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KiNgxKernel or Netarchy kernel?

Which one do you like better? I'm not necessarily looking for best over clock speed, but actually better battery life. Any ideas?

I prefer kings kernels.. I haven't had good results on nets kernels lately.. cpu stayed at 100% a lot for me..
Kings scales just fine for me and provides great battery life.. I use his bfs #4 kernel.
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I've used nearly every one of netarchy's kernels, but am now using King's. My battery life is awesome on BFS #4, and everything is very smooth.

I actually prefer hero's baked snack kernel 1. It also has HAVS like king's kernel. Standby time battery life is about the same between king's and hero's, but for me hero's battery life is better when actively using the phone.
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Stupid question, but what is the difference between BFS and CFS kernels?
I guess a better question is BFS #4 or CFS #7?

bigupurself7 said:
Stupid question, but what is the difference between BFS and CFS kernels?
I guess a better question is BFS #4 or CFS #7?
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exactly my thoughts.. which is better?

WutTheHeezy said:
exactly my thoughts.. which is better?
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Google is your friend. But basically, BFS is supposed to be faster, while a little less stable, while CFS is supposed to be a little more stable (its older), but the trade off is the speed. I personally dont see much of a speed difference, but I still usually use BFS.

netarchy. Never had any problems with his kernels. Haven't tried King's yet, but the way I look at is, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.

I'm sure KingxKlick is a great guy and knows what he's doing, but I avoid his kernel because he doesn't actually own an Evo. I stick with netarchy because he's someone I trust.

Last-Chance said:
running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
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Unistall voicemail from Titanium backup. Then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7749762&postcount=44 That is the updated Apk for the voicemail. Hope that helps man. And for me I use Kingz and love it. Been getting some very good battery life out of it. And its smooth even when running @ 1.17 oc.

Last-Chance said:
running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
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Do you have the latest radios?
The voicemail update (or lack of update, rather) is a ROM issue. It affects Fresh and others. More info and fix here.

sturmen said:
Do you have the latest radios?
The voicemail update (or lack of update, rather) is a ROM issue. It affects Fresh and others. More info and fix here.
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hmm, thats weird. I didn't have the problem before i flashed it with the kernel. any info on the 4g issue? if thats rom as well, then netarchy kernel is fine.
edit: just did a quick flash of king's kernel. seems like the 4g issue is rom issue as well.

Kings has been amazing so far, i'm very satisfied!

I have used both and get better battery out of kings by a large margin. I am using the BFS #4 and couldn't be happier. I had the 100% CPU issue on nets last update.
Here is a simple thing for me: When I am running Kings, my phone seems cooler to the touch, no matter what I'm doing. On nets, it get warm, then cools, then warm. Heat is wasted energy.
I think lots of the meat and cheese in Kings kernel came from net anyhow, but I no longer has a need to flash a new kernel. Sticking with kings.
-Roger

Like said above, if it isn't broke, I don't fix it. I'm using Netarchy's 4.18 and I'm not having the 100% cpu issue at all

Ok, figured I'd contradict myself and flash king's #4 bfs and test benchmarks against net's 4.1.8 bfs. Here are my results:
Fresh 3.1.0.2 / novatec 0003 / setcpu @ 1152 performance
fps2d:
net's - 54/2.69 attempt 2 of 3
king's - 54/1.84 attempt 3 of 3
linpack:
net's - 37.029 attempt 4 of 5
king's - 37.661 attempt 4 of 5
Nena Mark: Only ran once
net's - 15.7
king's - 15.5
Neocore: Only ran once
net's - 31.4
king's - 31.7
Quadrant:
net's - 1496 attempt 1 of 2
king's - 1513 attempt 2 of 2
Looks like king won this round. Gonna keep running it to see what battery life is like.

Netarchy 4.1.8. Maybe I'll try King's....but Netarchy is always on the ball. My battery is at 26.0 C on Net's and I've been surfing the web.
Will be using net's. It's like Kobe v LeBron

MedSchool26 said:
Netarchy 4.1.8. Maybe I'll try King's....but Netarchy is always on the ball. My battery is at 26.0 C on Net's and I've been surfing the web.
Will be using net's. It's like Kobe v LeBron
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Lol or Ford vs. Chevy

[Q] Battery Life and Kernel question

I'm currently running Fresh Rom (newest) with the stock kernel that it comes with. My battery life is not near as good as it was before I rooted.
Question is.....I'm running setCPU currently and have been thinking about flashing to Netarchy to see if my battery life increases. Does anyone have experience with this combination's battery life compared to running stock with setCPU? I'm not sure setCPU will work with the Netarchy kernel or not. Also, is Netarchy compatible with wireless tether and 4G?
Thanks.

