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Some questions?

Morning all
Got my TP2 last week now, and this is my first winmo phone, so everything is new and exciting, and I'm loving it
But I want to change the rom on my phone, and after reading all the warnings I want to be sure of that what I'm doing is correct.
So, my phone is bought in Norway (GSM), but I don't know if i have the "World phone" edition, with the CDMA abilities built in. So I'm a bit unsure which HardsSPL I should use for my phone. Is there a way I can find out what kind of phone I have?
Also, the roms i have been checking out (like MightyRom), is only for CDMA phones, can anyone recomend, or give me a couple of roms for GSM phones?
Thanks in advance

Welcome aboard
Have a deep read here to learn how to flash a new ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Be sure what model of Rhodium you have before flashing a new ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
Then go to ROM section and choose a ROM (I recommend Energy´s phoenix2)
Good luck and enjoy!

Thanks, love the forum
The flashing of the rom seems easy enough, as long as i follow the instruction
It looks like i have the Rhodium T7373, which also is stated on my phone under Modelnr.. Should i then use the HardSPL for GSM?
According to PDADB.net it does not have CDMA support but it has UMTS (which i have no clue what is)
Thanks for your help, really apriciate it

you only have cdma if you live in america or canada and have sprint, verizon, or telus. seeing as you are in norway, install any gsm rom you want. have fun.

My HTC Touch Pro 2 has now HardSPL and Energy Phoenix 2 rom on it now, and i LOVE IT!
Though i had bricked the phone during the HardSPL installation, but i was just a bit edgy!
Thanks alot for your help.

Glad to know it helped,
Now...Enjoy!!

HTC Touch Pro2 - New User Questions

Hello,
Well i have finally gone and joined the elite ranks of owning a phone with the Windows Mobile OS.
Usually been a blackberry user who went to the HTC Magic and has just given up on the Google Android OS (is that a dirty word around here?).
So i purchased the HTC Touch Pro2 based on a recomendation from a very jealous workmate. Am still waiting for delivery but have a few queries he thought i should ask on here to get a good varied level of responses.
1. HTC Touch Pro2 - Good phone?
2. Vodafone ROM - I believe the ROM vodafone use (UK) screws the phone up a bit. So those who use Vodafone and still have their ROM installed... what do you think of it?
3. ROM - Any recomendations on the best ROM? I understand their are many out there and all do various things but just trying to get a view of what people prefer.
4. SPB Shell - a must have?
Thats really it i guess... just trying to get a feel of the OS and issues before i start tinkering.
Thanks!

Welcome to forums
1. Yes!! one of the best actually!
2. Before flashing, be shure to learn how and to identify if your Rhodium is CDMA or GSM
3. There is no such thing as the best ROM, what is best for me could not be for you. Try the more you can till you get your best.
Check ROM section and see the threads with more reads/posts this way you´ll have an idea what members prefer more
4. I do not like spb, I´m quite happy with Manila/Sense 2.1, no need to install another external heavy app
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!

HI all ..i just ordered tp2 from ebay since its yet not launched here in india.actually there was one sprint phone and one unlocked ohone listed there ..sicne i wanted 3.5 mm jack and the fact is i quite did not like the silver key board on the unlocked phone, i opted for sprint...
my question is how do i upgrade it to win mo 6.5..the seller says
"If you want I can send you the 6.5win mob file along with the stock (original ROM) and the procedure to upgrade and if not happy then downgrade to original rom."
but i read on web that sprint has not yet relaesed 6.5 rom pls advise.
also how is the video and audioi playback of the device since i prefered it over samsung omnia i 8000 which has a oled screen..actually i was tired of holding devices to my nose to watch videos and wanted a device which i can put on table and watch vdo music etc..

