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SPB Mobile Shell 3 - Widgets & Overview

Hi Guys
Well I've stuck SPB MS 3 on my device and I have to say that it's quite nice to configure and I especially like the wide background with scrolling....
One thing I'd like to know is if any other Widgets will come out from modders/devs or whether we have to be happy with our lot in terms of stock Widgets.
Aldso, to address the battery drain issue....I have a strong feeling that this is related to anothe3r piece of software....as I have had SPB MS3 on my Touch HD (Stock ROM) for the last couple of hours, received a couple of calls and some MMS messages (with constant data connection live) and I am only on 95%.
Comments on either points welcome?

masrterk said:
saw last full video review of Spb mobile shell V3.... very disapointed with some feactures....
not completely finger friend as iphone or new manila from Topaz (Diamond2)...
continuos to use
Windows Sms menu ,
Windows alarm,
windows calendar apointments,
no photo viewer like tf3d,
no decent Video , audio player...
-»please make some new menus or plug-in
for mobile shell V3 same problems V2
NEW Programs/Menus sugestion
-»please make Sms program or menu
like Vito Sms chat or iphone Sms ,PC msn
-» please make fingerfriend Alarm for M.shell 3
-» please decent Mp3 video player and photo viewer
....
Spb weather is excelent in m.shell2
many thanks
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Please, you have posted this almost word for word in every damn thread on the site that mentions SPBMS3, often more than once.
You are entitled to your opinion and what you say may even be entirely valid, but for the love of pete, STOP! We get it, thanks.

And not only in xda !!!
But he's got a point though..!!

OK - he has a point but he's destroying the merit of that point by being a bit of a fool....anyway, do we know if it's going to be easy to create widgets ourselves?
That was really the reason for my post

is mobile shell 3 out already then????

SPB Mobile Shell 3
Hi Guy's
I have taken a look over at Infosyncworld and watched this video http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/9030.html it reminds me a little of the SPB mobile shell 3's carousel.
Comments from page above: "Pros: Brilliant interface, among the best we've seen for a mobile phone. Smooth animation, great colors, sparkling effects".
Cons: "Nobody is building this into a phone . . . yet."
No correlation but striking nonetheless.

I've just posted my thoughts over on the SPB forum,
it is good...but there are also a few things that aren't
1) I do like the ability to change widgets, size of widgets etc, but I'm missing the battery indicator on the professional now screen
2) The call log has already been mentioned, but it's certainly not the best so I wont go there again
3) The now screen calendar, I can only get 1 week to display on either of the now screens. That means that today (sunday), I can't see anything for next week. Also, as pointed out for MS2, the bold to indicate a day with appointment still isn't clear enough..another colour would have been better
4) The phone doesn't automatically return to the Now screen when turned off. it returns to the last screen you were looking at
5) the option to change to two softkeys on the today screen (Touch HD) has gone. On MS2 these defaulted to SBP menu and Calendar I think. I changed mine to SPB menu and Now. The SBP menu still works, but the now gives an error that the "nowscreen file cannot be opened"...and no way to change this
6) I still use my today screen because of the PhoneAlarm plug in. MS3 takes two clicks to get to the today screen, MS2 required only one.
7) the facebook integration only works for contacts in your favourites list
8) the ability to email a contact has been added though, which had been requested so that's a good thing
so..to sum up....I'm undecided on whether to upgrade when the full version is released, or go back to MS2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UayDOO_0gII

i like ms3 but i have a problem with the notifications, when i receive email or sms i see it in my taskbar but not at the notifications of ms3???
whats going wrong? anybody got an idea??

htckaiseruser said:
i like ms3 but i have a problem with the notifications, when i receive email or sms i see it in my taskbar but not at the notifications of ms3???
whats going wrong? anybody got an idea??
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This is not a problem for me when I'm running MS3. The notifications appear as they should. I've read some people are having issues with the CAB install (although I haven't had any issues with it), have you tried the .exe install?

htckaiseruser said:
i like ms3 but i have a problem with the notifications, when i receive email or sms i see it in my taskbar but not at the notifications of ms3???
whats going wrong? anybody got an idea??
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Also for me is the same...

