Hi.
Gmail keeps updating and eating storage space without asking me first.
I don't want it, as I prefer the htc client...so how do I stop it happening, automatic updating is NOT ticked.
I'm concerned about how this happens, as it implies any application can update without my permission which would seem to be a privacy risk (although its the storage usage that concerns me most)?
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Are you rooted? I have not seen gmail update but deleting it should stop it from updating.
Gmail is a push email system so when an email appears in your inbox it will be pushed to your phone. It's how Android works. Although, as you said, turning off Gmail sync should stop this...
Apologies, maybe I wasn't so clear. It's not that 'emails keep arriving' that I'm on about!
I mean the actual "Google Mail" application itself. I don't use it...I have tried it on occasion but I always come back to using the HTC Mail application because I prefer the UI and I don't need instant push email, I'm happier scheduling to recieve mail every few hours.
BUT...what I find is that every so often, the Google Mail application UPDATES itself with a new release from the Market. I don't want that to happen, and I have to "remove the updates".
Same happened with Flash for a while which kept insisting on installing a big update that I had no interest in recieving, although that seems to have disappeared from my Applications list now (and I can still use Flash fine).
I'm not rooted, the stock ROM is fine for me, I've toggled that setting that enables all apps to install directly to SD...but things like the updates to Google Mail seem to take up a load of on phone storage.
Ah right!!! Unless Google ignores things for system updates I can't comment. I have the opposite issue in that nothing updates automatically ever!!
In the market page, can you turn off "automatic updates"? I think for google mail it is on by default.
Hmm, am having this same problem. Gmail App keeps updating, dispite auto-updates (for gmail app) unchecked. Problem is I'm using email-notifier app, which only works w/ earlier version, hence I need the current gmail version to remain.
For what it's worth, this is a non-HTC phone / stock ROM. Found this thread via google search and am posting here (sorry to revive old thread) in case there is some other 'android wide' solution someone's come up with.
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when i flash a rom I'm looking to delete bloatware.
I remember reading somewhere that Google Talk is tied to the apps that you download and built in Gmail, so probably not, though I can't confirm this...
I just uninstalled it via titanium backup... No problems with gmail so far.
Edit: for some reason, I wasn't able to restore talk using titanium backup. The restore option wasn't there
It is always running and am wondering if it's draining the battery.
Get autostarts from android store and disable it. But Ive read up about uninstalling it a week ago and it got mixed reactions.
Just turn it off....go in and choose settings...then uncheck auto start...the choose settings and sign out.
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Just turn it off....go in and choose settings...then uncheck auto start...the choose settings and sign out.
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I don't think that keeps it from restarting. Everytime you reboot your phone, I believe it starts up google services and gtalk is one of them. That's why if you check running services, it will show it running when your phone is done booting.
I've never removed it because I do use it but when I set gtalk to not auto start it broke autosync in my google apps (gmail, market updates, etc.)
dont get rid of it, it has adverse affects on your market. just go into google talk and turn off auto sign in and then just sign out and never go back in... you need google talk service for the market to function properly.
I'm running CM 6.1 Stable. I have two apps installed that I have configured to provide me with background notifications: reddit is fun and Foursquare. Reddit is supposed to check for new messages hourly and Foursquare us supposed to check for friend updates every 10 minutes. Neither app is functioning in this regard.
Has anyone else had an issue like this? Is there by chance some setting that prevents 3rd party background notifications from working that I may have enabled by accident? Gmail notifications are still working.
I checked my system log for errors or anything unusual while enabling or disabling the Foursquare notification feature and there was nothing that I could see.
Do apps need to have a service running to provide this sort if functionality, or can the Android system simply let apps schedule periodic tasks? I ask because I don't see any services running for these two apps, and if they are required, that would be a problem.
try moving it back to ur phone not ur sdcard......
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I'm running CM 6.1 Stable. I have two apps installed that I have configured to provide me with background notifications: reddit is fun and Foursquare. Reddit is supposed to check for new messages hourly and Foursquare us supposed to check for friend updates every 10 minutes. Neither app is functioning in this regard.