Your sprint Rhodium is CDMA, so this is the section where you can find a 6.5 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
Never try to install a GSM ROM

PaulCook1979 said:
Hello,
Well i have finally gone and joined the elite ranks of owning a phone with the Windows Mobile OS.
Usually been a blackberry user who went to the HTC Magic and has just given up on the Google Android OS (is that a dirty word around here?).
So i purchased the HTC Touch Pro2 based on a recomendation from a very jealous workmate. Am still waiting for delivery but have a few queries he thought i should ask on here to get a good varied level of responses.
1. HTC Touch Pro2 - Good phone?
2. Vodafone ROM - I believe the ROM vodafone use (UK) screws the phone up a bit. So those who use Vodafone and still have their ROM installed... what do you think of it?
3. ROM - Any recomendations on the best ROM? I understand their are many out there and all do various things but just trying to get a view of what people prefer.
4. SPB Shell - a must have?
Thats really it i guess... just trying to get a feel of the OS and issues before i start tinkering.
Thanks!
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Welcome Paul Good to see somebody thinking ahead about things like this!
1) I think a lot of people here will agree that the TP2 is the pinnacle of a "fully-capable" smartphone...it's definitely the best of the QWERTY-enabled hardware available today, and will probably remain so until/unless they eventually release a HD2 or equivalent with a hardware keyboard (...heaven willing!)
2) I've never used the Vodaphone ROM, but most carrier-specific ROMs are lacking in some way, and a large number of the ROM's available here will work regardless of which carrier you have...as long as you use one for the correct NETWORK type (which I believe is CDMA for Voda). Often the aftermarket ("cooked") ROMs developed here are based on carrier-issued ROM, then "improved" in any number of ways.
3) As orb3000 said above, there's no real way to subjectively recommend a "best" ROM...each has it's own pros and cons that have to be weighed against the needs/preferences of the user. The best place to start on that is to read THIS and THIS thread on flashing ROMs, then read over the threads related to each ROM that's been cooked/released here. Again, just make sure you're looking at ones that are for CDMA networks.
4) SBP Shell is definitely a great program, and can do a lot for the UI...but like most here I happen to believe that you can get more bang for your buck with the custom ROMs available here. Again, it's best to just try some out (including running a trial of SPB), and see what fits you best
THIS thread will help clear up the differences between windows mobile versions 6.5 and 6.5.3, which you'll see a lot of here.
So, you've got a lot of reading to do between now and when your new TP2 arrives! Once you get through all that, the next thing to learn is how to install/apply the fixes and tweaks available on XDA...usually that's done through ".cab files" (when you're lucky), sometimes through executable files, and sometimes through good old-fashioned registry edits by hand. I get the feeling you'll be learning about all that stuff quickly enough
2 last pieces of advice...first, make friends with the search function here in the forums...its often more efficient than just posting a question, and will save you from the backlash that can happen when someone asks a question with answers that are readily available around here. Lastly, even though the ROMs and other tweaks here are produced out of a labor of love, most any and all developers will accept donations (however small) to help offset personal expenses related to the time and effort they put into the wonderful gifts they drop on us regularly here. Donations are always voluntary, but once you find a ROM or other bits that work well for you, it's always good form to express your appreciation via some kind of token like that.
Good luck! Your friend has no idea what jealousy is about until he sees the look on your face when you start playing with your new toy!!

orb3000 said:
Your sprint Rhodium is CDMA, so this is the section where you can find a 6.5 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
Never try to install a GSM ROM
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Hi shingler...we dont hv sprint network in india..morevr the ad said that it is a gsm unlockd phone and seler can send nstruction if need to unlock cdma...wht is it actually..gsm or cdma...confusing..i hv vodaphone gsm ..will it work

dheerpat said:
Hi shingler...we dont hv sprint network in india..morevr the ad said that it is a gsm unlockd phone and seler can send nstruction if need to unlock cdma...wht is it actually..gsm or cdma...confusing..i hv vodaphone gsm ..will it work
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If you bought a Sprint-branded phone, then it's CDMA, and there's no changing that. You can't "unlock" a phone to switch between GSM and CDMA...so if your network is GSM, this phone is no good to you as a...phone

sirphunkee said:
If you bought a Sprint-branded phone, then it's CDMA, and there's no changing that. You can't "unlock" a phone to switch between GSM and CDMA...so if your network is GSM, this phone is no good to you as a...phone
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Actually, that's not true. See, the funny thing about the Rhodium is that there are no exclusively CDMA versions. Instead, there are the RHOD400 and RHOD500 models, which are GSM/CDMA hybrids. People refer to them as CDMA devices because of the fact they operate on CDMA networks by default, but they have full GSM capability, and can use regular GSM SIM cards.
dheerpat: The device you have bought works on GSM, but it will be referred to as a CDMA device on this forum, and you should use CDMA ROMs on it, despite the fact it also works on GSM. You should be able to use a Vodaphone SIM with it as long as you put the device in GSM mode, and if the SIM doesn't work, you can unlock the device so it will work.