Pandemoniumone said:
This is not a problem for me when I'm running MS3. The notifications appear as they should. I've read some people are having issues with the CAB install (although I haven't had any issues with it), have you tried the .exe install?
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Where to find the exe file?

Kal-El said:
Where to find the exe file?
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It was posted in this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505365
Read through the thread to find some useful tips with customizing as well!

i have installed both the exe and the cab version. same problem. on startup notifications works, but after i been in startmenu or a other menu the notifications fail to come in notifications of ms3

life style background
i have found that if you use a ratio of 1.6 to 1 shows the background image the best. the size does not seem to matter as long as it has this ratio.
edit: sorry I posted this in the wront thread, I ment to post it in the diamond themes, applications and software as this ratio is for vga. again sorry for the mistake.

decided after some testing to go back to TF3D - I dislike the use of WM to preview the texts and emails - TF3D has a better mechanism for me in that respect...nice UI though.

Kal-El said:
Also for me is the same...
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Here too...

After trying the SPB 3.0 shell i decided to buy it. I love the way it is customized and the diferent views it provides, but yes i concurr the sms and mail preview of the TouchFlo 3D is way better.

Power off and softreset button from pocketplus?(icon)
does anybody know how to get the shortcuts power-off and the green reset icon function from pocketplus4 into Mobile shell3?
i am so used to switch off by tapping that icon on my homescreen,
but i cant find it in ms3.
OR do you have a better solution for tapping off my HD?
thanx bros.

like ms3 but i have a problem with the notifications, when i receive email or sms i see it in my taskbar but not at the notifications of ms3???
whats going wrong? anybody got an idea??
Today Customize the appearance and the information to be displayed on the Home screen.

Any way to review all messages in Message Tab?

hi Guys
I was wondering whether there is a way to review all messages in the Message Tab?
It shows the last message that was received and i have to finger scroll up and down to see all the messages. Moreover, it doesn't show me all the sent messages too, so trying to figure out what the message was related to has led to some confusing conversation.
Is there a way to show all the messages in the tab ? Tried looking for it on this search forum, but I wasn't able to find any, possibly due to the wrong keywords.
Thanks !

I'm assuming you mean in the TouchFlo 3D interface... It took me a while to stumble on this one myself (but it made sense thinking about the interface with other tabs), but you can go through the messages by dragging your finger up and down on the message on-screen. Dragging bottom-to-top goes backwards chronologically, and top-to-bottom goes forward.
Hope that helps.

thanks for the post.
Yeah i know that is how to go through the messages.
I was hoping i could see all messages displayed on the tab, instead of one message.
Is there a way to do this ?

I don't think that's possible, but you can tab on the message to open up the TF3D interface to view the conversation thread with the recipient, or click on All Messages (left softkey menu) to open the Windows Mobile interface to see the list of messages with various recipients.

Thanks for the reply.
That kinda is inconvenient. i would like to see all the new messages from different people, and i had already missed a few messages without thinking of going through the All Messages tab.
Wished there was a way to see all incoming new messages from different people at least.

Seeing as how it's still WM 6.1, I figured I'd just reuse all the old programs from my Wing. So I reinstalled the 750v palm threaded SMS program (which overwrites the current messaging app) and all was good in the world. Well, only somewhat...
Unfortunately, MMS no longer works which is really weird because it worked perfectly fine on my Wing. Now when I try to send a MMS, I keep getting the "Out of Memory" error. Oddly enough, I never got that error on the Wing... and it had a fraction of the memory compared to this beast.
Hopefully when 6.5 comes out, this can be resolved (or a program that automatically marks all your SMS's as read). Until then, the only solution I have been able to find has already been mentioned... and that's to manually swipe through each message. Sucks if you're a big texter since you can easily rack up tens (if not hundreds) of messages in a short period of time.

Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately, i am a huge texter and i am loving the TP2. I could practically write an essay on it, and i won't feel like it is bogging me down.
Hence why i had "ignored" so many messages lol

With my Vodafone brnaded Touch Pro2 the left soft key is programmed to show "all messages" guess this is what you want but not sure how they managed it, I presume it is a reg edit. Maybe someone else knows which one.
Cheers
Barney

This is an interesting thread, as it highlights the design vs. functionality features of TF3D. As the author of this thread, me too would like to be able to see more than one message on the SMS tab and also have the option to have the reply go to the standard WM6.1 windows instead of the TF3D reply.

improwise said:
...and also have the option to have the reply go to the standard WM6.1 windows instead of the TF3D reply.
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You can already do this... kind of. When you go to the SMS tab, click left softkey for "All Messages." This will take you to the default SMS program you have on your phone (in my case, it will launch the Palm Threaded SMS). From here you can reply to any messages you have received. It takes a little longer to reply because you have to open the default SMS program then click the thread you want to reply to. Either way, it works.
Hope this helps!

Yeah I do heavy texting and emails but the touch flow 2d is really crappy. You can't even copy and paste!
I know I shouldn't say it but just simple think like the the safari web browser, sms messaging and big onscreen keypad is being missed on my iphone.

Maric said:
Yeah I do heavy texting and emails but the touch flow 2d is really crappy. You can't even copy and paste!
I know I shouldn't say it but just simple think like the the safari web browser, sms messaging and big onscreen keypad is being missed on my iphone.
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You can't copy and paste in the TP2 text program? Something I do every day on my Mogul? Geez, I really want this phone when it comes to Sprint, but that doesn't sound to good

TheBundo said:
You can't copy and paste in the TP2 text program? Something I do every day on my Mogul? Geez, I really want this phone when it comes to Sprint, but that doesn't sound to good
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Yeah it SMS on touchflo sucks bad. I am little weary with my purchase so far since I don't know I've run into a lot these little disappointments.
I guess I was spoiled by the iphone simple and clean interface. Even the dialpad seems kind of small and awkward to use. I am just hoping for some hardspl mods so I can see if this device can still woo me.

You CAN copy & paste from any SMS. Just open the message, or scroll down (if in threaded mode) to the item you want to copy, tap MENU, check SELECT TEXT, highlight the text, tap & hold then select copy.
It's 1 more step than before when I can simply highlight the text or number directly without having to tap menu. I guess the new TouchFlo 3D will have problems guessing if we want to highlight some text or scroll left/right when we slide our fingers across.

Putra said:
You CAN copy & paste from any SMS. Just open the message, or scroll down (if in threaded mode) to the item you want to copy, tap MENU, check SELECT TEXT, highlight the text, tap & hold then select copy.
It's 1 more step than before when I can simply highlight the text or number directly without having to tap menu. I guess the new TouchFlo 3D will have problems guessing if we want to highlight some text or scroll left/right when we slide our fingers across.
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When you said threaded mode, i am assuming you meant the Windows Mobile SMS app right ?
This is to clarify that the TF3D doesn't have the select text->cut and paste functionality but the Windows Mobile app does. You need to click on the left soft key "All messages" to bring up the Windows Mobile SMS screen, select the conversation, and you can then use Putra's instructions for text selection, copy and paste functionality.

Yes, in TF3D (or manila 2d), you can only read 1 sms at a time and limited to reply, forward & delete.
If you want to copy & paste, you need to open the Win Mob SMS application as outlined by btong1978

remove missed calls and calender? ive searched

OK, I know i will get flamed, but i have searched here, ppcgeeks, and howard forums, but apparently am not using the correct phrase or tag words. Can I, and if so, how can i remove the calender and missed calls from the home screen? i have ready through a ton of threads, i just cant find an answer. Flame away, but please also answer! BTW, i'm not a noob to these devices, i have had a 6700 and 6800, custom roms, etc, and have "tweaked" my TP2 rather significantly. i am pretty close to where i want it, just want to get rid of these last 2 things, then it is a hard reset, and reinstall everything i like. please help!