Has anyone else had an issue like this? Is there by chance some setting that prevents 3rd party background notifications from working that I may have enabled by accident? Gmail notifications are still working.
I checked my system log for errors or anything unusual while enabling or disabling the Foursquare notification feature and there was nothing that I could see.
Do apps need to have a service running to provide this sort if functionality, or can the Android system simply let apps schedule periodic tasks? I ask because I don't see any services running for these two apps, and if they are required, that would be a problem.
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try moving it back to ur phone not ur sdcard......
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Neither app is on the SD card.
are you sure.....
For a week or so now, my GNex has been popping up "available app updates" notifications at least once a day. This wouldn't be too unusual, but when I click the notification to go to MyApps in the market, I never seem to see all the updates.
If the notification says there are 5 available updates, then I click through to MyApps and find 3 updates available.
If the notification says there are 3 available updates, then I find 1
And if the notification says there are 2, I don't see any at all.
Seems like there are two apps on my phone that are either causing update notifications to appear when there is no actual update to install, or they have updates available, but I can't see them in the market for some reason. In either case, I have no idea how to figure out which apps are causing the problem.
There can often be problems with having multiple Gmail accounts. You get a notification for the update from an account other than your primary Gmail (but then you click into the Market and its your main Gmail acct). Not sure how to fix it, but it is mildly annoying.
If not, you can try wiping data out of the Market and re-entering your credentials.
Well if it helps I was also noticing that as well but like you said I went to market and nothing was showing .so for some reason I scrolled through my aps and clicked on google + and when it pulled up it had the update option so I updated and don't remember seeing any after so if by chance you have google+ on your phone check it just a thought cause that is where mine was coming from so far
Usually, you just need to wait for some times
Usually it happens to google apps (maps, google+, etc) so check them and also check your "Not Installed" list cuz sometimes those installed apps that need to be updated show up in that list instead of "Updates" list.
Not sure if its fixable with clearing data for market.
I also had this problem recently with Google+ and had it previously on my Xperia X10 with the facebook app. Possibly a problem with pre-installed apps which are then updated in the market.
Just do a manual install/update of the suspect app and the notifications will go away.
For me it was easy to spot the rogue apps as there was only one at a time causing the problem, so the update notification specifically said there was an update to Google+.
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Usually it happens to google apps (maps, google+, etc) so check them and also check your "Not Installed" list cuz sometimes those installed apps that need to be updated show up in that list instead of "Updates" list.
Not sure if its fixable with clearing data for market.
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I had the same problem last week.
Google + showed an update notification, which wasn't displayed in the Google Market. I noticed that Google + was in the "not installed" list, so I opened it there and manually updated it by clicking on the "update" button on the Google + market page.
Any chance you have auto updates on?
i get this same problem too. vvery often i get notifications saying "4 updates" and really there are only 2 updates. it just happens sometimes for no reason i can see. and no there aren't any manual updates during this time. it's truly some weird bug, or something is getting counted twice either my 2 gmail accounts etc.
DiNoise said:
Usually it happens to google apps (maps, google+, etc) so check them and also check your "Not Installed" list cuz sometimes those installed apps that need to be updated show up in that list instead of "Updates" list.
Not sure if its fixable with clearing data for market.
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Yep, this was the answer. Google Music and Google+ were the culprits, and since they were pre-installed, they weren't in my installed apps list. I had actually checked every single app in my installed list individually, trying to find which ones had the updates. I didn't think to go through the uninstalled list.
I've had this happen from time to time. I fixed it by clearing market data, and then the market showed me the app that needed updating.
I've been getting it too and I think it's been caused by me having apps installed from a different market than what I am usually authorized to install from. ie I'm overseas and I have Google Music etc.
I decided that after years with the same gmail account, it had become too cluttered and too many people had my email and I just wanted a fresh start.
So, I created a fresh, new gmail account and I did a factory data reset on my phone.
But now, all the pre-installed apps won't show up in the Google Play store so I can not update them. If I type in the name of an app that is pre-installed, it shows "Update" but when I go to "my apps" there are no apps there, so I can't update them all. I also have "auto update" on, but nothing is updating.