I run stock with SetCPU and love it.
if the kernal you are using uses HAVS, SetCPU will be no good for you.
goodandevo.com has some nice tips for saving some juice also...
20-tips-to-improve-htc-evo-4g-battery-life
that's pretty much all i can help you with... sorry.

I had no luck with batt life on Fresh 3.3...I ran all of Kingz kernels and then NA's...no luck. If you want good batt life I suggest a new rom...Myn

Good to know...I had TwoPointTwo on with Kings #11 not long ago but took off because I like the interface on Fresh a lot more. Something tells me Sprint TV app was disabled on this by default as well.
Are you running Myns currently? Which kernel did you like the best with it for battery life?
@SpaceMonky.....
I believe the kernel that comes with Fresh does not use HAVS...so SetCPU should be working fine.
Also, I have done all the things listed on goodandevo.net as well as numerous other "tricks". Only one I have not tried is the Colin hack made for Evo by Myn. Still up in the air on whether this actually makes a difference.

[Q] Sprint Lover's Rom..Best Kernal for it?

Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni

mgianni19 said:
Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni
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I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
EVO on Tapatalk

piscesjoey said:
I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
EVO on Tapatalk
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Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.

mgianni19 said:
Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.

PryorDaniel said:
Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?

nck4857 said:
I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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No, and no
Don't use SetCPU with a havs kernel. If you go with one of his nohavs kernels then by all means use SetCPU as you wish. Another thing, just from my personal experience (though it may be different for your phone) the CFS kernels work far better than the BFS kernels. There's a guide around here that explains the difference.
As far as SBC goes, I haven't had any issues yet. I've been using a battery monitor to watch what's going on with my battery and haven't seen anything wrong with it. Another thing I do, just as a small precaution, is not let the phone charge 6-8 hours over-night. I'll let it charge to 100% then let it sit for about 2-3 more hours and call it quits. Don't know if that really does anything, but it makes me feel better so eh.
I know the military (I'm in the Army) uses Lit-ion batteries and trickle charges them without having any of them blow up/fry, however they do lose their ability to hold a charge over time. The fact that they do it, and the only problem has been lifespan of the battery is what convinced me to try an SBC kernel. Just choose whichever you feel comfortable with. It's all preference really.

PryorDaniel said:
Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc is the best from my personal experieince...good battery life and makes choppy roms run a lot more smoothly

nck4857 said:
I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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I've been using that one with no-sbc and it's worked great with the conservative profile. HAVS just deals with what voltage the processor uses at any given time/frequency so you can indeed use setcpu with it. It's the kernels with the built in smartass governor or ROMs using other battery tweaking scripts that don't always work well with setcpu.
And trust me, the military does not trickle charge their li-ions and they only run them at 4.10 volts to extend their life (depending on battery, always less than volts than their commercial counterparts). This I know for certain.

Anyone have a link to the stock kernel
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Guys quick question, with the above mentioned kernel. What frequency does if use when you turn off the screen? I want if to use the lowest possible, does the kernel do it automatically or should I use something like the overlook widget?
Also, can someone please provide instructions how to update the kernel, I haven't looked at the link yet so If there's instructions there that fine.
Thanks

wifi errors
i just flashed to netarchy kernel to my evo. cfs, havs no sbc. when i try to connect to wifi it says error. i used kernal manager to flash the kernal. is there anything i can to do to get the wifi back or do i need to go back to the stock kernel. i am running sprint lovers ROM. any suggestions.

update. when i flashed manually everything worked fine. maybe the kernel manager program has an issue with wiping the cache. not really sure. just thought i should let everyone know.

I would use the stock #15 HTC Kernel but with SBC. Link is in sec post here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590

I've been using netarchy 4.3.4 cfs more havs aggressive sbc with no problems. Amazing battery life and very responsive.

Netarchy's kernels are very stable,if you're up for it try a sbc kernel,great battery life.

sbc
i was just reluctant to try an sbc because of the horror stories i have heard about frying the battery. i guess when i feel lucky i will try it.

ziggy vs net kernels whats best ?

