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Gmail keeps updating and eating storage space without asking me first.
I don't want it, as I prefer the htc client...so how do I stop it happening, automatic updating is NOT ticked.
I'm concerned about how this happens, as it implies any application can update without my permission which would seem to be a privacy risk (although its the storage usage that concerns me most)?
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Are you rooted? I have not seen gmail update but deleting it should stop it from updating.
Gmail is a push email system so when an email appears in your inbox it will be pushed to your phone. It's how Android works. Although, as you said, turning off Gmail sync should stop this...
Apologies, maybe I wasn't so clear. It's not that 'emails keep arriving' that I'm on about!
I mean the actual "Google Mail" application itself. I don't use it...I have tried it on occasion but I always come back to using the HTC Mail application because I prefer the UI and I don't need instant push email, I'm happier scheduling to recieve mail every few hours.
BUT...what I find is that every so often, the Google Mail application UPDATES itself with a new release from the Market. I don't want that to happen, and I have to "remove the updates".
Same happened with Flash for a while which kept insisting on installing a big update that I had no interest in recieving, although that seems to have disappeared from my Applications list now (and I can still use Flash fine).
I'm not rooted, the stock ROM is fine for me, I've toggled that setting that enables all apps to install directly to SD...but things like the updates to Google Mail seem to take up a load of on phone storage.
Ah right!!! Unless Google ignores things for system updates I can't comment. I have the opposite issue in that nothing updates automatically ever!!
In the market page, can you turn off "automatic updates"? I think for google mail it is on by default.
Hmm, am having this same problem. Gmail App keeps updating, dispite auto-updates (for gmail app) unchecked. Problem is I'm using email-notifier app, which only works w/ earlier version, hence I need the current gmail version to remain.
For what it's worth, this is a non-HTC phone / stock ROM. Found this thread via google search and am posting here (sorry to revive old thread) in case there is some other 'android wide' solution someone's come up with.
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Has anyone noticed that not all apps installed on your phone show up in the "Downloads" section of the phone apps. I'm not referring to spoofed apps, rather free or paid apps that for some reason just don't show up. I've narrowed it down to countries. For instance, if I download via Kies a free app from the UK store, it installs fine and I can use it. However it won't show up in phone apps, thus preventing me from re-downloading or re-installing it at a later date.
Has anyone else noticed this? At first I thought my phone had a bug, or that I had reached a max limit of apps that would display on the phone apps. But now I'm starting to this it is a bug, or is actually like this by design.
i think it is design. but is it not that if u download and install via kies from another country other than your native one it will not show in download section??
It should show up. I mean my main store is the AU one, but often there are free apps on the UK, ES and other ones. The apps install fine using Kies. But they don't show up in the downloads section at all. I even tried submitting a Q&A with Samsung but it never accepted my submission oddly. Anyway that's another issue.
I'm not sure if it's by design or not, but it gives even more credence that it's best to install apps using Kies. Then you have a backup of the app if you want to re-install later.
But the best tip I can give everyone is this. Create separate accounts for the different countries's app stores. It's easy to just download an app and not bother, but it's well worth the effort. That way you can also login and re-download the app at a later date too. I created a UK, FR, ES, RU account and continue to do so for any free app I am going to download. Since other countries apps dont' seem to show up in the downloads section, I can't recommend enough taking the short time to have multiple accounts.
For a week or so now, my GNex has been popping up "available app updates" notifications at least once a day. This wouldn't be too unusual, but when I click the notification to go to MyApps in the market, I never seem to see all the updates.
If the notification says there are 5 available updates, then I click through to MyApps and find 3 updates available.
If the notification says there are 3 available updates, then I find 1
And if the notification says there are 2, I don't see any at all.
Seems like there are two apps on my phone that are either causing update notifications to appear when there is no actual update to install, or they have updates available, but I can't see them in the market for some reason. In either case, I have no idea how to figure out which apps are causing the problem.
There can often be problems with having multiple Gmail accounts. You get a notification for the update from an account other than your primary Gmail (but then you click into the Market and its your main Gmail acct). Not sure how to fix it, but it is mildly annoying.
If not, you can try wiping data out of the Market and re-entering your credentials.
Well if it helps I was also noticing that as well but like you said I went to market and nothing was showing .so for some reason I scrolled through my aps and clicked on google + and when it pulled up it had the update option so I updated and don't remember seeing any after so if by chance you have google+ on your phone check it just a thought cause that is where mine was coming from so far
Usually, you just need to wait for some times
Usually it happens to google apps (maps, google+, etc) so check them and also check your "Not Installed" list cuz sometimes those installed apps that need to be updated show up in that list instead of "Updates" list.
Not sure if its fixable with clearing data for market.
I also had this problem recently with Google+ and had it previously on my Xperia X10 with the facebook app. Possibly a problem with pre-installed apps which are then updated in the market.
Just do a manual install/update of the suspect app and the notifications will go away.
For me it was easy to spot the rogue apps as there was only one at a time causing the problem, so the update notification specifically said there was an update to Google+.
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Usually it happens to google apps (maps, google+, etc) so check them and also check your "Not Installed" list cuz sometimes those installed apps that need to be updated show up in that list instead of "Updates" list.
Not sure if its fixable with clearing data for market.
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I had the same problem last week.
Google + showed an update notification, which wasn't displayed in the Google Market. I noticed that Google + was in the "not installed" list, so I opened it there and manually updated it by clicking on the "update" button on the Google + market page.
Any chance you have auto updates on?
i get this same problem too. vvery often i get notifications saying "4 updates" and really there are only 2 updates. it just happens sometimes for no reason i can see. and no there aren't any manual updates during this time. it's truly some weird bug, or something is getting counted twice either my 2 gmail accounts etc.
