i want it a lil bigger. does anyone know how i can change the size in my text msgs?
also, i just got this phone. is htc going to send all pro2 users the update when oct comes around with the new system? or we **** out of luck?
thanks
1. Use the zoombar to change font size.
2. Yes, HTC will release WinMo 6.5 for TP2 users.
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1. Use the zoombar to change font size.
2. Yes, HTC will release WinMo 6.5 for TP2 users.
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i checked the menu and i see nothing for zoombar. this isn't for the browser that i am askign about. this is for my sms text msgs.
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i checked the menu and i see nothing for zoombar. this isn't for the browser that i am askign about. this is for my sms text msgs.
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I assume you are talking about the default WinMo Messaging app? The zoombar works as a font-size changer in that app.
Why are you looking in menus for zoombar? The zoombar is the part of your device between the screen and the 4 hardware buttons.
Wow didn't know that.
Just to confirm it does work as a font size changer, but only when focus is on the text editing area at the bottom.
If focus is still in the previous threaded messages then the zoom bar works as a scroll bar.
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I assume you are talking about the default WinMo Messaging app? The zoombar works as a font-size changer in that app.
Why are you looking in menus for zoombar? The zoombar is the part of your device between the screen and the 4 hardware buttons.
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i wasn't. you told me to look for zoombar. and i figure zooming had to be in the menu bar since thats how it is in alot of applications i use.
on a diff not, i tried to send a text msg like normal and hit the the 4 hardware buttons and it still does not change my font size. the reading pane window where old text msgs are is the area where i want to change the size.
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Wow didn't know that.
Just to confirm it does work as a font size changer, but only when focus is on the text editing area at the bottom.
If focus is still in the previous threaded messages then the zoom bar works as a scroll bar.
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how do i get it to focus? why can't htc put tips and **** like this in their phone manual? this is frustrating.
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i wasn't. you told me to look for zoombar. and i figure zooming had to be in the menu bar since thats how it is in alot of applications i use.
on a diff not, i tried to send a text msg like normal and hit the the 4 hardware buttons and it still does not change my font size. the reading pane window where old text msgs are is the area where i want to change the size.
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Haha, dude, I think you're losing me.
What's your "normal" way to send a text message? There are several ways: (1) via compose new, (2) via TF3D, (3) via the threaded view of the WinMo Messaging app.
Why are you hitting the 4 hardware buttons to change font size? (Call send, Call end, Windows key, and Back key are not going to help)
What's this "reading pane window" you are referring to?
What I'm trying to say is a picture is worth a thousand words. Going forward, if you want help with troubleshooting, post a screenshot.
But for your case, try this. Go to "Settings" tab in TF3D, tap "All Settings", go to "System" tab, tap "Screen", go to "Text Size" tab, and adjust the setting here.
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how do i get it to focus? why can't htc put tips and **** like this in their phone manual? this is frustrating.
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When a field is "in focus", that just means that it's active or that's where the cursor is. In fairness to HTC, I thought there manual was quite comprehensive. They've put just enough info to get someone who's not familiar with WinMo to be able to use the device.
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also, i just got this phone. is htc going to send all pro2 users the update when oct comes around with the new system?
thanks
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Well, I don't think they're going to SEND it to you. I'm sure it will be available on you're carrier's site, presuming the carrier releases there version in October.
I have just upgraded from a TyTN2/Kaiser to a new TP2/Rhodium running WM 6.1 .. and am enjoying the experience except for one fly in the ointment.
Text selection in certain apps is incredibly painful: using the stylus to select a portion of text is almost always interpreted as an attempt to drag-scroll the display. "Almost always" because if you time it properly, waiting a second or so and start dragging before the context menu pops up, then it sorta kinda works. But the selection seems to kick in quite some time AFTER beginning to drag, and therefore doesn't start at the beginning of the target. And Double-clicks (to select a whole word) no longer stretch word-for-word as I drag.
Most apps still work fine, but the following key apps suffer this annoying misbehaviour:
Contacts - But only the "Notes" tab. All text in the "Details" tab behaves as expected!
SMS texting - This occurs when selecting "Send Text Message" from a contact's Summary display (which is actually my preferred method as it is the quickest!). And it also occurs if you start an SMS from the messaging app via menu options Menu\New\SMS. But if you compose an SMS in the threaded view of a conversation in the same app, then the text selection is ok!