What could cause this and is there a way I can fix it? Even though I don't use all of the pre-installed apps, I still want everything up to date.
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I decided that after years with the same gmail account, it had become too cluttered and too many people had my email and I just wanted a fresh start.
So, I created a fresh, new gmail account and I did a factory data reset on my phone.
But now, all the pre-installed apps won't show up in the Google Play store so I can not update them. If I type in the name of an app that is pre-installed, it shows "Update" but when I go to "my apps" there are no apps there, so I can't update them all. I also have "auto update" on, but nothing is updating.
What could cause this and is there a way I can fix it? Even though I don't use all of the pre-installed apps, I still want everything up to date.
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can you install apps from the pc on the new gmail? if not, what happens when you try that from the old one?
Same Issue
I have this exact issue. Purchased a used phone. It was delivered in mint condition and had been factory reset. So I set it up as it was new. However, the pre-installed apps do not show up in "My Apps". So, I cannot "Update all" and auto update does not include those apps.
If I run a search for any pre-installed app it gives the option to update. Once updated, the app shows in "My Apps" like normal. All new downloaded apps show up in "My Apps" as normal.
It's like the pre-installed apps are synced to a different account... Please help
They will show up. It takes a few minutes or so. I just got the HTC one, traded my s4 for it (best decision ever!) and it took a while
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I forgot I made this thread... Oops haha. Mine eventually just showed up, like mrbracht said, however it took a couple hours for me.
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Workaround: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/pre-installed-apps-google-play-e-g-reset-t3691533
Like the title says, I've noticed since updating to 7.1.2 at least 2-3 times a day I am thrown a notification for "updating Instant Apps" but it never tells me if it was updated or installed. I tried going to Settings -> Google -> Instant Apps and it is disabled yet these apps are auto-downloading and installing in the background. I have auto-updates off on the play store but this still occurs.
Is there anything I can do to disable or at least cripple the instant apps? I'm reading the purpose of instant apps is so you can try an application without installing it, I do not want to test drive apps like Buzzfeed so however I can disable it would be great
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Like the title says, I've noticed since updating to 7.1.2 at least 2-3 times a day I am thrown a notification for "updating Instant Apps" but it never tells me if it was updated or installed. I tried going to Settings -> Google -> Instant Apps and it is disabled yet these apps are auto-downloading and installing in the background. I have auto-updates off on the play store but this still occurs.
Is there anything I can do to disable or at least cripple the instant apps? I'm reading the purpose of instant apps is so you can try an application without installing it, I do not want to test drive apps like Buzzfeed so however I can disable it would be great
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So, using Titanium Backup I couldn't find the package com.google.android.instantapps.supervisor but using a root explorer I found the application in /data/app/com.google.android.instantapps.supervisor-2
I also found saved data in /data/data/com.google.android.apps.instantapps.supervisor
I have no idea if this will prevent the service from auto-updating as it has been without permission but I know where it is now...
Update: Deleting both folders causing settings to crash when you go to Settings -> Google -> Instant apps, so it might be deleted off my phone entirely. I will update if I see the application re-install itself
Instant apps are temporary apps. So you can't uninstall them or disable it. It's a feature built into Android that is not going away. Your only option is to install a rom without Gapps. Otherwise deal with it.
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Instant apps are temporary apps. So you can't uninstall them or disable it. It's a feature built into Android that is not going away. Your only option is to install a rom without Gapps. Otherwise deal with it.
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deleting those two files seemed to have broken that feature.
My issue was that I disabled that service through settings as suggested by one of the google support pages but it would still download and install "Instant Apps" the service throughout the day, not the actual temporary apps themselves. So it's been dealt with lol
oh man, when i saw this i thought i had a virus on my phone.
especially when i couldn't find anything named "instant apps" in the app drawer
I am hoping that this will work for me as well. The first time I saw the instant apps pop up I just connected to a free wifi in Mexico and freaked out. This seriously bothers me. I uninstalled it and it came back update after update. I also will not be using any instant apps, so this is something I want to break.