I know you can get rid of the "calendar" and "missed calls" icons quite easily. But you want to completely remove the links? So for the end result, you want just the clock on your home tab? ie, you don't want to see your next appointments and missed calls at all?

To answer your question, you will have to be more specific with your description. For instance, what items do you have selected for your today screen? Are you using Manila/TouchFLO 3D, HTC Home, or a 3rd party Today plugin? One possible fix could be disabling the calendar from the Today Items menu, or if you are using Manila/TouchFLO 3D, you can customize the tabs and remove the calendar from the list. Maybe you can take a screenshot of your screen so it is easier for us to see what you are talking about.

yep, just want them off the home screen, btw ohyeahar, i am using your skin and love it, thank you very much for all of the work.

i am using touchflo3d, i've taken all of the check marks off of the items list in the today settings screen, aside from the touchflo 3d check

Ok, I see what you are saying... On the "Home" tab of TouchFLO 3D, you would just like to see the clock and nothing else.
I did a search and found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424590
In the thread they referenced Diamond TF3D Config, by Sushilange
I searched for that and found this thread with a download link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
I downloaded the cab, installed it but it would not work on my phone
Apparently, this is for a previous version of Manila
I did some more searching and it seems that a lot of people want the same thing as you but I was unable to find a way to do it.
I am going to poke around in my registry and see if I can find a way to modify the home tab manually.

I found another thread that talks about removing the Calendar and Missed Calls:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=456474
There are some cabs on page 3 that you can try or you can read further in the thread where it talks about modifying the xml files to manually make the changes.

thank you, i will weed through and see what i can come up with.

well, the no dotted lines cab worked fine. i used the 590ad244_manila.zip file and replaced the file in windows and the calender is gone, not the missed calls. i attached the files here, thank you to [email protected] for these, i will continue to read through and see what i get.

ok, well, after some searching and fooling around, I tried editing the manila file again, but still have the missed calls text up. also, the above file only removes the calender text, and not the actual button, so if you press in the spot where the calender text was, it goes to the calender. not a huge issue, just thought i would mention it. but still not able to get rid of the 0 missed calls. my search continues, getting closer though.

Menu Extension in Messages (Manila)

Hello,
I wrote a programm which allows someone to send SMS over CherrySMS (a online Service).
It even adds these SMS messages to the Sent Items (SMS) Folder.
But afterall it is not really well integrated into Manila & Windows Mobile.
I'm searching for a way to add a menu entry into the Manila Messages view (where you can see received messages) and the Threaded View that I can simply click on that and my application starts and can reply to that message.
By searching the web I just found a way to add menu extensions to PocketOutlook, but that's not enough for HTC/manila based phones.
So is there any good way to archieve that?

cool!
The manila tv player has a functionallity like this! i think you can stick to the implementation they used in their files...

Where do you actually see the sourcecode of manila tv? I just see a cab file and a description how to add channels to this application.
But afterall it's not such a bad idea to completly replace the SMS/message view in manila. It might be a start ... thank you
Does someone else know a way to add a menu entry to a manila based application? Maybe it is a xml-file, or a registry entry? Sorry I don't know very much about this whole Manila stuff (especially the manipulation of it).

notifications on Manila home tab

One of things I've always wanted to do to Manila is remove the SMS and Email tabs in favor of having them appear on the Home tab.
When I get a new SMS, I miss being able to see a little "1" pop up on my messaging icon, and being to click it to jump right into pocket outlook and start my threaded conversation. (Right now, I have to slide over to the tab, read it in an admittedly eye candy scrolling fashion, often flicking back a couple of messages to remember what I was talking about, then click to open up HTC's messaging application. Its more clicks and swipes than I think necessary.)
I like that 2.5 lets you place shortcuts on the bottom of the home panel (finally), so I was considering making those shortcuts to SMS and Email and removing the tabs, but then I realized I'd be losing the notifications.
I'm still looking up and reading about Manila customization, and I think this should be possible... can anyone with some knowledge on the subject point me in the right direction?
Do I need to edit the home mode9 file?
Do I need to learn LUA?
Do I need both?