I can't find any posts by others who might be experiencing something similar, so is there a solution for this? A registry hack maybe? Am I the only one who has noticed this problem, or am I the only one who is annoyed so much by it?
Notes tab of Contacts app: I experience the same here. But it doesn't really bother me too much since I rarely have to select text here.
Messaging App: I didn't know you can select text like that (ie. tap and hold for a bit and drag) until you mentioned it! Anyway, if you want to select text here, you can always tap "Menu" and then "Select Text".
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Notes tab of Contacts app: I experience the same here. But it doesn't really bother me too much since I rarely have to select text here.
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I use the contact notes extensively, so it is extremely frustrating to have it compromised and complicated now (compared with TyTN2).
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Messaging App: I didn't know you can select text like that (ie. tap and hold for a bit and drag) until you mentioned it! Anyway, if you want to select text here, you can always tap "Menu" and then "Select Text".
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Ahh - thanks for that! Now if only i could find a way to keep that as the default
** UPDATE **
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I just noticed that everything works properly .. if and only if you use "My Mobiler" to remotely control the phone. So you can use your mouse and your desktop monitor to drag select text in the above compromised apps (including Active Tasks by the way) .. and everything will be fine.
But when it come to using the stylus on the phone's touch-screen directly, the selection still misbehaves!!
This is not a workaround, just mentioning it in the hope that it might help someone enlightened enough to be able to piece the puzzle together
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85583
Here's a solution to your problems.
digitaliceblast said:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85583
Here's a solution to your problems.
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Thanks, but i'm not sure how exactly does it solve the problem? If you mean the post by orlandojumpoff (post #16) about pressing and holding and then dragging when the animation starts, then that's actually the problem itself.
The animation goes by so fast, that each time you do this, it takes a few false starts before you manage to time it right. The overall effect is to give priority to TF3D scrolling at the expense of functionality in terms of text selection. It makes me want to rip out TF3D by it's heart, which of course is a bit overkill.
I'd settle for being able to tell TF3D to stop interfering in specific apps, or simply to stop interferring while editing. Actually, come to think of it .. another viable option might be to find a way to get that animation to take a little longer ... hmmm
One thing you can do to mitigate it somewhat is to double tap on a word to select a word, triple tap to select an entire line. I use Pocket Informant and it too won't allow me to drag to select unless I try to time it like you do. Another trick is to use the hardware keyboard, and your arrow and shift keys combined to select text.
Sure wish the good things we like about WM would stick from version to version, and the bad things would be fixed and stay fixed. Hey, it could happen
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Text selection in certain apps is incredibly painful: using the stylus to select a portion of text is almost always interpreted as an attempt to drag-scroll the display...
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There is a similar problem on Topaz (Diamond 2). It seems finger scrolling sensitivity was made too high and it can no more tell finger from stylus. I found a (partial) solution. Maybe it works on Rhodium too.
- Find the registry key "HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings".
- It should contains a subkey named "TFLOIgnoreAPPs". If it does not exist create it.
- For every application where you want to be able to select text add a string value called "IgnoreAppXY" where XY are two characters different for every entry.
- As value enter the name of the application EXE file as seen in file explorer (warning: case does matter).
From then on for that applications finger scrolling is suppressed and text selection works as expected.
This is a sample from my registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs]
"IgnoreAppST"="WiFiNetwork.exe"
"IgnoreAppYT"="YouTube.exe"
"IgnoreAppPH"="PIMHelper.exe"
"IgnoreAppNP"="NOTEPAD.exe"
"IgnoreAppCE"="ContactEditor.exe"
"IgnoreAppTM"="tmail.exe"
"WiFiNetwork.exe" and YouTube.exe" were already there. I added "PIMHelper.exe" (editing inside SPB Diary Today plugin),
"ContactEditor.exe" (editing for Contacts), "tmail.exe" (editing for SMS and email) and "NOTEPAD.exe" (Orneta text editor).
Hope it helps.
That method worked for me for Pocket Informant, using "ignoreappPI"="PocketInformant.exe".
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SOLVED!