phew!!!!! missed a beat there..paid 500 bucks for it afterall

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Actually, that's not true. See, the funny thing about the Rhodium is that there are no exclusively CDMA versions. Instead, there are the RHOD400 and RHOD500 models, which are GSM/CDMA hybrids. People refer to them as CDMA devices because of the fact they operate on CDMA networks by default, but they have full GSM capability, and can use regular GSM SIM cards.
dheerpat: The device you have bought works on GSM, but it will be referred to as a CDMA device on this forum, and you should use CDMA ROMs on it, despite the fact it also works on GSM. You should be able to use a Vodaphone SIM with it as long as you put the device in GSM mode, and if the SIM doesn't work, you can unlock the device so it will work.
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So there ARE dual-network Rhodiums! I've had this argument before, and was always told that it just wasn't true. Well I'm glad to know that I was right....back then anyway

sirphunkee said:
Welcome Paul
Good luck! Your friend has no idea what jealousy is about until he sees the look on your face when you start playing with your new toy!!
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Hi, thanks for the response - and thanks to everyone else who has responded (aprt from those who hijacked my post lol).
I wont be using CDMA as i believe this is mainly for the US not the UK? So my geeky mate tells me, we only use GSM in England? Is he wrong and we don in fact use CDMA?
He also looked very shocked when i repeated that a lot of people dont go for the SPB Shell... he said its awesome and im stupid if i dont get it... yeah well i got a HTC Touch Pro2 and you dont pal... lol
I will look at the ROM's (already started) and will 'play' with a few that look interesting. I presume the SPB shell will work with any ROM and not wipe out any functionality? If i go for the SPB Shell...
Quite comfortable with the use of .cab files.... may not be so sure with registry tweaks but ill learn...

PaulCook1979 said:
Hi, thanks for the response - and thanks to everyone else who has responded (aprt from those who hijacked my post lol).
I wont be using CDMA as i believe this is mainly for the US not the UK? So my geeky mate tells me, we only use GSM in England? Is he wrong and we don in fact use CDMA?
He also looked very shocked when i repeated that a lot of people dont go for the SPB Shell... he said its awesome and im stupid if i dont get it... yeah well i got a HTC Touch Pro2 and you dont pal... lol
I will look at the ROM's (already started) and will 'play' with a few that look interesting. I presume the SPB shell will work with any ROM and not wipe out any functionality? If i go for the SPB Shell...
Quite comfortable with the use of .cab files.... may not be so sure with registry tweaks but ill learn...
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Yeah, SPB Shell used to be the best option for customizing the interface on winmo devices, but that was before HTC introduced, and have since refined, the TouchFLO3D interface. There's also a ton more user-generated tweaks and such that have sprung up since then (as you clearly see now).
I don't know about the GSM vs CDMA carriers in the UK or Europe, I'd always understood that GSM was dominant, but there were CDMA carriers there too...but I really have no idea for sure.

Well finally got my phone... its GSM....
Got the SPB shell - liking it.
Only issue i have is not being able to send MMS but trying to sort out.
So far so good - will play more once more confident - not bricking my phone for anyone lol

[Q] CDMA Desire (US Cellular)

I just saw a video review of US Cellular's new CDMA version of the HTC Desire. No doubt the people who buy this phone will discover all sorts of information on this forum... info that could (I'd imagine) seriously harm their phone if they try to flash their CDMA Desire with a GSM Desire ROM!
Might it be appropriate to give this variant its own subforum? Or failing that, post some prominent warnings that the US Cellular HTC Desire is a significantly different piece of hardware?

I guess nobody with one of these has discovered the forum here yet?