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I am hoping that this will work for me as well. The first time I saw the instant apps pop up I just connected to a free wifi in Mexico and freaked out. This seriously bothers me. I uninstalled it and it came back update after update. I also will not be using any instant apps, so this is something I want to break.
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some how it was pushed back on to my phone. this is not a permanent solution...
so I'm trying to disable this through other means now and I found something interesting? I need someone with more experience to chime in as far as what these* lines* do*.. and where I found it...
so in /data/data/com.google.android.apps.instantapps.supervisor/shared_prefs/phenotypeConfigurations.xml there are these three lines:
<boolean name="Supervisor__enable_instant_apps" value="true" />
<boolean name="Supervisor__disable_url_resolution" value="false" />
<boolean name="TestFeature__enable_test" value="true" />
I flipped the value of these three entries to see if this will disable it. I find it odd that for the first line it was set for "true" when the settings say it's off. I will update again if I see this come back. My coworker had suggested that this may be built in to the Google app itself? Let's see...
so I had to unroot my phone because I forgot to log into snapchat, then re-root after, and Instant Apps was back yet again. The changes I made to the XML file persisted but the app was back.
I think I found a way to remove it entirely. I used Root Explorer, idk what other applications would work for this. So I navigated back to /data/app/com.google.android.instantapps.supervisor-1 and I clicked the base.apk and I had an option to uninstall, I did this then rebooted my phone to see if reboots are why it fixes itself except the entry for Instant Apps has been removed from settings. This appears to permanently remove this feature.
every time I think I fix this it keeps coming back lol, I finally called Google Support and this is the first they are hearing of it. The application re-installed itself at 430-some Mountain Time on it's own, other times it re-installs upon reboot. I'm going to find a way to cripple it if google cant
I recommend calling support to let them know that Instant Apps is enabled even though the switch says it is disabled.
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every time I think I fix this it keeps coming back lol, I finally called Google Support and this is the first they are hearing of it. The application re-installed itself at 430-some Mountain Time on it's own, other times it re-installs upon reboot. I'm going to find a way to cripple it if google cant
I recommend calling support to let them know that Instant Apps is enabled even though the switch says it is disabled.
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I have the same annoyances, "Installig Instant apps" notification appears randomly during the last month, and reading in the logcat they are updates/patches to the new feature, managed by finsky app (Play Store). The most scaring thing is that one time it appeared also during mobile data connection, which is not acceptable (and 800kb background data from Play Store). Google is being too aggressive with it. Why not simply integrate it and update it along with Play Services like the other 1000 google APIs ? !on WIFI!
Thank you for your tests, unfortunately the update process seems to be triggered by Google Play services itself or by Google play store.
I searched for related alarms/wakelocks in Amplify and could only found one wakelock coming from com.google.android.apps.instantapps.supervisor itself: .ExperimentUpdateService. I decided to keep it as this probably isn't the trigger.
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I have the same annoyances, "Installig Instant apps" notification appears randomly during the last month, and reading in the logcat they are updates/patches to the new feature, managed by finsky app (Play Store). The most scaring thing is that one time it appeared also during mobile data connection, which is not acceptable (and 800kb background data from Play Store). Google is being too aggressive with it. Why not simply integrate it and update it along with Play Services like the other 1000 google APIs ? !on WIFI!
Thank you for your tests, unfortunately the update process seems to be triggered by Google Play services itself or by Google play store.
I searched for related alarms/wakelocks in Amplify and could only found one wakelock coming from com.google.android.apps.instantapps.supervisor itself: .ExperimentUpdateService. I decided to keep it as this probably isn't the trigger.
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yeah that's now my only worrisome complaint is that it ignores the play store settings and will download over any network connection. You can try submitting feedback through settings and suggest they fix this part so that it updates as you said. Thanks for the additional info, I'll try disabling that and report back if it makes any difference. I doubt that's the source of the problem though so I uninstall the apk so something else must be initiating it.