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs]
"IgnoreAppST"="WiFiNetwork.exe"
"IgnoreAppYT"="YouTube.exe"
"IgnoreAppPH"="PIMHelper.exe"
"IgnoreAppNP"="NOTEPAD.exe"
"IgnoreAppCE"="ContactEditor.exe"
"IgnoreAppTM"="tmail.exe"
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Brilliant - Thank you! This is EXACTLY what i was hoping for! Awesome!
Update:
I posted this brilliant solution to the standard thread for Rhodium Cabs,Tips,Tweaks etc
.. Thanks again oruam57!
Just a word of caution. My device already had [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs], with YouTube as the only exclusion, but i notice that the board seems to introduce a space into the "TFLOIgnoreAPPs" portion, which might cause problems for some folks who want to try this out.
And for the record, this solution does not solve the problem for the standard editor for Contacts and Tasks, which doesn't have a Process whose name you can use. So I'll start looking at custom editors for Contacts now, but it's good to have this handy tweak within reach!
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And for the record, this solution does not solve the problem for the standard editor for Contacts and Tasks, which doesn't have a Process whose name you can use.
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Maybe I do not understand exactly your problem but on my Topaz:
- in the first tab of standard Contacts and Task editor text selection does work (do not know why, I suppose Touch Flow has some internal logic);
- in the second tab (Notes) of Contacts text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "ContactEditor.exe";
- in the second tab (Notes) of Tasks text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "poutlook.exe".
At any rate using Dotfred's Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) you can inspect processes and windows on your phone and with a little patience you can find the owner process of any interesting window.
Hooray!
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Thank you soooo much oruam57! I searched for hours yesterday for a fix for this issue. It was driving me crazy. I made two of my own for ListPro and eWallet and they work great now too. THANKS!
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Maybe I do not understand exactly your problem but on my Topaz:
- in the first tab of standard Contacts and Task editor text selection does work (do not know why, I suppose Touch Flow has some internal logic);
- in the second tab (Notes) of Contacts text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "ContactEditor.exe";
- in the second tab (Notes) of Tasks text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "poutlook.exe".
At any rate using Dotfred's Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) you can inspect processes and windows on your phone and with a little patience you can find the owner process of any interesting window.
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@ Oruam57, you're right, thanks again! I was in fact using DotFred's Task Manager to discover the processes .. but i came to the incorrect conclusion (that there was no identifiable processes, for Tasks and for Contacts) because i saw no change in the processes listed between editing and not editing their notes, as poutlook.exe was still running after i edited the notes and while the list of tasks/contacts was still displayed.
And this is how I overlooked the possibility that poutlook.exe itself was the editor
BTW, i notice that the exclusion for poutlook.exe works for the notes of both Tasks AND Contacts, they seem to use the same editor. I have no ContactEditor.exe listed at all, must be for your custom editor.
I tried with on WLMMessenger.exe, but it didint work.
I still cant select ( highlight ) text from a conversation. When i do it begins to scroll..
Has anyone the solution?
Delete.
One's man burden is another man's blessing!
Most folks seem to hate the threaded SMS which you like, for reasons including that you get such a tiny little area to see what you've typed, plus you don't have the option of adding other recipients.
I'm not trying to get into a debate about it .. just hoping to point out that there is more than one solution to your problem of "dual texting crap": I haven't seen any tweaks to embrace the nice new interface, but here is one for killing it and sticking with the tried and tested 30 year old way ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373681
BTW .. a bonus is that once you have applied this, you can easily change your mind later and simply go and toggle the value between 0 and 1 without rebooting the device
Hope this helps
I have to agree with vin5cent0, I bl**dy hate the WM SMS reply interface. It's _so_ ugly. I don't care for threaded SMS's though.
Maybe you'd like Vito SMS-Chat, vin5cent0?
I prefer the TF3d threaded interface over the windows mobile interface as well. However it only appears accessable by replying to a message on the messaging tab in TF3d. Any new message or other way of replying to a message brings up the older WM interface. I would like be able to use the TF3d threaded interface for all the ways you can send a text.
This is the first i've seen someone wanting to actually embrace the TF3d message interface. It's woefully inferior to the WM one for the following reasons:
1.) Lack of character counter for sending message
2.) No support for signatures
3.) Phone numbers aren't clickable
4.) URL's aren't clickable
5.) Stupid Soft Key for Sent isn't the same as WM messaging program and is back (without confirmation) instead of send resulting in lost messages
6.) Reply to: screen / threaded view TERRIBLY SLOW when you have a lot of messages - we're talking 10 seconds pauses sometimes when pulling it up or replying (I imported all my SMS from my old phone so I have 9k text messages currently...)