What you guys think for best battery life no sbc kernel bad for battery looking for a good kernel to run with elite 3 and virus airborne beta. Been using net kernel latest no cfs no sbc no suv bfs did try one ziggy kernel on older 5.4 airborne Rom.thanks finally figured out how to get sense running on airborne beta .

reaper24 said:
What you guys think for best battery life no sbc kernel bad for battery looking for a good kernel to run with elite 3 and virus airborne beta. Been using net kernel latest no cfs no sbc no suv bfs did try one ziggy kernel on older 5.4 airborne Rom.thanks finally figured out how to get sense running on airborne beta .
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HERE you can compare kernels. But i personally like a kernel that more aggressive. Netarchys Kernels & Ziggy's Kernels

You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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kd0axs said:
You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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Which is better net cfs havs more no sbc or all no with cfs

reaper24 said:
Which is better net cfs havs more no sbc or all no with cfs
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Personally bfs doesnt play well with my phone so stay with cfs. try each for a day and compare notes.

kd0axs said:
You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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Im using the net more havs hope it doesn't hurt my phone . Thanks what Rom u using . I'm on airborne

ive tried all kinda kernels, nets and ziggys in my opinion are the best. right now im using nets newest 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) i get Really good battery life and evrything seems to mesh well. but from what ive been reading not all kernels work the same for different phones.

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steal25 said:
ive tried all kinda kernels, nets and ziggys in my opinion are the best. right now im using nets newest 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) i get Really good battery life and evrything seems to mesh well. but from what ive been reading not all kernels work the same for different phones.
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Got onto the Elite 3 ROM the other day and LOVE it! However, its absolutely chewing through my battery life (extended batteries). Went from getting at very least 12 hours on MikFroyo 4.5 & stock kernel to now sitting at 63% after 3 hours! Was using Juice Defender for a bit until this kernel. lots of people said not to with havs.
Using Nets 4.3.4 cfs nosbc haves more with Konis Elite Series 3.
Have also got Setcpu running at smartass (also tried on demand) st 245/740ish and have one screen off profile set to 245/245 powersave.
Need to find a fix because I want to stay on this ROM.

[Q] Absolute Best Battery Life (ROM & Kernal + mods)

I'll be joining in a protest soon. Since having access to charge my Evo as often I usually do, I need to change ROM's I think.
I currently run MIUI 1.9.16 with Tiamat 4.0.6 SBC, no mods.
Can anyone suggest ROM's and Kernals that will grant me the best battery life as well as what mods and scripts I should run?
AOSP or Sense, doesn't matter with me.
Thank you for any advice that is given.
^_^

The best battery life I have gotten was from MikFroYo 4.4 with Netarchy-Toastmod-4.3.4
Edit: The easiest way to extend battery life, is to turn off all radios not in use (GPS/4G/Mobile Networks/Bluetooth), and turn your brightness down as far as you can.

in my opinion it seems that froyo (2.2) roms get better battery life, also running SBC is always better.. and the things said above obviously

bcarter2000 said:
The best battery life I have gotten was from MikFroYo 4.4 with Netarchy-Toastmod-4.3.4
Edit: The easiest way to extend battery life, is to turn off all radios not in use (GPS/4G/Mobile Networks/Bluetooth), and turn your brightness down as far as you can.
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I already do what you mentioned in the bottom part. I'll look into MikFroYo later today. Thanks. It'll take time getting used to Sense, I've been on MIUI since May, two months after I rooted.

How bad is your battery life?

theidlemonk said:
How bad is your battery life?
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Right now, slightly below average with the Data and everything on. I've been to busy to calibrate it and do the steps to increase battery life. Organizing a protest, funding, taking care of the house, following news articles (not a fast reader and I need glasses), etc... T_T

I need to do the whole calibration ting tomorrow morning. Mine's been a real slug with battery life lately.
The best battery life I ever had was with Koni III and Netarchy SBC Havs more

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Right now, slightly below average with the Data and everything on. I've been to busy to calibrate it and do the steps to increase battery life. Organizing a protest, funding, taking care of the house, following news articles (not a fast reader and I need glasses), etc... T_T
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Off topic but what r u protesting about
free the dirk

Papa Smurf151 said:
Off topic but what r u protesting about
free the dirk
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Occupy Youngstown. One of the cities following in suite with Occupy Wall St.

My best was from Warm 2.2 with sbc htc#15, also the toastmod with sbc was good too.
Gotta get a 3500 batt for great life. I got 3 days at a charge with above combo.
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Awesome. Thanks for being part of the movement. !!!!!!!!!!!
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Best for me is Mikg 2.55 I get good day to day half but I don't be on my phone crazy style tho
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I'm currently using Swagged Out rom, With Lithids Freedom Aggressive kernel which is undervolted by -175, and V6 SuperCharger script! Its an amazingly smooth stock rom. Kernel wise its the best battery life I've ever gotten on my EVO. And as to V6 SuperCharger I've used it on every Rom I've flashed its awesome. Their are links to eveything in my signature.

I'm a flash-a-holic so i wouldn't really know wat the best combo is but i just flashed the new snowy Rom so going to give it a couple days with the aggressive freedom 9 kernel (128/768 interactivex) and see how it goes...
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