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Usually it happens to google apps (maps, google+, etc) so check them and also check your "Not Installed" list cuz sometimes those installed apps that need to be updated show up in that list instead of "Updates" list.
Not sure if its fixable with clearing data for market.
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Yep, this was the answer. Google Music and Google+ were the culprits, and since they were pre-installed, they weren't in my installed apps list. I had actually checked every single app in my installed list individually, trying to find which ones had the updates. I didn't think to go through the uninstalled list.
I've had this happen from time to time. I fixed it by clearing market data, and then the market showed me the app that needed updating.
I've been getting it too and I think it's been caused by me having apps installed from a different market than what I am usually authorized to install from. ie I'm overseas and I have Google Music etc.
I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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I detailed what I did here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57161714&postcount=24
(Here's the post where I got the instructions from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57095260&postcount=9 )
I didn't change the directory where I sideloaded the Vending.apk, I just sideloaded it in with everything else. I don't remember if I briefly tried to install the Play store before without Google services, but that's probably why I had to adb install with the -r flag.
Before I installed Google services, some apps were working fine without them. Notably, Snapchat complained every time I brought it up, but ran fine. I would wait a bit for some more input from people... From what I've heard around here, it's just me and another guy (Aztecwarrior, the guy whose method I used in that thread) who have it working at the moment. I'd say you can sideload most applications without installing Google services.
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ is what I used to pull APKs to sideload before installing the Google services and Play store.
EDIT: I should mention that the Play store doesn't just deliver updates to apps... I've been able to completely install and manage applications through it; it works just as you'd expect it to work on any other phone for the moment. i.e., you don't need to sideload apps first to get them on the phone if you've installed all the Google stuff. Sorry for the ambiguity in my previous post.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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No background crashes -- yet -- at all. I've also enabled background ANRs in the dev options, and nothing's popped up from that either.
I don't have all access for Music, so I can't comment on that.
I just installed Hangouts and gave it a cursory launch... It loads up, enabled SMS (loaded all my conversations from the Fire Phone's messenger app), has all my contacts loaded up to start a conversation. Is there anything specific you'd want me to try?
Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Regarding default apps, everything is handled via intents (e.g. I set chrome to take all web requests)... when I enabled hangouts sms, I started getting texts to hangouts without being notified by the default app, so I think that much is configurable. The dialer, I'm not sure.
I'm in class right now (and pretty much until 9pm, and lots of homework), but I'll check hangouts dialer and default apps when I have time.
Did you root it first ,if so, did you use the same method as aztecwarrior?
No root. I used the guide that Aztec referenced, but not his exact steps. Check post #4 in this thread, the first few lines.
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I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
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I've been using the Play Store, Hangouts, and Gmail off and on the last 12 hours or so. It's been rock solid for me. No crashes. Haven't found any missing features. Maps does seem to have some issues but haven't tried navigation yet, which is what I really would use it for.
Thanks to you all for your input. I bit the bullet and ordered one before the sale ended.
Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
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Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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As I said, checking the update status does not provide the 3.6.8 version to my phone. It is not rooted and after delivery with 3.6.0 I did nothing else to the phone but update it to 3.6.2.
Only the new GSM unlocked phones come with 3.6.8 Sounds like you got your phone before this all happend therefore you are able to downgrade and root, your one of the lucky ones. You can get a AOSP feel to your phone if you want. Not sure why your not following those guides. Heck if you don't want to root then I'll trade you phones lol.
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I am transferring my contacts to the FIre phone from Android. All my phone contacts are stored in Gmail(google contacts).
Now the problem is i am not able to find a setting option which would show only contacts with Phone no.
It is showing all contacts of Gmail, but i only need contacts with phone no there.
I had the same issue in Android 2.3 or something, when Android had an option of enabling the contacts with phone no only. Later on in Android 4 they moved to keeping all contacts but at the dialup i could search for only contacts with numbers only.
Any suggestion here. May be a different launcher or app?
Thanks
I received my phone and mostly everything is working. Google voice works, and automatically places calls using my gv number. Only issue I'm having is that the hangouts doesn't send sms messages over WiFi (but will over let) and the hangouts dialer has the same issue, I can't place calls via WiFi either. Anyone else find this?
I checked off the box in the play store to not allow auto updating. However some apps are still auto updating. For example fb and instagram auto updated. I still get notifications that there are updates available for other apps. Is there something i can do to shut off auto updates for these apps? Thank you
there is an option in gplay store too for removing notification for apps update. facebook and instagram update because there is facebook installer or so installed on system partition, which is not related to gplay store and therefore they still update...but why do you want to turn off auto update and even the notification?
Go to Settings / Apps and deactivate everything with Facebook or Instagram in its Name
You maybe have to choose "show system" in the Apps Menu
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there is an option in gplay store too for removing notification for apps update. facebook and instagram update because there is facebook installer or so installed on system partition, which is not related to gplay store and therefore they still update...but why do you want to turn off auto update and even the notification?
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Sorry for late reply. I do not want apps updating without my permission. A lorry of times these updates make the app worse for me.
I also noticed that since the last sysytem update (2.38) my battery is significantly worse.
Im thinking about rooting they phone just to get rid of fb and instagram on phone. Wanted to dl the old fb apk that did both need messenger.
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Sorry for late reply. I do not want apps updating without my permission. A lorry of times these updates make the app worse for me.
I also noticed that since the last sysytem update (2.38) my battery is significantly worse.
Im thinking about rooting they phone just to get rid of fb and instagram on phone. Wanted to dl the old fb apk that did both need messenger.
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I do the same thing, I like to read what has changed in apps before updating also. there has been many times where the update has broken an app and I couldn't go back due to it not being a system app. I like viper rom cause in the installer I can remove system apps like facebook and Instagram before the initial system install and never have them auto update.