I'll take functionally over "prettiness" any day. If they can fix these issues, I'd use it again I suppose. For now I'm using the "zoom sms" hack to disable the TF3d reply to interface and it goes to the WM instead.
Hey gang,
I'm driving a Verizon TP2 with the standard ROM, TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38420.2 out of the box with WinMo 6.1. I'm still fairly new to WinMo and the TP2 and am having some frustration with selecting text, mainly with trying to select text that extends beyond the visible screen. I can select text that's on the screen easily enough, but when the text I want to select extends either above or below what's visible on the screen, I can't figure out how to get that extra bit of text.
For example, let's say I go into a sent email that has four total paragraphs of text, the first two of which are completely visible on the screen. I need to select and copy the first three paragraphs only. I can easily select the first two visible paragraphs, but I can't figure out how to scroll down and continue getting that third paragraph.
I've tried with my fingers and the stylus, with no luck. Once I have the visible text selected, if I scroll down with the scroll bar to get the text below, once I click on the text it deselects. I've also tried getting the screen to auto-scroll with the stylus as I'm selecting text, by keeping the stylus down at the bottom - much like you would with your mouse pointer in Outlook/Word on your computer - but it won't scroll.
I've read posts about using the shift and arrow keys, but I can't seem to make that work either. Selecting all the text, then copy/pasting that over and deleting the extra works in some situations but not all. I need to be able to select exactly and only the text I need before copy/paste.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
-Stever
I believe you have to map the shift function to a key and then go from there. Or you could highlight the first part, copy paste, scroll down, highlight the second part, copy paste.
I'm looking for a thread where someone asked a similar question
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I believe you have to map the shift function to a key and then go from there. Or you could highlight the first part, copy paste, scroll down, highlight the second part, copy paste.
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I'm going to give Rhodium Keyboard Controller GSM/CDMA v1.4 a try and see if that helps.
That being said, am I seriously *not* doing something stupid here? Is there really no built-in function to continue scrolling as you're selecting text with WinMo 6.1? I've really been enjoying WinMo 6.1 on my TP2 over my previous Blackberry experiences (including old non-touch and the Storm), but this seems like an amazing oversight.
Anyone know if this is corrected/included in WinMo 6.5?
Are you in TF3D or the standard windows view? In TF3d I cannot highlight any part of the message, I can only scroll. When I opened windows view (click all messages in the txt tab) I was able to touch click (hold down on screen) > "Make Selection" > and then highlight as much text as needed. It works exactly like excel and word mobile. I'm on Mighty Mikes 6.5 sense 2.1 rom.
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I'm going to give Rhodium Keyboard Controller GSM/CDMA v1.4 a try and see if that helps.
That being said, am I seriously *not* doing something stupid here? Is there really no built-in function to continue scrolling as you're selecting text with WinMo 6.1? I've really been enjoying WinMo 6.1 on my TP2 over my previous Blackberry experiences (including old non-touch and the Storm), but this seems like an amazing oversight.
Anyone know if this is corrected/included in WinMo 6.5?
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It may very well be a 6.1 vs 6.5 issue...I just confirmed that the problem exists on my T-mobile TP2 as well, stock 6.1 ROM.
I tried everything I could think of, with no luck...except for one thing: if you have the keyboard open when you start to select text, you can use the arrow keys to scroll up/down. Of course, it's not exactly easy to do that and hold the stylus on the screen, but if you're using your fingertips to select text, you might be able to get away with that.
Hello all. First time poster, long time reader. I've got myself a Touch Pro 2 on VZW running the feb. 10th version of mighty rom. I have just one tiny problem with this rom, and also with the standard rom. When I double tap a text message from Manila, it opens said message in Manila's text messaging program. What I want to know is does anyone know of a way to tweak the registry or manila itself to allow for the double tap of a text message to bring me into windows mobile's text messaging sms program?
I apologize mods if this is in the wrong place, feel free to move it to the right one. I also searched for about a half an hour and could not find a resolution to my problem.
Thank you all in advance.
Brian