Thank you guys for this thread! I have the regular Pixel and have been seeing this happen... "Instant Apps" was disabled but somehow still updating either itself or something else, and I wondered if there was an additional switch somewhere to disable it. Looks like the answer is no. ?
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So I noticed every time the play store found an update, magically Instant Apps was back. I began to notice that this may be a service built into Play Store and not the Google app itself. So I had an idea, I went into Settings for Android and turned off background data for Play services. Obviously this will affect quite a bit, but honestly I am at that point from fighting this feature that I'd gladly give that up. So far after 2 days I have not seen the application re-install itself. It has been more permanent that the other solutions I've had so far.
There's an article from XDA in Analysis and Opinion talking about Instant Apps and Play Store 7.8.15, apparently this issue is affecting people all the way down to the Samsung S5... although people are hesistant to believe this issue exists for whatever reason.
You can cripple it by restricting its access to internet via firewall. Unfortunately this method also drives up battery consumption as the firewall does jujitsu with "Google Play services for Instant Apps" - I am actively fantasizing about taking my baby sledge to this thing and going back to a "dumb"-phone that doesn't have all this drama constantly! I'm using an S5 right now. This is definitely a google thing. They have a similar self-install-without-asking "feature" on windows via their chrome browser. Just look up "SwReporter" in that program's directory. It self-populates with an executable as you use chrome normally and there is no option in the program for it to not do that. You can safely make a shortcut to that directory and empty it out regularly to restrict its functionality which is presumably for keeping an eye on you. I am also trying an alternate method of changing security to prevent write access to that directory. I have no idea how to do that on an unrooted android. Any ideas? And does anybody know how to cripple "instant apps" malware/spyware backdoor "feature" on an unrooted device without eating battery like crazy?
Today I noticed that Instant Apps was installing without my permission. When I clicked on that notification, it brought me to the Google Play Store. (In Google Play Store, I have auto updates disabled.) I have an unrooted Galaxy Note 4 and I can't even find the settings for Instant Apps under the Google settings. Why aren't the settings there? I found the app in the Apps settings called "Google Play services for Instant Apps" (thank you G1A). I cleared it's the cache and data and then uninstalled it. So I'm assuming it will not come back but you never know.
EDIT: Well the "Google Play services for Instant Apps" reinstalled itself AGAIN WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. Getting sick of tired of Google's POMPOUS business ethics.
If it reinstalled itself.... then his would require root privileges in order to disable.
yeah this issue is annoying, it seems to initiate the download upon every reboot and each time it checks the play store for updates for any of your apps.
I found a way to disable it but it required freezing the app through Titanium Backup. I have NO CLUE why I couldn't see Instant Apps before in this list but it is listed as "Google Play Services for Instant Apps." It does not re-install or try to even download, does not show in Settings under Google, but if you look at the app itself in settings you will see it does still run. I am not sure to what extent but yeeeaahhh at least it doesnt seem like it can run anything
No problem As an update, changing security permissions (specifically for writing) for chrome's target folder Definitely (in windows 10) serves as an effective measure to blockade its ability to regenerate itself. This same method also works for microsoft edge located in the C-Windows-SystemApps folder. I presume that the programming methods would be analogous with android on google's end. Anybody know how to restrict write access to a folder on android? So long as it checks for a folder existing and it does exist (multi-decade programming approach) then it attempts to write to that folder. However, because it's already running in stealth mode (aka background) then it will never show an error message when it fails to execute, and it won't report back either, as that functionality depends on the contents of the targeted folder it is denied access to. It should be effectively crippled without excessive CPU consumption if you can just restrict its ability to write to the default folder that it installs itself in. Any ideas how to execute this kind of blockade?
UPDATE: As a way to cripple not Instant Apps specifically, but an entire host of functionality on the android platform, something called "Power Saving Mode" seems to knock out a key background runtime required for this pest to run. Unfortunately it doesn't let you pick and choose what it shuts off, so other useful apps may lose their functionality too. Post if anybody finds a more app-specific method!
Does this crap have its own separate package? If so, you could uninstall it and make a dummy APK having the same package name. This could prevent "updates" due to signing key conflicts, but might also break things...