(noob here). Can it really cause that much problems? I'm going to be picking up the Desire from Telus soon. Are you saying that I won't be able to use the current custom ROMS?

couto607 said:
(noob here). Can it really cause that much problems? I'm going to be picking up the Desire from Telus soon. Are you saying that I won't be able to use the current custom ROMS?
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The Telus Desire is not CDMA - it's GSM/HSPA like all the others. Custom ROMs will work as long as they support the SLCD screen (some are written only for AMOLED screens).
I'm specifically talking about the US Cellular HTC Desire, which is the first CDMA version to be released.

And so it begins...
http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/147600-us-cellular-desire-available-aug-27th.html
I have mine as well. Can we root with the guides using the desire from other carriers?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7873651
Kcarpenter said:
My brother just picked up a desire and wants to root it.
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And has anyone who has gotten the new USC Desire, have you tried the current root method to see if it works. I have doubts that it will.
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agree with the OP.
just like the sprint hero and the GSM hero.
need to be a subsection. like you said it could seriously damage the phones if they flash the wrong things. hope a mod creates a different section soon.

+1 on that. There's a lot of people out there who don't even know the different between GSM & CDMA.

Also, it would help for development in general (root and roms.)

I really think the mods should open seperate forums for Desire GSM and Desire CDMA, because as both phones use completely different radios, chances are it will wreck the phone if you put a GSM ROM on a CDMA phone.

Anyone know who any of the mods for the Desire forum are? I would just PM them but I'm not sure who they are.

[Q] Split BRAVOC and GSM SubForums

Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.

tramane said:
Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.
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Mods...? Anyone?
I see a lot of views and no responses.
Am I the only one that has this concern?
If I am, lol, its all good

You are not alone but this has been already suggested, and I'm not sure that it will be done :/
See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801301
And as AndroHero pointed out, it's not here that you should make this suggestion.

I agree also, we need separate sections for GSM and CDMA devices, it would be less confusing for people.

When the CDMA Desire came out, there were a lot of suggestions on the requests to admin forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=113
Nothing ever came of it obviously but they seem to be a little more willing to add forums/subforums lately. It could be worth another push on that forum.

tramane said:
Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.
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i think you may have more luck lf you just ask for a dedicated cdma android development section rather that a whole sub formum, desire general and q&a could remain both gsm and cdma

Desire GSM CDMA subforum
I don't know if this helps but as far as I know the US is the only country that runs CDMA. Therefore when I see a rom posted by someone from another country I then assume that it is a GSM rom and do not dl it.

you are incorrect sir,the asia pacific region has more cdma subscribers than the united states.
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
for the purposes of this forum however; your method works.
DevilDogAK said:
I don't know if this helps but as far as I know the US is the only country that runs CDMA. Therefore when I see a rom posted by someone from another country I then assume that it is a GSM rom and do not dl it.
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Getting my Verizon Nexus next week, how interchangeable are the ROMs?

As far as rooting and flashing go, how compatible are the ROMs? I'm assuming a GSM ROM wouldn't work on the CDMA phone, but are they equally supported? Do devs make ROMs that work on both devices? I don't think I've ever had a phone with both CDMA and GSM versions widely used.
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Sent from my Droid Bionic.

Quite a few of the roms have cdma and GSM versions
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Are the downloads separate or can the same ROM be flashed on both devices? Looking at the dev section, I don't see a whole lot of ROMs with two download links even though some of them mention the LTE version.

TheBiles said:
Are the downloads separate or can the same ROM be flashed on both devices? Looking at the dev section, I don't see a whole lot of ROMs with two download links even though some of them mention the LTE version.
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There are two Dev Forum links. One for GSM and one for VZW cdma phones only. Check the Verizon Dev forum for the cdma specific ROMS. The GSM came out earlier so the development is lagging a bit behind for the Verizon phone.

Please don't flash a GSM ROM on your Verizon device or vice versa. But, then, you're (hopefully) just asking if your favorite GSM ROMs have CDMA counterparts... In that case I can only suggest browsing the CDMA development section...
Terminators run on Android...

Chopstix9 said:
There are two Dev Forum links. One for GSM and one for VZW cdma phones only. Check the Verizon Dev forum for the cdma specific ROMS. The GSM came out earlier so the development is lagging a bit behind for the Verizon phone.
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Ahhhhh, did not notice this. I added the original forum to my favorites so long ago, and I wasn't aware of its counterpart! Now things make sense.